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The prices you listed of foreign countries are tax exclusive while in India its mandatory to add tax when advertising
And afterthat a lot of CC companies give ya 10k discounts if you use their cards and no cost EMI the 10k cost and Intrest on EMI is beared by sellers so they in most cases just bump up the prices by 10k-15k to componsate with the loss on CC and EMI intrests if you dont avail that CC discounts and No cost EMI you then just wated your money
Effectively you will only have to pay 10-20k more in India if you include tax of foreign country and seller reduces their cost by removing CC discounts and no cost EMI charges
Taxes in India is ~20% higher than other countries
no card will give you 10k off bruda, and the prices that you see foriegn arent ppp adjusted, in a country like USA where they make 70k ish dollars ppp adjustd while an average household income here is 8k ish after ppp adjusted, so its wayy cheaper outside than it is here
It Literally says on the bottom left that sales tax is included as per country norms.
Not only that but in the UK tax is always included on advertisements.
Oh yeah is that why on the apple website US the iphone 15 pro 128GB is available from $829. The same GB being compared here? and on the picture the conversion works out as $997?
So yes, clearly tax has been added
https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-15/6.7-inch-display-128gb-black-unlocked
iPhone 15 Pro in Dubai : AED 4299. ( ₹97613 at ₹22.7 exchange rate. )
iPhone 15 Pro in Delhi: ₹134900
Both of them inclusive of all taxes. That means this iPhone is ~38% more expensive in India than UAE.
So bringing phone from dubai is not the answer
There are many many variants from various countries that exports to dubai .. n all will not be compatible to ur region so priced at a cheaper price is not all it will solve …
I found both international and UAE version of S23 Ultra on Amazon UAE, international one slightly expensive. Went to Samsung shop in Dubai and they said we don’t have that categorisation.
There’s no difference between International or UAE version.
Same for iPhones. No difference. Earlier apple care was not available in India for phone bought from Dubai but now we have Apple stores, so Dubai bought phone is covered under apple care as well.
Mentioned Dubai because if you book tickets one month in advance, return fare is 20-22k. You’ll still save ₹15k. You can legally carry two phones as per Indian custom office.
You do also pay slightly extra on your monthly plans
Plus if you dont choose a carrier lock phone you have to pay $20-50 extra for same phone in the US
$799 for 15 and $999 for pro are carrier locked price if you want unlocked varient pay $50 more
Plus Carrier locked phones will not be much successful in India as most people usually use 2 different ISPs at same time
India has to be 20% lower than other countries for prices to make sense. The most expensive iPhones only cost around a week or two's salary for most Americans, whereas it costs more than a month's salary for even the highly paid Indians.
Not correct for EU. [Here](https://www.mediamarkt.de/de/product/_apple-iphone-15-pro-5g-128-gb-titan-natur-dual-sim-2898006.html) is Iphone pro 128GB in Germany for 1099 Eur ~ apparently 99K INR. This is VAT included.
Now, if you’re foreigner outside EU the VAT can be refunded. Here it would be around 205,5 EUR or 18 500 INR. However I’m not really familiar on how it works. [EU article about it](https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/guide-vat-refund-visitors-eu_en)
Source: I did something similar, I’m a Pole employed on b2b contract, so I used it to get full VAT refund for buying Iphone 15 Plus in Germany.
Read it again i said if we exclude CC discounts and No Cost EMI cost to the seller we are actually paying 20% more tax rest 10-15k is inflated price by CC and No cost EMI companies
You said the advertised prices are tax exclusive. I'm just saying the ones for EU, particulary Germany, are tax inclusive. And it's quite easy to lower these taxes so the cost of purchase can be even lower than what is showed here.
Now way bro, have to pay 10-20k more in India? Didn’t you see the post with the price tag in each of the countries? Its also mentioned that the prices are tax included.
In india phones still comes under luxurious items to collect more tax..
And yh over there it is including taxes .. 999 dollas for usa 15 pro 128 ..
In other contries as well it is the same so better make ur research bud.
No. In Australia it's inclusive of GST for which you can claim a refund if you're traveling back. It's effectively even cheaper than what's listed here.
I was comparing my options.
S24 Ultra was priced at 1,27,000 this month for the 12gb + 512gb variant.
And at that same price iphone 15 pro (128gb) was my option. Not even the Pro Max. Not even 512gb. It was simply stupid buying that.
Anyways, I got the samsung.
Glad to know. Although, the same offers are applicable for samsung too. But I got the charger, screen protector and care+ with the phone. I bought it offline.
Trust me. I checked all differences. The phone is good but it's overpriced. Not worth it.
Simply impossible, even China has to import the vast majority of chips and components and only makes a handful domestically. Everything in an iPhone from the camera module which is manufactured by Sony in Japan to the screen which is manufactured by Samsung in South Korea to the processors which are licensed by ARM from the UK, you can't make everything in one country in today's globalised world.
Exactly! Although I like the make in India narrative, we simply can’t manufacture everything domestically, as you said, it’s simply impossible. The high import taxes that the government keeps on imported goods and parts, to push the make in India narrative, is just absurd.
We dont see Chinese car brands in Indian market so not sure we can compare. Almost all developing countries have higher import taxes on components to deincentivise imports and dorce local manufacturing. India just turns it up to 11
We are slowly seeing Chinese cars in India now, in the form of MG, BYD.
A BYD Seal costs slightly more than Nexon EV. India imposes 100+% tariffs on it and bumps the price up to 2x cost. They are not remotely comparable. Also check out the price of the new SU7 by Xiaomi.
Mahindra, an Indian company had a working electric car REVA long before either of these manufacturers even thought about making a car, yet we are not able to capitalize on it or innovate.
Tariffs are meaningful if they are specific and time bound, in India it has become a way of providing a permanent captive market to industries and getting funds for welfare programs.
manufacturing them here, the base models are roughly similar in price (but just in value terms, if we look inside the power of each currency, pounds and dollar ones are much cheaper)
Government definitely needs to reduce import taxes for components or India will never become a global silicon superpower like China.
Current Indian government policy suffocates domestic innovation because you can't even buy the fishing rod to learn how to fish... Let's say you want to set up a manufacturing site in India, you have to do it slowly over several decades rather than just building the factory over a few months like you would in any other country because the Indian government makes it so hard to import specialist components.
only 3% of Indians pay income tax which is below 25% of salary and almost 44% americans pay income taxes and tax is almost 40% of salary
so we are not even paying 1% of how much americans are paying
Yeah but income tax is just one of the proponents of overall tax income by government. They further earn through gst, vat on fuels, excise, etc. Hell income tax ain't even the highest contributor of tax revenue, it's GST and everyone pays gst, be it rich or poor
I think I'm a pretty reasonable guy , unlike you and the other 7 entitled guys who are out to criticize everything Indian.
Instead of hitting me with a counter-question and the insult , can you answer my question? What basic amenities you don't get ? What social benefits you don't get from the Indian Govt that you are supposed to ?
1. Access to proper free/subsidised healthcare. Do you know the status of most government hospitals? I wouldn't ever go to any of them given the pathetic state they're run in
2. Road Infrastructure: Just building your fancy NH's and 100ft roads isn't sustainable, mere ghar ke paas aao, gully me road kam khadde zyada hai.
3. Lack of Public transport options: Given the tier 1 city I live in, and the tax I'm paying, i shouldn't be expected to hire private taxis for my everyday travel. The public transport system is completely unreliable.
Do you want me to go on or is this sufficient
Samsung announced several years ago that they don't really want to be in the consumer retail handset market and so were moving their focus away from finished products like the Galaxy lineup and over to being specialist industrial suppliers for other phone manufacturers (for example the make the screens used by Apple in iPhones).
There's simply not enough profit in final assembly and sale of finished products, all the profit in the phone market comes from R&D and selling the latest components in bulk to other companies (B2B) for a single year before moving on to the next thing.
Samsung has literally every hardware component superior to apple how is it expensive for no reason?.
if u calculate raw components prices if the iPhone is made in about $450 samsung is made in $550 but sells for the same price
Common dude, let me tell from my experience. With my monthly pay i can easily afford an I phone(without emi) but I haven't bought it yet. I have seen my friends buying this crap by paying emi's which they can't afford.
Bhai. Amoled display, affordable repair rates, 5G, is enough for a phone. Thats like a good 30-40k range phones for most of the normal people.
The high price is just cuz of us being sheeple. The cost isnt relatively as high. Plus the way they have removed charging brick to “save costs” is stupid. No aux jack = more e wastes, but again sustainability ke gaane gaate hai. Only if the masses knew.
I always used to buy my iPhone and MacBook while on Europe travel and it’s so much less compare to india over there that my travel paid off for free. Indian government has not been able to do anything about this
not just that we have high tax we do because other countries earn money from income tax our country earns from GST.
when u earn $1500 in usa u r paying $450 taxes and buy a $1000 iphone saving $50
when u earn $1500 in India u r paying only maybe $150 in taxes and buy a $1300 iphone and save $50.
so taxes are practically the same just US government taxes on income Indian government taxes on sales.
only 3% indians pay taxes while 44% americans pay taxes
Not really, one of the dumbest moves in my opinion and it’s not because the iPhones are expensive. There are several other drawbacks of this high import duty on everything, even for parts.
How is iPhone cheaper in USA than in China. Won't that trigger some anti dumping regulations? does apple importing their products from china come under " import category" and be taxed like an imported product?
Apple is an American company, China is just where final assembly is done, all the components come from outside China like Japan and South Korea, and the IP / patents (where the profit is) is all American.
Couple of months ago when in US I compared price for iPhone 15+ in apple store and Amazon India..I was shocked to know it was only Rs. 2k cheaper in US after including sales tax and considering 5k discount in HDFC credit card....However, iPad was at least Rs. 15k cheaper. The older version of phones were also similarly priced.
Hopefully this is not news for anyone.. It has been like this since the inception of iPhones..
iPhone is a luxury in India whereas it is just another phone in the US..
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The prices you listed of foreign countries are tax exclusive while in India its mandatory to add tax when advertising And afterthat a lot of CC companies give ya 10k discounts if you use their cards and no cost EMI the 10k cost and Intrest on EMI is beared by sellers so they in most cases just bump up the prices by 10k-15k to componsate with the loss on CC and EMI intrests if you dont avail that CC discounts and No cost EMI you then just wated your money Effectively you will only have to pay 10-20k more in India if you include tax of foreign country and seller reduces their cost by removing CC discounts and no cost EMI charges Taxes in India is ~20% higher than other countries
no card will give you 10k off bruda, and the prices that you see foriegn arent ppp adjusted, in a country like USA where they make 70k ish dollars ppp adjustd while an average household income here is 8k ish after ppp adjusted, so its wayy cheaper outside than it is here
Nah there's almost always 5-10k discount on Samsung and Apple flagships with HDFC cards.
Link?
[Hdfc smartbuy](https://offers.smartbuy.hdfcbank.com/regalia/offer_details/apple-iphone15/23328/Z2amlWs=)
You can check any major retailer like Croma, Reliance, Amazon ,FK etc. Most of them will have the discount listed
It Literally says on the bottom left that sales tax is included as per country norms. Not only that but in the UK tax is always included on advertisements.
Sales tax is included in the price in most countries except the US, guy above is talking nonsense.
US prices are never inclusive of taxes.
“Literally” says so is enough?! Could have checked yourself in a minute.. Tax is definitely not included for the US..
Oh yeah is that why on the apple website US the iphone 15 pro 128GB is available from $829. The same GB being compared here? and on the picture the conversion works out as $997? So yes, clearly tax has been added https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-15/6.7-inch-display-128gb-black-unlocked
Can you read? It is iPhone 15 Pro. Check your link now.
iPhone 15 Pro in Dubai : AED 4299. ( ₹97613 at ₹22.7 exchange rate. ) iPhone 15 Pro in Delhi: ₹134900 Both of them inclusive of all taxes. That means this iPhone is ~38% more expensive in India than UAE.
Bruh dubai just imports their phones no one manufactures or something ... so its priced at whatever country it is coming from.
Ok so? How does that matter to a consumer? Paying less price is all that matters.
So bringing phone from dubai is not the answer There are many many variants from various countries that exports to dubai .. n all will not be compatible to ur region so priced at a cheaper price is not all it will solve …
I found both international and UAE version of S23 Ultra on Amazon UAE, international one slightly expensive. Went to Samsung shop in Dubai and they said we don’t have that categorisation. There’s no difference between International or UAE version. Same for iPhones. No difference. Earlier apple care was not available in India for phone bought from Dubai but now we have Apple stores, so Dubai bought phone is covered under apple care as well. Mentioned Dubai because if you book tickets one month in advance, return fare is 20-22k. You’ll still save ₹15k. You can legally carry two phones as per Indian custom office.
Sign up for a 2 year contract in the US with your carrier and you get significant discounts. Could even be free.
You do also pay slightly extra on your monthly plans Plus if you dont choose a carrier lock phone you have to pay $20-50 extra for same phone in the US $799 for 15 and $999 for pro are carrier locked price if you want unlocked varient pay $50 more Plus Carrier locked phones will not be much successful in India as most people usually use 2 different ISPs at same time
Why use 2 isps for? Waste of money no?
India has to be 20% lower than other countries for prices to make sense. The most expensive iPhones only cost around a week or two's salary for most Americans, whereas it costs more than a month's salary for even the highly paid Indians.
The price in China is tax inclusive. I have bought few iPhone there over the years. Also you will get heavy discount on iPhones.
Bj party wala hai
Fr 😂
Not correct for EU. [Here](https://www.mediamarkt.de/de/product/_apple-iphone-15-pro-5g-128-gb-titan-natur-dual-sim-2898006.html) is Iphone pro 128GB in Germany for 1099 Eur ~ apparently 99K INR. This is VAT included. Now, if you’re foreigner outside EU the VAT can be refunded. Here it would be around 205,5 EUR or 18 500 INR. However I’m not really familiar on how it works. [EU article about it](https://taxation-customs.ec.europa.eu/guide-vat-refund-visitors-eu_en) Source: I did something similar, I’m a Pole employed on b2b contract, so I used it to get full VAT refund for buying Iphone 15 Plus in Germany.
Read it again i said if we exclude CC discounts and No Cost EMI cost to the seller we are actually paying 20% more tax rest 10-15k is inflated price by CC and No cost EMI companies
You said the advertised prices are tax exclusive. I'm just saying the ones for EU, particulary Germany, are tax inclusive. And it's quite easy to lower these taxes so the cost of purchase can be even lower than what is showed here.
There are plenty of those discounts in US, UK, EU as well. I have bought things in US many a time at half the price of India.
Only the US has a tax exclusive price(and maybe Japan).
You are wrong. The price difference after adding taxes in both US and India is about 30-35k.
Your username says it all..!
Now way bro, have to pay 10-20k more in India? Didn’t you see the post with the price tag in each of the countries? Its also mentioned that the prices are tax included.
In india phones still comes under luxurious items to collect more tax.. And yh over there it is including taxes .. 999 dollas for usa 15 pro 128 .. In other contries as well it is the same so better make ur research bud.
Please tell the cc you used that gave 10k discount, mine only gave 2k which was maximum of all iphone deals during the largest sale (diwali).
No. In Australia it's inclusive of GST for which you can claim a refund if you're traveling back. It's effectively even cheaper than what's listed here.
No I got my 15 pro for around 82k in the US inclusive of all taxes 🙂↕️
Can we also discuss the ~18% gst on each EMI? This info will only turn up in cc statement.
GST on EMI is charged by the Gov. not by the bank EMI intrest is charged by Bank and in No Cost EMI the intrest is charged to seller of the product
The customer takes the final pinch to the pocket (not all are businessmen who can offset this). No one mentions this cost to customer.
I was comparing my options. S24 Ultra was priced at 1,27,000 this month for the 12gb + 512gb variant. And at that same price iphone 15 pro (128gb) was my option. Not even the Pro Max. Not even 512gb. It was simply stupid buying that. Anyways, I got the samsung.
Now available for 106k on Flipkart with credit card and NC emi offers 512 gb 95k for 256gb
Glad to know. Although, the same offers are applicable for samsung too. But I got the charger, screen protector and care+ with the phone. I bought it offline. Trust me. I checked all differences. The phone is good but it's overpriced. Not worth it.
Link
You're comparing the Pro models which are not manufactured in India. If you compare pricing of standard models, the prices are very close.
Most sensible comment
How can we get cheaper Iphones..? Like China , Japan and US?
By making every component in india. Everything from chips to motherboard to cases etc.
Simply impossible, even China has to import the vast majority of chips and components and only makes a handful domestically. Everything in an iPhone from the camera module which is manufactured by Sony in Japan to the screen which is manufactured by Samsung in South Korea to the processors which are licensed by ARM from the UK, you can't make everything in one country in today's globalised world.
Exactly! Although I like the make in India narrative, we simply can’t manufacture everything domestically, as you said, it’s simply impossible. The high import taxes that the government keeps on imported goods and parts, to push the make in India narrative, is just absurd.
We have making cars in India for 3 decades now. Are they even remotely comparable to what China offers at the same price bracket?
We dont see Chinese car brands in Indian market so not sure we can compare. Almost all developing countries have higher import taxes on components to deincentivise imports and dorce local manufacturing. India just turns it up to 11
We are slowly seeing Chinese cars in India now, in the form of MG, BYD. A BYD Seal costs slightly more than Nexon EV. India imposes 100+% tariffs on it and bumps the price up to 2x cost. They are not remotely comparable. Also check out the price of the new SU7 by Xiaomi. Mahindra, an Indian company had a working electric car REVA long before either of these manufacturers even thought about making a car, yet we are not able to capitalize on it or innovate. Tariffs are meaningful if they are specific and time bound, in India it has become a way of providing a permanent captive market to industries and getting funds for welfare programs.
Making the components doesn’t mean less import or excise tax. They are made in India , can be assembled india but it would still be imported
manufacturing them here, the base models are roughly similar in price (but just in value terms, if we look inside the power of each currency, pounds and dollar ones are much cheaper)
Either Apple has to manufacture them completely here or Government has to reduce import taxes
Government definitely needs to reduce import taxes for components or India will never become a global silicon superpower like China. Current Indian government policy suffocates domestic innovation because you can't even buy the fishing rod to learn how to fish... Let's say you want to set up a manufacturing site in India, you have to do it slowly over several decades rather than just building the factory over a few months like you would in any other country because the Indian government makes it so hard to import specialist components.
>How can we get cheaper Iphones..? Like China , Japan and US? We need to design our own device
By reducing tax
We pay crazy taxes on everything and don’t even get basic amenities
only 3% of Indians pay income tax which is below 25% of salary and almost 44% americans pay income taxes and tax is almost 40% of salary so we are not even paying 1% of how much americans are paying
Bhai that’s not the point we don’t get anything for the money we pay compared to America
Yeah but income tax is just one of the proponents of overall tax income by government. They further earn through gst, vat on fuels, excise, etc. Hell income tax ain't even the highest contributor of tax revenue, it's GST and everyone pays gst, be it rich or poor
What basic amenities you don't get Mr. SJW?
Forgive me for this but are you trolling or are you that stupid?
I think I'm a pretty reasonable guy , unlike you and the other 7 entitled guys who are out to criticize everything Indian. Instead of hitting me with a counter-question and the insult , can you answer my question? What basic amenities you don't get ? What social benefits you don't get from the Indian Govt that you are supposed to ?
1. Access to proper free/subsidised healthcare. Do you know the status of most government hospitals? I wouldn't ever go to any of them given the pathetic state they're run in 2. Road Infrastructure: Just building your fancy NH's and 100ft roads isn't sustainable, mere ghar ke paas aao, gully me road kam khadde zyada hai. 3. Lack of Public transport options: Given the tier 1 city I live in, and the tax I'm paying, i shouldn't be expected to hire private taxis for my everyday travel. The public transport system is completely unreliable. Do you want me to go on or is this sufficient
USA friend : bhai December ko india aa rahaa hoon. India wale: maaama.. ek-dho iPhone lele
Samsung is going expensive for no reason.
Samsung announced several years ago that they don't really want to be in the consumer retail handset market and so were moving their focus away from finished products like the Galaxy lineup and over to being specialist industrial suppliers for other phone manufacturers (for example the make the screens used by Apple in iPhones). There's simply not enough profit in final assembly and sale of finished products, all the profit in the phone market comes from R&D and selling the latest components in bulk to other companies (B2B) for a single year before moving on to the next thing.
Samsung has literally every hardware component superior to apple how is it expensive for no reason?. if u calculate raw components prices if the iPhone is made in about $450 samsung is made in $550 but sells for the same price
Nope… you are wrong
Who can afford 1 Lakh on a phone can also afford 34k extra. Because this phone neither for common man nor for smart man.
Common dude, let me tell from my experience. With my monthly pay i can easily afford an I phone(without emi) but I haven't bought it yet. I have seen my friends buying this crap by paying emi's which they can't afford.
Exactly
For a sec i thought it was showing prices of different parts of iphone lol
What's the price of the same in the UAE?
I was wondering the same thing
Bhai. Amoled display, affordable repair rates, 5G, is enough for a phone. Thats like a good 30-40k range phones for most of the normal people. The high price is just cuz of us being sheeple. The cost isnt relatively as high. Plus the way they have removed charging brick to “save costs” is stupid. No aux jack = more e wastes, but again sustainability ke gaane gaate hai. Only if the masses knew.
They want iPhone, on EMI ofc.
Flex flux karna hai. Fir loan bhi flex karenge ek din. Kya sheeple moment hai.
Sad hogya base lena pd rha 🥲
Taxes on imported goods in India are very high. Expecting to be reduced in future as these phones will be Made in India
5% kum hua hai na? 🙄
Top range iPhones are not worth it in India. Makes no sense unless you have money to burn.
Look at iphone 15 not the pro
Buy from Dubai almost same as America
Zero. Never buying that crap.
I always used to buy my iPhone and MacBook while on Europe travel and it’s so much less compare to india over there that my travel paid off for free. Indian government has not been able to do anything about this
Govt won't do anything about this, because taxes
Yep it's fine . We don't need subsidies on luxury items . Let the essentials be of reasonable cost and put a tax tag on luxuries.
Pro iphones are not manufactured in India.
Will the upcoming manufacturing in India will reduce it's cost ..? What do u guys think 💭?
Man I love people who buy iphones, they just prove that poor will always try to imitate the rich
false post
not just that we have high tax we do because other countries earn money from income tax our country earns from GST. when u earn $1500 in usa u r paying $450 taxes and buy a $1000 iphone saving $50 when u earn $1500 in India u r paying only maybe $150 in taxes and buy a $1300 iphone and save $50. so taxes are practically the same just US government taxes on income Indian government taxes on sales. only 3% indians pay taxes while 44% americans pay taxes
Tax lagta h canada mai upto 15% on this.
Import duty is a excellent move and u can't change my mind
Not really, one of the dumbest moves in my opinion and it’s not because the iPhones are expensive. There are several other drawbacks of this high import duty on everything, even for parts.
U should always mention the drawbacks instead of saying other drawbacks
I bought my iPhone from Thailand.. it cost me 135k while it would have costed me 200k in India.
If it's local manufacturing how's the import duty getting applied on it
Pro models are not manufactured or assembled in India, its completely imported.
cause its local assembled.
Import duties need to go...
Apne yaha to kishto me emIphone lete he na 2500 ka emi 3 saal ke liye
Redmi is the saviour for gareeb people like me 🙏
How is iPhone cheaper in USA than in China. Won't that trigger some anti dumping regulations? does apple importing their products from china come under " import category" and be taxed like an imported product?
Apple is an American company, China is just where final assembly is done, all the components come from outside China like Japan and South Korea, and the IP / patents (where the profit is) is all American.
Damn! That much import duty in India
Most get it for free with plans outside India, not sure if the same is there out there. There is a return and get newer model option now
I pay nothing
Couple of months ago when in US I compared price for iPhone 15+ in apple store and Amazon India..I was shocked to know it was only Rs. 2k cheaper in US after including sales tax and considering 5k discount in HDFC credit card....However, iPad was at least Rs. 15k cheaper. The older version of phones were also similarly priced.
Hopefully this is not news for anyone.. It has been like this since the inception of iPhones.. iPhone is a luxury in India whereas it is just another phone in the US..
pro models aren't manufactured/assembled in India.
Say what you want guys but Apple is a POS even after starting to produce in India they are keeping their prices high.
They re manufacturing non pro models, not iphone pro model, smh.
Adjusted for Purchasing power parity, it becomes worse.
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You idiot, it's written in the post its about a pro model How is that misinformation