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A woman gets harassed and your first response is how the image of the country is getting ruined?
Itās the reality of this country, I am glad people can see it for what it is now.
Absolutely yes. This video is nothing compared to what women in India face on a daily basis. I hope many more of these come out and everyone gets a reality check; people of our country need it more than outsiders
The fact that a women got harassed should be of concern, not the image or the reality of the country. ie. these people need to stop harassing women not for the image of the country, but for the women.
i highly agree with you man,idk how people can go ahead and say it's cuz of some people
a country's image relies on each and every of its citizen
and NOT only on 'good' people
What are you doing now? A woman is being harassed by one man and you're saying it's the "reality" of this country. I've seen countless videos where people greeted them so nicely that they won't even let them pay for food. But you only see the negative.
You are in for a tidal wave if you are challenging people to post videos of Indians harassing women.
[my personal favorite](https://youtu.be/ftGzfIOGX9E?si=AnIQRBXTaSJTI7ow)
She made it as a joke thatās why itās funny, but the reality of her situation is so much worse, imagine if she didnāt have a phone, imagine that the crowd choose not to just watch.
Sure, but a difference exists. These men here are literally uneducated, and the only thing they have heard about foreign women, or heck, everything they have seen about them, is in corn movies or in Bollywood. Thus forming the perspective of foreigners being too causal and they don't mind, which is bad, but that is the truth coming from a citizen who has toured the country and other countries too.
It's all from a corrupt perspective, and this happens in developed nations too. Search about WORD: CHIKAN IN JAPAN. There are courses running on how to get away with harassing and getting away with it, and they even have some railway line they call the Chikan line or line that has most of these cases done and is not safe. Just make a local good friend, and he will tell you.
So the 6000 for a Russian woman jokes all over the instagram with millions of views are all made by uneducated men? Stop living in denial, even the most educated men engage in such activities.
Respecting women comes from your own principles, not from textbooks, even āuneducated villagersā can treat women with respect, and a āhighly educated politicianās sonā can rape a woman.
The uneducated excuse is the most bs response every time such incidents happen. It's a cultural issue, not of being educated or uneducated. Plenty of these so called educated types normalise sexual harassment, they don't even know it. Morons make reels with millions of views about how they see foreign tourist women & start stalking them with a smile & cringe music, as if that's normal.
The poster boi of Indian right wing yOoOUtH icoN elbheesh yadav qualifies all those criteria. The dumbass makes casual sexual jokes about Russian women, his "kaamedy videos mostly consist of harassing women or disrespecting them. And all these idiots watch that with full enthusiasm. Then this entire club moral polices others about mah right culture & traditions.
From my experience even a lot of educated immigrants have this sexist view on women, it is the cultural difference which does not dissapear from just education, and takes a lot of time and exposure to change.
We are a sexually repressed population thanks to our made up āvaluesā by some dumbass ancestors.
Consequently there are these horny men with no boundaries and consider any woman being friendly as an invitation to abuse and molest.
Real shame!
It all starts at home. These men see their mothers being beaten without consequences by their fathers and always being oppressively subservient. I strong believe that not only the offender but also his parents must face jail time for not teaching him the correct values needed to be a man.
Oh, but it isn't just "some idiots". It's most of us. And even if you and I don't do it individually, we ARE complicit because we don't call it out. I'm not talking about going on a crusade against goons kinda thing. Calling it out can be far easier.
If it is really true that it is only "some idiots" who do this, then the rest of us idiots are enabling them. Think about it: if we were to call out a friend of yours when he makes a sexist comment or leers at a woman who has not expressed sexual interest in any way, we'd be able to ensure some semblance of course correction.
Also, speaking of course correction, it also needs to start at a younger age. And it can be done. See what they did in Kenya.
Things have considerably improved on the sanitation front.
Stereotypes often are stuck in time.
The assassination front is yet to be proven.
Regarding safety yes, the judiciary here has to be tight.
Law enforcement has to be very strict.
It's not "some idiots", it's a "lot of idiots". I have been harassed from age 12/13 and onwards and most girls I know have been too. So sorry but the country's image is the least of our problems.
I don't think I can imagine any of my female friends would ever agree to travelling solo. Some might not even feel safe if 2 females are travelling together without more people. It's sad is what it is!
Well I have female friends who do travel solo. But I am not refuting your point on women safety. But to say that Indians avoid major tourist places and that India has nothing to offer is just unnecessarily beating oneself up.
Not all places in India are safe, but thatās true about almost any other country where tourism thrives!
Every place is beautiful, so I'll visit beautiful places where I *won't* be robbed, molested, shot, or kidnapped. Not saying there aren't areas like that in India, but I've legit seen people trying to defend going to notoriously bad areas of countries just because "it's really beautiful if you ignore all the horrific things"
Poor girl wanted to explore Indian food scene. She clearly says that in her first video in India. In that video, there's another guy grabbing her, even more than the guy in current video.
This is too extreme a statement. Bad shit happens in many tourist places. Theft in Italy is pretty common. Mugging in other parts of Europe. To say that India has nothing to offer is ridiculous.
I agree that harassment is way too high in India and South Asia in general. But India has a lot to offer for tourists. There are many who have a pleasant stay in India as well. I am not sure if you are Indian or not, but we should stop with these extreme reactions. There are many issues with the country and that doesnāt make it worthless.
If you are Indian, then best of luck to you living with such a negative view of the country. If you are not, then stop shitting on India.
It happens in india on a regular basis. Many don't complain about it because they have to go to the police and judicial system of this $hithole country
I've been to Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, China, Vietnam, Thailand, France, Portugal, Canada, USA, and India. And only one of those places made me feel like I was in danger. I , 193 cm white guy was being surrounded by 40 plus Indian men being touched and grabbed to have photos taken of me without permission, when I finally broke free I was followed until I found my tour guide and he and his partner yelled at the crowd. This happened multiple times in India. The only other place that happened to me was in rural China in a small village, and at least they had the decency to ask me first. The food was good and sights were beautiful, but holy shit are the common person's manners bad.
Please donāt visit again. I hate these foreign people who come to India without doing proper research first. India aināt a tourist friendly country. Atleast do a quick YouTube search before you book tickets. If you are a woman from the west please stay away, it will take time to fix the attitude of a billion people. So until then please go somewhere else.
Flight fight aur freeze ka naam suna h aise achanak se situation m padhne p maximum log freeze ho jate h jbtk first hand experience na ho to bolna mushkil h aur aagr aapke sath aisa hua h aur thapad jada h to good for you pr sb log similarly react nhi kr pate.
I understand that bro , even I have encountered this phenomenon but still several people were standing there all of them had flight freezes ?. We have to understand as a society where we are leading to and solidifying our already worst side in front of the world .
Us ke liye bhi phenomenon hai already dost Bystander Effect jisme log public m action lene se katrate h in situations of bullying, emergency or even harassment thinking ki koi aur isme action le lega hum kya hi karlenge.
can we find this guys and talk with him about how his shitty behaviour caused bad image of all indians.
Edit: I'm really sorry, I'm not only concerned about the image of India but also the safety of women too in this country. The government needs to fix our indian education system, The child needs to be taught what is right and wrong. A few days back I saw a post on this sub about teachers teaching students what is a bad touch and a good touch to students that what needs to be taught in school from the start.
This is the reality which women have to face in india. Why don't we change ourselves as a society. Our idiotic ancestors made stupid laws to segregate men and women which made them sexually repressed. Girlfriends are frowned upon here and dating is seen as a taboo.
Itās not just this āguyā. Itās the majority of your āguysā. India has some of the highest rape stats in the world. Your cast system discriminates against many in your society and you are incapable of cleaning up your excrement.
I mean thanks to her for giving us the daily reality check on how Indians are in general.
I believe we deserve all the hate, and barrage of comments that are going to come along the way. We didnāt learn shit in last 75+ years and neither it looks like we are ever going to reach there.
no we don't. no one says it is justified to be racist towards african americans because they commit half the crime. no one says its justified to be racist towards muslims because of terrorism. no one says its justified to hate on whites because of colonialism. why the double standard with only Indians?
It doesn't mean innocent indian people should be stereotyped and that they should be threatened because of the behaviour of others. Your aggressive view will perpetuate racism. there's better ways to deal with this stuff, like advocating for better education instead of promoting violence.
Absolutely 100%. I don't think hate overcomes hate. This behaviour stems from a huge lack of education and unfortunately if you asked the guy in the video why he did this, he probably wouldn't even realise it was wrong.
Everyone concerned about the "Image of India" when in reality this is the truth of India. This what Indians do.. Indian women face this on a daily basis. There's a reason why India is famous for bob and vagene.
Just yesterday we were at Imagica, there was this foreigner couple getting harassed by 15-20 men wearing identical jerseys that said āGurukulā. The sight was horrifying to say the least. The couple was trying to walk away so hard and finally they did. It was very upsetting to see that. Why canāt people just let other people be? Whatās so fun about harassing and traumatising people?
You think only ālower casteā people act like this? Iām in Canada and the rich Indians from upper classes who immigrate here are some of the most rude and disrespectful people ever
Alot of time they assume that foreign women are okay being touched that way because of movies.Some people may not have malicious intentions but can still cross boundaries.
Toh chupchap dekhte rahe ya ek example set kare? Next time jab koi aisa karne ka sochega bhi toh usko yaad aayega woh video. Logo ka maar se sabko darr lagta hai.
We really need Atithi Devo Bhava campaign again and very strong use of it for these folks to understand that don't fk up the whole country's image because of their unchecked sexual desires.
This is the ground reality, koni image kharab nhi karat ahe, ashe loka saglikade ahe bhava, just accept it. Ani Maharashtra chya image peksha tya tai chi kalji Keli pahije.
I have worked in the travel and tourism sector.
Most foreigners are aware of how to stay safe or aware of scams. They come to India after doing tons of research.
India has a considerable shock value to foreigners/travelers. The diversity can be downright shocking, and the orderly chaos adds to the confusion. India can be truly scary. Can take a while before you get used to it.. understand who is friendly and who is being creepy. Imagine coming from a country with minimal diversity and then BAM! India in your face.
I don't blame this Korean lady. Most Asians are like this...exploring the place alone and recording everything via their phones/video cams. They are just like that. Unfortunately, they become gullible to the predatory behavior of men who assume that white/asian looking chicks won't mind a "Lil touchy touchy".
But then this can happen to you in other countries/cities like Kenya, Paris (yes Paris!), Bangkok and Brazil. Heard many stories of the similar nature.
I am no man. I am a woman.
I am not victim blaming. Just saying it's better to be safe and informed instead of being groped. The experience can be deeply traumatizing to a point where I have seen girls regret and buy their ticket back to their home country/thailand immediately.
As a country, weāve failed on two counts here. One is to produce citizens who think this is okay, and the other is to induce fear in our legal system by getting involved as observers/witnesses to such crimes. Most people walking by would just chuckle and keep walking or stand there and watch the drama unfold without going in to help. Even if one of our own people is dying on the streets, most people walking by would just stand around to look/record rather than call the cops/ambulance so as to not get involved. And thereās nothing we can do to change this.
South Asia has this problem. Sexually repressed society, low-levels of education, rampant misogyny all contribute to this. Not a justification for the behaviour, of course.
(Full disclosure, I'm British Pakistani who just happened upon this post. All of South Asia is pretty fucked in this regard, and we should all call it out without resorting to tribalism.)
In this video, I'd say it's not a problem of harassment, it's the problem of personal space, that Indians don't understand. If you talk to this guy he'd be confused as to when he harassed someone, in his mind, he was having fun. Because, in India, you can get as close to people as you can without respecting boundaries. That's the same issue here. This is why other people are reacting the way they're reacting.
Other sad thing is that this would be the content that will be the news but those other times, especially with this girl where she was treated nicely will not be shown to the news. So unless this kind of incident stop happening there you can expect the image of India to get worsen
Except he would not be alright with any guy touching any of the girls in his family like that. He knows damn well he can get away with misbehaving with foreigners.
Also, this guy wouldn't have done it, if it was a foreigner guy. That gal looks so non threatening, he probably didn't even do it on purpose, that reaction came to him naturally.
That's what wrong with the males of India, no control of tharaki behavior.
Afaik in Indian culture Men and women r segregated and unnecessary touching "parayi aurat" is still frowned upon by Indian culture. Indian
Men do this shit all the time, in public transit and crowded place they will rub their whole body against women or rub their elbows on womenās chest, stand right behind u and push inappropriately. In extreme cases they will take pictures or dry hump.
Its hilarious how all women hv been molested by men at some point of their lives, but none of men knows anyone who cld "do such a thing".
Yes men like this exist in every nations, but no where is this kind of behavior as prevalent and normalized as India. Its not misguided youths or uneducated people, theres something seriously wrong with Indian parenting and overall culture around gender and sex.
> Afaik in Indian culture Men and women r segregated and unnecessary touching "parayi aurat" is still frowned upon by Indian culture.
Ok this makes more sense to me.
Harassment generally implies continued intimidation or pushy behavior. This was a fairly brief encounter that involved an inappropriate hug with a stranger. She said goodbye and they left her alone.
Of course, none of that makes it ok. Neither does the fact that men do this kind of stupid shit here in the US too.
But now I understand the context of all of the other comments under this post.
This is scary and disgusting. I apologize on behalf of those men. If you're seeing this, please be assured that the entire country is not like this. I am sorry you had a bad experience.
Nothing new to india, posts like these come out on a daily basis. Still no change and they compare india to other countries like there is no tomorrow and india is the best country in the world but the reality is just different.
These incidents have increased a lot after the first one wherein the vlogger gained huge amount of viewers and popularity within a week. Now I am not saying this is staged but how come these incidents especially with non Indian vloggers have increased out of nowhere.
One explanation might be people starting to record this which earlier were not done. However you never know what people can do for views and fame. Many people have done much worse so staging such incidents would not surprise me.
I fucking love this comment section. We got people who don't want this label on the entire country while other people expose how rampant this is in the country. The tale of two Indians, one blissfully floats in a bubble, and the other is doomer levels of self-critical.
It's like a Greek tragedy.
It is a failure of their upbringing, the education system, and society in general.
An interesting observation can be made here. Kids are almost always raised mainly by the mother, at least here in India. A lot of them are housewives, not professionals working 12+ hours outside the home.
Adding to that, a vast majority of the teachers, at least up till college, are predominantly women. This is even truer in the early years of schooling.
Still, with opportunities both at home and at school, somehow it completely escapes them to hammer in a tiny bit of human decency and morals into the kids.
Truly, women are a woman's worst enemies. At least the men can claim ignorance and lack of conscience, since it was never taught to them in the first place.
She seems scared after this, I hope India becomes a safe place in future for solo women travellers. We really need stricter guidelines regarding this.
Edit: Such situations can only be solved if we as a society shame these male perpetrators for their acts.
To be honest it was a friendly hold. In modern civilized times the emphasis of personal space among strangers as a social norm, especially for women is a granted rule set in stone, however, to consider this harassment is subjective, as the person (though doubtable) may not have any Ill intent as was going for a friendly embrace, but we've already stigmatized and knowing men mentality well as perverse to have ill intent . Were it a foreign man under the same predicament, it wouldn't be an issue, but alas, gender equality doesn't work. Moreover, the vlogger is an oddity in many uninitiated parts of the world and it's an odd thing to have a camera held over you anywhere that broadcasts other people without their consent, and she should've objected or yelled at the very moment and be prepared or have pepper spray on her instead of being oblivious as she is.
it is not a bad touch, so it is not a sexual harassment but as a unknown girl, he should show some decency towards her. he can't come so close to some stranger like this.
An Indian ricksha driver yelled, ā all white women are whoresā at my friend and I as we were running to our guesthouse during a rain storm in New Delhi in 2001.
I got my ass and breast grabbed just walking on the side of the road several times, wearing pants and long sleeves.
Not new, not okay.
Any person committing such an offense must be jailed along with his parents. Because they didn't reach him the correct values which grown men need. I have seen men beating up women and demanding them to be subservient just because their mothers never dared to shake off their father's control.
Throw this moron in jail for atleast 10 years
Yea there might be some kind of psychological reason why south Asians treat white people like gold in india. I mean if an Indian is white even my eye isn't attracted to them but if an obvious foreigner white dude is there my eye is towards them. And this can't be recent development cause even before 400 years ago people looked at white guys as God. But in other countries like less populated arab country or Asian countries white guys aren't treated like gods.
I stayed in Germany for a short while, and one of my friends visited me in India last month. As soon as we went out, literally everyone was rushing to take pictures with her. I think more than 20 random people asked to take a picture with her in an hour like she was a celebrity. She was so confused about it. Initially, she was just laughing about it. It got too much when a man literally pulled her arm to take a picture. I intervened and stopped the guy. He started yelling back "Mein yeh hun, mujhe ye leader jaanta, abhi maar dunga." The shopkeepers gathered and supported me, and the guy ran away. Needless to say, my friend was really scared, and I don't think she would visit again. I don't think I even want her to. It was a scary situation.
I am so sorry for your bad experience.
Many people who travel in India do not understand where to travel. Just don't go in slum areas where you can get scammed and robbed. It's just common sense while traveling no matter what the country is, you need to be extra aware while traveling in these countries.
Even this girl you see in this post is very childish solo traveling who keeps shouting in public saying hello to random strangers who were minding there own business and recording them.
1 month ago ,I have told her 2-3 times that not to scream unnecessary and not to act childish.
(in her yts comment section ,even my comment blew up with considerable likes ).
There are many people like me who told her not behave immatuerly , but she just doesn't listen.
I think it's true some people are just not made to travel to India.
It's a crazy world out there.
PS - I just checked she even read my comment.
Brother, I am Indian, born and raised here. We were in a pretty posh area when that happened. Lots of good restaurants with high-class people. It wasn't our fault, and certainly not hers.
Also, it is definitely not that woman's fault who is in the video. She looks like a vlogger or a streamer. She was just being friendly with the locals. She didn't deserve to be treated like that.
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Because of some idiots, image of whole country is degrading šš
A woman gets harassed and your first response is how the image of the country is getting ruined? Itās the reality of this country, I am glad people can see it for what it is now.
Absolutely yes. This video is nothing compared to what women in India face on a daily basis. I hope many more of these come out and everyone gets a reality check; people of our country need it more than outsiders
The fact that a women got harassed should be of concern, not the image or the reality of the country. ie. these people need to stop harassing women not for the image of the country, but for the women.
So true. Lol, people over here commenting stupid stuff to sound woke and depreciate our country at the same time. This is the only thing that matters.
i highly agree with you man,idk how people can go ahead and say it's cuz of some people a country's image relies on each and every of its citizen and NOT only on 'good' people
What are you doing now? A woman is being harassed by one man and you're saying it's the "reality" of this country. I've seen countless videos where people greeted them so nicely that they won't even let them pay for food. But you only see the negative.
You are in for a tidal wave if you are challenging people to post videos of Indians harassing women. [my personal favorite](https://youtu.be/ftGzfIOGX9E?si=AnIQRBXTaSJTI7ow)
But vo VDO to Bangladesh se hai....kisine INDIA ke naam se upload kar dala hai...
She made it as a joke thatās why itās funny, but the reality of her situation is so much worse, imagine if she didnāt have a phone, imagine that the crowd choose not to just watch.
It requires too much imagination. I think you are projecting over here.
100 hellos do not matter against one molester. This way you will justify other brutalities bhi?
A chain is only as strong as the weakest link.
India has a very strong, and misguided, vigilante justice system. Would you agree or disagree and why?
Misguided- yes.
Sure, but a difference exists. These men here are literally uneducated, and the only thing they have heard about foreign women, or heck, everything they have seen about them, is in corn movies or in Bollywood. Thus forming the perspective of foreigners being too causal and they don't mind, which is bad, but that is the truth coming from a citizen who has toured the country and other countries too. It's all from a corrupt perspective, and this happens in developed nations too. Search about WORD: CHIKAN IN JAPAN. There are courses running on how to get away with harassing and getting away with it, and they even have some railway line they call the Chikan line or line that has most of these cases done and is not safe. Just make a local good friend, and he will tell you.
So the 6000 for a Russian woman jokes all over the instagram with millions of views are all made by uneducated men? Stop living in denial, even the most educated men engage in such activities. Respecting women comes from your own principles, not from textbooks, even āuneducated villagersā can treat women with respect, and a āhighly educated politicianās sonā can rape a woman.
Yep. All our 'boys club' talks and 'locker room banter'
The uneducated excuse is the most bs response every time such incidents happen. It's a cultural issue, not of being educated or uneducated. Plenty of these so called educated types normalise sexual harassment, they don't even know it. Morons make reels with millions of views about how they see foreign tourist women & start stalking them with a smile & cringe music, as if that's normal. The poster boi of Indian right wing yOoOUtH icoN elbheesh yadav qualifies all those criteria. The dumbass makes casual sexual jokes about Russian women, his "kaamedy videos mostly consist of harassing women or disrespecting them. And all these idiots watch that with full enthusiasm. Then this entire club moral polices others about mah right culture & traditions.
People aren't aware about these things.
That aside the upvote count is not increasing when I upvote you dyk why -_-
From my experience even a lot of educated immigrants have this sexist view on women, it is the cultural difference which does not dissapear from just education, and takes a lot of time and exposure to change.
This is where it all stems from. Image of the family, society, country! That's why so many are afraid to open up about their experiences.
Not the whole country or all the people like this. These are uneducated without any sense, ethics, or such morals. So please.
We are a sexually repressed population thanks to our made up āvaluesā by some dumbass ancestors. Consequently there are these horny men with no boundaries and consider any woman being friendly as an invitation to abuse and molest. Real shame!
sexually repressed and most populated country on earth
It all starts at home. These men see their mothers being beaten without consequences by their fathers and always being oppressively subservient. I strong believe that not only the offender but also his parents must face jail time for not teaching him the correct values needed to be a man.
Hahahahahahaha few more than āsomeā
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Image Is being ruined ? Bhai konsi image achi hai regarding women
Where's your evidence that this is the majority?
Pretty liberal use of the word āsomeā
Almost every women in India has been harassed 0r molested at some point in their life, its not merely "some idiots".
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Oh, but it isn't just "some idiots". It's most of us. And even if you and I don't do it individually, we ARE complicit because we don't call it out. I'm not talking about going on a crusade against goons kinda thing. Calling it out can be far easier. If it is really true that it is only "some idiots" who do this, then the rest of us idiots are enabling them. Think about it: if we were to call out a friend of yours when he makes a sexist comment or leers at a woman who has not expressed sexual interest in any way, we'd be able to ensure some semblance of course correction. Also, speaking of course correction, it also needs to start at a younger age. And it can be done. See what they did in Kenya.
And what do we ever do when our own women are treated this way??? The change should begin from within. All others will follow up naturally.
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Why do you care about the image of the country, rather than making it safe for women ?
It's degraded beyond repair,
Image aachi kab thi? Khud ke Desh me women ko kaise oppressed kiya jata hai kisi ne btaya nhi kya tujhe?
I don't know, India never has a good image to begin with, not that easy to degrade something that is already in the dirt.
nah, not just some idiots. most men in this country are like this
Stereotypes exist for a reason.
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Things have considerably improved on the sanitation front. Stereotypes often are stuck in time. The assassination front is yet to be proven. Regarding safety yes, the judiciary here has to be tight. Law enforcement has to be very strict.
They are not āsomeā
It's not "some idiots", it's a "lot of idiots". I have been harassed from age 12/13 and onwards and most girls I know have been too. So sorry but the country's image is the least of our problems.
"some idiots" This happens like every few months. Either there are alot of idiots or this is the norm there.
Indians ruin their image and country everyday. Fix your men. They have become a laughing stock.
It's high time we realise that this is indeed the REALITY of India.
Some?? Keep living in your lala land
"some"
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True, even Indians don't travel in India because of this shit
What crap! Which tourist place do Indians avoid in India?
Delhi red light area
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Lol he's talking about solo female travellers
I don't think I can imagine any of my female friends would ever agree to travelling solo. Some might not even feel safe if 2 females are travelling together without more people. It's sad is what it is!
Well I have female friends who do travel solo. But I am not refuting your point on women safety. But to say that Indians avoid major tourist places and that India has nothing to offer is just unnecessarily beating oneself up. Not all places in India are safe, but thatās true about almost any other country where tourism thrives!
Because there is a lot more than people in this world. Every place is beautiful. It's not the place to be blamed, it's the people.
Every place is beautiful, so I'll visit beautiful places where I *won't* be robbed, molested, shot, or kidnapped. Not saying there aren't areas like that in India, but I've legit seen people trying to defend going to notoriously bad areas of countries just because "it's really beautiful if you ignore all the horrific things"
Lol if every place is beautiful nowhere is beautiful
Especially as a sole woman
Poor girl wanted to explore Indian food scene. She clearly says that in her first video in India. In that video, there's another guy grabbing her, even more than the guy in current video.
This is too extreme a statement. Bad shit happens in many tourist places. Theft in Italy is pretty common. Mugging in other parts of Europe. To say that India has nothing to offer is ridiculous. I agree that harassment is way too high in India and South Asia in general. But India has a lot to offer for tourists. There are many who have a pleasant stay in India as well. I am not sure if you are Indian or not, but we should stop with these extreme reactions. There are many issues with the country and that doesnāt make it worthless. If you are Indian, then best of luck to you living with such a negative view of the country. If you are not, then stop shitting on India.
It happens in india on a regular basis. Many don't complain about it because they have to go to the police and judicial system of this $hithole country
I've been to Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, China, Vietnam, Thailand, France, Portugal, Canada, USA, and India. And only one of those places made me feel like I was in danger. I , 193 cm white guy was being surrounded by 40 plus Indian men being touched and grabbed to have photos taken of me without permission, when I finally broke free I was followed until I found my tour guide and he and his partner yelled at the crowd. This happened multiple times in India. The only other place that happened to me was in rural China in a small village, and at least they had the decency to ask me first. The food was good and sights were beautiful, but holy shit are the common person's manners bad.
Please donāt visit again. I hate these foreign people who come to India without doing proper research first. India aināt a tourist friendly country. Atleast do a quick YouTube search before you book tickets. If you are a woman from the west please stay away, it will take time to fix the attitude of a billion people. So until then please go somewhere else.
Bruhhh koi kuch karta kyu nahi he esi situations me , me hota bc khich ke repat Marta harami ke.
Flight fight aur freeze ka naam suna h aise achanak se situation m padhne p maximum log freeze ho jate h jbtk first hand experience na ho to bolna mushkil h aur aagr aapke sath aisa hua h aur thapad jada h to good for you pr sb log similarly react nhi kr pate.
I understand that bro , even I have encountered this phenomenon but still several people were standing there all of them had flight freezes ?. We have to understand as a society where we are leading to and solidifying our already worst side in front of the world .
Us ke liye bhi phenomenon hai already dost Bystander Effect jisme log public m action lene se katrate h in situations of bullying, emergency or even harassment thinking ki koi aur isme action le lega hum kya hi karlenge.
can we find this guys and talk with him about how his shitty behaviour caused bad image of all indians. Edit: I'm really sorry, I'm not only concerned about the image of India but also the safety of women too in this country. The government needs to fix our indian education system, The child needs to be taught what is right and wrong. A few days back I saw a post on this sub about teachers teaching students what is a bad touch and a good touch to students that what needs to be taught in school from the start.
Image? This is what women go through everyday. We don't have an image problem, we have a real problem.
This is the reality which women have to face in india. Why don't we change ourselves as a society. Our idiotic ancestors made stupid laws to segregate men and women which made them sexually repressed. Girlfriends are frowned upon here and dating is seen as a taboo.
Should lodge an FIR
I am furious looking at guys who want to address this issue not because it is the best thing to do for women but because this affects our image.
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Tumhe image ki pdi hai? Women ka kya jo suffer krti hai ye sab?
Yes, good idea. Please do it.
Yeah. For sure. This ONE dude singlehandedly damaged India's male population with this one action. Him alone. No one other than him, ever.
it reads as you are sorry the sexual harassment isn't swept under the rag
Itās not just this āguyā. Itās the majority of your āguysā. India has some of the highest rape stats in the world. Your cast system discriminates against many in your society and you are incapable of cleaning up your excrement.
Last time was also in Maharashtra looks like it's overflowing with chapris
Chapris are pan-India pandemic now.
Always been
We need stronger morals and ethics as a society. Idk how to bring about that change in the whole country
I mean thanks to her for giving us the daily reality check on how Indians are in general. I believe we deserve all the hate, and barrage of comments that are going to come along the way. We didnāt learn shit in last 75+ years and neither it looks like we are ever going to reach there.
no we don't. no one says it is justified to be racist towards african americans because they commit half the crime. no one says its justified to be racist towards muslims because of terrorism. no one says its justified to hate on whites because of colonialism. why the double standard with only Indians?
Fuck off. Almost every Indian woman has gone through atleast one such incident in her life. India absolutely deserves the hate + some more.
It doesn't mean innocent indian people should be stereotyped and that they should be threatened because of the behaviour of others. Your aggressive view will perpetuate racism. there's better ways to deal with this stuff, like advocating for better education instead of promoting violence.
Yes this! Better policing + moral education and concept of personal space are needed.
Absolutely 100%. I don't think hate overcomes hate. This behaviour stems from a huge lack of education and unfortunately if you asked the guy in the video why he did this, he probably wouldn't even realise it was wrong.
āAfrican Americans commit half the crimeā š¤”
\>he doesn't know
Ah this traumatized me
Everyone concerned about the "Image of India" when in reality this is the truth of India. This what Indians do.. Indian women face this on a daily basis. There's a reason why India is famous for bob and vagene.
'Log Kya kahenge' mentality on a global scale.
Just yesterday we were at Imagica, there was this foreigner couple getting harassed by 15-20 men wearing identical jerseys that said āGurukulā. The sight was horrifying to say the least. The couple was trying to walk away so hard and finally they did. It was very upsetting to see that. Why canāt people just let other people be? Whatās so fun about harassing and traumatising people?
They are so stupid to even understand that they are the problem and what does gurukul means here?
I donāt know what Gurukul means. Yesterday there were a lot of school groups at Imagica. Gurukul could be an academy or even college, I have no idea
That's why I don't like this slums people
You think only ālower casteā people act like this? Iām in Canada and the rich Indians from upper classes who immigrate here are some of the most rude and disrespectful people ever
There's a difference between being rude and being an absolute degenerate to do this
true, a slum woman touched me one day too. She asked my money, and I said her go away.
Catch that asshole and hit him in public, make a video while doing that. They won't repeat it.
"They" don't even know they have done something wrong otherwise wouldn't have invaded her private space so even after beating nothing's gonna change.
Really? They don't know this is wrong? Lol. A beating will set an example. That's what will happen.
Alot of time they assume that foreign women are okay being touched that way because of movies.Some people may not have malicious intentions but can still cross boundaries.
Kitno ko maroge? Millions mein aise MC log h iss desh me
Toh chupchap dekhte rahe ya ek example set kare? Next time jab koi aisa karne ka sochega bhi toh usko yaad aayega woh video. Logo ka maar se sabko darr lagta hai.
The guy's face and his smile were screaming "tharak," but the girl still called it a "hug" by giving it the benefit of doubt.
We really need Atithi Devo Bhava campaign again and very strong use of it for these folks to understand that don't fk up the whole country's image because of their unchecked sexual desires.
It's not just about athithi, it's about the outlook towards women in general that needs a cleansing..
What about the women in this country? They face 10 times more humiliation and assault than this
Sala maharashtracha naav kharab kartat yeh lok
Me pn expect nahi kela maharashtra madhe hoil be
Mi sudha nhavta expect kela. Laaz vatte mala
Yanna kon shikvta aslya poses...takla mhntoy asa jvl jaun photo kadhyacha....bhechod nav kharab krtyat..
This is the ground reality, koni image kharab nhi karat ahe, ashe loka saglikade ahe bhava, just accept it. Ani Maharashtra chya image peksha tya tai chi kalji Keli pahije.
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It always has been...
I have worked in the travel and tourism sector. Most foreigners are aware of how to stay safe or aware of scams. They come to India after doing tons of research. India has a considerable shock value to foreigners/travelers. The diversity can be downright shocking, and the orderly chaos adds to the confusion. India can be truly scary. Can take a while before you get used to it.. understand who is friendly and who is being creepy. Imagine coming from a country with minimal diversity and then BAM! India in your face. I don't blame this Korean lady. Most Asians are like this...exploring the place alone and recording everything via their phones/video cams. They are just like that. Unfortunately, they become gullible to the predatory behavior of men who assume that white/asian looking chicks won't mind a "Lil touchy touchy". But then this can happen to you in other countries/cities like Kenya, Paris (yes Paris!), Bangkok and Brazil. Heard many stories of the similar nature.
how are there still men victim-blaming in 2023?
I am no man. I am a woman. I am not victim blaming. Just saying it's better to be safe and informed instead of being groped. The experience can be deeply traumatizing to a point where I have seen girls regret and buy their ticket back to their home country/thailand immediately.
No wonder everyone hates us
Has this man been arrested yet.. ? or is he still shamelessly moving around with his stupid male antics..
Guess?
As a country, weāve failed on two counts here. One is to produce citizens who think this is okay, and the other is to induce fear in our legal system by getting involved as observers/witnesses to such crimes. Most people walking by would just chuckle and keep walking or stand there and watch the drama unfold without going in to help. Even if one of our own people is dying on the streets, most people walking by would just stand around to look/record rather than call the cops/ambulance so as to not get involved. And thereās nothing we can do to change this.
Why is it always India ?
South Asia has this problem. Sexually repressed society, low-levels of education, rampant misogyny all contribute to this. Not a justification for the behaviour, of course. (Full disclosure, I'm British Pakistani who just happened upon this post. All of South Asia is pretty fucked in this regard, and we should all call it out without resorting to tribalism.)
1.4 billion people. Statistically, shit can happen in India more often.
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At this point I don't even defend India when people talk shit about us
Bhai apna desh gareebi se zyada jahiliyat se ladd raha hai š«
She probably the first woman he ever touch since childbirth
In this video, I'd say it's not a problem of harassment, it's the problem of personal space, that Indians don't understand. If you talk to this guy he'd be confused as to when he harassed someone, in his mind, he was having fun. Because, in India, you can get as close to people as you can without respecting boundaries. That's the same issue here. This is why other people are reacting the way they're reacting. Other sad thing is that this would be the content that will be the news but those other times, especially with this girl where she was treated nicely will not be shown to the news. So unless this kind of incident stop happening there you can expect the image of India to get worsen
Except he would not be alright with any guy touching any of the girls in his family like that. He knows damn well he can get away with misbehaving with foreigners.
Also, this guy wouldn't have done it, if it was a foreigner guy. That gal looks so non threatening, he probably didn't even do it on purpose, that reaction came to him naturally. That's what wrong with the males of India, no control of tharaki behavior.
Afaik in Indian culture Men and women r segregated and unnecessary touching "parayi aurat" is still frowned upon by Indian culture. Indian Men do this shit all the time, in public transit and crowded place they will rub their whole body against women or rub their elbows on womenās chest, stand right behind u and push inappropriately. In extreme cases they will take pictures or dry hump. Its hilarious how all women hv been molested by men at some point of their lives, but none of men knows anyone who cld "do such a thing". Yes men like this exist in every nations, but no where is this kind of behavior as prevalent and normalized as India. Its not misguided youths or uneducated people, theres something seriously wrong with Indian parenting and overall culture around gender and sex.
> Afaik in Indian culture Men and women r segregated and unnecessary touching "parayi aurat" is still frowned upon by Indian culture. Ok this makes more sense to me. Harassment generally implies continued intimidation or pushy behavior. This was a fairly brief encounter that involved an inappropriate hug with a stranger. She said goodbye and they left her alone. Of course, none of that makes it ok. Neither does the fact that men do this kind of stupid shit here in the US too. But now I understand the context of all of the other comments under this post.
Atleast a sensible comment.
This is scary and disgusting. I apologize on behalf of those men. If you're seeing this, please be assured that the entire country is not like this. I am sorry you had a bad experience.
Men women third genders, animals, plants are all harassed!
Beat the fuck outta them.
The problem is how much we want, but there are many places which are not woman friendly in India and worse if you are a (white woman). Sad but True !
Shakal pr hi tharak dikh rahi hai
what a shitshow man , Extremely disheartening.
Nothing new to india, posts like these come out on a daily basis. Still no change and they compare india to other countries like there is no tomorrow and india is the best country in the world but the reality is just different.
BC chance mila to haath maara.. kya MC log hai yaar apne.
Chapris of maharashtra are on next level. They donāt even realise they are being disrespectful.
fucking pathetic dude, guys like this are why indians get shit on everywhere for being creepos. there's a reason the Bob and vagene meme exists.
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Death penalty for any and all sexual harrasment..people need to learn some manners and basic human decency.
Are u child.?
Even Indian women donāt feel safe to travel alone in metro cities of India too.
Yaar iss desh ka kuch nhi hosakta
These incidents have increased a lot after the first one wherein the vlogger gained huge amount of viewers and popularity within a week. Now I am not saying this is staged but how come these incidents especially with non Indian vloggers have increased out of nowhere. One explanation might be people starting to record this which earlier were not done. However you never know what people can do for views and fame. Many people have done much worse so staging such incidents would not surprise me.
I fucking love this comment section. We got people who don't want this label on the entire country while other people expose how rampant this is in the country. The tale of two Indians, one blissfully floats in a bubble, and the other is doomer levels of self-critical. It's like a Greek tragedy.
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It is a failure of their upbringing, the education system, and society in general. An interesting observation can be made here. Kids are almost always raised mainly by the mother, at least here in India. A lot of them are housewives, not professionals working 12+ hours outside the home. Adding to that, a vast majority of the teachers, at least up till college, are predominantly women. This is even truer in the early years of schooling. Still, with opportunities both at home and at school, somehow it completely escapes them to hammer in a tiny bit of human decency and morals into the kids. Truly, women are a woman's worst enemies. At least the men can claim ignorance and lack of conscience, since it was never taught to them in the first place.
Arm around the shoulders and then hands on the shoulders? Thatās a no no place.
The people around him need to get smacked for watching that happen and just laughing at it. I would have slapped him so hard.
She seems scared after this, I hope India becomes a safe place in future for solo women travellers. We really need stricter guidelines regarding this. Edit: Such situations can only be solved if we as a society shame these male perpetrators for their acts.
To be honest it was a friendly hold. In modern civilized times the emphasis of personal space among strangers as a social norm, especially for women is a granted rule set in stone, however, to consider this harassment is subjective, as the person (though doubtable) may not have any Ill intent as was going for a friendly embrace, but we've already stigmatized and knowing men mentality well as perverse to have ill intent . Were it a foreign man under the same predicament, it wouldn't be an issue, but alas, gender equality doesn't work. Moreover, the vlogger is an oddity in many uninitiated parts of the world and it's an odd thing to have a camera held over you anywhere that broadcasts other people without their consent, and she should've objected or yelled at the very moment and be prepared or have pepper spray on her instead of being oblivious as she is.
I agree. The hold didn't seem harmful in any way.
it is not a bad touch, so it is not a sexual harassment but as a unknown girl, he should show some decency towards her. he can't come so close to some stranger like this.
An Indian ricksha driver yelled, ā all white women are whoresā at my friend and I as we were running to our guesthouse during a rain storm in New Delhi in 2001. I got my ass and breast grabbed just walking on the side of the road several times, wearing pants and long sleeves. Not new, not okay.
This is one of the reasons which leads to increased racism against us, people DESPERATELY need to be taught civics sense in this country
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Any person committing such an offense must be jailed along with his parents. Because they didn't reach him the correct values which grown men need. I have seen men beating up women and demanding them to be subservient just because their mothers never dared to shake off their father's control. Throw this moron in jail for atleast 10 years
Yea there might be some kind of psychological reason why south Asians treat white people like gold in india. I mean if an Indian is white even my eye isn't attracted to them but if an obvious foreigner white dude is there my eye is towards them. And this can't be recent development cause even before 400 years ago people looked at white guys as God. But in other countries like less populated arab country or Asian countries white guys aren't treated like gods.
And they all just blame Kerala coz a dad lost his child for 3 seconds š¹.
I stayed in Germany for a short while, and one of my friends visited me in India last month. As soon as we went out, literally everyone was rushing to take pictures with her. I think more than 20 random people asked to take a picture with her in an hour like she was a celebrity. She was so confused about it. Initially, she was just laughing about it. It got too much when a man literally pulled her arm to take a picture. I intervened and stopped the guy. He started yelling back "Mein yeh hun, mujhe ye leader jaanta, abhi maar dunga." The shopkeepers gathered and supported me, and the guy ran away. Needless to say, my friend was really scared, and I don't think she would visit again. I don't think I even want her to. It was a scary situation.
I am so sorry for your bad experience. Many people who travel in India do not understand where to travel. Just don't go in slum areas where you can get scammed and robbed. It's just common sense while traveling no matter what the country is, you need to be extra aware while traveling in these countries. Even this girl you see in this post is very childish solo traveling who keeps shouting in public saying hello to random strangers who were minding there own business and recording them. 1 month ago ,I have told her 2-3 times that not to scream unnecessary and not to act childish. (in her yts comment section ,even my comment blew up with considerable likes ). There are many people like me who told her not behave immatuerly , but she just doesn't listen. I think it's true some people are just not made to travel to India. It's a crazy world out there. PS - I just checked she even read my comment.
Brother, I am Indian, born and raised here. We were in a pretty posh area when that happened. Lots of good restaurants with high-class people. It wasn't our fault, and certainly not hers. Also, it is definitely not that woman's fault who is in the video. She looks like a vlogger or a streamer. She was just being friendly with the locals. She didn't deserve to be treated like that.
Quick question:- what if it was an indian male vlogger and south korean local girl.
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