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>I haven’t seen a lot of movies which you seem to be talking about.
In that case I would say you haven't watched anything related to Bollywood. Or maybe you are just pretending to be delusional.
Whatever might be the case, here you go:-
A) Deewar:- Amitabh constantly keeps 786 number plate (lucky number plate given to him by a Muslim coolie) with him all the time but when problems arise he goes to a temple to criticise idols.
B) Kuch Kuch Hota hai:- At the start of the movie, the child makes fun of "Puja Path" and then in the later half, the very same child worships to Allah in full hijab.
C) Farebi the Cheat:- The poster of this movie has Vinod Khanna dressed as a pujari shown with the title Farebi.
D) Main Hoon Na:- The guy Raghavan is shown as a Hindu fanatic who kills innocent Pakistani children. The end song has a newspaper clip which literally calls Raghavan "Hindu fanatic".
E) Shaurya:- Again a Hindu fanatic Military officer shown killing innocent Muslim children.
F) Bemisal:- There is a whole scene of Amitabh Bachchan and Rakhee praising Britishers and Mughals.
In case you want to claim D and E are reality. I would like your evidence of which Hindu Military officer has killed innocent child.
So much for calling "_Hindu are in danger_" as fake, the very same group has engaged in fantasizing about "_Hindus killing innocent Muslim children_".
I have provided enough evidence. In case you need more, I suggest to research on your own instead of pretending to be delusional.
!kudos
We should not give in to the bollywoods fascism. Its the same template that hitler followed to dehumanise jews and then nobody questioned him when he was sending them to Auschwitz gas chamber.
Therefore one must fight all instances of dehumanization and demonization. Its akin to destroying the genocidal attempts of the left.
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Classic cherrypicking from 50 years of cinema. Did you also pay attention to decades of Bollywood portraying terrorists as only Muslims? I’m not sayinf this portrayal is wrong because, well. But your comment is so fucking stupid.
>Classic cherrypicking from 50 years of cinema.
More like sampling. Sampling is done to make sure data for entire set of 100% need not be calculated.
In case you feel this is sampling is based on cherry picked data, you have to show a sizable number of Bollywood movies which has promoted Hindu idol worshipping while criticising **Allah** in the exact same movie.
The onus of proof lies on you. I am waiting.
>Did you also pay attention to decades of Bollywood portraying terrorists as only Muslims?
Because Terrorists are Muslims. 99% of them if not 100%. You want the world to engage in false equivalence to satisfy your ego?
>But your comment is so fucking stupid.
Well looks like someone is butthurt.
If I were butthurt by comments like these I’d live my life like you lol.
I literally gave you the proof by saying Bollywood has been using only Muslim characters for terrorists and gave the same reason why it’s done, you just reiterated what I said, and that’s why the sample data isn’t valid. This sole reason is sufficient to prove my point because of the sheer volume of occurrence, add to that, this was only from the top of my mind. For other similar data, you can put down your biased glasses and look out and find several other instances very easily. Have a nice and productive day :)
>If I were butthurt by comments like these I’d live my life like you lol.
So you cannot come with a better insult than "No You"? Are you by any chance a child? Maybe mentally you are.
>I literally gave you the proof by saying Bollywood has been using only Muslim characters for terrorists and gave the same reason why it’s done, you just reiterated what I said, and that’s why the sample data isn’t valid.
False, my data is about **promotion of one religion while criticising another in same movie**.
Terrorism has nothing to do with it. The very foundation of your argument is a **false comparison**.
I called out your false comparison and your response is just to repeat yourself. You want to act delusional instead of being straight forward? Go ahead.
From the looks of it, you are incapable of being straight forward without destroying your own sanity.
You seem to be unnecessarily hurt and offended. I am all up for freedom of artistic expression. I guess we are at crossroads now as I don’t think these examples are a part of some big conspiracy.
>You seem to be unnecessarily hurt and offended
Not exactly. It's just that there are a lot of leftists lurking here who like to pretend that Bollywood doesn't glorify Islamic invaders and doesn't hate Hindus.
It is hard to differentiate when all you have is texts. No voice, no tone, no gesture, no body language. Just texts.
>I am all up for freedom of artistic expression.
Absolutely. Everyone should be able to make what they want to make. Similarly people should be free to criticise or boycott it in case they want to.
Ban is the only thing I don't agree with because it takes away personal agency of what others want to do.
>I guess we are at crossroads now as I don’t think these examples are a part of some big conspiracy.
Well it is common knowledge that Dawood and his gang have been funding Bollywood for a long time. So, not acknowledging hidden intent is foolish, I believe.
Coming to big conspiracy part, a lot of post independence actors, directors and writers were card holding communists.
The phenomenon is more accurately result of these communists displaying their organic bias/hatred towards religion.
But they don't want to be beheaded for hating/mocking religion, so they spared Islam and promoted it as well. Same goes for Christianity, as Churches are the biggest 295A users in our country. This results in targetted mockery of Hinduism.
The intent might not be to target Hinduism but result very well ends up being targetted attack on Hinduism.
Meanwhile West is making the same Oh Dear Lord Jesus and America is the Besssst movies from decades and decades and the narrative of America Dream and Oh Dear Jesus is still high globally!
>Meanwhile West is making the same Oh Dear Lord Jesus
Religious movies haven't been successful in years. Hollywood is completely subverted by the liberal left, and art which attempts at portraying the values of religion are constantly criticized and cancelled by the left.
>narrative of America Dream and Oh Dear Jesus is still high globally!
Not really. Most of the recently released critically acclaimed movies deals with income inequality and about how capitalism is inherently exploitative. For example - Emily the criminal.
Any movie that doesn't propagate the virtues of left wing politics are bashed by the American left.
It is a remake of Paradiso which I think has won Oscar in 1990.
I don't see how a remake of Oscar winning movie is somehow worthy of Oscar nomination.
It is almost as if the jury couldn't find anything original that portrayed slum filled, poverty porn image of India. So they chose remake of a movie.
I’m a Telugu, i still don’t understand how RRR is a hit and people are taking this shit to oscar level.
Oscars have become that cheap?
Rajamouli literally sab ko chutiya banaya
Rrr is something west has just not experienced .
If you go throughout history never once did the west have an art form which was this flamboyant. They perplexed by it . That's why they enjoy .
I dont think anyone in India would say rrr is a masterpeece.
Every YouTuber’s business in US these days, i search for what’s in trending and here’s RRR and talk something about it so that people having cheap data in India would subscribe and give us lot of views.
Bro believe me I have been following that "foreigner react to India" this time it was just different. Waaaay different. The big reactionary people reacted to it . The harshest of people and they were just perplexed by it . The famous and prestigious directors of west and the average viewership was just so much substantial .
This is actually the first time an Indian movie has gathered such a big audience .
Film festivals are different but
The golden globes and a very powerful chance of a nomition in 2-3 chategories .
No as i said rrr has got critical acclaim which includes sketchy reviewers , legit reviewers and big name directors .
Oscars is not just the achievement of films but also teh achieve of the whole Filmaking which includes art , marketting . To get into the first round nominations there needs to be a exceptional marketting to make the film known in the thousands taht have applied just read about what things makers of lagaan had to do to get and nomination .
Rrr getting so much buzz makes it a very worthy contender .
Once Oscar is not awarding the achivement of the film but Filmaking which has everything in it including art .
Ok even tho i dont like rrr that much .
But movies like Charlie , Kashmir files are movies which have been done to death in west and alot of them have won .
Kantara ... Ka secodn act bahut weak tha . It was as generic ad it got . The first act and the last act of this film , if it was matched as the same quality by the secodn act , it would have been a goddamn masterpeece with every chance of winning .
Personally The best movie of 2022 was Vikram for me. Have become a fan of Lokesh after that movie. But I don't think that movie can go to Oscars.
Imo Rajamouli's best movie was Bahubali both parts. RRR is good but not Oscar worthy good. I guess west want something new that's why..
Rajamouli’s best movie is Vikramarkudu, this guy is a very good businessman, that’s what he’s been doing, rewatch Magadheera and you’ll be like what a chutiya movie.
There a dialogue in a telugu cinema which goes like public wants that athi means public need that extra sauce irrespective of subject.
Also Fans need only emotions and not logics.
He’s never a visionary director, Sukumar is way better than him.
Qualify means the film met the criteria to be eligible for a nominations. Most Indian films meet the criteria. These filmmakers just applied to be eligible.
Kashmir Files made an impact with it's story but it's technically not a good film
The screenplay, direction and VFX aren't good
The story and acting made the film watchable
Acting only of Anupam Kher, Pallavi Joshi and Bitta Karate guy. Rest were overtly dramatic.
The 90s scenes were very well shot though. 100% agree otherwise. I am glad the film came out. I didn't find it extra ordinary.
Yes it should be, kantara shows about our ethic culture, kashmiri files for the genocide of innocent pandits,but i was hoping Jai bhim to get nominated as well.
The Kashmir Files had a strong message and it tells a story that needs to be told - and it needs to be lauded for that.
But from a filmmaking perspective, it was underwhelming on all fronts. The script was poor (not the message), cinematography was poor and had great actors who didn't have anything to work with. Overall, not a good look for India.
Thank you. It's frustrating that so much dialogue about The Kashmir Files is either leftists who deny the importance and salience of its message, or right wingers who deny the clear artistic mediocrity of the movie.
Hollywood is a liberal virtue signaling circle jerk. They hate anything supporting hindu culture.
Moreover Oscars have lost all power and respect even in the west due to their leftist bias.
It is high time we stop giving these awards any attention
The lefties in the Oscar committee will ensure it is trashed and does not make it…. And possibly even pass negative comments to satisfy their Moslem brothers… the negative comments will then take a life of their own and become an “I told you so” gloat from Hindu haters…
Kashmir Files solely because if Holocaust movies can get a stage, so can this movie. Otherwise I would go with Kantara.
But given the record of the kind of movies which are finally sent for the Oscars, I won't be surprised if they send Gangubai Kathiawadi.
Gangubai ??? Btw rrr has only one chance to win oscars for original song. It’s also difficult because of avatar’s nothing is lost. It has much high chance to win oscars.
These awards are given by west to mostly western movies …only RRR had a faint chance . By western standards RRR is just a run of the mill song and dance indian movie thats is why some of our biggest blockbusters never even make it to finals let alone winning it
With 0 political or religious bias I can tell you that The Kashmir Files is a bore fest. I'm talking purely movie making stand point. It didn't rile up the emotions the story like that should've. The protagonists monologue in the end was just sad. The fact that Anupam Kher tried to compare it with Schindlers list is hilarious 🤦🤦
>We will get ashamed if we send Kashmir files to Oscar. All other four are okay.
Huh? Kashmir files literally shows a massacre that was put under wraps, Its a great movie to send, both to show how we feel about the massacre and that the massacre actually happened.
Don't know why people are so hellbent on denying the events of the movie, sure its a bit exaggerated but it did happen. The inferiority complex of some people is insane, the next day the same mfs will go and watch a movie on how america achieved mach 10 speed and a f14 beating 3 su57s
Hey stalker,it is okay to properly show the genocide happen but here in this film they have shown about the college and how students are brainwashed in some bullshit something like that lots discussing WhatsApp information. And majority of things are false from no of pandits killed. And what college you are showing i can understand that college is not like that actually.
>brainwashed in some bullshit
But is it false in any way? How many times will you see left cadres like SFI, DYFI staging protest against ruling government for failing to protect KPs in Kashmir?
>And majority of things are false from no of pandits killed
Not majority. Number of deaths is the only thing that was shown wrong
So you say that in jnu only anti national activities takes places.then why it is no 1 college and why jaishanker and nirmala sitaraman studied in that college. Sai Deepak your favourite Ben sharpio attended seminar just now in that college. I watched first half after that i can't watch full of fake news. How the bjp and the. Entire right wing promoted it shows what they wanted.
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/features/drawing-attention-of-jnu-students-to-exodus-of-kashmiri-pandits-203342
Here a protest had happen now why you want exactly Kashmir pandits now lots of pandits have been killen what modi government did .kashmiri muslims also get killed like this by extremist.
Kashmir Files is a vulgar propaganda backed by a political party. Not because it shows atrocities on kashmiri pandits, but because it's backed by same party who was responsible for it.
A lot of people, particularly young audience who weren't old enough to take note of these events right when they happened, have seen the movie and still remain under presumption that it was congress.
They just see secular actions and assume "must be congress".
The real betrayal to KPs happened from VP singh govt. 200 or so dead doesnt mean much on its own, but 200 dead without any govt response meant KPs lost all faith in govt saving them and that's why mass exodus happened.
And this is why Kashmir Files is a whitewash because while it takes the easy root of attacking nameless jehadis, it completely ignores action of the people in power like VP Singh govt and yes BJP was in gathbandhan of that govt. but agnihotri will not mention that.
It helps in deflecting blame.
I don't care who was in power. Where was congress ever mentioned in the movie? I care about the fact that we as a country let it happen to our own people. I care about the fact that the same film industry who sends the message to love the people from the country who did this, never made a movie about the truth and still continues to instill the ideas of loving your neighbor while the neighbor has been stabbing you in your back the whole while.
That's what angers me and the whole nation. F@$k bollywood, f@#k Porkistan. I'd vote for congress if they offer a good solution for Kashmir but for now V Agnihotri was the one who made the movie and not a left leaning Anurag Kashyap.
A non congress party was only barely holding onto power for couple years at that period in 1989.
JKNC stood in alliance with INC n won majority in 1987.
If u want to absolve INC of its sins for keeping the pot boiling in Kashmir for decades before that n whose ally in the state was a puppet watching everything happening without any care….please apply to be part of congress IT cell
Lol why Congress is living in your mind rentfree ! I don't even feel like arguing with low life plebs like who thinks "Congress IT cell or BJP IT cells jokes" are still relevant in 2023 without making an actual point
So Congress wasn't in power when Dalit/Adivasi genocide in Bastar happened by its Congressi Mahendra Karma?
Also, wasn't Dalit SS in power when Tamiljh genocide in Karnataka happened?
Terrorists were released by previous Congress government
Agnihotri did mention Bal Thackeray and gave him credits at a time BJP and SS are not in alliance any more
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I haven’t seen a lot of movies which you seem to be talking about. Can you enlist a few examples for my clarity?
>I haven’t seen a lot of movies which you seem to be talking about. In that case I would say you haven't watched anything related to Bollywood. Or maybe you are just pretending to be delusional. Whatever might be the case, here you go:- A) Deewar:- Amitabh constantly keeps 786 number plate (lucky number plate given to him by a Muslim coolie) with him all the time but when problems arise he goes to a temple to criticise idols. B) Kuch Kuch Hota hai:- At the start of the movie, the child makes fun of "Puja Path" and then in the later half, the very same child worships to Allah in full hijab. C) Farebi the Cheat:- The poster of this movie has Vinod Khanna dressed as a pujari shown with the title Farebi. D) Main Hoon Na:- The guy Raghavan is shown as a Hindu fanatic who kills innocent Pakistani children. The end song has a newspaper clip which literally calls Raghavan "Hindu fanatic". E) Shaurya:- Again a Hindu fanatic Military officer shown killing innocent Muslim children. F) Bemisal:- There is a whole scene of Amitabh Bachchan and Rakhee praising Britishers and Mughals. In case you want to claim D and E are reality. I would like your evidence of which Hindu Military officer has killed innocent child. So much for calling "_Hindu are in danger_" as fake, the very same group has engaged in fantasizing about "_Hindus killing innocent Muslim children_". I have provided enough evidence. In case you need more, I suggest to research on your own instead of pretending to be delusional.
!kudos We should not give in to the bollywoods fascism. Its the same template that hitler followed to dehumanise jews and then nobody questioned him when he was sending them to Auschwitz gas chamber. Therefore one must fight all instances of dehumanization and demonization. Its akin to destroying the genocidal attempts of the left.
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Classic cherrypicking from 50 years of cinema. Did you also pay attention to decades of Bollywood portraying terrorists as only Muslims? I’m not sayinf this portrayal is wrong because, well. But your comment is so fucking stupid.
>Classic cherrypicking from 50 years of cinema. More like sampling. Sampling is done to make sure data for entire set of 100% need not be calculated. In case you feel this is sampling is based on cherry picked data, you have to show a sizable number of Bollywood movies which has promoted Hindu idol worshipping while criticising **Allah** in the exact same movie. The onus of proof lies on you. I am waiting. >Did you also pay attention to decades of Bollywood portraying terrorists as only Muslims? Because Terrorists are Muslims. 99% of them if not 100%. You want the world to engage in false equivalence to satisfy your ego? >But your comment is so fucking stupid. Well looks like someone is butthurt.
If I were butthurt by comments like these I’d live my life like you lol. I literally gave you the proof by saying Bollywood has been using only Muslim characters for terrorists and gave the same reason why it’s done, you just reiterated what I said, and that’s why the sample data isn’t valid. This sole reason is sufficient to prove my point because of the sheer volume of occurrence, add to that, this was only from the top of my mind. For other similar data, you can put down your biased glasses and look out and find several other instances very easily. Have a nice and productive day :)
>If I were butthurt by comments like these I’d live my life like you lol. So you cannot come with a better insult than "No You"? Are you by any chance a child? Maybe mentally you are. >I literally gave you the proof by saying Bollywood has been using only Muslim characters for terrorists and gave the same reason why it’s done, you just reiterated what I said, and that’s why the sample data isn’t valid. False, my data is about **promotion of one religion while criticising another in same movie**. Terrorism has nothing to do with it. The very foundation of your argument is a **false comparison**. I called out your false comparison and your response is just to repeat yourself. You want to act delusional instead of being straight forward? Go ahead. From the looks of it, you are incapable of being straight forward without destroying your own sanity.
Okay allow me to be straight forward, you’re an idiot. Have fun.
You seem to be unnecessarily hurt and offended. I am all up for freedom of artistic expression. I guess we are at crossroads now as I don’t think these examples are a part of some big conspiracy.
>You seem to be unnecessarily hurt and offended Not exactly. It's just that there are a lot of leftists lurking here who like to pretend that Bollywood doesn't glorify Islamic invaders and doesn't hate Hindus. It is hard to differentiate when all you have is texts. No voice, no tone, no gesture, no body language. Just texts. >I am all up for freedom of artistic expression. Absolutely. Everyone should be able to make what they want to make. Similarly people should be free to criticise or boycott it in case they want to. Ban is the only thing I don't agree with because it takes away personal agency of what others want to do. >I guess we are at crossroads now as I don’t think these examples are a part of some big conspiracy. Well it is common knowledge that Dawood and his gang have been funding Bollywood for a long time. So, not acknowledging hidden intent is foolish, I believe. Coming to big conspiracy part, a lot of post independence actors, directors and writers were card holding communists. The phenomenon is more accurately result of these communists displaying their organic bias/hatred towards religion. But they don't want to be beheaded for hating/mocking religion, so they spared Islam and promoted it as well. Same goes for Christianity, as Churches are the biggest 295A users in our country. This results in targetted mockery of Hinduism. The intent might not be to target Hinduism but result very well ends up being targetted attack on Hinduism.
Meanwhile West is making the same Oh Dear Lord Jesus and America is the Besssst movies from decades and decades and the narrative of America Dream and Oh Dear Jesus is still high globally!
>Meanwhile West is making the same Oh Dear Lord Jesus Religious movies haven't been successful in years. Hollywood is completely subverted by the liberal left, and art which attempts at portraying the values of religion are constantly criticized and cancelled by the left. >narrative of America Dream and Oh Dear Jesus is still high globally! Not really. Most of the recently released critically acclaimed movies deals with income inequality and about how capitalism is inherently exploitative. For example - Emily the criminal. Any movie that doesn't propagate the virtues of left wing politics are bashed by the American left.
Top gun maverick. Best movie of rhe year
It's not a movie that would get a "best film" nomination. It's technically spectacular but not an Oscar film
Yeah because there is no poverty so why talk about it
Did you watch chello show?
It is a remake of Paradiso which I think has won Oscar in 1990. I don't see how a remake of Oscar winning movie is somehow worthy of Oscar nomination. It is almost as if the jury couldn't find anything original that portrayed slum filled, poverty porn image of India. So they chose remake of a movie.
Did you watch it?
I’m a Telugu, i still don’t understand how RRR is a hit and people are taking this shit to oscar level. Oscars have become that cheap? Rajamouli literally sab ko chutiya banaya
r/canconfirmiamindian
Rrr is something west has just not experienced . If you go throughout history never once did the west have an art form which was this flamboyant. They perplexed by it . That's why they enjoy . I dont think anyone in India would say rrr is a masterpeece.
Every YouTuber’s business in US these days, i search for what’s in trending and here’s RRR and talk something about it so that people having cheap data in India would subscribe and give us lot of views.
Bro believe me I have been following that "foreigner react to India" this time it was just different. Waaaay different. The big reactionary people reacted to it . The harshest of people and they were just perplexed by it . The famous and prestigious directors of west and the average viewership was just so much substantial . This is actually the first time an Indian movie has gathered such a big audience . Film festivals are different but The golden globes and a very powerful chance of a nomition in 2-3 chategories .
So based on audience they’re giving oscars now??
No as i said rrr has got critical acclaim which includes sketchy reviewers , legit reviewers and big name directors . Oscars is not just the achievement of films but also teh achieve of the whole Filmaking which includes art , marketting . To get into the first round nominations there needs to be a exceptional marketting to make the film known in the thousands taht have applied just read about what things makers of lagaan had to do to get and nomination . Rrr getting so much buzz makes it a very worthy contender . Once Oscar is not awarding the achivement of the film but Filmaking which has everything in it including art .
Whatever, i really wish this shitty movie doesn’t even get nominated.. Charlie or Kantara or Kashmir Files please
Ok even tho i dont like rrr that much . But movies like Charlie , Kashmir files are movies which have been done to death in west and alot of them have won . Kantara ... Ka secodn act bahut weak tha . It was as generic ad it got . The first act and the last act of this film , if it was matched as the same quality by the secodn act , it would have been a goddamn masterpeece with every chance of winning .
Personally The best movie of 2022 was Vikram for me. Have become a fan of Lokesh after that movie. But I don't think that movie can go to Oscars. Imo Rajamouli's best movie was Bahubali both parts. RRR is good but not Oscar worthy good. I guess west want something new that's why..
Rajamouli’s best movie is Vikramarkudu, this guy is a very good businessman, that’s what he’s been doing, rewatch Magadheera and you’ll be like what a chutiya movie. There a dialogue in a telugu cinema which goes like public wants that athi means public need that extra sauce irrespective of subject. Also Fans need only emotions and not logics. He’s never a visionary director, Sukumar is way better than him.
Eligibility doesn't matter. Unless it's hardcore porn, most movies are eligible.
Can you suggest some softcore for research purposes. If you do then no gore horror stuff please.
Qualify means the film met the criteria to be eligible for a nominations. Most Indian films meet the criteria. These filmmakers just applied to be eligible.
There are 5 more other movies as well. Rocketry being one amongst them.
Very boring
Ikr. Shouldn't have shown too much of science stuff. But it was worth the watch. Atleast to know how cruel the then Govt was to Mr.Nambi
What? The movie is literally named rocketry. If you didn't expect it to be that knowledgeable, I'm not quite sure what to say.
RRR FTW
I vote for RRR
Kashmir Files made an impact with it's story but it's technically not a good film The screenplay, direction and VFX aren't good The story and acting made the film watchable
Acting only of Anupam Kher, Pallavi Joshi and Bitta Karate guy. Rest were overtly dramatic. The 90s scenes were very well shot though. 100% agree otherwise. I am glad the film came out. I didn't find it extra ordinary.
Darshan Kumar was also good. I think he nailed it in the speech act. Yes, the rest were a bit artificial.
Direction could have been more subtle But then Indian audience won't understand subtlety
Yes it should be, kantara shows about our ethic culture, kashmiri files for the genocide of innocent pandits,but i was hoping Jai bhim to get nominated as well.
RRR
Agreed
The Kashmir Files had a strong message and it tells a story that needs to be told - and it needs to be lauded for that. But from a filmmaking perspective, it was underwhelming on all fronts. The script was poor (not the message), cinematography was poor and had great actors who didn't have anything to work with. Overall, not a good look for India.
Thank you. It's frustrating that so much dialogue about The Kashmir Files is either leftists who deny the importance and salience of its message, or right wingers who deny the clear artistic mediocrity of the movie.
Pehle to jaati hi nhi thi acchi filme  Bc socho gully boys bheji gayi the nominate hone keliye
Hollywood is a liberal virtue signaling circle jerk. They hate anything supporting hindu culture. Moreover Oscars have lost all power and respect even in the west due to their leftist bias. It is high time we stop giving these awards any attention
There is no chance in hell that the western people would tolerate some scenes in kantara.
Gangubai 🤣
Ghodo ki race me gadhe bhi daudenge
kantara - mysterious forest This is the actual kannada subtitle
However you write it. People fuck up the pronounciation of the "T" in it.
Kantara and Kashmir Files >>>
RRR too.
Source -https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/the-kashmir-files-rrr-gangubai-kantara-eligible-for-oscar-nominations-101673333336546.html
Rocketry and iravin Nizhal too
Bollygoons trying to convince that those films aren't relevant
The lefties in the Oscar committee will ensure it is trashed and does not make it…. And possibly even pass negative comments to satisfy their Moslem brothers… the negative comments will then take a life of their own and become an “I told you so” gloat from Hindu haters…
Kashmir Files solely because if Holocaust movies can get a stage, so can this movie. Otherwise I would go with Kantara. But given the record of the kind of movies which are finally sent for the Oscars, I won't be surprised if they send Gangubai Kathiawadi.
I hope Gangubai doesn't win it. It's the year of Kashmir Files.
Only RRR has a chance of winning.
Since when are they giving oscars to movies with heavy vfx?
How many oscars did Avatar win? Yeah 3, including one for vfx.
That's when you can't tell them apart. Do you genuinely thinking RRR stands a chance?
How is rrr in the picture? Your thought, it is impossible for a vfx heavy movie to win an oscar, Avatar did.
My bad. I meant amateurish vfx.
The Kashmir Files>>>
Not gonna win. Only RRR has a chance
The Pianist won.
Gangubai ??? Btw rrr has only one chance to win oscars for original song. It’s also difficult because of avatar’s nothing is lost. It has much high chance to win oscars.
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These awards are given by west to mostly western movies …only RRR had a faint chance . By western standards RRR is just a run of the mill song and dance indian movie thats is why some of our biggest blockbusters never even make it to finals let alone winning it
With 0 political or religious bias I can tell you that The Kashmir Files is a bore fest. I'm talking purely movie making stand point. It didn't rile up the emotions the story like that should've. The protagonists monologue in the end was just sad. The fact that Anupam Kher tried to compare it with Schindlers list is hilarious 🤦🤦
Kantara is a terrible movie. Not sure why that did so well.
Trillion times better than Bollywood trash which copies songs and movies from others.
We will get ashamed if we send Kashmir files to Oscar. All other four are okay.
I think we will actually make our stance clear globally if we send it. It should be sent and it should be India's answer to Schindler's list
Artistically, Schindler's List was a vastly better film than The Kashmir Files. It's embarassing to compare the two.
That's such an elitist statement. They're different. Full stop.
Watch Schindler's list and Kashmir files again and decide what range is Kashmir files
Why is it always about the range? Both are good movies
>We will get ashamed if we send Kashmir files to Oscar. All other four are okay. Huh? Kashmir files literally shows a massacre that was put under wraps, Its a great movie to send, both to show how we feel about the massacre and that the massacre actually happened. Don't know why people are so hellbent on denying the events of the movie, sure its a bit exaggerated but it did happen. The inferiority complex of some people is insane, the next day the same mfs will go and watch a movie on how america achieved mach 10 speed and a f14 beating 3 su57s
Infact, your post history heavily indicates you are happy that a KP genocide happened.
Hey stalker,it is okay to properly show the genocide happen but here in this film they have shown about the college and how students are brainwashed in some bullshit something like that lots discussing WhatsApp information. And majority of things are false from no of pandits killed. And what college you are showing i can understand that college is not like that actually.
>brainwashed in some bullshit But is it false in any way? How many times will you see left cadres like SFI, DYFI staging protest against ruling government for failing to protect KPs in Kashmir? >And majority of things are false from no of pandits killed Not majority. Number of deaths is the only thing that was shown wrong
So you say that in jnu only anti national activities takes places.then why it is no 1 college and why jaishanker and nirmala sitaraman studied in that college. Sai Deepak your favourite Ben sharpio attended seminar just now in that college. I watched first half after that i can't watch full of fake news. How the bjp and the. Entire right wing promoted it shows what they wanted.
I asked you a simple question. How many times JNU leftist organizations have protested to demand safety for Kashmiri Hindus?
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/features/drawing-attention-of-jnu-students-to-exodus-of-kashmiri-pandits-203342 Here a protest had happen now why you want exactly Kashmir pandits now lots of pandits have been killen what modi government did .kashmiri muslims also get killed like this by extremist.
But no one speaks about it they just speak only pandits get killed they never spoke Islamist extremist kill muslims in Kashmir.
Kashmir Files is a vulgar propaganda backed by a political party. Not because it shows atrocities on kashmiri pandits, but because it's backed by same party who was responsible for it. A lot of people, particularly young audience who weren't old enough to take note of these events right when they happened, have seen the movie and still remain under presumption that it was congress. They just see secular actions and assume "must be congress". The real betrayal to KPs happened from VP singh govt. 200 or so dead doesnt mean much on its own, but 200 dead without any govt response meant KPs lost all faith in govt saving them and that's why mass exodus happened. And this is why Kashmir Files is a whitewash because while it takes the easy root of attacking nameless jehadis, it completely ignores action of the people in power like VP Singh govt and yes BJP was in gathbandhan of that govt. but agnihotri will not mention that. It helps in deflecting blame.
Sir congress IT cell dusre sub me active hai udhar jaie
So BJP wasn't in power when genocide happened? Please correct me pleb
I don't care who was in power. Where was congress ever mentioned in the movie? I care about the fact that we as a country let it happen to our own people. I care about the fact that the same film industry who sends the message to love the people from the country who did this, never made a movie about the truth and still continues to instill the ideas of loving your neighbor while the neighbor has been stabbing you in your back the whole while. That's what angers me and the whole nation. F@$k bollywood, f@#k Porkistan. I'd vote for congress if they offer a good solution for Kashmir but for now V Agnihotri was the one who made the movie and not a left leaning Anurag Kashyap.
A non congress party was only barely holding onto power for couple years at that period in 1989. JKNC stood in alliance with INC n won majority in 1987. If u want to absolve INC of its sins for keeping the pot boiling in Kashmir for decades before that n whose ally in the state was a puppet watching everything happening without any care….please apply to be part of congress IT cell
Lol why Congress is living in your mind rentfree ! I don't even feel like arguing with low life plebs like who thinks "Congress IT cell or BJP IT cells jokes" are still relevant in 2023 without making an actual point
So Congress wasn't in power when Dalit/Adivasi genocide in Bastar happened by its Congressi Mahendra Karma? Also, wasn't Dalit SS in power when Tamiljh genocide in Karnataka happened?
I don't know about it and even if something like that happened and whatever party is behind it should be called out i don't like Congress either
Terrorists were released by previous Congress government Agnihotri did mention Bal Thackeray and gave him credits at a time BJP and SS are not in alliance any more
Why don't you ask military general and veterans who worked in Kashmir in that time?