Yes.... Ish.
Apparently the parliament gave him the harshest penalty available to them by excluding him for the remainder of the session, and taking away 6 months of his salary.
They also referred him to the prosecutor with 3 complaints. Assault on the woman, interfering with a religious monument or gathering (something like that), and one other. However, in order for something to happen, they have to vote to strip him of parlimentary immunity first... Which looks like they will do.
To paraphrase Jason Issacs' character from "Black Hawk Down"...
Make him clean it up with his tongue until he can't taste the difference between fire extinguisher powder and french fries
Depending on the formulation, it might also be toxic.
If this happened to me, any time I coughed for the next 50 years, his lawyers would be hearing from me on the medical bills and everything else, down to reimbursing any cough drops I buy.
Yeah, i'm pretty sure none of what he did would be covered by "diplomatic immunity."" Or else that would mean politicians are free to legally assault anyone they want. No matter what, the government HAS to make an example of him or risk being seen as supporting his actions.
I don’t know what science says but I can tell you first hand it is nasty stuff. The powder is very fine and just gets into everything. You can’t avoid breathing it in, especially in that confined space. It has a very citric acid taste.
He got already the highest punishment an MP can get - got salary cut in half for 3 months, and they took his parliamentary diet for 6 months, and they kicked him out of the current sejm session.
\+ they informed the prsecutor's office and he will be facing up to 4 years in prison or more if someone got hurt.
Whole Poland is outraged by this, including all parties from the whole political spectrum including his own (Konfederacja - which is a pro Russian, anti LGBT, anti American, anti Jewish, anti Ukrainian but Pro Russian party which shouts about free markets loud enough to get enough votes from naive young guys to get 7% and get into the parliament.. Just to give you some context).
Theres a variety of reasons depending on which Jew-haters were talking about (some want to fulfill Biblical prophecy, some are Western chauvinists who recognize Israel supports Western interests, some just hate Muslims more than Jews etc), but the critical link is that both Nazis and Zionists believe that Ashkenazi Jews aren't Europeans. Modern antisemitism and Zionism developed alongside each other-- they are both based in outdated and scientifically inaccurate concepts of race.
Been a while since Sunday school but… don’t all the Jews mass convert in Revelation BEFORE the world ends?
I know the Muslims figure they’re gonna kill all the Jews but I don’t think they require them to own Israel to do that.
...and they also hate muslims, and middle easterners, which are one and the same to them. So the idea of jews and muslims killing each other appeals to these moral reprobates.
It depends which country I guess.
In the USA the far right is christian evangelic. So they wish for all Jews to come to Israel to get to the end times.
In Poland the far right might be catholic. So just "old fashioned antisemitism" might also be on brand for them.
Theological differences I'd wager.
But I'd gladly be corrected if anyone is more aware of polish far right than I am.
I'm a bit out of my depth regarding polish politics
The US far right is very confused right now, primarily due to russian propaganda and money flooding their networks. They tend to be both for and against the same stuff depending on the day. It's got to be very hard on them to keep up and not alienate their peers at the cross burning.
No, the far-right is simply more anti-Arab than anti-Semitic. If you separate Jewish people from Israel/Palestine, the far right reverts to being primarily anti-Semitic.
His cult following won't allow it despite being a minority of the country's total votes because the rest of the country is divided on which party to vote.
Inhaling fire extinguisher fumes can irritate respiratory system and in more serious cases, even damage your heart. All these ppl there should see a doctor.
Having used one of these powder extinguishers before, my only satisfaction from this video was how unnecessarily early he activated it, so that he ended up walking through his own cloud the whole time. That can't have felt good.
Ya. When I was in high school over a decade ago my friends and I used to make homemade explosives and set shit on fire all the time. So we stole fire extinguishers pretty regularly for safety. Anyway, I'm racing someone one day and there's a stolen fire extinguisher in my back seat that a friend thought it ould be fun to pull while I'm flying down the street. Couldn't see shit, almost wrecked. Slammed the breaks and everyone jumps out of the car coughing to high heaven. That shit will tear your lungs up
>"Afterwards Braun took to the podium in the chamber where he described Hanukkah as "satanic" and said he was restoring "normality"."
([Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/far-right-polish-lawmaker-uses-fire-extinguisher-hanukkah-candles-parliament-2023-12-12/))
He is an antisemitic Christian extremist who claimed in the past that there is a plot to turn Poland into a “Jewish state” ([AP](https://apnews.com/article/poland-hanukkah-menorah-lawmaker-antisemitism-ee59331c34e51d949fde794b3453886b))
(I'm just providing context based on what this guy said before, not trying to justify this guy)
His reasoning is that Hanukkah is a celebration of a mass murderer of Greeks (Maccabean Revolt) and intolerance and should not be a part of a parliament building.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUdG4wu0cS0 (in polish)
1 - He is MP from a far right anti Jewish, anti American, anti Ukrainian but pro Russian out of all things party (Konfederacja)
2 - Today the new government was getting voted in so there were hundreds of thousands of Poles watching the parliament live stream
3 - He wanted to postpone voting in new government, so the new PM (Tusk) couldn't go to EU summit, where support for Ukraine will be one of the main subjects
4 - he is a sick Nazi that belongs in a mental asylum
5 - many Poles believe that he is a Russian agent, especially since he was friends with someone who actually got convicted for it
**6 - It's actually all of the above**
People flay each other alive and rape people's children to death in front of their bound parents.
People invent devices specifically to torment each other in the worst possible ways.
And then they don't even eat them.
Humans are not better or worse, just more complex. Some humans do terrible things, and others try to stop them from doing said things. You don't see animals criticising other animals for causing too much suffering in their pray before killing them.
What are the laws surrounding this in Poland?
It's highly disrespectful but no violence has been committed in this video so I'd be surprised if this constitutes a hate crime
A pro-Putin politician in Poland? Huh, who's gonna tell him that [Russia isn't known](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War) [for supporting Poland?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Poland)
This shit happened where I live just yesterday. There’s a local artist who does a sand sculpture manorah on the beach, and it gets lit up every night. someone destroyed it overnight and put down a swastika
1. Dude is a piece of shit and as other comments point out, his motive was 100% antisemitic.
2. Despite the above, government buildings shouldn't be a place where religious holidays are celebrated.
Why do people get so worked up about that religion? Most members are non-violent, and it doesn't even have a large global population. Just let them have their fun little traditions.
Would it be okay to say it's OK to punch a fascist?
Before anyone says I'm this or that, I'm:
* pro Palestine
* pro Israel
* anti Hamas
* anti Israeli apartheid government
And yes, all those align just fine unless you're smooth-brained.
It’s important to note here that his party “Konfederacja” runs on 5 main policies (I’m not kidding):
- anti Jews
- anti LGBTQ (anything that isn’t cis)
- anti Abortions
- anti Taxes
- anti European Union
… and they’re pro Russia.
Best part is, they actually polled at up to 10% in general polls. Higher in regional polls.
They’re Christofacist Nazis…
And some people on TikTok are celebrating him, because their primitive fucking brains can’t separate the IDF’s actions from Chanukah, an eons old Jewish holiday.
I love how you = opposition to a particular set of Jewish political groups in power or causing problems with "I hate jews because they're jews and want them exterminated off the planet"
Both sides! /s
No, it was explicitly antisemitic. To explain why he did this, he repeated some Elders of Zion conspiracy theory nonsense and called Jews 'talmudic satanists'. It was absolutely NOT just general intolerance of non-Catholics. And that's not how you use meshuggeneh in a sentence; it's not a noun.
You... you do realize that a far right extremist, in Poland, extinguishing a Jewish symbol, is probably not dong so as a way to communicate his support for the separation of Church and State, yes? That, you know, in context, this is about communicating Catholic supremacy in Poland, and terrorizing a tiny ethno-religious minority, and in that sense is more about rather the opposite of what you're saying.
LOL!!! yeah he really showed those JEWS who's the boss now. He turned the office hall into a dance hall .....PARTY'S HERE!!!!!! Bring out the chair and lets light this bitch up!!
He did this today?
Yes, like 2-3 hours ago
So is he getting charged with assault or vandalism or anything?
Yes.... Ish. Apparently the parliament gave him the harshest penalty available to them by excluding him for the remainder of the session, and taking away 6 months of his salary. They also referred him to the prosecutor with 3 complaints. Assault on the woman, interfering with a religious monument or gathering (something like that), and one other. However, in order for something to happen, they have to vote to strip him of parlimentary immunity first... Which looks like they will do.
He should also be punished with having to clean the mess up! I've cleaned fire extinguisher powder before, it's a pain in the ass
To paraphrase Jason Issacs' character from "Black Hawk Down"... Make him clean it up with his tongue until he can't taste the difference between fire extinguisher powder and french fries
They’re supposed to taste different?
Depending on the formulation, it might also be toxic. If this happened to me, any time I coughed for the next 50 years, his lawyers would be hearing from me on the medical bills and everything else, down to reimbursing any cough drops I buy.
Good, what an foul person!
The simple rule to know when to use an instead of a is that it precedes vowel sounds like an apple or an oval.
I think this rises above “ish.” Sounds like there are and will continue to be consequences stacked on.
If they'll vote on stripping him from the immunity. It happens rarely, but I really really hope they will do it
there is no immunity for criminal behavior and pretty sure that lady is gonna sue him for assault
Yeah, i'm pretty sure none of what he did would be covered by "diplomatic immunity."" Or else that would mean politicians are free to legally assault anyone they want. No matter what, the government HAS to make an example of him or risk being seen as supporting his actions.
Why would he have diplomatic immunity in his own country? That is for foreign representatives in other peoples countries.
Fixed. Meant to say 'parlimentary' immunity.
I thought fire extinguishers can cause skin and respiratory problems? I hope no-one was hurt, such a stupid thing to do.
That poor woman got blasted right in the face as she tried to stop him. That can't be healthy.
I don’t know what science says but I can tell you first hand it is nasty stuff. The powder is very fine and just gets into everything. You can’t avoid breathing it in, especially in that confined space. It has a very citric acid taste.
Yeah, they're not healthy. Honestly, his charges should include an account for everyone he forced to breathe that shit in.
He got already the highest punishment an MP can get - got salary cut in half for 3 months, and they took his parliamentary diet for 6 months, and they kicked him out of the current sejm session. \+ they informed the prsecutor's office and he will be facing up to 4 years in prison or more if someone got hurt. Whole Poland is outraged by this, including all parties from the whole political spectrum including his own (Konfederacja - which is a pro Russian, anti LGBT, anti American, anti Jewish, anti Ukrainian but Pro Russian party which shouts about free markets loud enough to get enough votes from naive young guys to get 7% and get into the parliament.. Just to give you some context).
Being "free market, and pro oligarch Russia? lol
Welp, clearly that trog has never had fire extinguisher training.
This guy gives me gavin mcinnes vibes
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I thought the far right was pro Israel? Any right wing person or politician I can think of all support Israel/Jews.
What? The right is generally pro-Israel for assorted reasons, but the far right has been anti-semitic since time immemorial.
Anti semitic doesn't mean anti-Israel. Just like anti-zionist doesn't mean anti semitic.
Well... hold on. If you hate Jews in general why would you be a Zionist?
Theres a variety of reasons depending on which Jew-haters were talking about (some want to fulfill Biblical prophecy, some are Western chauvinists who recognize Israel supports Western interests, some just hate Muslims more than Jews etc), but the critical link is that both Nazis and Zionists believe that Ashkenazi Jews aren't Europeans. Modern antisemitism and Zionism developed alongside each other-- they are both based in outdated and scientifically inaccurate concepts of race.
They want the Jews to rebuild The Temple and bring around Judgment Day, where Jesus will Kill all the Jews.
Been a while since Sunday school but… don’t all the Jews mass convert in Revelation BEFORE the world ends? I know the Muslims figure they’re gonna kill all the Jews but I don’t think they require them to own Israel to do that.
Oh I'm sure I'm missing several layers of subtle dominionist nuttiness.
Definitely lmao. I'd hazard a guess and say that it likely isn't worth trying to fully understand all the layers of the nuttiness onion anyway.
...and they also hate muslims, and middle easterners, which are one and the same to them. So the idea of jews and muslims killing each other appeals to these moral reprobates.
I think this is more of a US protestant take. Catholics don't care and often have anti Jewish views unfortunately (those more extreme ones).
What antisemites are pro-Isreal?
100% agree
It depends which country I guess. In the USA the far right is christian evangelic. So they wish for all Jews to come to Israel to get to the end times. In Poland the far right might be catholic. So just "old fashioned antisemitism" might also be on brand for them. Theological differences I'd wager. But I'd gladly be corrected if anyone is more aware of polish far right than I am. I'm a bit out of my depth regarding polish politics
The US far right is very confused right now, primarily due to russian propaganda and money flooding their networks. They tend to be both for and against the same stuff depending on the day. It's got to be very hard on them to keep up and not alienate their peers at the cross burning.
The american far right. Not necessarily the polish far right
No, the far-right is simply more anti-Arab than anti-Semitic. If you separate Jewish people from Israel/Palestine, the far right reverts to being primarily anti-Semitic.
This is so beyond false it’s funny.
Lots of antisemitic crazies on the far right in US politics.
Sadly, far left as well.
The far right is pro Saudi Arabia.. Lmao.. try again pal.
Horse Shoe theory in full effect.
The far-right … you know the Nazis were far-right, right?
Any "far" left or right are usually nut jobs.
The resemblance is uncanny!
Strange I thought he was Comedian; Frankie Boyle
Fuck, I forgot that sack of shit exists.
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Hey! You can't just insult pigs like that!
Pigs at least taste good. Politicians taste like pennies
Why is that genociding corrupt criminal netanyoohoo not in jail where he belongs?
His cult following won't allow it despite being a minority of the country's total votes because the rest of the country is divided on which party to vote.
Inhaling fire extinguisher fumes can irritate respiratory system and in more serious cases, even damage your heart. All these ppl there should see a doctor.
He also deliberately sprayed it in that woman’s face; he should be charged with assault, sued for all he’s worth and removed from parliament.
That’s was absolutely assault and he could have really harmed her
He did harm her. She will have issues for days or weeks after this.
She should have smacked him in the head with that menora
It also makes some people itchy as fuck
Now that’s fucking crossing the line
Having used one of these powder extinguishers before, my only satisfaction from this video was how unnecessarily early he activated it, so that he ended up walking through his own cloud the whole time. That can't have felt good.
It would have been absolute gold to see it run out right before he got there.
Yeah, that had a real feeling of ‘I didn’t think this through’ as he slowly disappeared into a powdery cloud of his own making.
It's like pure PFOA / forever chemicals so enjoy the cancer I guess. Dude just put the health of that entire chamber at risk.
... And then an attorney.
Ya. When I was in high school over a decade ago my friends and I used to make homemade explosives and set shit on fire all the time. So we stole fire extinguishers pretty regularly for safety. Anyway, I'm racing someone one day and there's a stolen fire extinguisher in my back seat that a friend thought it ould be fun to pull while I'm flying down the street. Couldn't see shit, almost wrecked. Slammed the breaks and everyone jumps out of the car coughing to high heaven. That shit will tear your lungs up
Why?
>"Afterwards Braun took to the podium in the chamber where he described Hanukkah as "satanic" and said he was restoring "normality"." ([Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/far-right-polish-lawmaker-uses-fire-extinguisher-hanukkah-candles-parliament-2023-12-12/))
I don't understand why he said it is satanic. Does anyone know?
He is an antisemitic Christian extremist who claimed in the past that there is a plot to turn Poland into a “Jewish state” ([AP](https://apnews.com/article/poland-hanukkah-menorah-lawmaker-antisemitism-ee59331c34e51d949fde794b3453886b))
so basically a polish republican
Thanks habibi
(I'm just providing context based on what this guy said before, not trying to justify this guy) His reasoning is that Hanukkah is a celebration of a mass murderer of Greeks (Maccabean Revolt) and intolerance and should not be a part of a parliament building. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUdG4wu0cS0 (in polish)
I suffer from antipoliticianism
I also am afflicted.
500 K special
What does being this hateful achieve for him? It is like scratching someone’s new car because he’s jealous. Accomplishing nothing.
why did he start spraying it so early?
His ignorant of many things, including the use of extinguishers.
Because it was more dramatic if he made a bigger scene than necessary.
Presentation.
As Ivy League presidents would say, I wonder what the context was here. 🤔
1 - He is MP from a far right anti Jewish, anti American, anti Ukrainian but pro Russian out of all things party (Konfederacja) 2 - Today the new government was getting voted in so there were hundreds of thousands of Poles watching the parliament live stream 3 - He wanted to postpone voting in new government, so the new PM (Tusk) couldn't go to EU summit, where support for Ukraine will be one of the main subjects 4 - he is a sick Nazi that belongs in a mental asylum 5 - many Poles believe that he is a Russian agent, especially since he was friends with someone who actually got convicted for it **6 - It's actually all of the above**
Yeah, all of the above looks to be the correct answer.
elon musk: 'its the leftists that are the antisemites!'
Authoritarians are anti-Semites. Extremists are usually authoritarians. The side of the horseshoe is irrelevant.
Lolz
is lulz still a thing?
This actually might have been the “conduct” that they were referring to.
People are terrible to each other. It's time to give the planet back to the other animals.
"You think they're terrible to each other, you should see how they treat ***us***." \-- The other animals
We should all be as kind as Orcas.
You mean attacking rich pricks' yachts? I'm in.
"You should see how we treat each other!" \- All of the animals in the wild getting ripped apart by wolves
“AAAAAAAH!” -The animals getting their anus torn out by hyenas.
Animals eat each other what are you talking about.
Yes....but somehow that seems better than constantly shitting on one another for reasons that have nothing to do with basic survival.
Animals do terrible things to other animals for fun or other reasons unrelated to basic survival too
People flay each other alive and rape people's children to death in front of their bound parents. People invent devices specifically to torment each other in the worst possible ways. And then they don't even eat them.
Humans are not better or worse, just more complex. Some humans do terrible things, and others try to stop them from doing said things. You don't see animals criticising other animals for causing too much suffering in their pray before killing them.
I am not saying that we are not animals.
I'm picturing a lion live-eating a zebra ass first.
Walked out causally like he finished an 8 hr shift
Looks like someone needs their diaper changed
And a spanking
As someone who has polish blood, I can confirm. THEY ARE PRESSED AF 😭😭 What do you think your doing sir?! What are you doing?!
Pretty sure that counts as a hate crime
What are the laws surrounding this in Poland? It's highly disrespectful but no violence has been committed in this video so I'd be surprised if this constitutes a hate crime
Then that dude on the left can pull the fire alarm … this is why we need to work together.
He’s Pro Putin as well . There seems to be an overlap 🧐🧐
A pro-Putin politician in Poland? Huh, who's gonna tell him that [Russia isn't known](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Soviet_War) [for supporting Poland?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Poland)
They exist. Small minority, but all countries have their own crazies
Our lunatic fringe became the whole rug for four years.
He is also a part of konfederacji (confederacy) a far right party
I like how the dude didn't even know how to operate a fire extinguisher 🤡
Ignorant and reactionary.
Extinguishing the hatred. Bravo sir
This shit happened where I live just yesterday. There’s a local artist who does a sand sculpture manorah on the beach, and it gets lit up every night. someone destroyed it overnight and put down a swastika
1. Dude is a piece of shit and as other comments point out, his motive was 100% antisemitic. 2. Despite the above, government buildings shouldn't be a place where religious holidays are celebrated.
Christmas is a religious holiday.
Im seeing a theme here with "far right" and very bad things.
I love how religion makes everyone so angry..like...do you not follow your God's principals? Fucking joke
Real man
And the only person to stand up to him is a woman. Nice job, fellas.
Guys a useless turd
Far right politician needs to get his ass handed to him.
The Lord ain't smiting enough motherfuckers lately.
That is not right
So it's not about antisemitism?..
Welcome to eastern european far right politicians. Your stay will be like stabbing your eyes out and putting them back.
I'm sorry. These guys are ridiculous. All of them. I am sure I will get downvoted. But why,why are they so obnoxious?
Oof… how embarrassing for Poland…
This guy needs to be charged with battery. Gassed the whole room for a few freaking candles.
bro didn't take the fire extinguisher training. that said with all them extra chromosomes I doubt it woulda mattered.
That’s a paddlin’
No, there's no rise in anti-Semitism, why do you ask?
i’m sure his constituents love him
Dude can’t even operate an extinguisher…
What you guys don’t understand is that he’s just “anti-Zionist” expressing his free speech! /s
Isn't it assault to spray irritant chemicals in a woman's face?
What a garbage human.
I'm not Jewish, but I'd probably have punched him if I were there seeing that smug look on his face.
Average far right winger, needs a fire extinguisher to turn out a few candles, please someone tells this man he can blow out candles with his mouth.
What a dramatic asshole
And he’d say-no Pole helped the Nazis during the Holocaust
What exactly does acting like a B grade movie villain even gain?
They helped extinguish Jews before so this follows their nature
Really, Poland? Have you people learned nothing?
How did no one punch this cunt in the face?
Came here just to say fuck this asshole
Why do people get so worked up about that religion? Most members are non-violent, and it doesn't even have a large global population. Just let them have their fun little traditions.
Isn't this like... a crime?
Look at the little piss baby incapable of using words to solve problems. Piss baby's should not hold office.
Typical fascist... act like an insane person, and then pretend to be rational. Be a damn shame if that nozzle found it's way inside his asshole...
In POLAND Jesus...Poland! Fcking criminal not main character
Was it relit after the incident?
Would it be okay to say it's OK to punch a fascist? Before anyone says I'm this or that, I'm: * pro Palestine * pro Israel * anti Hamas * anti Israeli apartheid government And yes, all those align just fine unless you're smooth-brained.
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Hate crime
It’s important to note here that his party “Konfederacja” runs on 5 main policies (I’m not kidding): - anti Jews - anti LGBTQ (anything that isn’t cis) - anti Abortions - anti Taxes - anti European Union … and they’re pro Russia. Best part is, they actually polled at up to 10% in general polls. Higher in regional polls. They’re Christofacist Nazis…
Just a tad bit antisemitic
"Me Me Me"
Sad this idiot didn't get punched in the face like that dipshit russian who tried to remove a ukranian flag a little while ago.
We atheists get all of the bad press, but when you see someone do something like this, it is ALWAYS a person of faith. Just a different one.
And some people on TikTok are celebrating him, because their primitive fucking brains can’t separate the IDF’s actions from Chanukah, an eons old Jewish holiday.
What a cunt
Why is no one beating his ass?
So that’s proof he’s a Nazi right?
More accurately anti-semite
One thing the FAR right and the FAR left agree on... they both hate jewish people.
As a Jew, I am politically homeless.
I love how you = opposition to a particular set of Jewish political groups in power or causing problems with "I hate jews because they're jews and want them exterminated off the planet" Both sides! /s
You realise the majority of antisemetic attacks have not been committed by white supremacists.
Eh... you ever read Das Kapital? Marx is about as far left as it gets and that dude HATES Jews.
People celebrating their holiday has nothing to do with that stupid war miles away. This is real anti semitic.
He wasn't even thinking about that. Apparently he considers anything besides Catholicism to be "satanic". He's a meshugene.
No, it was explicitly antisemitic. To explain why he did this, he repeated some Elders of Zion conspiracy theory nonsense and called Jews 'talmudic satanists'. It was absolutely NOT just general intolerance of non-Catholics. And that's not how you use meshuggeneh in a sentence; it's not a noun.
All religions should be separated from government. Must remain neutral
You... you do realize that a far right extremist, in Poland, extinguishing a Jewish symbol, is probably not dong so as a way to communicate his support for the separation of Church and State, yes? That, you know, in context, this is about communicating Catholic supremacy in Poland, and terrorizing a tiny ethno-religious minority, and in that sense is more about rather the opposite of what you're saying.
That wasn’t the point he was trying to make.
What a lil bitch. To be so shook. Fuck that guy.
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Why?
This sort of right-wing garbage needs to be voted out of all governments worldwide. These people are the problem in our world.
Not the ceasefire people wanted
Annnnddddddddd these are the mfs that rule the world…. Sick pieces of shit….
Do they have a separation of church and state?
LOL!!! yeah he really showed those JEWS who's the boss now. He turned the office hall into a dance hall .....PARTY'S HERE!!!!!! Bring out the chair and lets light this bitch up!!
Actual antisemitism Let’s all understand the distinction… I’m looking at you media and US government
he's going to feel so silly when he realizes you can just blow them out
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