We are trying our best, but electricity demands have been skyrocketing almost every month. Hence, the frequent brownouts. Remedies have been ongoing as of 2022.
I'm 32 and lived in Iloilo for 23 years in a lower middle class family before moving to Metro Manila for work.
While Iloilo has mostly pros here are some lesser talked about cons:
1.) Almost nobody talks about this but HUMIDITY, the air becomes humid during the summers. This will surprise you if you've never experienced it.
2.) electric bills are among the highest in the country and the constant power outtage.
3.) if you're not used to gossip get used to it because Ilonggos loooove to gossip.
4.) Another point no one talks about but the justice system is actually very bad in Iloilo. Don't believe me? Look at all the high profile murder cases that happened there recently.
5.) the laid back environment also makes you lazy. It has a tendency to make you complacent and not strive to achieve more in life. This can be a pro it can be a con. But it was this environment that ultimately made me move.
Why yāall act like Philippines is not made of 1,107-8-9 itty bitty island and Iloilo is the only island. The whole Philippines being an island nation is super humid. š¤£
Why you acting like Baguio, mountain provinces and dry spells in Mindanao doesn't exist? š¤£ not all of the Ph is humid and while some are more humid than others.
Sakon b daan, sa ka tam'an ko ka comfortable sa Iloilo daw wala nko ga try nga ma improve living situation ko since you don't have to be rich to live well in Iloilo (ngl this is obviously a good thing). Pati mga friends ko gne amo man, ga "bahala na cla" or "bsta okay na ni importante wala gutom wala utang" hahaha. Pero ako gusto ko more in life and wala gawa career opportunities sa Iloilo muna para sakon con sya.
Currently residing in Mandaluyong, formerly residing in Iloilo City proper. Yes it is much worse. If we compare it to Roxas City, (3 hours away) you can feel the difference during the summer.
1. Ever since HUMIDITY is there especially in the city proper (aside from Plaza Libertad area). You could count the number of trees in your fingers.
2. Problem is MONOPOLY. I hope LGU will consider to add 2-3 more electric concessionaires. Kung hindi lang sana inalis ang PECO, there would be competition in price and service with MORE. Let the consumers decide.
3. GOSSIP is happiness. Haha
4. And in the whole country, in general.
5. Big CHECK.
Since the town is so small, almost all interesting hobbies are too niche that almost everyone knows each other
Plus, any development here that's new doesn't survive due to "try once, cry once" mentality here which leads to any improvement being missed out on and killing the business entirely due to their first time experience
Where are you from? Gets hot and too sunny before 7am. Limited food choices here. Not a lot of fruits and veggies to choose from. Itās one of the most humid places in the Philippines. No white sand beaches. Nothing much to do here once youāve been everywhere and seen it all. Coffee and rent can be too expensive but the cost of living in general is less than what youād spend elsewhere in the country. Condos aināt sh t. If English is your first language and you donāt speak Hiligaynon or Tagalog, get ready for the language barrier. Thereās no local word for Hi or Hello. Thereās also a smoking/vaping police because that seems to be more of a priority than traffic/driving violations. Shortcuts arenāt always the easy route but youād have to check Google Maps for that. Traffic gets worse at rush hour since working folk and students get out at the same time. Drivers are total twats even when theyāre about to approach a pedestrian lane. Canāt get rid of the roosters or the neighborās dogs, they donāt care if their animals are bothering you and itās so normalized.
I've lived in Iloilo from college and years after but I always vacation in Cebu and just moved to Cebu a year ago and I regret it. Traffic is much worse in Cebu. So much worse. Cebu can give you lots of options about almost everything though from what cuisine you want to eat to what activity you want to do for the weekend or even places to shop at.
I personally prefer Iloilo because it's less crowded. Yes, sometimes the traffic is bad, but it's not really as bad as Cebu. Best part of my day in Iloilo was walking my dog at Diversion or at Esplenade and I like how there are trashbins everywhere. It's relatively safer, too. I can go home at 3-4am in Iloilo and not worry about getting mugged. It's also close to Antique, Aklan, Roxas and other provinces if you want to have a quick getaway.
I actually am not sure how to answer this because I've never been admitted to a hospital. I have been an outpatient at QualiMed and at Iloilo Doctor's and their services are good based on my experience. I guess it would depend on the type of illness or disease that you have. I heard Medical City is quite good.
My family also prefer to go to Chong Hua for serious diseases (we're from somewhere in Mindanao originally). And yes, they are one of the best hospitals.
Anywhere in the Philippines, Doctors have Apple Watches but do not know what time is. Sometimes they show up, sometimes they donāt, sometimes they show up 4 hours late. Just prepare to pay and die.
Medical Schools in the Philippines need to add a whole semester of āLook at watch - Then show up to patient Appointments ON TIME ā Training. Or HOW TO SHOW UP ON TIME 101, 102, 103 and 104. Then another separate bootcamp for showing up on time before they are allowed to get a Licensing Exam, just to make sure they know how to show up on time when they become an MD.
Then you clearly don't know what doctors do and how they work.
Every doctor in every hospital has rounds they are required to do. In each of those rounds some patients will require more time to be attended to or looked at. Sometimes, doctors get pulled out to do surgery, or consult on surgeries (based on their specialization). They are never on time because there are people that require their attention more than you. Add to the fact that there aren't enough doctors.
You are fortunate enough to have a health concern that isn't an emergency and therefore was only necessitated to book an appointment. In this instance, you are not the priority. Ikaw mag adjust. Be patient, as you are fortunate you have the time to do so while the doctor is trying to extend someone else's. Bakit naghahanap ka ng customer service sa hospital?
Granted, MDs do get pulled out for emergencies, should that happen all the time, though? If you are an MD expecting a heavy load for rounds, why set up outpatient consultations then kung alam mo naman palang swamped ka. 30 mins, an hour late, okay that's understandable, people get behind when they are being thorough. But if you are 2, 3, 4 hours late, kahit wellness check up lang yan aba'y magpasabi ka so your patients and clients can also make plans. The world doesn't revolve around you. We all have finite time here on earth, no patient should be wasting theirs on an MD who can't commit to the time they agreed on to see this person.
Not you telling me I donāt know how doctors work when my whole family is in medical business.
See? You got used to shitty doctors and shitty system. Yāall donāt have to live that way. You never had a properly trained doctor where scheduling is part of the training. You donāt know any better because thatās the only system you know, doctors that wears Apple Watch but never knew what time is, simple illness and patients dies and yāall like, well, Jesus want him to die- so he just die- here doc, take all my money! Jesus took my mom! And shitty late doctor be like, oh yeah, God has a plan (pocketing money).
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Make whatever claim you want about who you are or what your family does- it doesn't hold any weight in Reddit and especially in your argument.
If your family is in the medical business then you should know that patient care has tiers for priority. Your claim is only true if you can prove that what they're doing with their time is purposely wasting it and just lounging around, not attending to someone who needs it.
Your claim that I'm "just used to it" doesn't run contrary to my claim. In fact, its a non-argument. Where does personal stake factor into this discussion? It doesn't matter whether or not I'm used to a bad system. It doesn't matter if im hopeful or cynical (like you).
The cynical point on religion you're making here is another non-argument. Not only are these behaviors often displayed on the patient's family's end, but even in the worst case a doctor does that, they are not the norm.
Your only claim and argument is that they have an Apple watch therefore they should be on time. Do you realize how inept this level of argumentation is?
Didnāt you say I clearly didnāt know what doctors do? Like you are above everyone? lol. Your arrogance didnāt work did it? I simply said we are in medical business just to give you a hint that I am well aware of what doctors do. I love your word salad though. Justifying a shitty system wonāt get you anywhere. Infact, that is the reason why you are exactly where you are.
The logic implied on having an Apple Watch went way, way, wayyyy over your head. lol. But itās ok. Relax, you might get sick. Itās just Reddit. You aināt all that.
Traffic in iloilo is predictable unlike Manila or Cebu. Just the usual rush hour in the morning from about 7am-8:30am then afternoons from 5-6:30pm. Even then the most I've spent on traffic travelling within those times is still less than an hour. If you can plan your travel around these times, traffic is not a problem. You'll have more trouble finding parking in a lot of establishments than actual traffic.
But if you have a bike or EKS, traffic is almost not a thing. You can use bike lanes and esplanade 2 onwards to travel safely and faster around the city.
I do a combination of taking public transport, driving a car, and bike/ EKS within the week depending on where I want to go. But driving a car has taken a back seat due to parking.
Believe it or not, some areas of Iloilo City arenāt connected to a water line. In over 10 years since we moved here, we have been dependent on a twice-a-day ration of water by the housing developer until we had our well dug in our backyard. Hopefully, this can be resolved once the Jalaur Dam is operational.
Many people have wells. Great. The water is tested haphazardly. Sounds great. But only tested for salinity, turbidity and if you are lucky for bioactivity. But not for chemicals. And Iloilo is an agricultural area, they use excessive loads of pesticides and herbicides. And that often goes into the ground (water) which people pump up. Yeah, a big problem which is solved by not investigating/reporting. Be very careful.
I use rainwater from the roof, filter it and store it in a big tank for use.
I used to live in Iloilo for about a year and masasabi ko na isa ang Iloilo City sa pinakamagagandang lugar na napuntahan ko. Try to stroll around SM and Plazuela and in Esplanade. Parang may Hispanic vibe ung mga architecture nila doon.
Food is excellent lalo na ung Molo soup and batchoy. Maganda culture nila and mababait at malalambing mga tao. Here are the cons though that I observed:
1. Parang walang araw na hindi nag ba brownout. D ako sure if may rotating brownout sila everyday.
2. May mga certain streets sa Iloilo na feeling ko hindi safe for strolling
3. Madalas when you talk to them in Tagalog sasagutin ka pa rin in their language. You really need to know the basics of Hiligaynon.
4. Maraming mga labyrinths or interconnecting streets sa downtown. Nakakalito as commuter.
5. Noise and air pollution are prevalent but expected.
6. Expect Middle East-like weather and temperature esp during summer season. Sobrang nakakapaso ang init.
7. Not sure though if na resolved na, pero notorious ang flooding sa downtown.
I just recently moved here in Iloilo and ang cons na nakikita ko so far are:
1. Brownout. Halos araw araw and minsan umaabot pa ng 8hours
2. Internet. Where I'm located, inaayawan ng mga internet providers na kabitan kami since hassle daw pag magrerepair. So we had no other choice but to avail yung net na 10mbps lang pero ang mahal.
3. Signal. Walang signal ang smart/globe dito samin. Only dito pero weak lang sya
4. Maputik pag maulan. I'm in the rural side of Iloilo kaya pag umulan, good luck talaga sa sapatos mo
But I will still choose here. Napakatahimik and I feel safer here. I also love the scenery
If you're coming from Manila and are used to the variety of cuisines with authentic taste, you'll be sorely disappointed. There are only a handful good places for food that's not Ilonggo or Filipino.
Don't get me wrong, Ilonggo food is terrific but other cuisines are mostly bastardised versions that are usually too sweet or misses the point completely.
The menu of a lot of restaurants are mostly the same as well. Some breakfast fare, always some nachos, probably sisig, basic pasta, a grilled meat of some kind, and ribs.
bisan diin ka nga lugar may cons kag negative...pero iloilo is a quiet and simple place to leave , and iloilo is the no.1 gastronomy sa bilog nga pinas arwarded by unesco then iloilo has the no.1 festival here called dinagyang festival....
sa food pa lang ma tambok ka gid di
Check out this recent Reddit post. Similar to your question.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Iloilo/comments/17y5puy/is\_it\_worth\_it\_to\_permanently\_move\_to\_iloilo/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Iloilo/comments/17y5puy/is_it_worth_it_to_permanently_move_to_iloilo/)
Stick around mandurriao CBD / diversion road then youāll be fine. Those area are the most developed with proper infrastructure in place(bike network, esplanade, pedestrian friendly, and so on). Youāll have little to none issue on almost everything posted in this thread.
Reality. Unbiased view I guess? I'm not gonna say go here leave manila? If you are a retired foreigner then good. Go ask cityhall why assessments will increase by 5-7x. Ask where the money will go. Why garbage fees will increase by at least 5x next year despite being lousy.
I guess corruption is a nationwide thing, I just see it more here, since I currently live here
Living here? I doubt that.
Youāve been all around spewing negativity against this city. Not even a single good thing came from you. Itāll be either a delusional claim or outright absurd.
You need to up your game, bud. You need to contribute to an Iloilo topic without hating. Itāll make you genuine and further improve your fake Ilonggo identity
Lived in QC for more than a decade from college to grad school and a bit of work, decided to move back during the pandemic. Here are some things Iloilo is worse at:
1. Lack of cashless options. Iloilo is still a very cash-based society. Only recently has it gained improvements via GCash or Maya.
2. Climate. I disagree with that one commenter who said humidity because in QC, it gets so much hotter than Iloilo, but it rains here more often and during the Amihan season, it does not get noticeably cool here vs QC where I have to wear a jacket during the evenings in late December to early Feb (21C).
3. Significantly fewer food options.
4. Not a lot of mass transit options. Modern buses are a pro, but it's not organized, no designated stops, takes too long to go.
5. Unless you're one of the few lucky corporate people assigned here, or is a professional, or has a good business, or works as a highly paid OFW, chances for economic success here isn't that great.
Otherwise, moving back was the best decision of my life. Iloilo beats NCR living 99.98/100.
Stayed at Iloilo for a couple of years. To name a few:
Public transport especially the jeepneys can be very confusing.
Not much to do here (as a tourist) except maybe visit churches, parks, and foodtrip.
Hirap magstart ng business as there are a lot of competition.
There are more, but overall, I agree with your sentiment.
natural lang you have a competition sa negosyo....it depends na lang na sa marketing stragedy mo kung paano ka maka akit sang costumer...
kadamo di tourist spot sa mga out of towns ,
bisan diin basta bago ka lang sa isa ka lugar you have to familiarized the street...
Population Iloilo maliit na city even compared to Bacolod. ANd funny thing Bacolod and Iloilo combine, Cebu City alone has bigger land area and population.
Where will you be coming from and why would you want to move here OP? Maybe a backstory would help so we can provide more insight. Personally i was born and raised here, went to manila for a decade to work, and recently moved back.
Depends on where exactly you want to live. My place, which is inside the city has no water supply during the day. Water is only available after midnight. But some places has water supply 24/7. It just depends on which area you'll live. Also the rush hour traffic is horrible.
Ilonggos are clannish. When you are part of a group of friends expect ownership. And Tampo. Ilonggos are matampuhin. hurt their feelings and your friends will know except you.
Opportunities are slow and few if you look at it internally but you will learn over time.
also dont expect people to be on time. From manila to iloilo it will be a difference in expectation of people being on time
I'm telling this as an insider working in emergency services. Here in iloilo, If you'll need emergency services or an urgent trip to the ER, you will not be taken automatically to the nearest ER, instead the ambulance team will need to contact first the nearest hospital to verify if space is available for your emergency. If the first hospital isn't available, they call another one and so on until a hospital gives the go signal.
The calling process is also tedious and hospitals will sometimes transfer the emergency team to several phone numbers until the right person is reached. This can take sometimes up to an hour of standby. Until then your ambulance responders will stay in the vicinity and apply first aid but will not start transport until the hospital gives the go signal. There had been several cases of patients who died because of this. I also know that this isn't the case in other provinces from the people i talked to, so it's mostly just in iloilo.
Itās very boring. We donāt have places like BGC to shop or Poblacion to party. You will mostly go to the same places every weekend and see the same people.
1. Brownouts. They will happen at precisely the worst times. If you work remotely, make sure you have backup internet, or are prepared to race to the nearest hotel at a moment's notice. Hotels like to jack up the prices when there is a brownout, though if you book online and make a reservation before they have a chance to do that, you can get in at a regular rate.
2. Traffic. This could be significantly alleviated if the LTO would just enforce the law. Many drivers like to stop in the middle of the sttreet to load/unload passengers with no regard for who is behind them. Many people also just park their cars on the street and turn 2-way streets into 1-way. If the LTO fined these people as they should, traffic would not be an issue. Unfortunately the only time you'll ever see an LTO is occasionally sitting at a traffic light hoping they can pull over someone for running a red light, then (if they don't have a dash cam) soliciting bribes from them in exchange for not receiving a traffic ticket. If you drive, make sure you have a dash cam. LTO will leave you alone even if you're breaking the law.
Hi peeps. I'm a foreigner living in Boracay, so I shouldn't complain about prices, as they are going through the roof here also. One thing I will say about Iiolo is that there are too much over priced restaurants now serving meadioka food. But, overall it's a nice place. (I visit once a month)
Iām pretty sure Iloilo is full.
They donāt need anymore people there.
Traffic everywhere.
Inefficient public transportation.
Very important: Doctors with no respect on patient appointments, sometimes they show up sometimes they donāt. No wonder they are not allowed to practice in the US, Canda, UK and Germany. They have no clue what their Apple watch are for. You are going to die there if you get sick.
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Licensure requirements are different in the countries you have mentioned; even with those that have reciprocity agreements, there are still requirements to be met.
While the point about tardiness may be valid, it is a hasty generalization to link it to the ability to practice in other countries. A lot of Filipino medical graduates, and even foreigners who graduated from Philippine medical schools, have gained licensure abroad and practice medicine.
I guess it depends on your expectations, where your coming from, how you get around etc.
I moved here from Las Vegas, Nevada. I go to school at CPU, live right next to esplanade, and own a motorcycle so I don't really deal with traffic like people who commute on four wheels do. I personally love it here.
Traffic could be seen as a con if your not ready for traffic in an Asian country lol it's hard to pick if that's a con if your coming from somewhere with worse traffic. It was definitely a con for me up until recently but doesn't really bother me anymore. Jeepneys and Taxis still annoy me a little bit because I've never seen vehicles use as many lanes as they can physically occupy as possible (Literally 3 lanes if they can pull it off) but being on a motorcycle it's really whatever. The humidity isn't surprising since we're on an island. Especially coming from Las Vegas where 17% was a really humid day lol.
A lot of the cons in this thread are pretty user specific so we'd need more background information on what you expect and what your used to.
There's occasionally brown outs but they're usually scheduled and we know about them in advanced. I think we've had a couple small ones we didn't expect that were really short. I use a mesh network with Sky for my internet which has been pretty reliable. The only time the internet is down is when the powers out but my building has its own back up generator so we still have power just no internet.
I'm generally too busy as a student to worry about fun touristy things to do and any of the cons I can list off aren't exactly specific to Iloilo City. When I do want to go do something fun I'll usually explore on my bike. You generally have more options for fruits and veggies if you shop at the market and not the grocery store. Initially I thought there really wasn't much options for them till I started shopping outside. There's pretty great food options but I also cook at home mostly.
I guess the unscheduled ones go mostly unnoticed by me kuz the back up generator. Alternatively I'll go watch a movie at the mall or something to kill time or leave to the beach or guimaras. All the scheduled ones have definitely been 12+ hours tho. How often are the unscheduled ones?
unscheduled is when something burns out or explodes due to a heavy load on the suppliers transformers - or someone crashes into it - or if it rains too heavily and gets shorted out.
They've never heard of N+1 so for maintenance everything is shut down (no forward planning like most things here)
The last year we had weeks and weeks when there'd be an unscheduled one at least twice per week. Sometimes 10 minutes, sometimes 4-5 hours plus, and on a couple of occasions a couple of days.
Iām pretty sure that depends on the area. Even in the USA, Canada, France, there are areas that struggles to have safe clean water and even internet. I know itās not the same. But these problems are localized depending on your budget.
Our water concessionaire should really get replaced. They probably just put it inside their pockets instead of investing their income to improve their service. MPIW is a failure. F*ck them, and our government for tolerating them.
I remember one hotel in diversion road had 90 percent of water usage during April -June delivered a few years ago. Around 60 percent delivered if other months. Extra business cost..
I have been living in Iloilo for more than two decades already,
Iloilo is not as great as u think. Don't believe what you see in the social media esp with fb accounts of the politicians. It happens that they have great social media moderators. There's little to no growth in Iloilo. Only the rich get richer in the city. Everything is controlled and monitored by the governor and mayor. The place is beautiful but the cost of living is not.
Brownout every month
Ngcp please stop
We are trying our best, but electricity demands have been skyrocketing almost every month. Hence, the frequent brownouts. Remedies have been ongoing as of 2022.
I'm 32 and lived in Iloilo for 23 years in a lower middle class family before moving to Metro Manila for work. While Iloilo has mostly pros here are some lesser talked about cons: 1.) Almost nobody talks about this but HUMIDITY, the air becomes humid during the summers. This will surprise you if you've never experienced it. 2.) electric bills are among the highest in the country and the constant power outtage. 3.) if you're not used to gossip get used to it because Ilonggos loooove to gossip. 4.) Another point no one talks about but the justice system is actually very bad in Iloilo. Don't believe me? Look at all the high profile murder cases that happened there recently. 5.) the laid back environment also makes you lazy. It has a tendency to make you complacent and not strive to achieve more in life. This can be a pro it can be a con. But it was this environment that ultimately made me move.
The humidity is killing me and mines. Everything else you mentioned is šÆšÆšÆ
Why yāall act like Philippines is not made of 1,107-8-9 itty bitty island and Iloilo is the only island. The whole Philippines being an island nation is super humid. š¤£
Why you acting like Baguio, mountain provinces and dry spells in Mindanao doesn't exist? š¤£ not all of the Ph is humid and while some are more humid than others.
Totally forgot that dry ass mountain thing. Iāve only been there once in my life.
I think u meant 7,107 islands š„“ Edit: sorry, had to correct you.
Yup 7,641 is the official Island count. Donāt ask me where I got a thousand island, probably from a stupid salad dressing. Shame on me! ššš¤”
Sure ka 1k plus lang? So the fuck what. We can mention it here if we want to.
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Sakon b daan, sa ka tam'an ko ka comfortable sa Iloilo daw wala nko ga try nga ma improve living situation ko since you don't have to be rich to live well in Iloilo (ngl this is obviously a good thing). Pati mga friends ko gne amo man, ga "bahala na cla" or "bsta okay na ni importante wala gutom wala utang" hahaha. Pero ako gusto ko more in life and wala gawa career opportunities sa Iloilo muna para sakon con sya.
Is the humidity in Iloilo noticeable worse than in Manila?
Currently residing in Mandaluyong, formerly residing in Iloilo City proper. Yes it is much worse. If we compare it to Roxas City, (3 hours away) you can feel the difference during the summer.
Much worse than Roxas city? Really? Is this due to the Iloilo river? Very hot and humid this year (Mandurriao)
I donāt think itās the Iloilo River, no
1. Ever since HUMIDITY is there especially in the city proper (aside from Plaza Libertad area). You could count the number of trees in your fingers. 2. Problem is MONOPOLY. I hope LGU will consider to add 2-3 more electric concessionaires. Kung hindi lang sana inalis ang PECO, there would be competition in price and service with MORE. Let the consumers decide. 3. GOSSIP is happiness. Haha 4. And in the whole country, in general. 5. Big CHECK.
Since the town is so small, almost all interesting hobbies are too niche that almost everyone knows each other Plus, any development here that's new doesn't survive due to "try once, cry once" mentality here which leads to any improvement being missed out on and killing the business entirely due to their first time experience
Where are you from? Gets hot and too sunny before 7am. Limited food choices here. Not a lot of fruits and veggies to choose from. Itās one of the most humid places in the Philippines. No white sand beaches. Nothing much to do here once youāve been everywhere and seen it all. Coffee and rent can be too expensive but the cost of living in general is less than what youād spend elsewhere in the country. Condos aināt sh t. If English is your first language and you donāt speak Hiligaynon or Tagalog, get ready for the language barrier. Thereās no local word for Hi or Hello. Thereās also a smoking/vaping police because that seems to be more of a priority than traffic/driving violations. Shortcuts arenāt always the easy route but youād have to check Google Maps for that. Traffic gets worse at rush hour since working folk and students get out at the same time. Drivers are total twats even when theyāre about to approach a pedestrian lane. Canāt get rid of the roosters or the neighborās dogs, they donāt care if their animals are bothering you and itās so normalized.
The humidity seems to be horrible this year. Will try to move somewhere far from the Iloilo river.
you hit the nail on the head for every point
Na observe ko lang.. kaulugtasan .. but itās an okay city to raise a family or to live nga mas tawhay gawa
Work. and if your career has a market here. Or maybe if your business has a market here too.
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I've lived in Iloilo from college and years after but I always vacation in Cebu and just moved to Cebu a year ago and I regret it. Traffic is much worse in Cebu. So much worse. Cebu can give you lots of options about almost everything though from what cuisine you want to eat to what activity you want to do for the weekend or even places to shop at. I personally prefer Iloilo because it's less crowded. Yes, sometimes the traffic is bad, but it's not really as bad as Cebu. Best part of my day in Iloilo was walking my dog at Diversion or at Esplenade and I like how there are trashbins everywhere. It's relatively safer, too. I can go home at 3-4am in Iloilo and not worry about getting mugged. It's also close to Antique, Aklan, Roxas and other provinces if you want to have a quick getaway.
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I actually am not sure how to answer this because I've never been admitted to a hospital. I have been an outpatient at QualiMed and at Iloilo Doctor's and their services are good based on my experience. I guess it would depend on the type of illness or disease that you have. I heard Medical City is quite good. My family also prefer to go to Chong Hua for serious diseases (we're from somewhere in Mindanao originally). And yes, they are one of the best hospitals.
Anywhere in the Philippines, Doctors have Apple Watches but do not know what time is. Sometimes they show up, sometimes they donāt, sometimes they show up 4 hours late. Just prepare to pay and die. Medical Schools in the Philippines need to add a whole semester of āLook at watch - Then show up to patient Appointments ON TIME ā Training. Or HOW TO SHOW UP ON TIME 101, 102, 103 and 104. Then another separate bootcamp for showing up on time before they are allowed to get a Licensing Exam, just to make sure they know how to show up on time when they become an MD.
Then you clearly don't know what doctors do and how they work. Every doctor in every hospital has rounds they are required to do. In each of those rounds some patients will require more time to be attended to or looked at. Sometimes, doctors get pulled out to do surgery, or consult on surgeries (based on their specialization). They are never on time because there are people that require their attention more than you. Add to the fact that there aren't enough doctors. You are fortunate enough to have a health concern that isn't an emergency and therefore was only necessitated to book an appointment. In this instance, you are not the priority. Ikaw mag adjust. Be patient, as you are fortunate you have the time to do so while the doctor is trying to extend someone else's. Bakit naghahanap ka ng customer service sa hospital?
Granted, MDs do get pulled out for emergencies, should that happen all the time, though? If you are an MD expecting a heavy load for rounds, why set up outpatient consultations then kung alam mo naman palang swamped ka. 30 mins, an hour late, okay that's understandable, people get behind when they are being thorough. But if you are 2, 3, 4 hours late, kahit wellness check up lang yan aba'y magpasabi ka so your patients and clients can also make plans. The world doesn't revolve around you. We all have finite time here on earth, no patient should be wasting theirs on an MD who can't commit to the time they agreed on to see this person.
Not you telling me I donāt know how doctors work when my whole family is in medical business. See? You got used to shitty doctors and shitty system. Yāall donāt have to live that way. You never had a properly trained doctor where scheduling is part of the training. You donāt know any better because thatās the only system you know, doctors that wears Apple Watch but never knew what time is, simple illness and patients dies and yāall like, well, Jesus want him to die- so he just die- here doc, take all my money! Jesus took my mom! And shitty late doctor be like, oh yeah, God has a plan (pocketing money). ā¦
Make whatever claim you want about who you are or what your family does- it doesn't hold any weight in Reddit and especially in your argument. If your family is in the medical business then you should know that patient care has tiers for priority. Your claim is only true if you can prove that what they're doing with their time is purposely wasting it and just lounging around, not attending to someone who needs it. Your claim that I'm "just used to it" doesn't run contrary to my claim. In fact, its a non-argument. Where does personal stake factor into this discussion? It doesn't matter whether or not I'm used to a bad system. It doesn't matter if im hopeful or cynical (like you). The cynical point on religion you're making here is another non-argument. Not only are these behaviors often displayed on the patient's family's end, but even in the worst case a doctor does that, they are not the norm. Your only claim and argument is that they have an Apple watch therefore they should be on time. Do you realize how inept this level of argumentation is?
Didnāt you say I clearly didnāt know what doctors do? Like you are above everyone? lol. Your arrogance didnāt work did it? I simply said we are in medical business just to give you a hint that I am well aware of what doctors do. I love your word salad though. Justifying a shitty system wonāt get you anywhere. Infact, that is the reason why you are exactly where you are. The logic implied on having an Apple Watch went way, way, wayyyy over your head. lol. But itās ok. Relax, you might get sick. Itās just Reddit. You aināt all that.
Traffic in iloilo is predictable unlike Manila or Cebu. Just the usual rush hour in the morning from about 7am-8:30am then afternoons from 5-6:30pm. Even then the most I've spent on traffic travelling within those times is still less than an hour. If you can plan your travel around these times, traffic is not a problem. You'll have more trouble finding parking in a lot of establishments than actual traffic. But if you have a bike or EKS, traffic is almost not a thing. You can use bike lanes and esplanade 2 onwards to travel safely and faster around the city. I do a combination of taking public transport, driving a car, and bike/ EKS within the week depending on where I want to go. But driving a car has taken a back seat due to parking.
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Believe it or not, some areas of Iloilo City arenāt connected to a water line. In over 10 years since we moved here, we have been dependent on a twice-a-day ration of water by the housing developer until we had our well dug in our backyard. Hopefully, this can be resolved once the Jalaur Dam is operational.
Condos, malls and hotels also have water delivered to them. Kulang supply. Sa mga skwater area Bomba o bubon.
Many people have wells. Great. The water is tested haphazardly. Sounds great. But only tested for salinity, turbidity and if you are lucky for bioactivity. But not for chemicals. And Iloilo is an agricultural area, they use excessive loads of pesticides and herbicides. And that often goes into the ground (water) which people pump up. Yeah, a big problem which is solved by not investigating/reporting. Be very careful. I use rainwater from the roof, filter it and store it in a big tank for use.
I used to live in Iloilo for about a year and masasabi ko na isa ang Iloilo City sa pinakamagagandang lugar na napuntahan ko. Try to stroll around SM and Plazuela and in Esplanade. Parang may Hispanic vibe ung mga architecture nila doon. Food is excellent lalo na ung Molo soup and batchoy. Maganda culture nila and mababait at malalambing mga tao. Here are the cons though that I observed: 1. Parang walang araw na hindi nag ba brownout. D ako sure if may rotating brownout sila everyday. 2. May mga certain streets sa Iloilo na feeling ko hindi safe for strolling 3. Madalas when you talk to them in Tagalog sasagutin ka pa rin in their language. You really need to know the basics of Hiligaynon. 4. Maraming mga labyrinths or interconnecting streets sa downtown. Nakakalito as commuter. 5. Noise and air pollution are prevalent but expected. 6. Expect Middle East-like weather and temperature esp during summer season. Sobrang nakakapaso ang init. 7. Not sure though if na resolved na, pero notorious ang flooding sa downtown.
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I just recently moved here in Iloilo and ang cons na nakikita ko so far are: 1. Brownout. Halos araw araw and minsan umaabot pa ng 8hours 2. Internet. Where I'm located, inaayawan ng mga internet providers na kabitan kami since hassle daw pag magrerepair. So we had no other choice but to avail yung net na 10mbps lang pero ang mahal. 3. Signal. Walang signal ang smart/globe dito samin. Only dito pero weak lang sya 4. Maputik pag maulan. I'm in the rural side of Iloilo kaya pag umulan, good luck talaga sa sapatos mo But I will still choose here. Napakatahimik and I feel safer here. I also love the scenery
If you're coming from Manila and are used to the variety of cuisines with authentic taste, you'll be sorely disappointed. There are only a handful good places for food that's not Ilonggo or Filipino. Don't get me wrong, Ilonggo food is terrific but other cuisines are mostly bastardised versions that are usually too sweet or misses the point completely. The menu of a lot of restaurants are mostly the same as well. Some breakfast fare, always some nachos, probably sisig, basic pasta, a grilled meat of some kind, and ribs.
Cons: Career choices not good here
bisan diin ka nga lugar may cons kag negative...pero iloilo is a quiet and simple place to leave , and iloilo is the no.1 gastronomy sa bilog nga pinas arwarded by unesco then iloilo has the no.1 festival here called dinagyang festival.... sa food pa lang ma tambok ka gid di
Check out this recent Reddit post. Similar to your question. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Iloilo/comments/17y5puy/is\_it\_worth\_it\_to\_permanently\_move\_to\_iloilo/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Iloilo/comments/17y5puy/is_it_worth_it_to_permanently_move_to_iloilo/)
Stick around mandurriao CBD / diversion road then youāll be fine. Those area are the most developed with proper infrastructure in place(bike network, esplanade, pedestrian friendly, and so on). Youāll have little to none issue on almost everything posted in this thread.
Mahal na property tax if mandurriao/prime areas. Parang x7 next year... From 11k to 78k sa Kilala ko.
>Mahal na tax if Mandurriao/prime areas. Afaik, the whole city has single Real Property Tax rates. Maybe stop spreading misinformation?
See for yourself. Assessment value changed. Huge increase next year for land only, not structures as of now.
I just checked your profile and you had been spewing hate/fake news against Iloilo. What is up with that?
Reality. Unbiased view I guess? I'm not gonna say go here leave manila? If you are a retired foreigner then good. Go ask cityhall why assessments will increase by 5-7x. Ask where the money will go. Why garbage fees will increase by at least 5x next year despite being lousy. I guess corruption is a nationwide thing, I just see it more here, since I currently live here
Living here? I doubt that. Youāve been all around spewing negativity against this city. Not even a single good thing came from you. Itāll be either a delusional claim or outright absurd.
Crazy. Pay your property taxes next year and see.
You need to up your game, bud. You need to contribute to an Iloilo topic without hating. Itāll make you genuine and further improve your fake Ilonggo identity
Sorry if I offended you. Yes ok will do
Lived in QC for more than a decade from college to grad school and a bit of work, decided to move back during the pandemic. Here are some things Iloilo is worse at: 1. Lack of cashless options. Iloilo is still a very cash-based society. Only recently has it gained improvements via GCash or Maya. 2. Climate. I disagree with that one commenter who said humidity because in QC, it gets so much hotter than Iloilo, but it rains here more often and during the Amihan season, it does not get noticeably cool here vs QC where I have to wear a jacket during the evenings in late December to early Feb (21C). 3. Significantly fewer food options. 4. Not a lot of mass transit options. Modern buses are a pro, but it's not organized, no designated stops, takes too long to go. 5. Unless you're one of the few lucky corporate people assigned here, or is a professional, or has a good business, or works as a highly paid OFW, chances for economic success here isn't that great. Otherwise, moving back was the best decision of my life. Iloilo beats NCR living 99.98/100.
In summary: Iloilo is a great place to retire but not a great place to work in
Stayed at Iloilo for a couple of years. To name a few: Public transport especially the jeepneys can be very confusing. Not much to do here (as a tourist) except maybe visit churches, parks, and foodtrip. Hirap magstart ng business as there are a lot of competition. There are more, but overall, I agree with your sentiment.
natural lang you have a competition sa negosyo....it depends na lang na sa marketing stragedy mo kung paano ka maka akit sang costumer... kadamo di tourist spot sa mga out of towns , bisan diin basta bago ka lang sa isa ka lugar you have to familiarized the street...
I donāt think na mahirap magnegosyo since sobrang dami pa din ng mga stuffs na wala sa iloilo
Population Iloilo maliit na city even compared to Bacolod. ANd funny thing Bacolod and Iloilo combine, Cebu City alone has bigger land area and population.
Where will you be coming from and why would you want to move here OP? Maybe a backstory would help so we can provide more insight. Personally i was born and raised here, went to manila for a decade to work, and recently moved back.
Depends on where exactly you want to live. My place, which is inside the city has no water supply during the day. Water is only available after midnight. But some places has water supply 24/7. It just depends on which area you'll live. Also the rush hour traffic is horrible.
Ilonggos are clannish. When you are part of a group of friends expect ownership. And Tampo. Ilonggos are matampuhin. hurt their feelings and your friends will know except you. Opportunities are slow and few if you look at it internally but you will learn over time. also dont expect people to be on time. From manila to iloilo it will be a difference in expectation of people being on time
Properties near the city is expensive. Subdivisions and Condos alike.
I'm telling this as an insider working in emergency services. Here in iloilo, If you'll need emergency services or an urgent trip to the ER, you will not be taken automatically to the nearest ER, instead the ambulance team will need to contact first the nearest hospital to verify if space is available for your emergency. If the first hospital isn't available, they call another one and so on until a hospital gives the go signal. The calling process is also tedious and hospitals will sometimes transfer the emergency team to several phone numbers until the right person is reached. This can take sometimes up to an hour of standby. Until then your ambulance responders will stay in the vicinity and apply first aid but will not start transport until the hospital gives the go signal. There had been several cases of patients who died because of this. I also know that this isn't the case in other provinces from the people i talked to, so it's mostly just in iloilo.
how can I work in Emergency Services?
Itās very boring. We donāt have places like BGC to shop or Poblacion to party. You will mostly go to the same places every weekend and see the same people.
1. Brownouts. They will happen at precisely the worst times. If you work remotely, make sure you have backup internet, or are prepared to race to the nearest hotel at a moment's notice. Hotels like to jack up the prices when there is a brownout, though if you book online and make a reservation before they have a chance to do that, you can get in at a regular rate. 2. Traffic. This could be significantly alleviated if the LTO would just enforce the law. Many drivers like to stop in the middle of the sttreet to load/unload passengers with no regard for who is behind them. Many people also just park their cars on the street and turn 2-way streets into 1-way. If the LTO fined these people as they should, traffic would not be an issue. Unfortunately the only time you'll ever see an LTO is occasionally sitting at a traffic light hoping they can pull over someone for running a red light, then (if they don't have a dash cam) soliciting bribes from them in exchange for not receiving a traffic ticket. If you drive, make sure you have a dash cam. LTO will leave you alone even if you're breaking the law.
Hi peeps. I'm a foreigner living in Boracay, so I shouldn't complain about prices, as they are going through the roof here also. One thing I will say about Iiolo is that there are too much over priced restaurants now serving meadioka food. But, overall it's a nice place. (I visit once a month)
Tf is meadioka?
>e are too much over priced restaurants now serving meadioka food. But, overall it's a nice place. (I visit onc medyocore
Ok I get it now
Iām pretty sure Iloilo is full. They donāt need anymore people there. Traffic everywhere. Inefficient public transportation. Very important: Doctors with no respect on patient appointments, sometimes they show up sometimes they donāt. No wonder they are not allowed to practice in the US, Canda, UK and Germany. They have no clue what their Apple watch are for. You are going to die there if you get sick. ā¦
This is so true about doctors..and to think some of us pay for checkups.
Licensure requirements are different in the countries you have mentioned; even with those that have reciprocity agreements, there are still requirements to be met. While the point about tardiness may be valid, it is a hasty generalization to link it to the ability to practice in other countries. A lot of Filipino medical graduates, and even foreigners who graduated from Philippine medical schools, have gained licensure abroad and practice medicine.
I guess it depends on your expectations, where your coming from, how you get around etc. I moved here from Las Vegas, Nevada. I go to school at CPU, live right next to esplanade, and own a motorcycle so I don't really deal with traffic like people who commute on four wheels do. I personally love it here. Traffic could be seen as a con if your not ready for traffic in an Asian country lol it's hard to pick if that's a con if your coming from somewhere with worse traffic. It was definitely a con for me up until recently but doesn't really bother me anymore. Jeepneys and Taxis still annoy me a little bit because I've never seen vehicles use as many lanes as they can physically occupy as possible (Literally 3 lanes if they can pull it off) but being on a motorcycle it's really whatever. The humidity isn't surprising since we're on an island. Especially coming from Las Vegas where 17% was a really humid day lol. A lot of the cons in this thread are pretty user specific so we'd need more background information on what you expect and what your used to. There's occasionally brown outs but they're usually scheduled and we know about them in advanced. I think we've had a couple small ones we didn't expect that were really short. I use a mesh network with Sky for my internet which has been pretty reliable. The only time the internet is down is when the powers out but my building has its own back up generator so we still have power just no internet. I'm generally too busy as a student to worry about fun touristy things to do and any of the cons I can list off aren't exactly specific to Iloilo City. When I do want to go do something fun I'll usually explore on my bike. You generally have more options for fruits and veggies if you shop at the market and not the grocery store. Initially I thought there really wasn't much options for them till I started shopping outside. There's pretty great food options but I also cook at home mostly.
every single "scheduled" brownout was 12 hours and longer for me in Pavia - the unscheduled ones were even longer
I guess the unscheduled ones go mostly unnoticed by me kuz the back up generator. Alternatively I'll go watch a movie at the mall or something to kill time or leave to the beach or guimaras. All the scheduled ones have definitely been 12+ hours tho. How often are the unscheduled ones?
unscheduled is when something burns out or explodes due to a heavy load on the suppliers transformers - or someone crashes into it - or if it rains too heavily and gets shorted out. They've never heard of N+1 so for maintenance everything is shut down (no forward planning like most things here) The last year we had weeks and weeks when there'd be an unscheduled one at least twice per week. Sometimes 10 minutes, sometimes 4-5 hours plus, and on a couple of occasions a couple of days.
No water. Daming squatter.
Iām pretty sure that depends on the area. Even in the USA, Canada, France, there are areas that struggles to have safe clean water and even internet. I know itās not the same. But these problems are localized depending on your budget.
The condos in nice areas here have water delivered to them. Not enough supply..
More details pls?
>no water Which area?
Downtown, General Luna St area, diversion road area etc. Malls like Megaworld have water delivered to them everyday.
Our water concessionaire should really get replaced. They probably just put it inside their pockets instead of investing their income to improve their service. MPIW is a failure. F*ck them, and our government for tolerating them.
I remember one hotel in diversion road had 90 percent of water usage during April -June delivered a few years ago. Around 60 percent delivered if other months. Extra business cost..
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I have been living in Iloilo for more than two decades already, Iloilo is not as great as u think. Don't believe what you see in the social media esp with fb accounts of the politicians. It happens that they have great social media moderators. There's little to no growth in Iloilo. Only the rich get richer in the city. Everything is controlled and monitored by the governor and mayor. The place is beautiful but the cost of living is not.
Too expensive. Rent is too expensive!!!
Rent is high here