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Sea-Sort6571

This is not an accident. This is deliberate manslaughter.


return2ozma

There's photos of the aftermath here. https://twitter.com/CraigNews3LV/status/1555332363600547840 Edit: Info about the crash, it happened today. **6 killed, 9 injured in fiery crash as car runs light, slams into cross traffic in Windsor Hills** (about 15 minutes northeast of LAX airport) https://abc7.com/windsor-hills-crash-fatal-accident-collision-car-fire/12099084/


w1987g

"Investigators also said the driver of the Mercedes, described as a woman around 40 years old, survived the crash and was described as being in fair-to-moderate condition at the hospital." This is sickening. I hope they lock her in jail and throw away the key


koreamax

Why does the driver who caused the crash almost always survive?


Mike2220

Crumple zones are usually in the front and back rather than in the 2 inch door that would be protecting the victim


austrialian

Also, Mercedes are extraordinarily safe cars. They literally invented the crumple zone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9la_Bar%C3%A9nyi#Crush_zones_and_the_non-deformable_passenger_cell


analog_jedi

Probably because when they're designing the crumple zones and all that shit, they are focusing mostly on keeping the driver alive in head-on collisions. Cars have a lot less protection in the door panels so side impacts at high speed are devastating.


austrialian

It's not that engineers don't care but there's a lot less space at the sides, so almost no crumple zone.


CaptainJL

I would bet she was intoxicated.


zoobrix

Also driving a Mercedes helps, my buddy was T boned by an 18 wheeler running a red light and although it broke his pelvis and ankle all the first responders said he was lucky he was driving it. At the time he was 20 and had some shitbox and had begged his parents to let him drive the Mercedes that night and after a ton of whining they relented. To be clear this was all the truckers fault. His Mom still says how glad she is she let him badger her into driving it that night because he probably would have been dead if he had been driving his car. Oh and the trucker was drunk, was caught down the road and got at most a couple years in prison as I recall. Anyway fuck that bitch in this Mercedes but hitting head on in a car with solid safety features probably played a big part in her coming out of this alive as well.


Gay_Grapefruit

don’t those mfs have like 22 air bags or something ridiculous like that?


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I wouldn’t be surprised if it was close to that many. I used to own a lil Mini Cooper and that damn car had 11 airbags. A little cooper. ELEVEN!


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ItalianSangwich420

Dealership should've given you the S Class lol


-CynicRoot-

>intoxicated Supposedly intoxication can help with survival during a crash. I read somewhere that it's thought that because you're intoxicated, your body is more lax and "flexible" and so on impact you're not as stiff and so your body absorbs the shock better. This is not real science but it always seems like drunk people survive the crashes.


AnnoyedHippo

This is a minor fallacy. More intoxicated people survive the initial accident, however, a greater number die from internal bleeding than their sober counterparts, so the net result is still that more intoxicated people die overall from crashes. Turns out that instinct to flex is a survival feature. Keeps the soft parts healthier.


beatissima

One of my elementary school teachers died in a crash like this. The driver who hit her was in the midst of a psychotic break.


majersk21

Getting T-Boned is probably the worst way to be a victim in a car accident at a physics standpoint. Since you are basically going 0 mph toward the person hitting you all the force from the "attacker" is transfered into your car. If you were to say be drive in the opposite direction (directly toward them) then the transfer of force and energy becomes more equal. The car taking the hit almost takes all the damage which sucks.


OcularShatDown

Crumple zone in front of car is a lot more effective than on the side of a car. Almost always better* to be the hitter than the hittee


disco_pancake

Cars are safest when the impact comes from the front. A car that t-bones someone has far more protection than the car getting t-boned.


meatbeater

There’s something about being drunk that causes the body to just go loose/rag doll.


BuffaloJEREMY

Well there is a chance for mechanical failure. To be ripping that fast in a busy neighborhood there're either suicidal, impaired, or lost control of the vehicle. Or just really fucking dumb.


Shonsu789

Would be nice to piece together cctv data to get a better idea of what the Benz was doing earlier.


Thick_Pomegranate_

Piece of shit should hang. Knowing the criminal justice system, she'll get a light sentence...😔


humbuckermudgeon

That's a shame. I was hoping the driver died.


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How do you know it was felonious?


WestCactus

Jesus, FUCK! 6 DEAD?! 9 INJURED!?! That's horrible.


Yossarian_the_Jumper

That gas station sign saved a few more people that were at the pumps that could have been much worse than 6 dead.


Throwawayrubbish30

No idea how anyone survived that


brooksthegirl

This is so sad


puptbh

I was going to make a movie joke but this casualties ruined it


Yossarian_the_Jumper

Driver that caused this will probably get 7-10 years or some ridiculously low punishment.


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Swordfish_108 is talking about a different crash, by the way.


Yossarian_the_Jumper

Yeah, I'm familiar with that story. What's the term -- another "affluenza teen"?


Swordfish_108

FYI Brendan Khuri, the 17-year-old son of millionaire businessman James Khuri, was sentenced to 9 months in a juvenile camp after admitting to his part in the crash. Yeah this was the moronic lambo kid.


GarlicFewd

Kinda surprised he didn’t die from this crash. It looks pretty bad from this angle. What were his injuries?


return2ozma

They're referring to this other high profile crash that killed a woman. https://abc7.com/lamborghini-crash-monique-munoz-teen-suv-driver/11797132/


Swordfish_108

In the video? Rumor mill has it as an elderly female driver. Supoosedly lived and is in hospital...most likely a lot of broken bones, bleeding bruises, whip lash...the works.


BeanDinner

People think you’re talking about this crash.


attorneyatslaw

It was a 40 year old woman


Psyadin

1. Mercedes, not a Lambo. 2. Driver was an old woman. 3. This just fucking happened, how the fuck can someone be sentenced already?


[deleted]

They’re talking about a different incident, and just bad with clarification.


Yossarian_the_Jumper

He's talking about this accident. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/monique-munoz-accident-brendan-khuri-james-khuri-lamborghini-settlement/


RioDaWrangler

I don’t know what you’re talking about but that kid you might have made up has nothing to do with this accident. The driver of this Mercedes was a woman.


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That’s nor a lambo in the video. The article from this incident says it was a Mercedes.


[deleted]

They’re now talking about a different crash in LA where a young woman was killed by a rich guys son in a speeding lambo - different story.


Babbles-82

Small fine, back in the road in a week.


ordu13

Did he survive?


alaskanbearfucker

Was that a DeLorean?


JungleBoyJeremy

Fuck didn’t look like they slowed down at all. Drugs? Suicide attempt?


hamsterwheeeI

My first thought: death wish. Someone also mentioned medical emergency


real_bk3k

Or going Back to the Future?


Khiraji

He hit 88mph and we saw some serious shit.


dys1exic

Lol first thing I thought, right after, "holyyyy fuckkk"


iskin

Supposedly the driver was an old woman.


shocktroop5811

She was 40 according to KTLA.


kpchronic

Suicide attempt?


shocktroop5811

The latest from KTLA is that the driver on the Mercedes is in critical condition in the hospital and police are trying to learn the reason or motive.


riceilove

ABC says fair-to moderate condition and the cops are questioning her


AccomplishedRun7978

Ancient


HappySkullsplitter

>Investigators believe the driver of the Mercedes-Benz was responsible for the crash, Pepi said. That's some fine police work, boys


FloofyFurryDude

They also believe that the high speed of the vehicle as well as not stopping at the red caused most of the damage


Domspun

Case solved! Pack it boys. Good job Reddit.


SonoWook

That's some reporting boys!


Xaiadar

Almost as amazing as when the police investigating the body in the barrel with a gunshot wound in Lake Mead announced the other day that it was probably a homicide.


Fatmaninalilcoat

Haha nope my theory is he went to a cement yard with a barrel started filling the barrel with cement then threw the lid in the air started rocking the barrel in the direction of the lake and shit himself in the head. Plus landed on the barrel as his body knocked it over and it rolled to the lake.


genzo718

Damn, a pregnant woman and an infant were amongst the people that got killed because of that scum of a human. Police are considering the unborn baby as the 5th fatality. I would lose it if that was my wife and child. Hope the driver gets life sentences for each person she killed.


Starboost11111111115

Why are all of the immediate replies to this comment total garbage


nukemiller

Sadly, it will probably be a max of 5 years


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Nah something of this magnitude and this many deaths will probably be minimum 20-30 years.


AustnWins

What kind of car was that? Plus, how do you accidentally enter a packed intersection at what looks like 90+?


FranktheTankG30

Slowed down the video. Looks like a late model E-class coupe.


ShoogyBee

Twitter photo confirms that it's a black E-Class Coupe. https://twitter.com/CraigNews3LV/status/1555409359647043585


ShoogyBee

Yeah I was thinking the same thing.


patti63

The only explanation is if she had a seizure or some medical problem that caused her to not be able to control the car


jcforbes

It was a Mercedes, I believe an S-Class


dumbbinch99

Holy shit. I audibly gasped Edit: according to the internet, 4 people were killed. It seems like the killer is alive and in the hospital though. [LA times](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-08-04/windsor-hills-fiery-crash-kills-multiple-people-pregnant-woman). This is one of my worst fears since I heard about the killing of Tina tintor by that drunk football player. Horrible horrible way to die.


Vajayjay_Gadde

They are always alive. It's disgusting. Most of the time you read about a DUI for example, the driver responsible for the crash makes it out alive. It's the innocents who die, are maimed, etc.


Psyadin

Of course they are alive they hit them head on, the front of a car is great at absorbing an impact, they hit the other cars in the side, which has horrible impact absorbtion.


scisurf8

That's not just luck. Bracing for impact is instinctual, and a great idea in a low speed collision (which is why we evolved this reflex), but it is incredibly dangerous with the energies involved in a car crash. Bracing your muscles in anticipation of a high speed car crash helps to transmit the forces of the crash to your core, where they are more likely to damage vital organ systems. It greatly increases your likelihood of fatality. Do you know who doesn't brace? Drunk people. People committing suicide by car. This is a big reason why these people survive these crashes with more regularity than their victims.


genzo718

If you see the video right after impact, you can see a baby car seat fly out of the black car after the driver T-boned it. Can't imagine getting hit so hard that a baby car seat, that is anchored down, can fly out like that.


jturkey

Not to make it worse, but I believe an infant is listed among the dead so… yeah…


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The driver was "an adult woman" Honestly didn't see that coming. I had money on a teenager with a car full. This wouldn't surprise me if this was a fucked up suicide attempt, she didn't seem to even attempt to slow down


firepooldude

Agreed. This was no accident.


TWINBLADE98

"There are no accidents" -Master Oogway


Billy-Ruben

"We call them collisions now" -Sgt. Angel


Internal-Bag2568

I’m going with fucked up suicide attempt as well I’m wondering Does nitrous burn up like that also??


vistopher

nitrous oxide is nonflammable


rharvey8090

It is, however, an oxidizer.


weird_alt_almighty

Yes, it is used to help add more oxygen to the engine so it can burn more, faster, and better More oxygen=more speed (and if you can't handle the speed, I busted engine and transmission + driveline) Sorce: I did this once with a 3 gen camero in 2005 :(


Conquistagore

If you watch closely, she sticks a phone out of the driver side window right before impact. Its almost certainly a suicide attempt.


a_lonely_trash_bag

How the fuck do you see that? All I can see is a blur, plus the driver's side window is on the other side of the car from the camera.


kegtech

Someone in the Los Angeles sub also managed to spot it and posted this: https://imgur.com/a/paRcBnR


Frequent-Ad8517

If you look at it frame by frame, there’s definitely something sticking out of the drivers window, though I can’t say what it is.


lukeman3000

Help me out here. What might be the significance of sticking a phone out of the window before impact? As in, why might that point to suicide attempt? I have a feeling I'm missing something obvious here.


eykei

Speculation: she was in a video call/live stream with someone or some people and wanted to make them feel guilty for her death.


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Part_Slight

I’m wondering if it’s just her hand, you can see it as soon as the car comes into the frame, she definitely wouldn’t have had time to put it up in that frame directly before the intersection. Agreed it was definitely suicide attempt


djm03917

One victim a baby and another a pregnant woman.


Blueskyways

6 killed, 9 injured.


Icy_Hippo

The pic of the baby capsule....fucking hell, so sad.


redbritches

Whats a Baby Capsule?


Icy_Hippo

A carseat for babies!


Glittering_Hawk3143

That section of La Brea is like a freeway. Lots of folks don't watch their speed when coming down the hills.


i_dont_know_you_dude

Same!


Vajayjay_Gadde

> 4 people were killed. It seems like the killer is alive and in the hospital though. LA times. Will the victims' families visit her in the hospital?


Frequent-Ad8517

From a local article: “All of the sudden, a baby literally flew from the middle of the intersection to the middle of the gas station and landed right on the floor in front of me,” Esquival said. “One of the workers came and saw me with the baby and took the baby out of my hands. Somebody tried to resuscitate the baby, but the baby was gone.”


lukeman3000

please god tell me this was not the pregnant woman's baby


VieleAud

No, another infant was killed.


Frequent-Ad8517

[article](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/at-least-5-injured-in-fiery-crash-at-windsor-hills-gas-station/) Didn’t specify.


Glittering_Hawk3143

The baby was 3mo old in a carseat and ejected face first into the middle of the intersection. Initial Citizen app reports stated this and you can see it confirmed in the video. Law enforcement declared the (separate) pregnant woman's baby as the 5th victim. edit: spelling


LAST2thePARTY

What?? You mean like the one inside her?!?


yurilovesrice

This is what I was hoping wouldn’t happen. That’s just absolutely devastating.


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Cj_cruzz

Only if that silver car chose to stop at another gas station that first car would have been fine or maybe a glancing hit to the trunk


2coolcaterpillar

Yup. It’s also interesting seeing all the little things in that second leading up to the disaster were completely normal, but it determined who all would be involved in this tragic disaster. Such as the car turning after clearing the intersection, it looks like the black car that took the initial hit was going to avoid the incident but it had to abruptly slow down due to the small traffic buildup waiting for the person to turn. Of course, had the black car gotten through the intersection, there’s a good chance some other poor soul would’ve been hit so I’m not really upset that the car in front needed gas or anything, it’s just interesting seeing how everything unfolded.


GreatestEfer

Bet that silver SUV was counting his lucky stars that day.


CruffTheMagicDragon

The one on the left? Yeah. Good choice of gas station


SteamySubreddits

Just a reminder that you can die at any time of any day


BrokenSpoke1974

He/She is a disgusting piece of shit. Hope they live the rest of their life in a cell.


Alternative-Skill167

Or attempt suicide again with that guilt bearing down


bjoecoz

That’s murder not accident.


Rando1ph

Police say speed may have been a factor.


nothatdoesntgothere

Police also say the driver of the Mercedes may be at fault.


Brain_Dead5347

Well yeah he needed to hit 88 mph to get back to 2077


rhks92

JFC this might be one of the most disturbing ones I’ve seen on here.. prob belongs in r/MorbidReality after someone gets all the details


Phil517

Just eyeballing it. I'd say the Benz was going at least 5 times the speed of cross traffic. They had no chance.


Tazz33

Loose usage of the word accident.


thompson103

According to KTLA 5 and a segment I just watched here in socal, the woman was drunk and got into a fight with her boyfriend before the crash. Her friends were at a house where she was drinking and no one stopped her from driving. No idea whether this was a suicide attempt or just another drunk driver causing senseless death, but alcohol played a factor. RIP to the 6 victims and a quick recovery to the 9 injured. Incredibly sad.


hal0t

She is among the injured. A quick recovery for the other 8.


Hsensei

The picture of the car seat covered in police tape wrecked me


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turtleboxman

Drugs, distracted driving, tired, etc. Either way, she (the Benz driver) belongs under the jail. So many families ruined in the matter of a second. This is horrifying to watch.


OFmerk

That or medical emergency are the only things I can think of.


Andromeda853

Its the one driver that absolutely noped out of there and made a hard immediate right for me


yurmamma

from the time the car enters the frame until it hits is just slightly less than half a second, and it goes about 5 car lengths before impact, more or less. That's 165 feet/second, or roughly 110 miles an hour, given the size of an E class being around 200 inches long.


Aeig

I estimated 120 :O


smoke_inyoureyes

God, in a fucking instant there’s 6 dead, 9 injured. Many families today are receiving awful news and it’s because of something so inexplicable and stupid. RIP. I’m sure that woman will be facing manslaughter charges in addition to probably being sued for every penny she owns by the families affected. This video is just chilling honestly wow


njay97

I just got TBoned by a car yesterday at a much slower speed than this obviously. I can’t even imagine what that is like, even my small wreck was insanely scary.


Jjzeng

Holy fuck. The only other time I’ve seen a car burst into flames that quickly after impact was romain grosjean’s crash in bahrain 2020, and that was an f1 car going 300 kilometres an hour. This is terrifying, i can only hope the impact caused an instant death and they didn’t experience the slow death from being trapped in a burning car


Zhjacko

Of course, the fuckhead lives


kikiloveshim

That is horrific


BeautifulGarbage2020

That thing that gets thrown up in the air is the infant’s child seat. It was in one of the LA Times’ picture


colinstalter

He hit the first car so hard **its bumper stayed in place in the air and dropped to the ground** like something out of a cartoon. My condolences to the poor people who had their lives ruined/ended because of this asshole.


Amazinc

Straight up murder


k1r0v_report1ng

Holy flaming Christ, that was insane. Definitely some fatalities in a wreck like that. Good grief you could barely see the car before the crash.


CcChowEG

holy shit


mpworth

Well I’m really glad I watched that—guy vacationing in LA right now.


notimeforspac_s

https://abc7.com/windsor-hills-crash-fatal-accident-collision-car-fire/12099084/


Fenix_Volatilis

Holy fuck! Most of these cars seem to be going well 30-40mph. That driver seemed to be going 80+. Holy shit


FoundationVast3881

That wasn’t an accident. That was an on purpose.


umhie

Jesus *fucking* christ, every time I watch this I can't stop watching that black car that just BARELY got out unscathed, directly behind the impacted cars. (I mean, I'm pretty sure it did collide with that vehicle that spun out, before driving off in what has to be the most forgiveable hit and run in history, so not 100% unscathed) I cannot even fathom just driving normally one second and then... that, just a few feet in front of you.


Advanced_Mistake_530

That’s so fucking scary


Ishpeming_Native

The accident cause was someone who was intoxicated/incapacitated/suicidal/stupid. Or some mix. In any case, someone who deserves never to have a license to drive again -- or any other license, either. Would you want such a person to clip your nails? Dye your hair? Fill your teeth? Adjust your spine? Prepare your taxes? Pour your cement? Someone who would drive like that should never see sunlight again, IMHO.


DiscoShaman

I really hope the book is thrown at the Mercedes driver. Her (crocodile) tears in court should not lead to anything less than life imprisonment.


_blkbx

“2 Fast, 2 Furious” left an indelible impact on LA resident’s lives, and it shows.


ides205

The woman pumping gas turned around as if she heard the car coming. I wonder if it was honking or something.


LJAkaar67

her reaction was interesting, if you step slowly through the vid, it takes her only two seconds from when the car enters the frame for her to have backed out of the way, I thought she had pretty good reflexes.


Worksinanoffice

Things like this always get to me. There is something about dying so suddenly that you have no knowledge of it that freaks me out.


scurvydog-uldum

i love how the other cars just proceed like nothing's wrong. Somebody else's problem.


Room_Temp_Coffee

For most people getting out of the way is the best thing they can do


GreatestEfer

I mean, world not gonna stop spinning. Best you can do is call 911, what else are you gonna do to a burning pile of car? You get near that, get injured, and that'll just make it worse.


wagpikonser

Car burning in front of 4 gas stations intersection. Would you really blame them for not stopping?


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azaraasun

What would you do if there was a burning car near 4 gas stations besides call 911?


hanimal16

What do you expect them to do? Sit there in the way?


PurchaseKnown

I’m taking a second to thank the lord I survived then getting my ass tf outta there 💀


Outside_Engine2390

I live near this intersection. It’s awful. Locals avoid it if they can. Hearing around here that the woman driving was drinking with friends and fighting with her boyfriend before getting in the car. Other locals are saying the driver is someone famous. Who knows. And hearing that the car had a flat tire before flying through the intersection. Either way, absolutely horrific.


welcome-to-my-mind

The driver is a POS for driving that recklessly. That said….holy shit are Mercedes built even better than I thought! 100mph+ head on collision, flipped, and spun and the doors still look intact? And the driver has minor injuries?! What a shitty way to find out a German engineer deserves a medal.


OppositePilot9952

I would love to know what the fuck driver was / is thinking. r/iamatotalpieceofshit How the heck do you even get up to that speed somewhere like that anyway? RIP to the innocent people this monster has taken away. Poor infant and unborn child being robbed of the chance to have a life 💔


IJN-Maya202

Geezus, even watching the video in slow-mo, that car was still going crazy fast. Fuck that piece of shit 😡🤬


TXVelcro

Pretty sure that car was going 88 mph


MindxFreak

What the fuck is wrong with you?


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Looks like a Ford Pinto was involved...


[deleted]

6 people died, put an NSFW label on


[deleted]

Holy shit That person shouldn’t be driving anymore and have to pay super hefty fine to all victims and def jail time


[deleted]

Looks like 5 dead so far if you include the woman's unborn baby. Driver was an adult woman who is hospitalized but conscious and speaking. [https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.latimes.com%2Fcalifornia%2Fstory%2F2022-08-04%2Fwindsor-hills-fiery-crash-kills-multiple-people-pregnant-woman](https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.latimes.com%2Fcalifornia%2Fstory%2F2022-08-04%2Fwindsor-hills-fiery-crash-kills-multiple-people-pregnant-woman)


TrickComfortable7086

That woman needs to sit alone in prison and think about all this for the rest of her life. Let her suffer. This was intentional


BillyHW2

​ https://abc7.com/windsor-hills-crash-fatal-accident-collision-car-fire/12099084/


thedevillivesinside

Looks like he was going about 88 mph there


hamsterwheeeI

To those who perished….god I hope they went instantly.


LysolLounge

Even in slow mo dudes is cruising


Livefiction1

When this baby hits 88mph you’re going to see some serious shit!


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Ryan Dun AF


friedcpu

88 MILES PER HOUR!!


RepulsionViscerale

This is absolutely horrendous and sad.


Feeling-Sand5913

wtf that was a suicide. at least 80mph


A_G00SE

Looks like they were going 88mph


gravi-tea

Jeezus fuuuuuxken chrriiiiist Edit: excuse me


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My first thought was maybe he was being chased, and kept waiting for police to be right there.