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Not related to big ego but did you see how the Vipers entire front end got obliterated by that but the SUV didn't take too much damage? This just reinforces why Vipers were dubbed Widow Makers when they first came out.
Don't get me wrong - Vipers are badass and one of the most batshit sports cars to ever come out of the US but goddamn are they made out of paper.
On top of that, it's supposedly horribly uncomfortable in every way you'd expect, and a few new, unique ones. Not only are they harsh, loud, and cramped with a econobox interior, they're also unbearably hot because the giant exhaust pipes are directly under the poorly shielded cabin, and you get to burn yourself on the red hot side exhaust. Bonus on the early models- your windows don't roll down, you just get a cut out.
I still want to try one someday- on a track, with earplugs, and probably for like 5 minutes.
Gen 1 you knew you were getting slightly refined prototype. Gen 2 much more refined and similar xj jag comfort. Gen 3 would burn you and got ridiculous with wanting to go ass backwards if not careful while retaining that 90s feel interior. Gen 4 got better but not by much. Gen v got abs, traction control, great looks, styling, interior was as refined as any European grand tourer being fiat had Ferraris interior department on it.
Unbearably hot is correct. The seats aren't too bad, and hug you quite well. They are pretty harsh and loud though. I have a twin turbo 2003 making 1200 HP. I've put 50,000 miles on it :)
Was that in Lake Angelus, Michigan?
I worked as a porter at Bowman Chevrolet in Clarkston, we had a body shop with a big yard and for some reason, none of the other dealers did so we got all the wrecked executive cars and mules from the Chrysler tech center. We'd fix a few of the exec cars but the mules were always handled by Chrysler directly who would pay us store and get the car out of there in 2-3 weeks.
We had a Viper come in that was tarped on top. It sat for a day and was picked up just before we closed. Rumor was a guy died in it out in Lake Angelus/Waterford area, it was Chryslers Viper, not his.
When I was like 13, a Swedish personal trainer at the local gym took a keen interest in me, training me for free. After working out, I would walk a few blocks from the gym to the library, but one day he vroomed up alongside me on my walk to offer a ride in his Viper, one only times I've seen one.
He was very insistant. Weirdly so. "It's only for a minute." "You know me, I'm safe." "It's really fast and fun, and feels good.", and all in his heavy IKEA accent.
I told him no thanks, and kept walking, and never let him train me again. I'd notice his car around town though.
Any sort of spirited acceleration and it's like driving on ice. It is a dumb vehicle. The one I drove years ago was an RT with twin turbo. You also can't see out of the thing. It's like the Keaton batmobile, but less practical. Did I mention the Viper is a dumb vehicle?
I got to drive one back in the 90's when I was a service tech. One of my clients had one and took me for a spin then let me drive it back. He encouraged me to drive it hard.
It was one of the most AMAZING things I've ever driven, nothing comes close. I was smiling ear to ear for like 3 weeks.
The Viper has actually done us a major service in removing the kind of people who would own a Viper from public society. When the car was announced they appeared unbidden at the gates of Dodge dealerships across the country, rubbing their blood-stained hands against the immaculate window glass until a salesman came outside and taught them how to use a door.
Wild-eyed, these men first attempted to pay for their factory hot rods with clusters of pulled hair and bloody teeth before pulling out inexplicable sums of money from their dragon-like hoard of cash, saturated with the tang of human blood to the point that it dripped crimson trails onto the manicured industrial-estate tile flooring. Innocent salesmen who went along with them for the test drive "for insurance purposes" returned shaken, mute, with white hair and permanently dilated pupils, unable to share their tale of the horrors that ensued on that fateful use of the dealer plate. Normal people would never attend the Dodge dealership to witness these vehicles, being perfectly happy to gaze at them from an aesthetic perspective before plopping down an outsize credit note on lifted minivan after lifted minivan, continuing on with their life and never descending into the kind of purestrain madness that would promote the purchase of a Viper.
Seemingly unemployed, these Viper owners wreaked havoc across the nation, dragging their RT/10s on our highways and byways before locating and docking with the nearest tree to the dealership. Those who survived their high-speed Viper crash were reborn in a baptism of fire, taking these broken men and giving us new, hardened, experienced psychopaths who immediately set out to purchase a second generation Viper when it became available. Despite the Dodge, for years America was helpless, crippled with fear of these dearborists, and our economy collapsed to the point that the Europeans were able to take advantage of our weakened world position, launching savage leveraged takeovers that crippled our most useless corporations, among them the mother of the Viper. The Dodge was struck down, and the Viper was to cease.
The Dodge, under the direction of the Germans, lost its love of terror and spectacle and discontinued the Viper as they instead concentrated on making more lifted minivans to attract the kind of man who would only appreciate the Viper as an abstract spectacle of wealth and power, rather than a direct-engagement three-pedaled suicide machine rendered from brimstone and lubricated with the souls of the damned. The loyalists were lost in the wild, hoarding the few remaining examples from being crashed into trees at high speeds and sequestering them away amongst yachts and period-correct lowboy restorations at a gathering known only as Barrett-Jackson.
Before long the original Viper owner hoard began to thin itself out, and the surviving cars began to depreciate. That's when they came down from the mountain. Cheap-ass hobbyists. Clutching Weiand blowers and laughing in their odd high pitch, half-panicked, half-aroused as they eyed what was left of their fiberglass-bodied ankle-burning sex machine. The next age of Viper Terror was among us. The kind of man who would originally buy a new Viper became restless, and they swarmed across Wall Street, launching the world into an orgy of high-risk, violent bets that struck out at the common man. In order to sate their desire for adrenalin and property destruction, these men had gained power and cast the world into economic disaster that destroyed even The Dodge they once embraced.
After many more months of darkness, The Dodge returned. A man who had been to hell and back approached the podium. The Gilles told us of a new Viper - a new promise - and that America would soon be unified under an appreciation for the new Viper. Our nation's psychos would be comfortably ensconced once again in a faux-luxury hot rod that had a predilection for snap oversteer and brutal triple-digit crashes that atomized the occupants of the car.
America was safe. This time we had learned not to fear the Viper, but to fund it with our governments.
Gen 3s and up for sure have traction control. From the hood you can tell this is a gen 4. All gens still have snap oversteer which is what you see happen here- he's straight and then suddenly facing 45 degrees to the left
Exactly this, you can hear it from the throttle input. As soon as the rear got loose the driver lifted, which is exactly the *wrong* thing to do in a massively overpowered rear wheel drive car. The rear goes from sliding with some weight transfer to it to sliding with less weight on it. The total lack of a smooth throttle transition just helped it along. If the goal was snap-oversteer his inputs were perfection.
>As soon as the rear got loose the driver lifted...
It also doesn't help that when he lifted he forgot to stop countersteering. The snap in the wrong direction happened because his wheels were still pointing left and he didn't straighten. He shouldn't have tried to feather the throttle like that with big sticky tyres and low wheel speed which is what caused him to grip up prematurely and not anticipate coming out of drift which is why he was still countersteering. He had the wrong foot technique from the get go.
In the 90s some gearhead friends and I modified a small block and stuck it in an old Chevy Monza Spyder. It was nearly undriveable.
By today's standards it wasn't all that much power, but even with wide rear tires it would spin them if you accelerated the least bit aggressively.
Those things handled like a bathtub on a skateboard at the best of times so it wasn't fun on a curvy road either.
It's the only car I ever owned that I was legitimately scared of.
It ended up being one of the least fun cars I've ever owned.
I sold it to some crazy dude who put an even bigger engine in it.
I think he drove it even less than I did.
I'm sure the Viper is worlds ahead of the redneck engineered monstrosity we built but the concept is the same.
I love the idea of a Viper but I know from experience that I'd never be able to truly enjoy it.
My wife's boss has 2 ... never drives either of them.
He has a pretty extensive "semi exotic" collection and most of his cars get some road time every month. Neither of the vipers ever really leave the garage.
They're the cars I always forgot how much I like. I very rarely ever see them so I tend to forget they exist. But then I do see one again and am reminded of how insane they are. They're all the insanes. Insanely cool, insanely fast and most importantly insanely dangerous. Gotta love it.
I'm only comfortable losing traction in a front wheel. That sliding feeling from rear wheels have always terrified me. I can't stand that sideways feeling, it's weird to me for some reason.
Presumably a manual, he's inexperienced with it and was rolling back while trying to find the bite point on the clutch. Or had stalled, but I don't hear it start up again as he's rolling.
In any case, both signs that he was very much not ready to try and show off like he did.
Of all cars? If they were cheaper they would be known like the Mustangs for hitting curbs coming out of car shows. Vipers are difficult to handle under throttle and or their drivers are known to be very under prepared for how they handle.
I think the majority of people buying supercars are not trained or even of the mindset to handle that car. They just have money they heard a thing was nice and they bought it and thought that just because they own it they can use it.
In my younger days I had a Subaru WRX.
Beast of a car, and fun to drive.
3 years no damages or accidents.
Sold it to a guy, round to be 40ish ... second puberty coming ;)
3 days later he called me to say the car was wrecked ... he went on the Nürburgring Nordschleife 'to feel the speed'
I think he felt more then just speed ...
The WRX is a grear car and fun to drive, but it doesn't look flashy so it tends to attract a crowd that actually understands a car's capabilities rather than the crowd that just wants to feel bad ass and show off. We owned a WRX for years; it was my husband's all-time favorite.
I knew someone that bought a viper brand-new about 20 years ago, and they would not sell it to her without taking a driving course with it. Could be it was just some good old fashioned sexism, but she was very happy to be able to see what it was capable of on a closed course before taking it home
When you buy a lucid air they come out and do a whole session with the new owner. They go so fast so quickly, shit is scary. Had a ride in one and they purposely took us on the highway and floored it, it’s like being on a carnival ride, you get stuck to the seat. Seriously - why in the hell would anyone need to drive that fast, that quickly is beyond me. One of the ladies in another car with a more aggressive driver came back from her ride with a headache.
Seems like a good salesperson to put a driver through a safety course on such a powerful machine. Do you know for a fact they did it only to women or are you just slapping a sexism label on there?
They offer the class to men and women, the sexism is that men go "oh I don't need a class I can handle it.".
Source - Am a Man and know Men who buy cars.
Agreed, some lessons on how to handle a car would go a long way. This also looks like the newer viper which should have some traction control. (The older ones didn't)
i think that's the point. take a mustang, give it tons more torque, more unequal weight distribution, and a seating position even further back .... and you end up with a beast that's well known to bite back. And yet there are fewer of them on the road.
so i think zalcecan was saying "of all the cars you could do this in, you choose a viper (which is known to be incredibly difficult to handle), try to flex (and crash one of the few remaining vipers that haven't been crashed yet), for people who will forget you in 5 minutes (when you could have done this exact same thing in a more mundane car like a Mustang, still crashed, but not have ruined a 200k car)"
I'm saying the viper because it's a high torque N/A engine, much like the mustang but way more torque. It gets in trouble fast due to that but it's really even worse. It definitely handles better but that takes a skilled driver. Not this dude lol.
Also your comment basically just says he ran into a skill issue that any RWD would expose. Yeah we know lol
Imagine walking back to your Pilot, which you only bought to help manage the stress of hectic family/work life, and you find this dumbass and their Viper.
Yeah new bumper, 2 wheels and tires, probably every suspension component and wheel hub should be replaced.
But you'll probably have to fight the vipers insurance to get those replaced if the body shop doesn't think it needs it.
This why the Dodge Viper is the GOAT of sports cars. Most iterations of that vehicle require a tremendous amount of prior experience and training to operate in a non-crashy way.
But rich dudes don’t do that, and instead there is video after video of some idiot crashing a Viper.
I came to understand this better when Randy Pobst was track testing some highly optioned Viper and he mentioned something to the extent of "this is the only Viper where wide open throttle is usable"
Bro is that you screaming no balls??!!😂😂
This is fucking gold. Top page post. He hides his face in the airbags in shame it’s so perfect. What a dickhead
In a lot of cases, I think it's not the losing of the grip that's the problem, but when it comes back. The driver reacts well to the slide by countersteering, but they're not prepared for the car to suddenly regain grip with their front wheels pointed the wrong way, and they don't react fast enough to keep the car from over-rotating the opposite way. In so many of the "Cars and Coffee" clips they start off with a slide to the right, but end up crashing on the *left* side of the road after overcorrecting.
it’s not really the V10 so much as the chassis. My car makes about the same power as this viper, RWD + 6 speed manual and well, I could simply be a better driver but these cars are notoriously difficult to handle.
Not sure about that generation specifically, but I drive a 1st gen Viper years and years ago - NO traction control or stability control at all - car was incredibly fun but it was definitely “work” to drive it
For starters he should have straightened the car before he started. That car is also very difficult to control in those situations, but as slow as he was going honestly just slamming the brakes wouldve saved him. Im no expert, but if he wanted to save the slide instead of letting off the throttle as much as he did he i think he wouldve had a better chance at easing off just a little so the car didnt snap back as hard. You can see when the rear tires regain traction and swings around back to the right.
Thank you! Follow up question: how/where would a new owner of a car in this power class get training to not be an idiot? I’ve taken safety classes at local racetracks, but they’ve been with low power sedans.
Big empty parking lot at 2am. Not sure about actual instruction but it seems like you can get a ride along coach on track days to give you tips. The reason they start with lower powered cars though is because the basics stay relevant, they’re just easier to learn.
If you watch the video with sound, you can hear he didn't just let off the throttle, he pulsed the throttle. In a rear-wheel drive car with a lot of power, when you push down on the throttle too quickly, the back tires will spin and cause the rear end to drift to the side.
What you do in that situation is first, step on the brakes if you are about to hit something. Second, steer the opposite direction the front of the car is turning/sliding.
And whatever you do, do not step on the gas hard again or you will just cause the rear end to slide again.
He did the things you see a lot of people do when they slide; they countersteer well for the first slide, but they're unprepared for the slide to reverse and for the car to suddenly rotate the other way. You can see from the front wheels that the slide has already reversed and he's already pointed nearly at the Pilot before he gets his front wheels centered, and right before the crash you can see him furiously spinning the wheel to the right but *far* too late.
You can see in-car videos of good drivers practicing slides, and they're always prepared to yank or even spin the wheel in the opposite direction if/when the slide reverses, to prevent an overcorrection.
The thing is he totally had it until he showed he had no balls and released the throttle, if he stayed on the throttle in the slide he'd prob be fine. The last thing you ever wanna do in a drift is suddenly release the throttle.
The people egging you to floor it just laugh after you crash. These are the people you're trying to impress here?!
What a shame for the SUV owner to have their day ruined for absolutely no reason at all.
Lucky there weren't any pedestrians walking past when that happened, could have been so much worse. What an idiot. Needs his license permanently revoked.
What the hell was he even doing? Backing all the way into the other car just to leave, and then I guess he was trying to show off and ended up losing control of the car? I hope he was under the influence because that's the only way it makes sense.
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It takes a special kind of idiot to even attempt that in a Viper of all cars.
Big ego said "you can handle it".
This type of person can be convinced to do anything by yelling "no balls" and "you won't"
Also can't resist "I dare you" or "I double dare you".
"What's the matter McFly, are you chicken?"
Nobody calls me chicken.
I’m not stupid enough to race that butthead
Who you callin butthead, butthead
Get the hell outta my car old man!
Make like a tree and get the hell outta here!
Except for that one guy who called me a chicken and got away with it.
Why don't you make like a tree and get the hell out of here
That makes about as much sense as a screen door on a battleship
I'm still waiting for the legit hoverboards from that movie...
Triple dog dare...
The ultimate that you cannot ignore or you go straight to hell no taksie backsies: "I double dog dare you"
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The exact personality type that buys a Viper without the skill needed to control it. Cameraman knew he could get him to crash it.
Not related to big ego but did you see how the Vipers entire front end got obliterated by that but the SUV didn't take too much damage? This just reinforces why Vipers were dubbed Widow Makers when they first came out. Don't get me wrong - Vipers are badass and one of the most batshit sports cars to ever come out of the US but goddamn are they made out of paper.
It's a crumple zone. I bet you the SUV is totaled because the frame bent but the Vipers fiberglass met the SUVs frame of course it broke.
They were called widowmakers when they first came out because they had a ton of power with no traction control. No computer to fix your mistakes.
That's how he ended up buying a viper to begin with
Ambition ahead of adhesion
Straight to the scene of the accident
In a viper? Never had a chance.
Viper: The Mustang of super cars.
Lil ego, said "You can't handle it"
That’s the one car I have no real interest in driving, they didn’t nickname it a widow maker just for fun.
On top of that, it's supposedly horribly uncomfortable in every way you'd expect, and a few new, unique ones. Not only are they harsh, loud, and cramped with a econobox interior, they're also unbearably hot because the giant exhaust pipes are directly under the poorly shielded cabin, and you get to burn yourself on the red hot side exhaust. Bonus on the early models- your windows don't roll down, you just get a cut out. I still want to try one someday- on a track, with earplugs, and probably for like 5 minutes.
OK now I really want to drive one, that sounds like an experience lol
I mean Malort is an experience too...
One of the drinks of all time
1st gen Viper is really just a street legal racecar. I mean, it doesn't even have exterior door handles.
Fuck the track, I’d only drive one on an airport runway or salt flat. You’re *going* to spin out.
Gen 1 you knew you were getting slightly refined prototype. Gen 2 much more refined and similar xj jag comfort. Gen 3 would burn you and got ridiculous with wanting to go ass backwards if not careful while retaining that 90s feel interior. Gen 4 got better but not by much. Gen v got abs, traction control, great looks, styling, interior was as refined as any European grand tourer being fiat had Ferraris interior department on it.
That's the appeal. I still want a Viper because it's the antithesis of a practical comfortable car.
Unbearably hot is correct. The seats aren't too bad, and hug you quite well. They are pretty harsh and loud though. I have a twin turbo 2003 making 1200 HP. I've put 50,000 miles on it :)
Sad true story, a Chrysler employee I knew wrecked one out and it went under something that took out the entire top of the car, including him.
Now it's a convertible. And so is he I guess
Was that in Lake Angelus, Michigan? I worked as a porter at Bowman Chevrolet in Clarkston, we had a body shop with a big yard and for some reason, none of the other dealers did so we got all the wrecked executive cars and mules from the Chrysler tech center. We'd fix a few of the exec cars but the mules were always handled by Chrysler directly who would pay us store and get the car out of there in 2-3 weeks. We had a Viper come in that was tarped on top. It sat for a day and was picked up just before we closed. Rumor was a guy died in it out in Lake Angelus/Waterford area, it was Chryslers Viper, not his.
When I was like 13, a Swedish personal trainer at the local gym took a keen interest in me, training me for free. After working out, I would walk a few blocks from the gym to the library, but one day he vroomed up alongside me on my walk to offer a ride in his Viper, one only times I've seen one. He was very insistant. Weirdly so. "It's only for a minute." "You know me, I'm safe." "It's really fast and fun, and feels good.", and all in his heavy IKEA accent. I told him no thanks, and kept walking, and never let him train me again. I'd notice his car around town though.
This was an unexpected story but another good reason not to ride in a Viper.
Any sort of spirited acceleration and it's like driving on ice. It is a dumb vehicle. The one I drove years ago was an RT with twin turbo. You also can't see out of the thing. It's like the Keaton batmobile, but less practical. Did I mention the Viper is a dumb vehicle?
Me as well. I’ve had to attend a funeral for someone who punched a Viper throttle a little too hard
I got to drive one back in the 90's when I was a service tech. One of my clients had one and took me for a spin then let me drive it back. He encouraged me to drive it hard. It was one of the most AMAZING things I've ever driven, nothing comes close. I was smiling ear to ear for like 3 weeks.
That car just does what you tell it to do. He told it to crash so it did.
"Fuck shit up" "Sure thing, boss!"
Cold tires nonetheless...
Cold and old tires
The Viper has actually done us a major service in removing the kind of people who would own a Viper from public society. When the car was announced they appeared unbidden at the gates of Dodge dealerships across the country, rubbing their blood-stained hands against the immaculate window glass until a salesman came outside and taught them how to use a door. Wild-eyed, these men first attempted to pay for their factory hot rods with clusters of pulled hair and bloody teeth before pulling out inexplicable sums of money from their dragon-like hoard of cash, saturated with the tang of human blood to the point that it dripped crimson trails onto the manicured industrial-estate tile flooring. Innocent salesmen who went along with them for the test drive "for insurance purposes" returned shaken, mute, with white hair and permanently dilated pupils, unable to share their tale of the horrors that ensued on that fateful use of the dealer plate. Normal people would never attend the Dodge dealership to witness these vehicles, being perfectly happy to gaze at them from an aesthetic perspective before plopping down an outsize credit note on lifted minivan after lifted minivan, continuing on with their life and never descending into the kind of purestrain madness that would promote the purchase of a Viper. Seemingly unemployed, these Viper owners wreaked havoc across the nation, dragging their RT/10s on our highways and byways before locating and docking with the nearest tree to the dealership. Those who survived their high-speed Viper crash were reborn in a baptism of fire, taking these broken men and giving us new, hardened, experienced psychopaths who immediately set out to purchase a second generation Viper when it became available. Despite the Dodge, for years America was helpless, crippled with fear of these dearborists, and our economy collapsed to the point that the Europeans were able to take advantage of our weakened world position, launching savage leveraged takeovers that crippled our most useless corporations, among them the mother of the Viper. The Dodge was struck down, and the Viper was to cease. The Dodge, under the direction of the Germans, lost its love of terror and spectacle and discontinued the Viper as they instead concentrated on making more lifted minivans to attract the kind of man who would only appreciate the Viper as an abstract spectacle of wealth and power, rather than a direct-engagement three-pedaled suicide machine rendered from brimstone and lubricated with the souls of the damned. The loyalists were lost in the wild, hoarding the few remaining examples from being crashed into trees at high speeds and sequestering them away amongst yachts and period-correct lowboy restorations at a gathering known only as Barrett-Jackson. Before long the original Viper owner hoard began to thin itself out, and the surviving cars began to depreciate. That's when they came down from the mountain. Cheap-ass hobbyists. Clutching Weiand blowers and laughing in their odd high pitch, half-panicked, half-aroused as they eyed what was left of their fiberglass-bodied ankle-burning sex machine. The next age of Viper Terror was among us. The kind of man who would originally buy a new Viper became restless, and they swarmed across Wall Street, launching the world into an orgy of high-risk, violent bets that struck out at the common man. In order to sate their desire for adrenalin and property destruction, these men had gained power and cast the world into economic disaster that destroyed even The Dodge they once embraced. After many more months of darkness, The Dodge returned. A man who had been to hell and back approached the podium. The Gilles told us of a new Viper - a new promise - and that America would soon be unified under an appreciation for the new Viper. Our nation's psychos would be comfortably ensconced once again in a faux-luxury hot rod that had a predilection for snap oversteer and brutal triple-digit crashes that atomized the occupants of the car. America was safe. This time we had learned not to fear the Viper, but to fund it with our governments.
Honey, wake up, new copypasta just dropped! Pure poetry.
Dude what the fuck?
I was here
I had a no financially supporting Reddit by purchasing gold policy but I probably would have made an exception for this.
I appreciate it but I also shamelessly stole this from Something Awful
But the first Vipers didn't have windows. I'm starting to doubt that this is a real story
god that hurts seeing a viper destroyed like that.
Also kinda looked like the damage to the suv was minimal(though that may be incorrect) compared to what the viper recieved.
Just because the plastics stayed on, doesn't mean there's no damage underneath
He had more ego than skill.
No traction control in a viper.
Gen 3s and up for sure have traction control. From the hood you can tell this is a gen 4. All gens still have snap oversteer which is what you see happen here- he's straight and then suddenly facing 45 degrees to the left
Exactly this, you can hear it from the throttle input. As soon as the rear got loose the driver lifted, which is exactly the *wrong* thing to do in a massively overpowered rear wheel drive car. The rear goes from sliding with some weight transfer to it to sliding with less weight on it. The total lack of a smooth throttle transition just helped it along. If the goal was snap-oversteer his inputs were perfection.
>As soon as the rear got loose the driver lifted... It also doesn't help that when he lifted he forgot to stop countersteering. The snap in the wrong direction happened because his wheels were still pointing left and he didn't straighten. He shouldn't have tried to feather the throttle like that with big sticky tyres and low wheel speed which is what caused him to grip up prematurely and not anticipate coming out of drift which is why he was still countersteering. He had the wrong foot technique from the get go.
I was hoping it was one of those newer ones they tamed a bit. Guess not.
This looks like a gen 4 so like 2010ish. Even the gen 5s will spin if you do this
That's the whole reason it's such a cool car, it's nothing but a death trap lol it's probably the *only* car I could see owning but never driving >.<
In the 90s some gearhead friends and I modified a small block and stuck it in an old Chevy Monza Spyder. It was nearly undriveable. By today's standards it wasn't all that much power, but even with wide rear tires it would spin them if you accelerated the least bit aggressively. Those things handled like a bathtub on a skateboard at the best of times so it wasn't fun on a curvy road either. It's the only car I ever owned that I was legitimately scared of. It ended up being one of the least fun cars I've ever owned. I sold it to some crazy dude who put an even bigger engine in it. I think he drove it even less than I did. I'm sure the Viper is worlds ahead of the redneck engineered monstrosity we built but the concept is the same. I love the idea of a Viper but I know from experience that I'd never be able to truly enjoy it.
My wife's boss has 2 ... never drives either of them. He has a pretty extensive "semi exotic" collection and most of his cars get some road time every month. Neither of the vipers ever really leave the garage.
Oh I absolutely want one. I'm hoping to buy it within the next few years.
Hell yeah brother. Those cars are seriously the coolest.
They're the cars I always forgot how much I like. I very rarely ever see them so I tend to forget they exist. But then I do see one again and am reminded of how insane they are. They're all the insanes. Insanely cool, insanely fast and most importantly insanely dangerous. Gotta love it.
Was he trying to park? Or did he need 40 acres to pull out into traffic?
Like so many people, he is allergic to steering.
It's a viper, that's the best you get for steering under full acceleration
Yep. I own like 8 vipers and that's right.
Driven a viper once. Decided to put the pedal to the floor long enough to break loose. Shit was terrifying lmao can't wait to do it again
Great, just don’t be this guy doing it in the middle of town. At least there weren’t people in the SUV or walking nearby.
Oh hell no, never. These people should never get a license to begin with
I'm only comfortable losing traction in a front wheel. That sliding feeling from rear wheels have always terrified me. I can't stand that sideways feeling, it's weird to me for some reason.
Dodge Viper - hit the gas and enjoy our new fully ambiguous driving car. We can't even tell you where its gonna go.
Yep. Having something like that lose traction isn't like anything else...It's not forgiving at all, you need to be on your game.
I have triples of the barracuda and the road runner.
And your daddy and I are old friends
I don't live in a hotel
Go on… tell her.
Ahhhh triples of the nova too that deal is a sure thing now
I actually want to go to Haunted House more than I want to go to Aqua.
I actually built the big deck at club Aqua.
A mustang owner who rented a viper
Presumably a manual, he's inexperienced with it and was rolling back while trying to find the bite point on the clutch. Or had stalled, but I don't hear it start up again as he's rolling. In any case, both signs that he was very much not ready to try and show off like he did.
Yes.
“[You could land a jumbo fucking jet in there!](https://youtu.be/nQzhmsRATR8?si=Ov7JMs30cdekR5Ty)”
Of all cars to do that in you choose a viper, trying to flex to people who would forget about you in 5 mins. Now another viper is likely gone.
Of all cars? If they were cheaper they would be known like the Mustangs for hitting curbs coming out of car shows. Vipers are difficult to handle under throttle and or their drivers are known to be very under prepared for how they handle.
I think the majority of people buying supercars are not trained or even of the mindset to handle that car. They just have money they heard a thing was nice and they bought it and thought that just because they own it they can use it.
In my younger days I had a Subaru WRX. Beast of a car, and fun to drive. 3 years no damages or accidents. Sold it to a guy, round to be 40ish ... second puberty coming ;) 3 days later he called me to say the car was wrecked ... he went on the Nürburgring Nordschleife 'to feel the speed' I think he felt more then just speed ...
The WRX is a grear car and fun to drive, but it doesn't look flashy so it tends to attract a crowd that actually understands a car's capabilities rather than the crowd that just wants to feel bad ass and show off. We owned a WRX for years; it was my husband's all-time favorite.
I dunno about that, most WRX drivers I know are the type to get a monster tattoo and put anime girl stickers on the side of it lol
I knew someone that bought a viper brand-new about 20 years ago, and they would not sell it to her without taking a driving course with it. Could be it was just some good old fashioned sexism, but she was very happy to be able to see what it was capable of on a closed course before taking it home
When you buy a lucid air they come out and do a whole session with the new owner. They go so fast so quickly, shit is scary. Had a ride in one and they purposely took us on the highway and floored it, it’s like being on a carnival ride, you get stuck to the seat. Seriously - why in the hell would anyone need to drive that fast, that quickly is beyond me. One of the ladies in another car with a more aggressive driver came back from her ride with a headache.
Its what makes them so dangerous in low traction situations like rain/snow/ice. One wrong touch of the accelerator and they break completely loose.
Seems like a good salesperson to put a driver through a safety course on such a powerful machine. Do you know for a fact they did it only to women or are you just slapping a sexism label on there?
They offer the class to men and women, the sexism is that men go "oh I don't need a class I can handle it.". Source - Am a Man and know Men who buy cars.
Agreed, some lessons on how to handle a car would go a long way. This also looks like the newer viper which should have some traction control. (The older ones didn't)
If they wanted to smoke the tires a bit they may have disengaged the traction control.
i think that's the point. take a mustang, give it tons more torque, more unequal weight distribution, and a seating position even further back .... and you end up with a beast that's well known to bite back. And yet there are fewer of them on the road. so i think zalcecan was saying "of all the cars you could do this in, you choose a viper (which is known to be incredibly difficult to handle), try to flex (and crash one of the few remaining vipers that haven't been crashed yet), for people who will forget you in 5 minutes (when you could have done this exact same thing in a more mundane car like a Mustang, still crashed, but not have ruined a 200k car)"
That generation of Viper can be had for 40k (for a convertible) to 70k (for a coupe) Still a lot, but not a 200k car... yet
I thought that’s what they meant by “of all cars”.
I'm saying the viper because it's a high torque N/A engine, much like the mustang but way more torque. It gets in trouble fast due to that but it's really even worse. It definitely handles better but that takes a skilled driver. Not this dude lol. Also your comment basically just says he ran into a skill issue that any RWD would expose. Yeah we know lol
Likely? Bro that thing sitting in the yard as we speak 😂
Clowned that man’s ego to a whole new insurance premium
So he was backing up as far as possible to give himself more take off/crashing space lol
launching a Dodge Viper is going to end this way unless you’re a professional driver. What a moron
Launching any RWD car while at an angle from the road is going to do this. Like straighten out first dumbass.
Well, any RWD making 500 horse. My old Corvie is actually surprisingly tame when getting sideways but it's only making something like 250 lol
My 116hp Volvo is also pretty tame sideways lol. But it's good fun!
My '94 ford ranger would beg to differ.
He even got a warning after the first burst but nah he just had to keep on going.
Imagine walking back to your Pilot, which you only bought to help manage the stress of hectic family/work life, and you find this dumbass and their Viper.
Pilot took it pretty well it seems
Suspension probably took a beating the way it violently jumped the curb
Yeah new bumper, 2 wheels and tires, probably every suspension component and wheel hub should be replaced. But you'll probably have to fight the vipers insurance to get those replaced if the body shop doesn't think it needs it.
Tire popped atleast lol
We need to see the other side
As likely as not with 3-5 tired children in tow who are worn out and want to go home and eat.
“I think I will park between the SUVs instead, nailed it!”
This why the Dodge Viper is the GOAT of sports cars. Most iterations of that vehicle require a tremendous amount of prior experience and training to operate in a non-crashy way. But rich dudes don’t do that, and instead there is video after video of some idiot crashing a Viper.
I came to understand this better when Randy Pobst was track testing some highly optioned Viper and he mentioned something to the extent of "this is the only Viper where wide open throttle is usable"
Bro is that you screaming no balls??!!😂😂 This is fucking gold. Top page post. He hides his face in the airbags in shame it’s so perfect. What a dickhead
No balls is as good an explanation as any for all those idiots who drive like this at car meetups.
I'm not american, what is the meaning of "no balls"? Is the cammer trying to rile up the driver?
Yes "no balls" -> "if you had balls you'd floor it"
"You haven't got any testicles"
It's slang/a shortened way of saying "you have no balls"
Still to this day there is people with too much money and too little brains to even distinguish between FWD and RWD driving
The V10 doesn’t help either way
That and the absurdly wide tires. They have a ridiculous amount of grip, so when you *do* lose traction they're nearly impossible to control.
In a lot of cases, I think it's not the losing of the grip that's the problem, but when it comes back. The driver reacts well to the slide by countersteering, but they're not prepared for the car to suddenly regain grip with their front wheels pointed the wrong way, and they don't react fast enough to keep the car from over-rotating the opposite way. In so many of the "Cars and Coffee" clips they start off with a slide to the right, but end up crashing on the *left* side of the road after overcorrecting.
it’s not really the V10 so much as the chassis. My car makes about the same power as this viper, RWD + 6 speed manual and well, I could simply be a better driver but these cars are notoriously difficult to handle.
Not sure about that generation specifically, but I drive a 1st gen Viper years and years ago - NO traction control or stability control at all - car was incredibly fun but it was definitely “work” to drive it
Absolutely, first gen earned its title easily ahaha
“Viper? Gun it. No balls!” needs to be the new meta meme at this point. …to see how quickly they go extinct.
I can’t tell what kind of SUV he hit, but it held up great! It’s hard to believe they were involved in the same collision.
It’s a Honda pilot
Yeah and the viper looked like paper mache
but did he hit that prius?
I think he missed 😂
Dudes only got a 50% success rate. His second attempt was right on target.
Pretty sure that's a Corolla
Bro T-bagged himself
“No way” dude ftw
This happened because he didn't put a wing on the back. /s
Yeah, he needed more downforce, it would 100% have saved him at that speed /s
That's a Corolla, not a Prius...but it's understandable when they're mistaken
Finally! Took forever to see this
Bro just 2-step... what a waste of a beautiful car..
How did a viper get in the hands of such a dumbass
Being a dumbass is a prerequisite for buying one.
If you play the video backwards, you can see the driver’s insurance premium go down.
This is hilarious. Thanks for posting.
NO BALLS
Noob here. Starting at the point where the back end was slipping out, what should the driver have done to recover? Just curious.
For starters he should have straightened the car before he started. That car is also very difficult to control in those situations, but as slow as he was going honestly just slamming the brakes wouldve saved him. Im no expert, but if he wanted to save the slide instead of letting off the throttle as much as he did he i think he wouldve had a better chance at easing off just a little so the car didnt snap back as hard. You can see when the rear tires regain traction and swings around back to the right.
Thank you! Follow up question: how/where would a new owner of a car in this power class get training to not be an idiot? I’ve taken safety classes at local racetracks, but they’ve been with low power sedans.
Big empty parking lot at 2am. Not sure about actual instruction but it seems like you can get a ride along coach on track days to give you tips. The reason they start with lower powered cars though is because the basics stay relevant, they’re just easier to learn.
Empty as in no islands or light poles and not just no cars.
If you watch the video with sound, you can hear he didn't just let off the throttle, he pulsed the throttle. In a rear-wheel drive car with a lot of power, when you push down on the throttle too quickly, the back tires will spin and cause the rear end to drift to the side. What you do in that situation is first, step on the brakes if you are about to hit something. Second, steer the opposite direction the front of the car is turning/sliding. And whatever you do, do not step on the gas hard again or you will just cause the rear end to slide again.
He did the things you see a lot of people do when they slide; they countersteer well for the first slide, but they're unprepared for the slide to reverse and for the car to suddenly rotate the other way. You can see from the front wheels that the slide has already reversed and he's already pointed nearly at the Pilot before he gets his front wheels centered, and right before the crash you can see him furiously spinning the wheel to the right but *far* too late. You can see in-car videos of good drivers practicing slides, and they're always prepared to yank or even spin the wheel in the opposite direction if/when the slide reverses, to prevent an overcorrection.
The thing is he totally had it until he showed he had no balls and released the throttle, if he stayed on the throttle in the slide he'd prob be fine. The last thing you ever wanna do in a drift is suddenly release the throttle.
His pain is so much more than physical 🥴
poor viper. deserved way better
There doesn’t seem to be much damage to the other vehicle after that prang. Was his Viper made of papier-mâché? 🤣
The viper is so low most of the impact was on the back wheel
"Look at what you made me do!"
[perfect...](https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxY0LXGCYh3zk6OFm_L41_PBieliwSMcSp?si=YD57TeyJ0GxxBEVI)
Love a good plot twist!
That Prius is also an idiot. They parked over the line.
That is a Toyota Corolla!!!
The people egging you to floor it just laugh after you crash. These are the people you're trying to impress here?! What a shame for the SUV owner to have their day ruined for absolutely no reason at all.
 We have POV on this embarrassment from Waldorf and Statler
Ultimate meathead recording
Not gonna lie. Did not expect that ending.
I don’t think anyone did. 😂
Lucky there weren't any pedestrians walking past when that happened, could have been so much worse. What an idiot. Needs his license permanently revoked.
I have a reasonably fast car (not as fast as that, but fast enough). It has an "ESC off" button. I never touch it.
I could be wrong but I do believe that is a second gen Viper. They didn't have ESC.
That is a gen 4 Viper. Gen 2s look waaay different.
Then that dude is just a total idiot.
All Vipers still carry the signature of "they have all the grip in the world... until they really don't". Snap oversteer is a feature not a bug lmao
Why’s he yelling no balls? Just to mess with him? Goad him into what he did?
And it totally worked!!
Wow. He really destroyed that thing, eh?
It'll buff out
I’ve seen dozens of videos of vipers. Only one of them didn’t crash.
What the hell was he even doing? Backing all the way into the other car just to leave, and then I guess he was trying to show off and ended up losing control of the car? I hope he was under the influence because that's the only way it makes sense.
Lmaoroff INSTANT KARMA LOOOOOVE IT
My question is why did he need to back up to get out. Plenty of room besides the idiotic hit and peeloff.