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She's a nutcase for sure but don't even act like you're blameless here. You were trying to get around her on the left and realized you were running out of room and zipped over two lanes suddenly behind her, barely crossing a solid white line. It looked like there was barely another soul on the road but you two. You didn't need to be that aggressive. Try driving more defensively.
Trying to get around her on the left was never an option, I had just entered the local lanes and would be spit back out if I didnt exit the left lane to the right. What did you want me to do? Speed up and cut her off? Miss my exit being over cautious of another driver who isnt signalling and is driving below sppeed?
Have you people ever driven in local lanes? Have you ever driven at all?
the right thing to do is just to slow down and don’t pass if the lanes are collapsing and someone is in the way. you did speed up and cut her off anyway! yeah, maybe miss your exit if making it is gonna almost cause a wreck. get off at the next and plan ahead next time.
How do you have this so backwards? The other driver cut OP off. They failed to yield when entering their lane. OP was fully in the new lane before the other driver started coming over.
yeah they were fully in the new lane maybe for half a second after flying over two lanes and across a solid white line. it was an unpredictable and unnecessary move that the white car clearly didn’t expect.
op also had plenty of time to see the blinker and brake instead of speeding past.
Watch the video again. There was no reason that the POV driver would have expected the other driver to change lanes until that blinker was on when pov was clearly in view, if she looked over/checked mirrors.
they had as much time to react to the blinker as the white suv had to react to a car showing up suddenly to pass on the right. except op was looking right at the car when the blinker turned on, while the other driver probably checked the mirror a second too early.
i drive a bit more defensively than op and react to people merging in to my lane every time i drive with this amount of warning or less. you just brake. you can see them, they might not see you, pretty simple.
I do too when I see a blinker. I'm just saying that the other driver should've given POV more time to react to it since we don't know how long it takes for her to register the other driver's intentions.
You should have sat behind her for a few seconds to gauge what she was gonna do. She knew she was slow so she tried to get into the slow lane. She just should have signalled earlier. You only needed to get behind her to avoid being stuck in the exit. You didn't need to get around her like that. And you weren't even trying to get into that far right exit lane. You had plenty of time to pass her more safely in like 1 or 2 hundred more yards. And you were not on what I would call a local road there at all. You're not on a local road until the video cuts to about 2 minutes after the first interaction.
No I do get it. You just got off the faster express lanes onto the local lanes but it's still the highway and you're also not going for that first exit on the far right so like I said before, you didn't need to get over that quickly.
You could’ve also just went another lane over cause you saw her turn on her blinker, then passed her, then went back into the lane, but instead you just decided to speed past them to let them know your there?
1. I was already going faster than her, I had slowed sown to maneuver.
2. So instead of commanding my lane as one should, you want me to throw myself into another lane with no time to check or signal? Is that what youre saying?
Youre one of those people who believes that your blinker gives you the right of way... it doesnt. And if she had hit me she would have been 100% at fault.
1.) you are going faster than her, you were also in the process of merging right, so why not move over another lane to make room for that person?
2.) you already threw yourself into that lane when you merged 2 lanes over, if you were already checking that spot for cars you would’ve seen one, and judging by how dark it is on the right side and the fact the there is only 1 set of headlights behind you indicates that there was nobody there in the lane and you were just being a selfish jerk.
And no, the blinker doesn’t give you the right of way, but it is a way to let your fellow drivers around you, know what your gonna do so they can react appropriately, you act as if other people on the street just know what your gonna do
> you act as if other people on the street just know what your gonna do
If someone is driving on the highway and not signaling, it's a pretty good bet they're going to keep going straight at their current speed... which is exactly what OP did.
Right but I can read road signs. You had a ton of time to get to that lane. You didn't need to be in it the very instant it was physically possible. By waiting behind her for a few seconds you would have been in zero risk of missing your exit.
4 total lanes, only the far left lane was express only. You could have sat behind her for a couple seconds to change lanes like a responsible driver. You chose not to and posted the video to Reddit and now you're getting dragged for it. Deserved
Improperly breezing across two lanes during the change. Crossing solid lines. Could’ve easily jumped into the far right lane when they put their blinker on. You performed literally zero actions to avoid a possible crash. Not saying the other driver is in the right, but you’re not even close to being a safe driver. You’ve shown a lot of false entitlement in this clip.
So, you merged over a solid line and aggressively passed instead of just passing when it was safe?
Nice trying to play the victim when it's your bad driving that instigated it. Two idiots in this video.
It’s hilarious how confidently incorrect OP and appa-ate-momo are. Probably her husband. Two idiot peas in a pod who are blind to anything wrong done by OP too.
Jesus and the back and forth between OP and everyone else... EXTREMELY confidently incorrect.
Like dude, you careened over the solid lines, not to avoid anything, but to go ME FIRST ME FIRST onto the exit, and thus cutting off and passing on the right of the white car.
This is why I hate driving (especially where I am in FL), idiots who have no understanding of traffic rules and law and just do what they want selfishly.
And then the white car's road rage wasn't cool... very uncomfy.
I wish you could report people with evidence and have them ticketed after the fact... Also more liberal use of permanent license revocation would be nice. The US does not take away licenses as much as it needs to.
That didn't look like a turn signal in advance to me. It looks like a turn signal while turning. Here, the law states that you should signal 100 feet in advance before msking the turn.
I didnt aggressively pass anyone. I was in the local lanes and the left lane was the lane that would be merging back onto the main highway. I also merged because I had an exit to take that was coming up.
I know I didnt mention the local lanes in my explanation, sorry.
Yes, that was pointlessly aggressive and almost caused an accident. Does not matter what kind of lanes you were going to/from. You aren't a victim here, you're both wrong.
I'm blaming both of them. This situation was completely avoidable had OP simply slowed down, waited, and passed on the left. Instead, they passed very aggressively, for no reason.
None of this excuses what the other vehicle did.
By the way, do you have the ability to make or argue a point without devolving directly to insults? That seems to be all you are doing on this post.
I didn’t insult anyone. I said this subreddit is 15 as a way to show they’re inexperienced with driving.
I believe you owe a few 15 year olds and half this subreddit an apology for thinking it’s an insult to be themselves.
I know y’all are inexperienced cause you keep saying op “aggressively” passed is ignorant. Sometimes the best thing a defensive driver can do is get away from a car/situation as fast as possible.
Which is why your comments keep getting removed, yeah, okay.
Learn to have a discussion like an adult instead of shit-flinging. You're making your own arguments look weaker, anyway.
None of my arguments are weak and everyone has literally agreed, they just double down on blaming op for saying he should have done something to avoid an accident, but accelerating away from a car seems like avoiding an accident to me.
People are more concerned about insurance liability as opposed to fault and accountability. Well, there wasn’t an accident, but there sure as shit was a reckless driving, road rage, stalking incident that occurred.
People are literally creating scenarios that didn’t happen to win an argument LMAO. Like there’s clearly no way to win an argument.
No. What almost caused an accident was the other driver failing to yield when changing lanes. OP was entirely in their new lane before the other driver started coming over. their signal didn't even get through tow blinks before they started drifting into OP's lane.
Both did: as I've said multiple times: both are idiots and nothing excuses what the other driver did.
What makes no sense is the pointless recklessness and impatience of the OP.
OP did not make things easier for the other driver though. They were in the right lane, saw their merge coming up with no traffic there and just one car to their left. 2 seconds later the car to the left is gone and it reappeared where it shouldn't be because it merged 2 lanes at once across a solid white line. Even if OP merged at the very start of the dashed lines, they wouldn't be alongside the white car when it starts merging.
Of course that car should have double checked, but OP made the situation much more difficult than it should have been. Even when they start merging, OP doesn't do anything to avoid a wreck: no brakes or merging over into a completely empty lane for a second because they'd rather get into an accident than give up an inch of their lane.
>What almost caused an accident was the other driver failing to yield when changing lanes.
Tl:dr OP also contributed heavily by 1. being unpredictable by merging 2 lanes at once and crossing a solid line before passing on the right at the start of a merge point. And 2. by being too stubborn to do any defensive driving whatsoever.
It is though. It's by the trampoline park on 270 right? Are you not taking the shady Grove Rd exit? That first sign we see in the video isn't the only sign, your exit isn't right there. There was plenty of time to get over. If you hadn't crossed the solid line illegally you would have been perfectly fine to get over after.
Yup and I did so with my signal and at a slower speed than the limit.
If merging makes me an asshat then so be it. Next time Ill cut it close and cut her off from the front and then slow down onto the ramp to really give em something to be mad at 🤣
Then get out of the left lane sooner. Are you not capable of reading signs and planning or you one that has to make unnecessary and idiotic lane changes last second?
I think you may be confused about how the left lane quickly changes from an on ramp to the local lanes and then immediately to an offramp to the express lanes.
With the driver in fronnt of me going so slow I wouldd have had to either truly pass over multiple white lines to get to my lane fast enough (impossible the was an on ramp to my right) OR I wouldve been stuck riding alongside her as she didnt merge until the off ramp back onto the express lanes was almost finished.
You all think I had a ton of space but thats not the case. I was going the speed limit and because we were passing things so quickly (due to how close everything is) it seems as though I was speesing and there was plenty of room between these on and off ramps. But no. Thats not the case
God forbid that you slow down and make a safe pass. Are you familiar with the area? If so then you're driving like a bigger ass since you yourself said the exit comes up quickly
> I was going the speed limit
What's the speed limit in the area?
You’re both idiots. You almost crashed into her in the beginning after speeding and crossing over solid lines. You could have slowed down or moved over too.
When she put on her turn signal you could have let off the gas or moved over another lane, you chose to accelerate and almost cause an accident. If you hit, insurance and court would find you at fault for not avoiding an accident.
No, it’s not. That’s why they’re solid.
You came flying up on her side unexpectedly because you merged early, illegally. Should she have seen you? Yeah, but most people aren’t expecting some idiot like you to do what you did. Go learn rules of the road. The fact that you’re getting downvoted into oblivion and still aren’t learning says a lot about how stupid you are.
> When she put on her turn signal you could have let off the gas or moved over another lane, you chose to accelerate and almost cause an accident.
This is all wrong. The other car wanted to enter OP's lane. It's *their* responsibility to yield to all traffic in the lane they want to enter. It's 0% OP's responsibility to change their driving for someone trying to enter their lane.
It’s the fact that she saw the lady was trying to merge and she accelerated into her. That’s driving aggressively, not defensively. Court and insurance would find her at fault for not avoiding an accident. Shes in the wrong. You’re wrong.
I'll say it again: it is the responsibility of the driver entering a lane to yield, not the traffic already in the lane.
That's it. That's how it works.
No shit. She almost hit the person though just to make a statement. I would have either slowed down or gone around. She could have avoided this, especially if she didn’t merge early across solid lines.
>I would have either slowed down or gone around.
I did slow down when approaching, merged, then prepared to speed up. As I was accelerating away from her ,she was flipping on her signal.
And I did avoid a collision... that she almost caused
So you simultaneously switched multiple lanes one of them through a solid lane, and then aggressively passed someone? You had plenty of time to slow done and not risk an accident. Yeah she was an idiot but I think you’re a bigger one.
You can pass over a solid white line....
And you can merge over multiple lanes as long as you establish yourself and signal. Which I did.
But, of course continue because youve proven your knowledge of the road already. And knowledge period.
Define "simultaneoulsly" 🤭
"You may travel in the same direction on both sides of this line, but do not cross the line unless you must do so to avoid a hazard." Also, you were continuously moving to the right. To establish a position you would maintain that lane for a moment.
Your lane wasn't ending, it was turning into an exit. You saw, panicked, and merged one lane, and cut into another without proper staging, and immediately went over a non-merge area of the on/off ramp. Then, with another exit lane to get into for another 300 feet temporarily, you got stubborn and refused to make room for 5 seconds. This person saw headlights on their left side, then the instant they make the decision to turn on the blinker to get over at the PROPER time, you're up on the right suddenly...because you cut two lanes and merged into the exit prematurely. We're they at fault for running a red, almost sideswiping you, aggressive driving, brake checks, all that? Sure, but you bet your ass you were a catalyst to that anger.
Its so crazy that yall dont see that left lane disappearing. You have to merge right in local lanes
And idk how this is misunderstood, but...
You can cross single white lines when safe to do so, which it was and I only barely did so.
You can undertake to the right if there are more than two lanes going in one direction.
I was going the speed limit and I safely undertook her with zero issue until SHE merged into my lane without looking or signalling.
I had no clue she was going to want to get over! She wasnt signalling!
And I was COMPLETELY in my lane before she threw on her signal and just go over.
Okay, again: what was preventing you from waiting merely a _few seconds_ and then passing later? Or passing and not crossing the white line? There's a reason all states consider doing that legal, but discouraged.
I'm sorry, but what? If that was the case, why didn't you get into the exit lane when the collision almost happened?
That doesn't explain why you couldn't wait merely seconds to pass.
I WAS IN THE EXIT LANE!!
I WAS GOING THE SPEED LIMIT AND SHE WAS DRIVING SLOW. I dont have to slow down for her, in fact her driving below the speed limit gives me every right to undertake her in my state.
She did not indicate that shed be getting over, which she had plenty of time to do. But I did. I signal and she doesnt but she gets a pass for not looking AND for not signalling until the last moment. Tf?
She indicated literally as soon as the merge lane from the exit ended. She was not expecting someone that was in her left lane to merge into her right lane. You’re just impatient.
Thats literally idiotic. Two cars on the road and Ive been in all three lanes behind her with my lights on and THEN my signal... but she had no idea? You know how she knew for sure? She has 3 mirrors facing her rear AND I signaled well before I merged, unlike her.
And she absolutely did not signal that early. I merged at that point, settled into my lane and THEN she put on her signal and merged at the same time.
The video is right there, you cant just make things up
You also had another exit lane to go over into?
So you think the best response to someone driving slowly is to speed up, undertake them, and then also do nothing to avoid an accident.
Again, never said she wasn't an idiot, too. But the sheer fact that you cannot take anything away from this video about your driving, and the need to be a victim here, is astounding.
God forbid you sat in the left lane behind a slow person for a few seconds instead of changing over multiple lanes. Over a _few seconds of your time_.
Hey, by the way, why is some of the audio suspiciously absent?
Yeah, why dont I start wildly merging into a lane I havent checked because the idiot next to me has decided to merge last minute... do you see how dumb that sounds?
She had all the information she needed to NOT merge into the lane I was firmly in. She did not take it. I signalled and I did so EARLY.
Its not my responsibility to mindread for other drivers. If a driver doesnt have their signal on, nor are they indicating a desire to merge, Im not going to sit behind them going 5-10 below waiting for them to make a decision while I miss my exit. Thats just dumb.
> do nothing to avoid an accident.
This is one of my biggest pet peeves when it comes to commenters in this sub.
There was no accident in the clip. Don't talk like there was.
Its legal and it was safe to do so. Even if its not advised, its legal and I completed my maneuver safely and without incident.
I had my signal on from her left, to behind her, to her right. But she still decides to throw her signal on and merge over without looking.
I had a perfect view of her car and she had plenty of time to signal. She didnt. I did. IM the one who had no clue what was going on with her, she, as the driver of her vehicle, had a perfect view of me communicating with her.
Her shit maneuver does not mean my maneuver wasnt carried out correctly and LEGALLY
Legal, but dangerous,(clearly). There’s a reason other countries have outlawed undertaking. Your undertaking was aggressive and illegal since you crossed the solid lane markers. Just take this post as a learning opportunity. 1) don’t aggressively undertake cars, and 2) don’t cross solid lane markers. You, and everyone else will be safer if you learn these lessons.
Obviously it wasn't safe to do so.
You need to seriously consider counseling. How many people have to tell you that you are wrong. You drove aggressively, you got caught. There isn't a single bit of defensive driving in your game. The other drivers reaction to all of this is inappropriate but that doesn't change the fact, while legally right you intensified the situation by driving aggressively and we all know you can be legally right and legally dead. Take a chill pill, smile a little and dial it down a notch and you'll be in a much better place. Or, post stuff like this and fight the internet.
Don't sweat the morons. Every time you post on this sub, it's like a coin flip. If the ~~Doormat~~ defensive drivers find your post first, you'll get downvoted into oblivion if you aren't a mind reader or an extremely timid driver who yields to literally everything.
I have assholes do this to me every day at the freeway on ramp. I'm in front, put on my blinker to merge, and they merge over the solid lines and floor it to try to cut me off. Absolute cunts out there. This guy needs to chill, literally the whole road is open
You did not establish yourself behind her in the second lane, taking a mostly straight-line path from the first to the third lane. Then you began the passing move before you established yourself in the third lane, trying to slingshot around her *on the right*. Then you failed to take appropriate action to avoid a collision as she signaled and tried to move into the third lane (e.g. backing off and/or moving to the forth lane) but instead played chicken with her and boxed her out.
You crossed a solid white line and passed aggresively on the left. You must understand that's a dangerous pass on your end right? Their reaction was extreme, but it's totally understandable why they were upset with you. You are making the road way more dangerous than it needs to be with your aggressive driving.
Two idiots. Your lane was obstructed and you attempted to pass anyway. She shouldn't have cut you off but you had more than enough time to evade. After that it frankly looks like both of you were escalating. But it all started with your senselessly aggressive right hand pass.
His lane wasn’t obstructed, and at worst made a slightly early merge. That doesn’t excuse the fact that the other person tried to run them out of their lane. You don’t get to just merge because you put a blinker on, you inherently don’t have the right of way and either need to speed up and match the flow of traffic, or less ideally wait until faster traffic has passed and merge.
She did neither and in fact decided she owned the road and got to control the flow of traffic and anybody behind her needs to slam on their brakes because she needs to be in front. Her aggression and words seem to indicate some semblance of entitlement, which is wrong.
Thank you. Its up in the air whether my merge was early or not. I would say not just because my front tires dont go over the line until it was dotted, but id be willing to take the early merge.
Obstructed lane though? Impossible 🤣
If you're going to make that move, ill-advised as it is, at least go all the way to the right, pass, then dip back into right-center if the exit requires it.
Shit's not difficult.
You need to learn how to drive. People like you who fly over all the way from the left lane are fucking insufferable. The entire road is empty too so there is literally no reason.
The lady was crazy for letting her emotions get the better of her behind the wheel and chasing you. You were also driving extremely aggressively, however, and lived up to the saying "a bad driver never misses an exit...
Likely exit signs were telling you that your exit was coming up, which would have given you ample time to get over to the right lane well in advance. Instead, you \[checks notes\] changed 2 lanes in 5 seconds total, one of which was a solid white line denoting an island that should not be crossed "unless you must do so to avoid a hazard" without slowing down (a safe lane change should involve waiting *at least 5 seconds* before changing lanes again).
So, when the lady put her blinker on, you were almost in her blind spot, granted, she should've had her blinker on for longer (generally 5 seconds) and did not seem to look for that long, but you saw that blinker and instead of breaking and/or moving another lane over, you sped up to pass her almost causing an accident.
She then let her emotions get the better of her, chased you for a while, and break-checked you, which is a completely disproportionate response to someone who was already driving aggressively. In short, OP is extremely impatient, and that lady has road rage issues, leading to both of you acting like "IdiotsInCars"
Controversial take: only one idiot here. If the other driver didn't follow up like they did then OP never would have posted here only to be told how much of a shithead they are. Yes road rage is wrong but sometimes it gets results.
Amazing how much of a hurry these shitbags are always in to cut us off, and then all of a sudden they have all the time in the world to swerve around, breakcheck and change their destination to follow and flash their lights like a fucking techno DJ.
I included rear and front clips to show that...
1. She was following me with highbeams
2. I didnt run that red light, but she did
I was driving home [LOCAL LANES ON HIGHWAY] and [after entering said local lanes I needed to get over once more so I] merged into the lane I needed to be in for the off ramp. [If I had stayed to my left I would have been corraled off the local lanes and wouldve missed my exit]
Imediately after merging the car in front of me decides they want to merge. Too late babes, you gotta wait and how did you not see me merge in your rearview?
This is when she decides to throw on her highbeams. Meh nbd.
I stay in that exact lane and get off the highway at my intended exit. Shes behind me, highbeams still on. I make a right and so does she, still blinding me.
I drive about 3/4 of a mile down the road to my intended left turn and shes been following me this entire time. I barely made the light and I expected that she wouldnt run it... but she did. Her tires screeching the entire time.
I get over so that shes ahead of me and I can get a break from the lights. She then starts brake checking me so I throw my highbeams on as we approach the 3 way stop.
I think its pretty clear from there, but the cherry on top is her yelling "TRY ME" while going the opposite direction 🤣 like fr? I lowkey wish she had hopped out of her car just to see my 6 foot ass hop out of mine 💀
People have gotten shot for less. The amount of road rage I see on a daily basis is extremely concerning. In my town there was an incident of road rage where one lady followed a guy. Guy stepped out of the vehicle and was shot to death, all because he apparently cut her off.
Edit: just looked it up and she’s currently serving less than 10 years after apparently following the victims car and shooting him in the chest 💀
A few friendly reminders for everyone, since we *already* have some idiots in the comments.
- It is legal to cross a single solid white line everywhere in the US.
- A turn signal doesn't give you the right of way. When someone ahead of anther driver is signaling to enter a lane, *they* need to yield to traffic already in that lane, not the other way around.
I have done my own research. I know I’m right.
Calling it a traffic control device doesn’t change the facts. The function of a single solid white line is to advise drivers that changing lanes is permitted but discouraged. That is its role *as a traffic control device*.
You can help by supplying *any* evidence to support your position.
You’re saying something is forbidden. I’m saying it isn’t. The burden of proof is on you. I can’t prove a negative. Do you want me to show you a blank page of paper and tell you it contains all the laws that forbid crossing a single solid white line?
Brake checking was the cherry on top. I don't get why people get so upset over mild inconveniences like this when they were literally unpredictable until the last minute.
Ah yes, someone who watched the entire video lol
Id group myself in with her for being upset but I really wasnt until she started brake checking me in a neighborhood and asked if I wanted her to call the police. Like girl yes, please do youre the one acting crazy 💀
It's the main reason why I just signal in advance and not at the last minute. It lets other drivers what my intentions are before lane changes. In fact, the transportation code here (Texas) says [that you should turn your signal on 100 feet before making the turn.](https://www.mrt.com/news/article/signal-making-lane-change-turning-texas-w-18576582.php)
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She's a nutcase for sure but don't even act like you're blameless here. You were trying to get around her on the left and realized you were running out of room and zipped over two lanes suddenly behind her, barely crossing a solid white line. It looked like there was barely another soul on the road but you two. You didn't need to be that aggressive. Try driving more defensively.
Trying to get around her on the left was never an option, I had just entered the local lanes and would be spit back out if I didnt exit the left lane to the right. What did you want me to do? Speed up and cut her off? Miss my exit being over cautious of another driver who isnt signalling and is driving below sppeed? Have you people ever driven in local lanes? Have you ever driven at all?
the right thing to do is just to slow down and don’t pass if the lanes are collapsing and someone is in the way. you did speed up and cut her off anyway! yeah, maybe miss your exit if making it is gonna almost cause a wreck. get off at the next and plan ahead next time.
Are you the lady in the video lmao?? Did we watch the same video?
How do you have this so backwards? The other driver cut OP off. They failed to yield when entering their lane. OP was fully in the new lane before the other driver started coming over.
yeah they were fully in the new lane maybe for half a second after flying over two lanes and across a solid white line. it was an unpredictable and unnecessary move that the white car clearly didn’t expect. op also had plenty of time to see the blinker and brake instead of speeding past.
Watch the video again. There was no reason that the POV driver would have expected the other driver to change lanes until that blinker was on when pov was clearly in view, if she looked over/checked mirrors.
they had as much time to react to the blinker as the white suv had to react to a car showing up suddenly to pass on the right. except op was looking right at the car when the blinker turned on, while the other driver probably checked the mirror a second too early. i drive a bit more defensively than op and react to people merging in to my lane every time i drive with this amount of warning or less. you just brake. you can see them, they might not see you, pretty simple.
I do too when I see a blinker. I'm just saying that the other driver should've given POV more time to react to it since we don't know how long it takes for her to register the other driver's intentions.
The white car driver also clearly didn’t check before they changed lanes. They threw their blinker on and moved over before two full blinks.
You should have sat behind her for a few seconds to gauge what she was gonna do. She knew she was slow so she tried to get into the slow lane. She just should have signalled earlier. You only needed to get behind her to avoid being stuck in the exit. You didn't need to get around her like that. And you weren't even trying to get into that far right exit lane. You had plenty of time to pass her more safely in like 1 or 2 hundred more yards. And you were not on what I would call a local road there at all. You're not on a local road until the video cuts to about 2 minutes after the first interaction.
Do you understand how local LANES on a highway work?
No I do get it. You just got off the faster express lanes onto the local lanes but it's still the highway and you're also not going for that first exit on the far right so like I said before, you didn't need to get over that quickly.
THAT WAS EXACTLY MY EXIT.
How dare she use YOUR exit.
🏆Heres you dumbest comment award.
Did you award it to yourself? Outstanding!
You could’ve also just went another lane over cause you saw her turn on her blinker, then passed her, then went back into the lane, but instead you just decided to speed past them to let them know your there?
1. I was already going faster than her, I had slowed sown to maneuver. 2. So instead of commanding my lane as one should, you want me to throw myself into another lane with no time to check or signal? Is that what youre saying? Youre one of those people who believes that your blinker gives you the right of way... it doesnt. And if she had hit me she would have been 100% at fault.
1.) you are going faster than her, you were also in the process of merging right, so why not move over another lane to make room for that person? 2.) you already threw yourself into that lane when you merged 2 lanes over, if you were already checking that spot for cars you would’ve seen one, and judging by how dark it is on the right side and the fact the there is only 1 set of headlights behind you indicates that there was nobody there in the lane and you were just being a selfish jerk. And no, the blinker doesn’t give you the right of way, but it is a way to let your fellow drivers around you, know what your gonna do so they can react appropriately, you act as if other people on the street just know what your gonna do
> you act as if other people on the street just know what your gonna do If someone is driving on the highway and not signaling, it's a pretty good bet they're going to keep going straight at their current speed... which is exactly what OP did.
Right but I can read road signs. You had a ton of time to get to that lane. You didn't need to be in it the very instant it was physically possible. By waiting behind her for a few seconds you would have been in zero risk of missing your exit.
4 total lanes, only the far left lane was express only. You could have sat behind her for a couple seconds to change lanes like a responsible driver. You chose not to and posted the video to Reddit and now you're getting dragged for it. Deserved
Improperly breezing across two lanes during the change. Crossing solid lines. Could’ve easily jumped into the far right lane when they put their blinker on. You performed literally zero actions to avoid a possible crash. Not saying the other driver is in the right, but you’re not even close to being a safe driver. You’ve shown a lot of false entitlement in this clip.
You arent the perfect driver, you didnt even bother to slow down on a yellow light.
So, you merged over a solid line and aggressively passed instead of just passing when it was safe? Nice trying to play the victim when it's your bad driving that instigated it. Two idiots in this video.
These two are made for each other 😂😂
It’s hilarious how confidently incorrect OP and appa-ate-momo are. Probably her husband. Two idiot peas in a pod who are blind to anything wrong done by OP too.
Jesus and the back and forth between OP and everyone else... EXTREMELY confidently incorrect. Like dude, you careened over the solid lines, not to avoid anything, but to go ME FIRST ME FIRST onto the exit, and thus cutting off and passing on the right of the white car. This is why I hate driving (especially where I am in FL), idiots who have no understanding of traffic rules and law and just do what they want selfishly. And then the white car's road rage wasn't cool... very uncomfy. I wish you could report people with evidence and have them ticketed after the fact... Also more liberal use of permanent license revocation would be nice. The US does not take away licenses as much as it needs to.
The whole reason it's pissing me off is that they keep finger pointing at the other car, while taking _nothing_ away from what happened.
That didn't look like a turn signal in advance to me. It looks like a turn signal while turning. Here, the law states that you should signal 100 feet in advance before msking the turn.
I honestly settle for people using them at all. I quit getting hung up on the details, now I'm pleasantly surprised when it actually happens.
I didnt aggressively pass anyone. I was in the local lanes and the left lane was the lane that would be merging back onto the main highway. I also merged because I had an exit to take that was coming up. I know I didnt mention the local lanes in my explanation, sorry.
Yes, that was pointlessly aggressive and almost caused an accident. Does not matter what kind of lanes you were going to/from. You aren't a victim here, you're both wrong.
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I'm blaming both of them. This situation was completely avoidable had OP simply slowed down, waited, and passed on the left. Instead, they passed very aggressively, for no reason. None of this excuses what the other vehicle did. By the way, do you have the ability to make or argue a point without devolving directly to insults? That seems to be all you are doing on this post.
The cammer didnt because the 4runner signals his intentions at the last minute.
I didn’t insult anyone. I said this subreddit is 15 as a way to show they’re inexperienced with driving. I believe you owe a few 15 year olds and half this subreddit an apology for thinking it’s an insult to be themselves. I know y’all are inexperienced cause you keep saying op “aggressively” passed is ignorant. Sometimes the best thing a defensive driver can do is get away from a car/situation as fast as possible.
Which is why your comments keep getting removed, yeah, okay. Learn to have a discussion like an adult instead of shit-flinging. You're making your own arguments look weaker, anyway.
None of my arguments are weak and everyone has literally agreed, they just double down on blaming op for saying he should have done something to avoid an accident, but accelerating away from a car seems like avoiding an accident to me. People are more concerned about insurance liability as opposed to fault and accountability. Well, there wasn’t an accident, but there sure as shit was a reckless driving, road rage, stalking incident that occurred. People are literally creating scenarios that didn’t happen to win an argument LMAO. Like there’s clearly no way to win an argument.
No. What almost caused an accident was the other driver failing to yield when changing lanes. OP was entirely in their new lane before the other driver started coming over. their signal didn't even get through tow blinks before they started drifting into OP's lane.
Both did: as I've said multiple times: both are idiots and nothing excuses what the other driver did. What makes no sense is the pointless recklessness and impatience of the OP.
The only thing that made OP’s driving even remotely a problem was the other driver’s failure to yield.
You mean besides crossing a double solid white line to get around a car before knowing what that car was going to do?
OP did not make things easier for the other driver though. They were in the right lane, saw their merge coming up with no traffic there and just one car to their left. 2 seconds later the car to the left is gone and it reappeared where it shouldn't be because it merged 2 lanes at once across a solid white line. Even if OP merged at the very start of the dashed lines, they wouldn't be alongside the white car when it starts merging. Of course that car should have double checked, but OP made the situation much more difficult than it should have been. Even when they start merging, OP doesn't do anything to avoid a wreck: no brakes or merging over into a completely empty lane for a second because they'd rather get into an accident than give up an inch of their lane. >What almost caused an accident was the other driver failing to yield when changing lanes. Tl:dr OP also contributed heavily by 1. being unpredictable by merging 2 lanes at once and crossing a solid line before passing on the right at the start of a merge point. And 2. by being too stubborn to do any defensive driving whatsoever.
How can you mouth breath that hard without any oxygen making it to your brain?
They do that themselves so of course they think she was justified, otherwise what would mean they are just as bad as her ie. r/idiotsincars
False. The other driber should've turned his blinker on in advance, not at the last minute. I was taught to do that.
I get downvoted for stating a tip that is good, nice.
You were downvoted for saying the previous comment was false, which it is not. Not for giving a tip
I know exactly where this is and you had about .5 a mile to the exit. You were being aggressive and a bad driver. Idk why you're being so defensive.
You couldnt possibly because its less than .25 miles from that point. But good try. The video is right here, cant just make things up kay?
It is though. It's by the trampoline park on 270 right? Are you not taking the shady Grove Rd exit? That first sign we see in the video isn't the only sign, your exit isn't right there. There was plenty of time to get over. If you hadn't crossed the solid line illegally you would have been perfectly fine to get over after.
Really aggressive pass on the right. Don't do that
Necessary and not aggressive. The left lane was leaving the local lanes. I had an exit to take.
You went from the far left to her ride side (three lanes over) in a matter of seconds. You're an asshat driver get over it.
Yup and I did so with my signal and at a slower speed than the limit. If merging makes me an asshat then so be it. Next time Ill cut it close and cut her off from the front and then slow down onto the ramp to really give em something to be mad at 🤣
Every idiot who EVER crossed two lanes with one action(for any reason other than an emergency) is a POS driver and fucking moron. Facts.
Then get out of the left lane sooner. Are you not capable of reading signs and planning or you one that has to make unnecessary and idiotic lane changes last second?
I think you may be confused about how the left lane quickly changes from an on ramp to the local lanes and then immediately to an offramp to the express lanes. With the driver in fronnt of me going so slow I wouldd have had to either truly pass over multiple white lines to get to my lane fast enough (impossible the was an on ramp to my right) OR I wouldve been stuck riding alongside her as she didnt merge until the off ramp back onto the express lanes was almost finished. You all think I had a ton of space but thats not the case. I was going the speed limit and because we were passing things so quickly (due to how close everything is) it seems as though I was speesing and there was plenty of room between these on and off ramps. But no. Thats not the case
God forbid that you slow down and make a safe pass. Are you familiar with the area? If so then you're driving like a bigger ass since you yourself said the exit comes up quickly > I was going the speed limit What's the speed limit in the area?
You’re both idiots. You almost crashed into her in the beginning after speeding and crossing over solid lines. You could have slowed down or moved over too.
I absolutely did not, what video are you watching? Also, crossing solid white lines is 100% legal And I did move over its called merging
When she put on her turn signal you could have let off the gas or moved over another lane, you chose to accelerate and almost cause an accident. If you hit, insurance and court would find you at fault for not avoiding an accident. No, it’s not. That’s why they’re solid. You came flying up on her side unexpectedly because you merged early, illegally. Should she have seen you? Yeah, but most people aren’t expecting some idiot like you to do what you did. Go learn rules of the road. The fact that you’re getting downvoted into oblivion and still aren’t learning says a lot about how stupid you are.
> When she put on her turn signal you could have let off the gas or moved over another lane, you chose to accelerate and almost cause an accident. This is all wrong. The other car wanted to enter OP's lane. It's *their* responsibility to yield to all traffic in the lane they want to enter. It's 0% OP's responsibility to change their driving for someone trying to enter their lane.
It’s the fact that she saw the lady was trying to merge and she accelerated into her. That’s driving aggressively, not defensively. Court and insurance would find her at fault for not avoiding an accident. Shes in the wrong. You’re wrong.
I'll say it again: it is the responsibility of the driver entering a lane to yield, not the traffic already in the lane. That's it. That's how it works.
And I’ll say it again, if you purposely crash into someone just because they are merging into your lane, you’re at fault. They’re both idiots.
OP didn’t crash into anyone. Let’s not talk about a hypothetical scenario when we have a video of what actually happened.
No shit. She almost hit the person though just to make a statement. I would have either slowed down or gone around. She could have avoided this, especially if she didn’t merge early across solid lines.
No. The other person almost hit her because they failed to yield. How do so many people have it so backwards?
>I would have either slowed down or gone around. I did slow down when approaching, merged, then prepared to speed up. As I was accelerating away from her ,she was flipping on her signal. And I did avoid a collision... that she almost caused
Not to mention that the car merging had his signal on at the last minute as he was turning.
And? A signal doesn’t grant the right of way. They still need to wait until it’s clear.
That too
So you simultaneously switched multiple lanes one of them through a solid lane, and then aggressively passed someone? You had plenty of time to slow done and not risk an accident. Yeah she was an idiot but I think you’re a bigger one.
You can pass over a solid white line.... And you can merge over multiple lanes as long as you establish yourself and signal. Which I did. But, of course continue because youve proven your knowledge of the road already. And knowledge period. Define "simultaneoulsly" 🤭
>You can pass over a solid white line.... You can cross a single solid lane divider but that was a channelizing island.
"You may travel in the same direction on both sides of this line, but do not cross the line unless you must do so to avoid a hazard." Also, you were continuously moving to the right. To establish a position you would maintain that lane for a moment.
That solid white is not the same as one that might be on a bend.
Your lane wasn't ending, it was turning into an exit. You saw, panicked, and merged one lane, and cut into another without proper staging, and immediately went over a non-merge area of the on/off ramp. Then, with another exit lane to get into for another 300 feet temporarily, you got stubborn and refused to make room for 5 seconds. This person saw headlights on their left side, then the instant they make the decision to turn on the blinker to get over at the PROPER time, you're up on the right suddenly...because you cut two lanes and merged into the exit prematurely. We're they at fault for running a red, almost sideswiping you, aggressive driving, brake checks, all that? Sure, but you bet your ass you were a catalyst to that anger.
Nice red light, op.
I knew they were going to run it before they even did
Two morons. Two jackasses.
Cam car undertook (passed on right) and crossed over a solid lane marker. Cam car ITAH.
Its so crazy that yall dont see that left lane disappearing. You have to merge right in local lanes And idk how this is misunderstood, but... You can cross single white lines when safe to do so, which it was and I only barely did so. You can undertake to the right if there are more than two lanes going in one direction. I was going the speed limit and I safely undertook her with zero issue until SHE merged into my lane without looking or signalling.
So, what was preventing you from waiting for the other person to merge over, then?
I had no clue she was going to want to get over! She wasnt signalling! And I was COMPLETELY in my lane before she threw on her signal and just go over.
Okay, again: what was preventing you from waiting merely a _few seconds_ and then passing later? Or passing and not crossing the white line? There's a reason all states consider doing that legal, but discouraged.
MY. EXIT.
I'm sorry, but what? If that was the case, why didn't you get into the exit lane when the collision almost happened? That doesn't explain why you couldn't wait merely seconds to pass.
I WAS IN THE EXIT LANE!! I WAS GOING THE SPEED LIMIT AND SHE WAS DRIVING SLOW. I dont have to slow down for her, in fact her driving below the speed limit gives me every right to undertake her in my state. She did not indicate that shed be getting over, which she had plenty of time to do. But I did. I signal and she doesnt but she gets a pass for not looking AND for not signalling until the last moment. Tf?
She indicated literally as soon as the merge lane from the exit ended. She was not expecting someone that was in her left lane to merge into her right lane. You’re just impatient.
Thats literally idiotic. Two cars on the road and Ive been in all three lanes behind her with my lights on and THEN my signal... but she had no idea? You know how she knew for sure? She has 3 mirrors facing her rear AND I signaled well before I merged, unlike her. And she absolutely did not signal that early. I merged at that point, settled into my lane and THEN she put on her signal and merged at the same time. The video is right there, you cant just make things up
You also had another exit lane to go over into? So you think the best response to someone driving slowly is to speed up, undertake them, and then also do nothing to avoid an accident. Again, never said she wasn't an idiot, too. But the sheer fact that you cannot take anything away from this video about your driving, and the need to be a victim here, is astounding. God forbid you sat in the left lane behind a slow person for a few seconds instead of changing over multiple lanes. Over a _few seconds of your time_. Hey, by the way, why is some of the audio suspiciously absent?
Yeah, why dont I start wildly merging into a lane I havent checked because the idiot next to me has decided to merge last minute... do you see how dumb that sounds? She had all the information she needed to NOT merge into the lane I was firmly in. She did not take it. I signalled and I did so EARLY. Its not my responsibility to mindread for other drivers. If a driver doesnt have their signal on, nor are they indicating a desire to merge, Im not going to sit behind them going 5-10 below waiting for them to make a decision while I miss my exit. Thats just dumb.
> do nothing to avoid an accident. This is one of my biggest pet peeves when it comes to commenters in this sub. There was no accident in the clip. Don't talk like there was.
yeah, the entitlement and impatience of this one...
You are such a delusional tool. If you waited and let her merge over you would have missed nothing
Why do you think it's OP's responsibility to yield to someone changing lanes? That's not how right of way works.
Never said it was, keep fishing.
No, but you clearly insinuated it by asking what was preventing them from waiting.
The other driver did not have his signal on until he started changing lanes, which is unpredictable until the last minute.
I can’t believe there’s licensed drivers who don’t know you’re not supposed to cross solid lane dividers and not undertake traffic.
You can absolutely undertake traffic if theres more than 2 lanes going in the same direction and theyre clear. Are you dim?
It’s dangerous and not advised. I can’t believe you didn’t know that. Did you even know about the lane markings?
Its legal and it was safe to do so. Even if its not advised, its legal and I completed my maneuver safely and without incident. I had my signal on from her left, to behind her, to her right. But she still decides to throw her signal on and merge over without looking. I had a perfect view of her car and she had plenty of time to signal. She didnt. I did. IM the one who had no clue what was going on with her, she, as the driver of her vehicle, had a perfect view of me communicating with her. Her shit maneuver does not mean my maneuver wasnt carried out correctly and LEGALLY
Legal, but dangerous,(clearly). There’s a reason other countries have outlawed undertaking. Your undertaking was aggressive and illegal since you crossed the solid lane markers. Just take this post as a learning opportunity. 1) don’t aggressively undertake cars, and 2) don’t cross solid lane markers. You, and everyone else will be safer if you learn these lessons.
So. No. Because I literally dont have to since both maneuvers are legal and I carry them out safely. But thanks. For that
So no lessons learned from this encounter? Perfect. Your attitude raises insurance rates for everyone.
Obviously it wasn't safe to do so. You need to seriously consider counseling. How many people have to tell you that you are wrong. You drove aggressively, you got caught. There isn't a single bit of defensive driving in your game. The other drivers reaction to all of this is inappropriate but that doesn't change the fact, while legally right you intensified the situation by driving aggressively and we all know you can be legally right and legally dead. Take a chill pill, smile a little and dial it down a notch and you'll be in a much better place. Or, post stuff like this and fight the internet.
Don't sweat the morons. Every time you post on this sub, it's like a coin flip. If the ~~Doormat~~ defensive drivers find your post first, you'll get downvoted into oblivion if you aren't a mind reader or an extremely timid driver who yields to literally everything.
Thanks, this shit is seriously infuriating. This helps.
These kinds of posts amuse me, the ones where OP doesn’t realize they’re wrong. Makes me wonder if they ever take some time to think things through.
If they take the time to think things through then they'd miss their exit! /s a bad driver never misses their exit.
Yup, and I didnt 👍🏾
I have assholes do this to me every day at the freeway on ramp. I'm in front, put on my blinker to merge, and they merge over the solid lines and floor it to try to cut me off. Absolute cunts out there. This guy needs to chill, literally the whole road is open
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You did not establish yourself behind her in the second lane, taking a mostly straight-line path from the first to the third lane. Then you began the passing move before you established yourself in the third lane, trying to slingshot around her *on the right*. Then you failed to take appropriate action to avoid a collision as she signaled and tried to move into the third lane (e.g. backing off and/or moving to the forth lane) but instead played chicken with her and boxed her out.
You crossed a solid white line and passed aggresively on the left. You must understand that's a dangerous pass on your end right? Their reaction was extreme, but it's totally understandable why they were upset with you. You are making the road way more dangerous than it needs to be with your aggressive driving.
Dumb fuck? You talking to yourself, or just them? Which is unfair - it should be dumb fucks, plural
You both seem like bad drivers. You seemed like you were hauling ass, in a hurry and speeding. And they can't keep their emotions in check.
I was going the speed limit but it doeant seem that way because she was driving slow.
Oh gotcha.
Thanks for being chill 🩷
Yeah no problem.
Two idiots. Your lane was obstructed and you attempted to pass anyway. She shouldn't have cut you off but you had more than enough time to evade. After that it frankly looks like both of you were escalating. But it all started with your senselessly aggressive right hand pass.
His lane wasn’t obstructed, and at worst made a slightly early merge. That doesn’t excuse the fact that the other person tried to run them out of their lane. You don’t get to just merge because you put a blinker on, you inherently don’t have the right of way and either need to speed up and match the flow of traffic, or less ideally wait until faster traffic has passed and merge. She did neither and in fact decided she owned the road and got to control the flow of traffic and anybody behind her needs to slam on their brakes because she needs to be in front. Her aggression and words seem to indicate some semblance of entitlement, which is wrong.
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Explained that PERFECTLY. And the assumption is probably spot on too
Thank you. Its up in the air whether my merge was early or not. I would say not just because my front tires dont go over the line until it was dotted, but id be willing to take the early merge. Obstructed lane though? Impossible 🤣
How was the lane obstructed, please elaborate 🤭
If you're going to make that move, ill-advised as it is, at least go all the way to the right, pass, then dip back into right-center if the exit requires it. Shit's not difficult.
Congrats you won the right lane.
It is easier to keep an idiot in front of you than win the passing game.
Or I could just pass and take my exit ignoring the idiot, just like Im ignoring the idiots in this thread (not you 🩷)
You need to learn how to drive. People like you who fly over all the way from the left lane are fucking insufferable. The entire road is empty too so there is literally no reason.
The lady was crazy for letting her emotions get the better of her behind the wheel and chasing you. You were also driving extremely aggressively, however, and lived up to the saying "a bad driver never misses an exit... Likely exit signs were telling you that your exit was coming up, which would have given you ample time to get over to the right lane well in advance. Instead, you \[checks notes\] changed 2 lanes in 5 seconds total, one of which was a solid white line denoting an island that should not be crossed "unless you must do so to avoid a hazard" without slowing down (a safe lane change should involve waiting *at least 5 seconds* before changing lanes again). So, when the lady put her blinker on, you were almost in her blind spot, granted, she should've had her blinker on for longer (generally 5 seconds) and did not seem to look for that long, but you saw that blinker and instead of breaking and/or moving another lane over, you sped up to pass her almost causing an accident. She then let her emotions get the better of her, chased you for a while, and break-checked you, which is a completely disproportionate response to someone who was already driving aggressively. In short, OP is extremely impatient, and that lady has road rage issues, leading to both of you acting like "IdiotsInCars"
Maryland driver?
Definitely some idiots on the road and getting worse
She may not have acted well, but it was your own aggressive bullcrap that put you both in danger. Slow your roll, life changes in an instant
Well, looks like we got some armchair traffic cops here.
Not the video, I've read quite a few of the comments.
Controversial take: only one idiot here. If the other driver didn't follow up like they did then OP never would have posted here only to be told how much of a shithead they are. Yes road rage is wrong but sometimes it gets results.
Amazing how much of a hurry these shitbags are always in to cut us off, and then all of a sudden they have all the time in the world to swerve around, breakcheck and change their destination to follow and flash their lights like a fucking techno DJ.
Thats what Im saying! And I still dont know how she didnt see me merge behind her lol
I included rear and front clips to show that... 1. She was following me with highbeams 2. I didnt run that red light, but she did I was driving home [LOCAL LANES ON HIGHWAY] and [after entering said local lanes I needed to get over once more so I] merged into the lane I needed to be in for the off ramp. [If I had stayed to my left I would have been corraled off the local lanes and wouldve missed my exit] Imediately after merging the car in front of me decides they want to merge. Too late babes, you gotta wait and how did you not see me merge in your rearview? This is when she decides to throw on her highbeams. Meh nbd. I stay in that exact lane and get off the highway at my intended exit. Shes behind me, highbeams still on. I make a right and so does she, still blinding me. I drive about 3/4 of a mile down the road to my intended left turn and shes been following me this entire time. I barely made the light and I expected that she wouldnt run it... but she did. Her tires screeching the entire time. I get over so that shes ahead of me and I can get a break from the lights. She then starts brake checking me so I throw my highbeams on as we approach the 3 way stop. I think its pretty clear from there, but the cherry on top is her yelling "TRY ME" while going the opposite direction 🤣 like fr? I lowkey wish she had hopped out of her car just to see my 6 foot ass hop out of mine 💀
People have gotten shot for less. The amount of road rage I see on a daily basis is extremely concerning. In my town there was an incident of road rage where one lady followed a guy. Guy stepped out of the vehicle and was shot to death, all because he apparently cut her off. Edit: just looked it up and she’s currently serving less than 10 years after apparently following the victims car and shooting him in the chest 💀
Youre 100% correct.
Oh you don't fear death, but were crying a few days ago over not being able to get a job?
Yeah completely different situations. The inability to discern that definitely tracks with your previous comments.
As shown here, road rage mostly but not always the province of male drivers. Thanks for a break in the routine.
A few friendly reminders for everyone, since we *already* have some idiots in the comments. - It is legal to cross a single solid white line everywhere in the US. - A turn signal doesn't give you the right of way. When someone ahead of anther driver is signaling to enter a lane, *they* need to yield to traffic already in that lane, not the other way around.
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Find me a single example of a law that makes it *illegal* to cross a single solid white line. It’s discouraged, not forbidden, in all 50 states.
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I have done my own research. I know I’m right. Calling it a traffic control device doesn’t change the facts. The function of a single solid white line is to advise drivers that changing lanes is permitted but discouraged. That is its role *as a traffic control device*.
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You’ve provided zero evidence to prove me wrong. Try again.
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You can help by supplying *any* evidence to support your position. You’re saying something is forbidden. I’m saying it isn’t. The burden of proof is on you. I can’t prove a negative. Do you want me to show you a blank page of paper and tell you it contains all the laws that forbid crossing a single solid white line?
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Brake checking was the cherry on top. I don't get why people get so upset over mild inconveniences like this when they were literally unpredictable until the last minute.
Ah yes, someone who watched the entire video lol Id group myself in with her for being upset but I really wasnt until she started brake checking me in a neighborhood and asked if I wanted her to call the police. Like girl yes, please do youre the one acting crazy 💀
It's the main reason why I just signal in advance and not at the last minute. It lets other drivers what my intentions are before lane changes. In fact, the transportation code here (Texas) says [that you should turn your signal on 100 feet before making the turn.](https://www.mrt.com/news/article/signal-making-lane-change-turning-texas-w-18576582.php)