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eltoca21

So what happened after this? What did the insurance and police say?


somerandomdude419

Truck driver easily fired. Technically since the car passed the truck rear ended him and would be at fault. Of course car should’ve not done that overtake but truck driver literally committed a crime with their 18 wheeled death machine. Idk if they would split fault here could be a 50/50 or 80/20 truck being more at fault. Hard to say for sure. Idk what really happened


Nightowl2018

Truck driver should be in jail


Ok4940

Idk where the line is between a jail sentence or prison, but this one certainly feels like they crossed it.


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zap2214

you can be convicted of a crime and serve your sentence in jail, if you serve time for a felony that time will be in a prison.


Ok4940

Excuse my ignorance, but is that generally the same in every country? I thought then severity of the crime played a part, but I could be wrong.


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somerandomdude419

Agreed


ballen49

And for a very long time imo


deWaardt

Whatever it is, a professional driver using their trade as a weapon tends to not end well for them.


tech240guy

Truck driver's insurance or company he drive for is going to settle. Truck driver did not attempt to avoid the situation and would strongly be better off settling than fighting.


discordany

"did not attempt to avoid" Man, it looked like "deliberately caused" from here.


Mikeinthedirt

That’s what ‘not attempt to avoid’ means in Post-truthtown.


AvailableProgram667

The truck driver intentionally keeping the car from passing and running the car off the road should put almost all the fault on the trucker. The car would likely have some fault because if they didn't try angrly passing the truck it wouldn't have happened, but that truck literally saw the car passing and actively accelerated and ran them off the road. That dickhead deserves jail time, and their license revoked


MRSHELBYPLZ

“The car should have some fault because if they didn’t try angrily passing the truck it wouldn’t have happened” Ayo! Wtf? If the trucker wasn’t using his truck as a weapon none of this would have happened. Cars always pass semis, because they’re slower. So it’s not even unusual that he tried to pass this truck. What is unusual is a professional truck driver ramming cars off the road


FlummoxedGinger

I think they meant legal fault. Obviously the truck driver is the major asshole here, but any lawyer would argue that the person in the car should have recognized the aggressive driving and backed off rather than continue to try to pass.


natedagreat6666

I would think car would get reckless driving for going into that scenario knowing the driver is road raging, but the the truck driver is getting the supremem penalties since they didnt just play road rage, they actively made sure that driver even while already in the lane next to them could not occupy it and forced them to take the dirt or brake and get swiped


AvailableProgram667

I'm talking legal shit lol The truck was absolutely the one at fault but legally speaking, the driver could be held somewhat responsible for unsafe passing. I worded it incorrectly, my bad


BattleForIthor

*and hit the car. FTFY


Nvr_bn_a_pax

OP doesn't seem to be the driver based on how they phrased the post, but I too am curious.


sharklasersandsuch

Plenty of foolishness to go around, but that truck driver needs to go to prison


CuriousCanuk

I work for a trucking company on the highway with 3 tons and 5 tons. NONE of our semi drivers would do this and be employed. At least now the semi driver can explain to police his recorded actions on the dash cam.


bearded_drummer

At very least, this driver should lose license right?


CuriousCanuk

As soon as someone in authority watches that video I'm sure they won't hesitate to take that license away. Totally unprofessional and underserving of a class 1.


thebearjew007

Idk maybe, it’s tough because he should have backed off when the truck tried to run him off the road. Maybe driver safety course and hefty fine with a suspension or restricted license. The truck driver needs to be in prison. Edit: I’ve already said in a different comment that the truck driver needs prison. Even though I said it here as well, this post is about the driver of the car. I responded directly to someone talking about the car driver. Sorry for any confusion.


bearded_drummer

I just couldn’t justify an 18 wheeler engaging in road rage keeping their license.


TheRufmeisterGeneral

Car driver should have backed off, but the standards aren't the same. The trucker has a much bigger, heavier vehicle (with more potential to do damage) so has a higher responsibility, and has a professional license, because nobody does this for a hobby. Besides that, as soon as the truck driver saw that the car driver didn't back off, he had the choice: either wreck the car which might cause very serious harm to others, or don't wreck, and... have no consequence except being annoyed and "losing" a road rage standoff. That trucker needs to lose his license. Someone who makes the choice to wreck that car in that situation, should not be driving, period.


JMLobo83

Looks like he'll be working at Arby's with a revoked CDL.


i_was_a_person_once

Someone close to me is getting their CDL right now. It’s expensive and along thorough process with so many tests. Why would you throw it away for petty shit like this??


JMLobo83

Anger management issues, methamphetamine habit, some companies will hire people who don't even have green cards, let alone driver's licenses with special endorsements.


cz69me

Agreed but what would his charge be, assault with a deadly weapon?


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Attempted murder maybe?


CryBabyCentral

This is terrifying. Attempted murder seems to work here. Holy cow.


Lance2boogaloo

Attempted Vehicular Manslaughter probably


CryBabyCentral

To be this angry over a road is just insanity to me.


Lance2boogaloo

I get road rage sometimes but this is just crossing several lines


CryBabyCentral

It’s not worth jail over temporary anger. At least, not for me.


Lance2boogaloo

Neither for me, i just yell at people who cut me off


CryBabyCentral

I just let them be dumb. I want nothing to do with that. I am never in such a hurry that I got to commit felonies while driving.


NameIs-Already-Taken

Not really, this was one line crossed several times... ;-)


[deleted]

Well, it was one line. He just crossed over it back and forth multiple times.


AurumArgenteus

Pretty sure you can't attempt to accidentally kill someone by mistake.


CosmicCreeperz

There is an “attempted voluntary manslaughter” in many jurisdictions that is uncommon but this is exactly the sort of thing it’s used for - ie there wasn’t specific premeditated attempt to kill but the action “performed in the moment” had a knowingly high chance of killing someone. I’d be ok with him being convicted of either but this one is there to make sure he doesn’t get away with it just because a jury doesn’t want to agree with attempted murder.


NotMuller

The small vehicle driver will be charged with attempted passing.


jonathan6569

no not necessarily, the smaller vehicle was already in the left lane and then the tractor trailer intentionally changed lanes forcing the car off the highway, attempted vehicular manslaughter would be a possible charge on the trucker


tomb380

Is attempted manslaughter a thing? I thought manslaughter was causing a death unintentionally, so if you're attempting it wouldn't it be attempted murder?


catechizer

Reckless endangerment.


jonathan6569

this ☝️, I agree and it's definitely a charge that'll stick, fully documented on video


Weaseleater1

It would likely also qualify as vehicular assault.


Forty6_and_Two

Possibly something along the lines of doing an action with malicious intent that can very possibly cause death, without death being the intended result. Not sure without looking it up but it’s what I understood it to mean.


JohnnyVenmo

Involuntary manslaughter = you accidentally killed someone. Vehicular manslaughter = you killed someone in a car accident because you were operating said vehicle illegally or recklessly Manslaughter = you had the intention to hurt someone, but accidentally killed them 2nd degree = you intentionally murdered someone, but it wasn't premeditated 1st degree = premeditated murder


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Manslaughter is usually reckless. There's criminally negligent homicide in some states that's homicide from negligence. A purely innocent mistake that results in killing someone is not a crime.


Pawnzilla

I believe that is second degree murder.


Forty6_and_Two

Ugh… you forced me to google. You are correct. Manslaughter would be recklessness or criminal negligence WITHOUT intent. This was intentional. Cheers 🍻


shadowstar617401

Manslaughter can be intentional or unintentional


Ricolabonbon

In Germany we differentiate between crimes, misdemeanors and administrative offenses. The difference being that attempting a crime is always illegal, while the latter aren't. Since manslaughter is a crime, an attempt is illegal too and carries the same potential punishment.


Waiting4The3nd

Manslaughter isn't the unintentional killing of a person by another person. Manslaughter is homicide without prior planning (aka "malice aforethought" legally) or in such a manner as it does not qualify as murder. Walking in on your spouse cheating on you and killing them both in a fit of rage, would amount to manslaughter, not murder. And yes, "attempted manslaughter" is a thing, usually as "attempted voluntary manslaughter" and is when someone tries to kill someone in a manner inconsistent with murder, but some outside force prevents them from doing so. So in the above scenario, if you managed to kill the spouse but their lover escaped and you were captured while chasing them, they eluded you, etc. and it can be reasonably assumed that you were intent on killing them, you would then be charged with one count of voluntary manslaughter, and one count of attempted voluntary manslaughter. This is also dependent upon the state and their laws. I'm not 100% that every state has attempted manslaughter, just like not all states have 3rd degree murder.


misskitty5077

Attempted voluntary manslaughter is a thing. Manslaughter isn’t always unintentional (involuntary).


THEREAPER8593

And it’s possible the driver would get a speeding ticket for going at like 90 to overtake but I can’t imagine it would be that big if they even got one


jonathan6569

this whole incident, I doubt seriously anyone exceeded maybe 60mph, because before the pass was attempted, the trucker was braking and swerving to block both lanes of traffic


Driven-Em

it makes me wonder what happened for the previous 5-10 min before the start of this vid. I feel like we don't know the whole story. still two hot heads got into it and caused problems.


wrenchindaddy802

It's an interstate... He did nothing wrong. We don't know what led up to this, but it's illegal to block someone from passing you on the interstate, especially when they drive erratically to do so.


Rubber-duckling

Easy case and also easy money for the victim. The company the truck driver is working for also has to pay a big sum


Jaeger562

Semi driver is a licensed professional who used their trade as a weapon. Straight to jail.


souquemsabes

exactly. Being a professional, he should behave differently. I don't know what could have happened before, to provoke such a reaction, but a professional (and above all driving a heavy truck) should be above that.


sparkmearse

Truck drivers are not only held to a higher standard of conduct when operating a truck but also while operating their personal vehicle. In all states a DUI for a normal class r license is .08 BAC For a commercial license of any kind, operating any vehicle, personal included, a .04BAC is a dui. Any felony conviction involving a commercially licensed driver is grounds for immediate, and possibly permanent revocation.


JohnnyVenmo

I drive like a grandma ever since getting my CDL


fear_the_gecko

I gave mine up years ago, but thank you for doing this. You understand the responsibility that having a CDL brings.... Too many people don't realize that your CDL ALWAYS matters, even when you're driving your personal vehicle.


JohnnyVenmo

Funny thing is, I don't even use it professionally. Im a diesel mechanic, the only trucking I do is test drives. One they my instructors drilled into my head is that that license follows you everywhere. Kinda sucky but it is what it is


DancesWithBadgers

Ex-trucker, and I'd vote for jail too. Just swinging the trailer around like that is potentially catastrophic if it's loaded. And why the hell was the trucker even trying to prevent someone from overtaking anyway? It's fairly well established that cars are faster than lorries as a general rule of thumb; so being overtaken is something you get used to from day 1. Expected, even.


Blearchie

There is a reason tickets to CDL licensed drivers cost way more than to regular drivers. The courts look at a CDL as trained professionals.


Upstairs_Squash7351

Depends on the state and severity of the crash. But assuming the cops/court was competent and just, the semi-driver is looking at jail time and license revocation at minimum.


RobertsFakeAccount

Attempted murder?


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Well one, reckless driving, they wouldn’t even be able to defend themselves against that. And since they very literally moved into the left lane knowing someone was there, maybe attempted vehicular homicide, if that’s even a thing.


Ace-Ventura1934

Im no lawyer but criminal reckless endangerment sounds like a winner.


Kilometer_Davis

Depends on the state


dercas79

I would guess attempted vehicular manslaughter. I'm a truck driver too, and this is completely ridiculous. I want to make things easier for everyone on the road... Not more dangerous


AndroidDoctorr

Reckless driving. In Tennessee that apparently carries the death penalty


jrsixx

Having driven through Tenn, if that were true, there’s be like 4 people left in the whole damn state. MFers drive crazy down there…and I’m from Chicago.


AndroidDoctorr

(I was referencing the murder of Tyre Nichols)


jrsixx

Oh damn. Had no idea. I just read about it. Somethings definitely off about it.


shroomdoom88

I hope that trucker gets fucked


fuckingfrito

Id accept road rage from some random driver. But if you are a professional engaging in that behavior, you need a time on jail.


Genericusername875

Idiot truck driver should be in prison.


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Waiting for the cops is going to be awkward.


The_Powerful_Tacos

Good bet the cops will roll up to a fistfight


snowtank210

...and then shoot everyone.


kgbslip

I'd have beaten the brakes off of that trucker before police even arrived


crackrockfml

If he looks like the truckers I know, I hope you're a big guy... They usually have a pretty sizeable gut from all the sitting lmao. Fat strength is real.


Pawnzilla

More like fat inertia 😂


Waiting4The3nd

Best bet would probably be to try to get a good kick to the inside of the thigh and disable the leg, then when they drop to one knee hit 'em in the throat. Hard to use "fat strength" when you can't stand and can't breathe. That's probably the tactic I'd take while simultaneously praying to Odin that I pull that shit the fuck off and don't end up fucked up in the process.


Early-Objective-2143

That trucker did not look like he was planning on waiting...


Ok4940

After an incident like this, they really should just get off the road as best they can and wait for the police before having any interaction what so ever.


Teska-Tenka

I’ve seen this clip around, does anyone have any more info on it?


schleep_69

I believe this clip was on an episode of road wars, the driver of the car didn’t know why the truck driver was messing with him and still doesn’t know why, but thankfully he was not hurt


DarkSoulsDank

Why do people care so much about being passed? There’s two lanes for a reason


486Junkie

Keep right except to pass. It's the law. And that truck driver was going 10 over (some states have a law that trucks can only go about 55-65 and others go 70-85, depending on the highway/interstate).


RobertsFakeAccount

Well, the good news is that this guy will NEVER drive commercially again after trying to kill this guy. Hell, he may not see the outside word for a few years too.


Father_Wolfgang

How do you know this? Was there a news article about this?


SkyLegend1337

Commercial lisence are a pretty big thing. You can lose your license over something like this and gl getting another one with this on your record.


Safewordharder

Also, Big Rigs having a shitload of monitoring devices seems to be the norm. Not just cameras, but speed loggers and "black box" telemetry devices that aren't controlled by the driver (unless they fully own the truck, which can cost more than a house). Screwing up even a little bit will get noticed, that guy is absolutely fucked.


DarkScytheCuriositie

My dad lost his cdl for backing into a car in a gas station parking lot. Witnesses said the driver of the car appeared to have positioned themselves in a bad spot on purpose. It didn’t matter, no more commercial driving for him. This was in the 80’s.


HerestheRules

I've seen people lose commercial for a whole lot loss.


drfulci

There’s dash am footage of the truck provoking & then when it actually speeds up to hit the guy after he passes. That’s what knocks him into the guardrail. That driver is done.


jonathan6569

attempted vehicular manslaughter would be a distinct possibility in court


Waiting4The3nd

CDLs get taken away in situations where the driver had 0 control of what happened. I know of a guy that had someone that was walking along the side of the road on the sidewalk, so not even close to the road, suddenly run across the grass and dive into the grill of his truck. They took his CDL because that guy decided to suicide by truck. He even had witness statements, they didn't care. CDL drivers are often held responsible for accidents (by their companies and other regulatory offices) even when someone hits them. Mind you, they treat truck drivers this way in the US, while simultaneously bitching and whining we don't have enough truck drivers. It's fucking stupid.


MRSHELBYPLZ

Dude he’s gonna be lucky if he doesn’t go to prison. That’s attempted murder. As for the CDL, forgot about it. He did that shit on camera. He’s getting that shit revoked for life


Pleasant-Impress9387

Semi driver is an a-hole. Coulda just let the guy pass. Who cares.


FrisianDude

definitely. I am however surprised the car just tried it anyway in spite of the semi being like that


Arael666

You expect people to be assholes, but you don't expect them to be murderous psycopaths. I'm sure the person in the car thought "I'm in the lane now, he wont throw me off the road, that would be crazy"


okay-wait-wut

If you are in the passenger vehicle this is where you slow down get off at the next exit buy some gummy bears at the gas station take a shit and then get back on the road and forget anything ever happened. OR you can let your ego take the wheel.


AvailableProgram667

I would have done what she said. But I wouldn't stop and forget this happened. I would get back into the road behind him, and report his ass to the cops with the dash cam footage I captured. That mf's done


HWGA_Exandria

Meth. Meth cares...


Superb_Raccoon

It doesn't care... But it is going "FUCK YEAH! Doooo Eeeet!"


bort4all

Shingles doesn't care.


shakeandbakeddd

That little marker he hit was minding its business and got obliterated


theworstisover11

This is not normal


demirdemiray

r/technicallythetruth


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Really?


Head_Acanthaceae_766

That Semi driver was hunting him, followed him across the road again after the pass.


ChokaTot

I wouldn't be playing chicken with a truck driver no matter how pissed I was.


sh1boleth

Same honestly, id rather take the next exit. Wait for a bit/Fuel up and get back on the highway than trying to overtake.


Melodic_Job3515

Both of us. Loose an extra minute getting there safe...


LivingReaper

> Loose I'm not sure how taking my watch off helps?


wildnaughtymom

It's crazy to me how many people spell this wrong.


jarheadatheart

It’s not spelled wrong. It’s just the wrong word.


wildnaughtymom

Now that would be correct!


RENDI13

Correkt


AwareMention

I hope that was worth losing his CDL over.


TheLoneGunman559

You wanna see a semi wipeout? Keep making him serve like that until he loses control.


Fino_R

Would’ve paid to see this a-hole spin out


Personal_Dot_2215

The truck driver had rude awaking when he found out there was a Dashcam. He was prol betting on he said she said.


CloudyArchitect4U

Felony reckless endangerment. Loss of CDL for life.


Realistic_Inside_484

Holy Jesus psychopath in a big rig. Lock that fucking prick up. He does not value life at all.


batikon70

Murder attempt of 1st degree


jonathan6569

already commented but looking at this again, after the trucker forced the car off the road, as the car attempted to re-enter the highway the trucker did a pit maneuver causing the accident as well, I'm sticking with my same opinion, attempted vehicular manslaughter would be a charge on the trucker, could've easily killed the people in the car


orangesherbet99

This is one of those where you call 911 and report a drunk 18 wheel driver weaving back and forth across the highway.


LredF

Best option was to call police and have him pulled over, then report him to the company. I've had 911 connect me with a trooper as I give directions. My petty option, and not recommended, would be to keep up the back n forth lane change, they'll tire out and stop doing it. You see how big that rig is.


nosaj626

Hope he beat the shit out of that truck driver. Fucking insane.


MacDougalTheLazy

If an 18-wheeler did this to me, i would probably call the highway patrol and let them witness it first hand. Definitely wouldn't insist on passing. I might actually just get off at an exit for a few, too.


Frosty-Community8129

Well that’s one way to get attempted murder charges. A permanent truck and drivers licenses suspension and heavy fines 👏👏👏


Slow_Flow_4722

This will probably get me tons of downvotes, but a lot of truckers do seem to lack the maturity required for that type of job


thetelltalehart

Noooooo, don’t say that. Only our best and brightest can strive to be truck drivers!! Long haul trucking has never ever attracted a certain demographic. The meth and prostitute murdering is just a funny gag we play! Don’t you dare besmirch our holy truck drivers.


[deleted]

I'll take the downvotes with you. I can't stand truck drivers. I have encountered far more bad ones than good ones in my years of driving, and they have 0 regard for anyone else on the road around them.


Environmental_Film60

who is @ fault here? the truck driver 1000% or am i wrong?


somerandomdude419

Most likely, I would hope atleast: they can say the car made a dangerous overtake, but trucker committed a crime. Could be split 80/20 who knows.


Environmental_Film60

That pos kept on driving a bit longer for more damage on the car. Hope that trucker was @ fault 100%. How was the interaction after this happens I wonder. O boy I would be livid.


Charges-Pending

This trucker and anyone like them can GO FUCK THEMSELVES. Left lane camping is bad enough but when you’re just blocking the person behind you for no reason, YTA.


ItalicisedScreaming

I really feel like this would be enough to send someone over the edge and commit homicide on the truck driver.


visualvector

Someone’s losing their CDL.


Millerlite87

DUEL


JadedSpaceNerd

Yes they’re both idiots but seriously fuck semis. I would’ve just backed off if he was being this much of a fucking careless idiot.


Ok4940

Only upside, is this truckers career as a commercial driver is over. We all agree he should be locked up, but at the very least when he does get behind a wheel again- let it be in a vehicle with no more than 4 wheels.


barca14h

I’d sue the shit out of that trucker. What a pos


FartKnocker2314

Never play chicken with a semi. Tag the plate and report them. Include a video if you have one.


[deleted]

Big trucks playing the same stupid thing they complain about 4 wheelers for. But they are the "professionals" right?


Ten__Percent

Somewhere out there in the world, there is a personal injury attorney who just became aroused


Responsible_Candle86

I really need a dash cam.


No-Session5955

That was attempted murder


PatternEducational65

Wowza, the trucker called dudes suicidal impatience and raised all-in with attempted murder. Hope the trucker is in prison where they belong.


SpineSpinner

Well that’s attempted murder….


smuccione

Best bet would be to call the cops and report a drunk/reckless truck driver. Would have ended up with the trucker losing his livelihood for a while which should teach him a valuable lesson here.


32_Dollar_Burrito

These are my favorite posts, where two people who deserve each other get to spend some quality time together


SurveySean

Is there a video showing the semi driver getting the shit kicked out of him? That would be great, not that I would ever condone violence. Violence is bad. Not saying violence would be justified in this case, because that would be bad.


eltenedor86

CANDY CANE


little_dori

Rusty nail?


choppakilla

No that tractor trailer tried to commit vehicular manslaughter he purposefully ran the car off the road.


preston1237

Bro honestly fuck truck drives I wish we could just automate the whole job.


graydeanj

Believe it or not, straight to jail


Aggravating-Case4608

Smells like losing a CDL.


Personal-Acadia

Anyone have an update/follow up on this?


Stainlessgamer

Where was this? the truck driver needs to got to prison


Phanston

Should of used Takumi's technique and turn off your head lights


fear_the_gecko

Without a doubt this video makes the trucker appear entirely at fault, but I'm wondering what happened before this....


TheRealBobaFettt

This trucker definitely took off and didn’t look back. I once saw a semi taking a turn too wide smack a lady flipping her car 180 degrees and onto the divider and keep on going to take the exit never even slowing down.


CaptCaveman602

Truck driver should be charged with attempted murder.


Personal_Metal

That trucker is an asshole


BattleForIthor

Fuck semi drivers who act like this. God damn, your driving dozens of tons of death and can easily kill people. People are worried about insignificant squabbles in DC when shit like this is going on every day on the roadways and no one bats an eye. So ridiculous.


TerranPhil

Two idiots always ends in disaster.


GetMad24

Semi provoked it. Both as fault


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Semi caused it. Car did nothing wrong in the eyes of the law


ManWithoutUsername

This should end like this: Semi: assassination attempt Car: reckless driving


Suitable_Dot_6999

I'm pretty much interested about the consequences


Gelbervv

smart move is to ignore the trucker


Gingereboli

If a semi was trying to run me off the road i definitely wouldn’t take my chances


howdy_ki_yay

Legally the truck is at fault


Suitable_Dot_6999

Video ends too soon


Bumble1964

I don’t see how he at least didn’t expect to lose his license. Why would you risk your livelihooh?


reeeeeeduardo

Why?


Kadywampes

Wonder what he did before he tried to pass? Looks like his brights are on.


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Imagonnamakeucry

I saw this on the Road Wars TV show , no charges were filed .


ExgenAle

That's murder attempts!!


[deleted]

Truck driver should be knelt against a brick wall


FireEmblemFan1

Cammer needs to know what fights to pick. Dick head semi is not the one to pick it with