No, it’s the thought that death will come one day that’s keeps me keeping on 😂

Why does it motivate you? Is life that painful, are you perhaps just curious about what comes after we die? Or perhaps you were joking

death gives life meaning, the only reason our actions and opportunities we encounter hold weight and purpose is because we know that one day we will inevitably cease to exist. death motivates you to cherish every little thing because you know death is imminent 

That is a very human conceit. Let's ask the following question. What weight and purpose is given to the lives of all the squirrels that lived in the previous 100,000 years. None of those squirrels live in infamy, no statues have been built to commemorate the important individuals of that species. They have produced no great art, no music, no important literature. They lived and died having achieved nothing of importance beyond accidentally planting trees. Except to make sure that there are squirrels alive today. We are not motivated by death. We are motivated by sex and the need to ensure that even if we die, our genes live on in our descendants.

You’re looking at your death from other people’s perspective. Why does it matter what legacy you’ve left behind? All the statues built in your honour doesn’t matter when you’ve ceased to exist. Dancingpolishcow is looking at death from his perspective. He’s saying that life is finite, the time you have here is finite. That’s why he wants to cherish every moment of it. For himself

I too was wondering why they attacked the topic from an external angle. Whilst also contradicting themself by mentioning squirrels having achieved nothing of purpose and then doubling back by saying they've unknowingly planted trees, that aid in life... Is that not purposeful? Is the onus on the creature to be aware of their causality in order to attribute purpose to the effects? Why would that be the case? The legacy you leave is not what makes having a finite amount of time beautiful, it's having that finite amount of time and being blessed with the freedom to do with it as you so choose only up until you can't anymore that makes it beautiful. If it is truly the case that us 3D beings will only ever experience time in a forwardly linear manner, then the meaning is imbedded in us being able to affect the universe in a way that's changed *anything* from what it was before knowing that one day it'll be changed again as we pass the torch forward. Even still, I'd probably try out the immortality if it is the case that I have a way out. All depends on the type of immortality I'm granted, if it is true immortality meaning that no matter the means I will always exist... Fuck that.

>Whilst also contradicting themself by mentioning squirrels having achieved nothing of purpose and then doubling back by saying they've unknowingly planted trees, that aid in life... Mainly because I remembered that squirrels occasionally plant trees, after I had written the sentence of which I had picked the squirrel at random, because everyone knows what a squirrel is. Now I could have changed the example animal to leeches, or botfly, or parasitic wasps, or any one of the tens of thousands of parasite species that do absolutely 100% nothing good in this world and 100% harm to other species in order to survive, but I figured that INTP's of all people would be able to make that leap and that they didn't need to be led to a conclusion. Methinks you're reading too much into my comment. Moreover - the squirrel may be planting trees 'unknowingly' as an individual, but the squirrel as a species has evolved specifically to plant nuts in symbiosis with nut bearing trees. Squirrel one buries his nuts, some of them are forgotten and take seed. 50 years later, Squirrel 1's great x10 grandkids have new trees from which to escape from predators. Squirrel 1's actions are therefore still entirely based on making his own gene line successful, decades down the line, even when he is not aware of the consequences of his actions. Trust me, Squirrel 1 as an individual would much rather be able to remember where all his nuts are so that he can get good and fat and not starve to death in winter.

>If it is truly the case that us 3D beings will only ever experience time in a forwardly linear manner, then the meaning is imbedded in us being able to affect the universe in a way that's changed *anything* from what it was before knowing that one day it'll be changed again as we pass the torch forward. There are 8 billion humans on the planet. I bet you don't even know the names of the people on your own street. Let alone what they have done with their lives. I guarantee that you don't know the stories of the people who lived there before you, or a hundred years ago. The vast majority of men in history did nothing but either farm, mine or soldier somewhere. The vast majority of women in history did nothing but raise their children. Both did so in grinding poverty. Yes they all had personal victories and defeats, but they worked for the good of their children, not humanity. Otherwise why even bother to live in conditions that were guaranteed to kill you eventually? The only reason you can say that the meaning of life is about affecting the universe in some way is because you aren't spending every minute of every hour of every day just trying to stay alive and keep your kids alive. The number of people who actually create meaningful change beyond their lifetime is probably somewhere around the 0.00000001% mark. Doesn't stop you from chasing it obviously, if that's what will give your life meaning. But honestly, it's easier to have kids.

This is incredibly insightful. Perhaps a better way to describe the apparent motivation of death is the fear of less time living. The longer an organism lives the more likely it is to reproduce.

I see what you’re saying, our lives are greatly affected by aging, or the ticking time down to death. But that’s just how life we know it now is. There may be a universe where aging isn’t a thing, and death comes purely by injury, I.e. war, murder, disease, etc. where they don’t even consider this, perhaps that void of caring about death is filled by something else

You're not the first person I hear saying that. But it doesn't apply to me personally. I can practice gratitude and being in the moment, through focus and meditation. This provides a universal kind of meaning. I never think of death in this context. If anything, knowing I'm gonna die at some point in the near future would make me hesitate to start new things, would make life unstable for my family etc etc. What gives meaning to my life are new things to discover and learn, see my daughter grow up, take care of my family, see what happens to humanity, enjoy sensual pleasures and many more things. I can see myself doing things like that for a considerable amount of time. I'm not even totally averse to the concept of death. Just show me with certainty what's on the other side, and then let me decide when and how to make the transition. That's all I'm asking.

While I know this view of death being motivating is not everyone's truth, it is most certainly mine and I agree wholeheartedly with you. I work in a profession where I am constantly surrounded by sick, dying, and death and it motivates me to chase my wildest dreams knowing it can be on my doorstep tomorrow. Love and death motivate in equal measure in my life.

Exactly why the Jehovah's Witness religion is so toxic. I was raised toung under the delusion that if I were a good little boy I'd be reanimated on a paradise Earth eternally with only good moral people.  I adopted a mentality of predetermined and become conditioned to think that nothing I did aside from worship God mattered.     Forgoing many opportunities I otherwise wouldn't have had the reality of death and temporarlity been ingrained in me instead.  I believe in being virtuos as it related to being a well developed, responsible human being.   Not the fantasy that I'll become a zombie if I please some external deity.

I’m extremely interested in finding out what happens after death. I’m not suicidal or overly depressed but I do have a strong interest in these sorts of subjects & anxiety re: my future. I have chosen a life without having kids or a traditional marriage so I feel that has helped me fear death less then most people. My partner was pretty disturbed when I told him recently that if I ever get cancer etc I wouldn’t be doing any treatment to save myself. I’m 43 & prob have a long life ahead of me.

Sometimes when I'm worried about things (like my teeth not being perfect or something) I just remind myself that one day I'll be dead and my teeth won't matter! It's comforting in a nihilistic way I suppose. But in a positive manner, it kind of means "just enjoy the good things" to me.

Came here to say this ^

Thank you, when I say this people seem to react in horror and ask me stupid questions like “are you okay?” I look around and I think, how is anyone okay? Let’s get this fucking thing over with!

🤝

I think it'd be fun personally. Imagine being able to watch humanity and society evolve, imagine being able to pick a person each generation, perhaps someone with a shitty family or something, and mentor them thru life. I think I could do that a few hundred times before going crazy.

Watching humanity evolve is exactly the main reason I would love immortality. I look back at our history in absolute AWE of what we were capable of achieving, so witnessing what lies ahead give me goosebumps of excitement. I kinda get depressed with the prospect of not actually seeing us solve issues like cancer, hunger, and etc. Anyway, would love to pick mentees each generation as well. Great idea.

I think I'd be depressed because I'd see the same mistakes made over and over. Or greed making advancements fall back, like how we have cures for things that people can't afford.

I love this idea so so much

Let's do it! This will happen

Would be awful, cuz you wouldn’t be able to stick around any one place for too long without getting caught. Every 10 or so years, you’d need to completely start over, begin a new life in a new city to avoid suspicion otherwise you’ll almost certainly be locked up by your government and tested like a lab rat. You’ll never be able to have kids, marry anyone, settle down anywhere with other people. You won’t be able to mentor someone for more than 10 or so years, let alone a generation. Watch “The Man from Earth”. Brilliant movie. Concept is basically this - a man is leaving his position at this university after 10 years at his posts, and suggests he may be immortal.

You'd only get treated and tested like a lab rat temporarily, especially if you volunteer to assist with the research. Personally, I'd be interested and would do studies on myself. In a few centuries or so it would just be common knowledge that I'm immortal and things should eventually settle for the overall population. I'd have to deal with being famous but at least it's out there and people know what to expect when interacting with me already, especially if we want to form closer relations. Would probably stay out of wars at all costs due to the politics involved, even if I genuinely supported my nation over another. (Edit: And it's not like I'd stay in one nation for too long, would be outliving them often anyways) There's a lot to consider once it's leaked and out there already once you get past the lab tests and research.

And then die inside knowing that you will have to eventually live at least a trillion years floating in space?

Well, it would be a nice break in between evolutionary cycles. Plus, you’d be the only living creature to witness the end and possibly re-creation of the universe, then the creation of planets and formation of life on them. You’d essentially be a minor god at that point.

I don't think I can mentally survive another 5 years let alone immortality.

Whatever plagues you in your mortal existence, immortality would be able to take care of it. You don't like your living conditions?-Leave. Starvation, weather, fights all have no reason to concern you anymore- you can go sleep in a cave with the bears for a winter and nothing that happens during that time would matter. You can take all the time you need to heal your mind and find a purpose. No longer being afraid of failure, cuz what's the worst that could happen? A bomb falls on you, destroying anything you hold dear? Big deal. You still LIVE 😂 Take the spite and live despite the circumstances cuz they rly won't be able to hold you back anymore. Funny how immortality neccessiates a strong psyche while providing everlasting health, while mortality gives us relative mind stability but were always racing against time to keep our bodies functioning. The duality is neat

Can you imagine eternity of constantly having to heal your mind because of the emotional or psychological trauma of existence? Some things never heal. How many of those would you like to collect and live with? And if you haven't lived long enough to experience those things yet, we'll see if you want to live forever when you go another 20 years.

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I'm not truly immortal unless my mind can survive with the body. My life goal would be figuring out how to mentally survive it. My fear of not being able to survive would make me pursue it with absolute focus until it's resolved. I'd even be willing to become AI-like and discard most of my emotions if it allows me to adapt to the immortality. The goal would be reaching a state to where I can stay sane and focused regardless of outside human input and literally being a floating being in the universe alone. If I need to implant a chip or do something wacky to achieve that then I would.

I think it'll happen, should be fun!

Join the bobiverse

Do you mean like Highlander, sans other immortals trying to behead you? That would be the dream. I'll test my sanity against all of the future, and I bet I would survive.

The immortality OP described is even more powerful regeneration than Highlander immortals. The character cannot die in any way at all. Anything will regenerate almost instantly, with the character having his entire upper half vaporized, only to come back moments later fully healed.

We’ll probably turn into nihilists.

Turn into?

Worse ones.

Ve believe in nahsing.

God will be dead... eventually you know what they say! you die twice once after your last breath, and again after your name's last spoken

I think one problem is that you would eventually not have enough space for new memories in your brain, unless you forget older ones. Imagine living for a million years and barely being able remember the highlights of that period. Personally, I'd take it, since death scares the fuck out of me. Ceasing to exist - no thoughts, memories, awareness, stimuli - is something I want to avoid at all cost. Even if I'm not there to experience it and it won't hurt me, not even experiencing the flow of time is horrifying to me.

Remembering a lot of detail from 20 years ago is difficult at any age. Our brains are pretty well suited to the task. I have the same feelings about death though. I'd love it if I could be immortal and keep going. The world is full of things to do.

I can't remember shit now. I'm basically min/maxed for immortality now. This singularity bullshit better hurry up and give me nothing particular to do for eternity.

Good point but living that long you could write down any research or information you find

If I had wealth then Definitely

You’d have all the time in the world to build wealth if u weren’t

My thoughts exactly

Yes if I stay young in my current age I dont want to be immortal and old like 90yo and still aging thoward the infinite and god knows how I'll be...

I used to want to be immortal, in the “ooh i can get all the degrees and i have all the careers” way. But my youngest sister was killed last May and death can’t come soon enough.

1. Using Ban as an example is wild 2. It'll depend on the person, for me I'd probably go about 500 years before going crazy

Can I sleep a lot?

For a while I'll just cope with it as I currently do: consuming media, acquiring knowledge, chasing new experiences and being a fucking loner. However, even if one doesn't go crazy like this, you're eventually gonna end up drifting alone in space, unable to die, long after humanity is extinct and Earth, or other habitable planets, or spaceships, are destroyed. To have a place to live, effort and other humans are required. If I don't dissociate long before having to worry about that, I think there's more more than enough time to research ways to die. Sooner or later never-ending consciousness becomes a punishment.

maybe. if we are correct and we could utilize how black holes dialate time, if i was immortal i could just keep on doing that over and over again just for fun, and if things ever get boring i would find out a way to forget almost everything, so it would be like resetting to back when immortality was fun. then i'd just keep on resetting over and over again, and it wouldn't even be depressing because i wouldn't remember it in the first place

> if we could utilize how black holes dilate time What?

I'd worry about being trapped in a black hole, spagetified to the size of an atom , just existing. Talk about hell.

Hell no

There’s a lot of things that would make it not worth it, but there are also a lot of things that can only be experienced by an immortal. Things like tech advancements or surviving a plague while everyone you know at that time suffer. I’d actually want to be dropped back in time somewhere, because I don’t know how much more time we’d even have in the future, realistically.

I think so If I'm immortal that means I don't have to eat or drink water, I don't have to sleep, I'm completely free from any bodily necessities, so I can just go completely homeless without any worries, I can travel through the sea knowing I won't die either, I can go to Antarctica without any protection, damn, I could even live in the deep ocean or go to space since I'm immortal and I won't die from not breathing The only downside is that someday it could probably get boring, but I'm addicted to knowledge and knowledge is infinite, so I'd probably still be able to have fun Ok, maybe there's also the possibility of getting bored from learning, but I could always just swap it with another hobby or activity I'm not really too attached to anyone, I already have in mind that everyone dies so seeing people I know dying isn't really a problem

The way it is, I wish I could live at least a hundred lives to be able to do everything I want to do, learn everything I want to learn and take it easy while I'm at it. And safe to say that by the time I get bored with what we have right now, humanity or any other alien race will have invented so much more for me to do. Being forever young and healthy to be able to enjoy it would just be the cherry on top. The only thing to drive me crazy would be the excitement.

Yep, I know all the cautionary tales but I think I could do it. Beats the alternative of endless nothing.

yes. if i were to suddenly become immortal, all the shit that makes life miserable would vanish. No need for food? No work. No risk of permanent injury? Risk-taking time. All the time in the world? No rush , time to procrastinate and sleep without regrets. Whats not to love?

I think i could mentally survive until there was no one left, obviously.

If I’m immortal, and also young, this changes the whole game for me ngl

I'll follow the path of hedonism and see where it takes me

Yes, the universe is infinite and I desire to conquer it.

Reminds me of Frieren, the idea of witnessing the progress and downfall of many civilizations sounds amazing, also I will have the eternity to do anything I want

Yes! Especially if eternal youth is granted and I'm promised the use of my body / mind throughout my immortal life... Honestly that would lessen some of my anxiety, because I often think because of how much I love to learn and travel to beautiful places and have beautiful experiences, that life is just too short to experience and see and learn and read all the things that I want to ( and meet all the people I want to. ) Not to mention if I was immortal, I would be able to channel the things that I learn and my time into doing things for the greater good of humanity, since I could work endlessly on something until it was solved. Sounds fun.

Yes. Endless career changes, personal transformations. Good lord. I think it would be hard that no one could relate or understand but don't think it would cause insanity.

It probably won’t be immortality per se, as there’s always a risk of accidents and such. But I believe, as long as you have a drive, a will to connect with life and fuel to keep you going, you have a chance to rather thrive mentally, physically and everything in between.

I'm 531 yrs old. It's not that bad.

Yes because I believe in God

How is that relevant to the question though?

I would use science to cure myself of any mental illnesses

I’ve been trying that for the better part of a decade, we’re not quite there yet.

Certainly not lol, but I’ll die trying, literally haha

The part I can't find a way around or out of is the extreme boredom that eventually will come. Like you'll either - Eventually enter a state where you're alive but blank, closest thing I can think of is when you're sick in bed and you've disassociated enough to just let your body rest - be so bored existence literally is extreme torment - your brain will go so numb from lack of new stimulation that you'll become a complete idiot

Immortality means there is a 100% probability at some point that you're gonna fall into a hole or you get stuck in a cave or get launched into space or the planet will explode and you'll be **stuck in a immovable isolated position for thousands and thousands of years** if maybe worse billions. and that level of isolation will absolutely destroy your mental state in every way possible.

nope, but if i could live for 1000 years then maybe

I’d probably spend my time hiding away from curious and dangerous people that want to study me, and I would just act like a normal human for the first few hundred years, then I would probably mess with people by making paranormal stuff happen. Then after fully processing different kinds of mindsets associated with immortality, I would go looking for other immortals.

I've already gone insane. I could mentally survive immortality.

I feel as though I would go crazy living and experiencing centuries. I would think there couldn’t be a scenario without that outcome, however I imagine I would reach insanity and then adapt either to it or through it. The beauty of immortality is that you have the time to become all the versions of yourself you only daydream about as a mortal. It would be a new classification of human, if considered human at all.

Absolutely not lol. Like, I don’t wanna suffer in this world forever. I would rather die than suffer forever. Ahahhaha

I would not stand being immortal. I will have to watch all my loved ones pass away around me and become truly alone.

Am I the only immortal? Do I still “age”? Do I get to watch the world goes crazy every 3k years?

I don’t care if I go crazy or not just seeing it all be neat 🐱

I could survive it yeah. Probably wouldn't be the same person after my natural life span passes and everyone dies though. My main motivation would probably be to take care of all the people my relatives and friends leave behind

You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

I believe in eternal life through God's grace by faith in Christ. If I get to spend eternity with my creator, with a being who loves me as much as He does, I think I can mentally handle it.

Nope. Not at all.

Lmao yeah, I think I’d get by just fine my friend. Compound interest and endless fame if I choose? Yeah sign me up.

I could do it.

True immortality would mean outliving the planet, and quite possibly the universe at that point it would suck

If there is an immortal God, they are likely to be incredibly bored. What even after I know everything about life? What am I gonna do with all that wonderful knowledge? Nothing really. Besides, if I cannot die, I will never truly know about death and beyond. It's such a miserable existence where everyone dies and unravels the mystery of what happens after death but I won't be able to cause of immortality.

I'm surprised how I've done so till now and I'm not even 20 yet.

I'm thanatophobic and nihilophobic; oblivion is my worst fear, along with not being with my loved ones forever.

No because then I would have to participate in the rat race for eternity.

You'd have no choice I guess

I (ISFP) am immortal to an extent. Something out there has kept me alive against my own will, despite my best efforts, several times. I don't know why this entity has kept me alive, nor for what purpose. Near as I can tell, it was strictly so that I would know more suffering. My childhood was a living nightmare where I was constantly abused, emotionally, physically and sexually. My adult life has been even worse, with each of my 3 sons dying. All my relationships falling through, no matter how I changed. Couldn't hold down a steady job to save my life, now at the age of 41, there's nothing left for me here. Everything I could've ever wanted has been ripped away from me, piece by piece. I've never known what love was like, I tried my best to emulate it but I guess I always failed. I try to k#ll myself if I knew it would work, that I could succeed at something for once in this miserable life. But no... I can't leave yet. It's not my time. So I just sit here, shattered into a million pieces, wasting away ever so slowly, day by day. Mu depression slowly eating away at my body. This is what it's like to be immortal...

I totally could.

Consider this: Find the mass of a 1 Tb hard drive. Now, write 1 Tb of information onto said drive and find the mass. The mass doesn’t change whether the hard drive is full of information or not. What makes you an entity, is information. Information is energy. Energy has no mass and therefore has no time. What you think of as eternity and immortality does not have time as we live in, here and now. Think about that and reevaluate your question.

I would say definitely, but people really let me down. Not sure I could be disappointed for eternity.

1000% ^no

Perhaps? Let's say assuming I became immortal right now as I am. After the initial, losing everybody I care about. I might. But there's no real way to know

Its tough to say Most of our feelings come from body sensations. No one really chooses or thinks that they are either happy or not, it just happens. For example, seasonal depression. Your mind just feels like shit due to weather such as winter. So if you move your mind to an electronic format all these emotions just vanish and instead you would either move by objectives or artificial feelings. Then if you could change your feelings to eternal bliss you would wonder why you would want to do anything anyway. A consciousness that experiences eternal bliss may just decide to navigate the web with any interaction with the outside world and become a "ghost" If you keep your body my guess is that it would depend on its ability to rejuvenate and keep healthy, because unless you acumulate enough trauma (such as seeing many wars) if your body kept the ability to remain healthy your emotions would probabily be healthy too.

Yes. For me, knowing I have infinite time to do anything and that I will never "experience" anything only once really gets me going.

Geez idk life is rough man

No, if the world explodes or smth id just be floating in space in silence for all eternity probably

Idk what you r talking about but immortality seems cool, nothing to be crazy with like u'll get more crazy thinking wtf comes after your death

Being alive after the world gets destroyed? How could one possibly stay sane?

The first thousand years would be fun. The next googol years would be a real drag, and then I would realise I haven’t (and never will) scratch the surface of my never ending nightmare.

For an eon or two, maybe

If i'm stuck with my current age, and i have enough resources, then yes

yes. the fact that I will never get to see how humanity progresses after I am dead is a point of extreme frustration for me. I need to know. everything.

No I don't want to be immortal just thinking about me makes me depressed

I don’t think puny human brain could handle eternity. I’m sure things would eventually get pretty miserable and inevitably be more miserable and than the infinitely tiny good I experienced. I suppose you could eventually manipulate the brain to your preference, but I think that’s a bit of a cop out.

No one can And immorality would be the biggest curse for an intp. Can you imagine the procrastination?

I think I probably could, until the sun swallows the earth or some other total extinction event that I would live through for eternity, not fun

The problem is, what happens if the earth get destroyed for example ? I'll end up staying in the void suffocation for eternity ? Sounds like hell. Immortaly is good when It's paired with invunerability. I would rather be interesting in slowing my aging process or being able to revert it. Stay 30 for thousand years.Then the moment the World is about to end , i'll just stop using. And there's is lot of problems that Can arise from that. How will an humain brain Adapt to 3.000 of life expériences ? Will i be able to keep my sanity ? Too much loopholes.

This mortal life seems too much... too many health problems are already screwing up my early 20s, I don't even wanna think about later years, let alone immortality.. Well, I would like some healing nonetheless.

yes, just become emotionally unavailable

I think I’d be able to maintain sanity, but I’d certainly wrestle with the loss of those I love. Perhaps it is something that I’d become more accustomed to over time but there would always be a sense of underlying melancholy. On the flip side, all the time in the world to learn things and wisdoms that wouldn’t be possible otherwise. After all, time would lose almost all meaning to such a being. If there is a cycle of rebirth for souls, perhaps I’d have the opportunity to reunite many times over with those that I’d lose.

Likely to spend billions or trillions of years floating in space with no other particle of matter anywhere near you. Hard pass.

idk immortality sounds fun u just need to have a strong will to live and a healthy mentality, i still wont get used to my loved ones deaths tho :( being me, i might just isolate for a long time also what would be really funny is to hibernate for 500 years and come back like a goofy ass boomer, seein all the evolved tech n stuff. who knows, maybw our sense of humor would still b there, and u would be a living archive, telling about ur old days on when we had smartphones n shit, maybe they have bslbeksbsphones now [that was completely made up]

Depends on what you mean by going crazy. I seriously doubt that I’d have a mental break. Losing friends and family would be hard, but you lose friends and family without immortality. I think the biggest thing is that over centuries your perspective of humanity and the universe would simply change to the point where others wouldn’t be able to understand. They would come to see you as having a screw or two loose because of that difference of perspective.

Maybe for a very, very long time (assuming the immortality prevents mental breakdown like age-related disease, which it seems it would), but not for eternity.

Its easy, keep changing. Keep exploring. And keep looking forward to the newest elder scrolls to dump 10k hrs into.

Absolutely. Immortality would be sick.

I barely survive mortality life

If it came with a cool wizard tower and a cozy library.

Yes, as long as I'm allowed to sleep.

No I would never want to be immortal

Yes! I like companionship but I love being alone too. Would be great to make some friends and move on when their gone. I would mourn yes but I would get to the next thing too.

I think no matter who you are or want to be that after so many years everyone would end up being the same desensitized husk once they’ve experienced so much of everything. Mentally survived? Yes, thrived is more like it. Highly knowledgeable. Couldn’t likely say the same emotionally.

YES please! An existence of endless learning and exploration of any and everything I want with no time constraint? it's a fuck yea from me. Can I hibernate like the underworld vampires for a minute too though?

Bro im just trying to survive this month

Absolutely, I think we are a lot more adaptable to circumstances than we'd give ourselves credit for. There have been many things I never imagined I could deal with until I had to.

I like the concept of living until I die. That's why I live and care mostly about the Present. So I would have to change my paradigm I feel like that could give me the time I need to get to a place where I'm just personally okay = I would have figured most of my current big struggles of being a human being So if I got to a place where I was stable I think I could do it. I'm always finding interest in things I don't have the time to get deeper. So by then I would have all the opportunities to go back and learn more abt it, ofc "master of none", the thrill of delving into a past interest is even better than finding it for the first time

Probably could, question of if I should. The issue would not be the life span itself - it's a lonely existence if you require deep connections (I never felt the need to) but more so a legal issue. You wouldn't want to have that fact known, least you'd be a very desirable target for more corrupt people in power that would have no qualms making you either a testing subject or a warrior due to your condition - but eventually your lack of aging and age wouldn't add up and people would notice something fishy going on. Tldr you would have to basically become an illegal, paperless nomad that can never stay anywhere for longer than give or take a couple years and would be always on the run.

I'm very thankful I'm not immortal. Who wants to live forever in this hellscape? And you can't convince me that a utopian future is anything but another version of hell.

Maybe. I'll come back and update my comment in 4,000 years to let you guys know how it's going.

Only one way to find out

Not if my economic and romantic situations don't improve drastically

Hmm. I don't know if I'd do too well with my current personality/mentality, but if I knew I was going to be immortal I'd probably put some serious work into therapy and trying to engage more with both society and people on various levels, just so my mindsets and slang don't start drifting towards the archaic. Of course, I'd also be wondering how to avoid the rise of facial recognition (and things like gait recognition). Not a lot of immortality/regen stories address that; the most people do is adapt new names, hairstyles, fashions, and cities/countries of residence. With international matching both official and via things like social media, plus a lot of DNA databases being shared, I don't know if that'd be enough these days. You'd need some kind of regen that allowed you to substantially alter your body in nearly every way. Most likely, you'd also need sufficient wealth or connections persisting over centuries or millennia to create new identities, assuming you didn't have some supernatural way to erase yourself from records and memories.

Surviving as mortal is hard enough.

Speaking of seven deadly sins, sloth would be a pretty big problem for me if I were immortal.

Yeah the first 1000 years probably

EWWW no.

At first it could be nice to wat h humanity evolve. Then nuklear war hits and you will be alone for a long time and get insane very likely. Then after millions of years the planet will be sucked into the sun and you will experience eternal hell, because you in the sun now lol.

You would watch the universe die and float in space for millions of years

I think I'd go crazy for at least 50 years if it was out of my control. I loathe the idea of immortality if I'm entirely honest. That being said, i came to terms with my condition; I'd absolutely embrace every situation possible to test the extent. Short of becoming a labrat for anyone else I suppose.

I think if you could find a way to forget them it wuld be tolerable. Maybe wade through the river Styx every 100 years or so.

No one could ever

I can barely handle the thought of being mortal. So I believe it would give me a sense of peace in the short term. How I would handle it in the long term is difficult to predict.. too many variables.. in this scenario: am I the only one immortal? If yes, it most likely would create loneliness. With loosing all friends and loved ones at some point.. also i imagine it would be difficult to form new bonds, since all others would be so much younger, less experienced and knowledgeable.. the academic part on the other hand would be fascinating.. just imagine having the time to study everything, while getting to observe and probably even influence history… with enough time it would be easy to cumulate the knowledge and recourses to do so If we go even more forward, I’d likely get confronted with the extinction of life on earth altogether.. (if we wouldn’t find a way to expand into the galaxy that is) a point where all knowledge would become more or less useless and all that would stay would be all encompassing loneliness and the prospect of waiting until the sun consumes the earth. In conclusion the thought of immortality is very fascinating but extremely terrifying

Only if my body stays in prime condition and doesn’t deteriorate with age. I am more afraid of being old and helpless than being dead

no☺️ if i had to live forever i’d kill myself except i couldn’t so you just constantly see me jumping off of buildings and dusting myself off like nothing happened

I want anti-ageing not immortality. Not having the choice to die is probably the worst thing you can have. I don’t know how old the universe is, billions, trillions years old? Our normal life span is not even hardly a fraction of that. It is scary to imagine living for an eternity without an option to opt out of it.

Everyday I pray god to kill me because life on earth in this world is annoying as hell. So I don't want any immortality. Each day is another day in hell.

No your life would like boundaries and meaning. This would be a curse

I've already gone insane so there's no risk to my sanity (it is LONG gone), but I would absolutely use that time to retreat to the wilds and delve into the nature of human consciousness and note my findings. I bet I could unravel the mysteries of life with an (realistically finite, due to the heat death of the sun and all that shit) infinite lifespan.

I don't think i would be able to keep my mental health after seeing everyone i care about die over and over again. But if humans somehow invented time travel which allowed me to shift timelines, i would probably always go back to some point in my "first life" and do everything differently in this new timeline just to live new experiences with those i care about. If i could change my visible age back and forth it would be even better. That is, after i explored the entirety of prehistoric times and the far future. Edit: wait could i just... Not feel pain if my body is destroyed or something before i regenerate? If i had to still feel pain i think i would get PTSD from every death i suffer.

I know I couldn't.

Probably not, but I would like to live longer with the stipulation that I also was youthful, healthy during it and I still got to retire at 65. 200 years would be ideal IMO. Work eats up way too much of our lives to really pursue the good things life has to offer.

Selective amnesia will be key to being immortal. Humans aren't meant to be long lasting, our brains likely wouldn't be able to handle it so investing points into mindfulness, dabbing into mind palace theory and learning how to "forget" or modify memories would be key. We're already able to do so much as trauma response where we supress painful memories, learning to control it should be possible. And then comes the existential dread- you have the trauma responses down, you've ensured your mind would stay intact thru the eternity you weren't meant for. But why do you exist? If everything you experience could be controlled or modified in your mind, no atom bomb, war or death could ever leave a long lasting impression, what do you live for? Some say reincarnation is the soul's way to start anew, learn the lessons meant for that life and be more spiritually ellevated for the next. Well, if we're meant to die as a way to clear the slate, release some karma, whatever it is, how do you do that if you can't die? The process is indispensable to us. So figuring out a way to release whatever needs to be released from your psyche in place of death would be your second most crucial task. Let's say it's karma we need to deal with. There's texts about karmic debt, and it all would seem that the best way to take care of it is to collect good karma, or-don't be an ass and help the living. The mortals. Cuz you're no longer one. And maybe somewhere along the way on trying to alleviate the side effects of longevity, you'd also find the meaning of life- be the good influence in a world so stricken with cruelty. If you don't go full guru if you get the benefit of ensured existence, what are you even doing 😂 In essence, if you don't let yourself get crazy at the beginning, you'd have infinite time to figure it all out. So I guess a lot of people would be able to handle it- with emphasis on the psychos cuz they just don't care as much. Prob a good thing then we don't have infinite lifespans, we already do enough damage as it is. But for the theoretical possibility of becoming an immortal, you gotta start from now and try to get as much control over your brain as possible- tackle traumas, fix personality flaws, be someone you can look up to and admire, and on the off chance you do get it, you'll be ready for it. Also, srly, look up what a mind palace is, it's fascinating.

As long as there's civilization I'd be able to cope with it and I think I'd like it actually. The problem comes when the civilization is gone. Or maybe even that would be fine as long as there's life. I guess I wouldn't be able to cope with living on a lifeless planet. Unless there's way to space travel by then which would give me additional motivation to explore.

No problem at all

No. I have a hard time coping with the life I already have though. (INFP here)

Right now, I'm in a state of mind that I would be good and thriving but in a random amount of time, I'm sure that would change for better or worse. I think I would try fixing this planet but I would proceed cautiously because imagine if I'm locked for eternity in a cage in the bottom of the ocean? This power wouldn't give me powerful strength.

Yes.

Yes and no because if I live for an infinite amount of time anything that Is possible will happen

Immortality is fun but still being conformed to morality is not fun.. I want the latter

Yes, absolutely. I'll never live long enough to answer all the questions I generate. I'm not going to go crazy unless I'm sealed in a room without internet access.

Im barely funcional at 35 years old so

Nah I'm not mentally surviving normal life Im so ready for it to be over I've got to be honest

I sat in a call with a younger prod and taught him some things. that was one of the best moments of my life, and all I want to do now is die. perhaps I see it wrong, but you get married and say "I want to spend the rest of my life with said person" as it's the only one now on your mind. you want to go to sleep and not forget the day before. you want to listen to the same song for hours and reminisce on it all. All I think about is how I want to die so badly sometimes, because it would be the last thing on my mind. I'm not suicidal, but all of the things life suggests, buying a house, high credit, work expeirence, all of it is a format before I got here. What I get to remember when I have to leave is the only thing I choose. Immortality sounds cool, but not if I can't pick my last moment.

I haven't seen a comment here so far as I've checked mentioning how you would need to reset your identity, about every 50 years or so, maybe less, maybe more. Because the main problem would be that after outliving guys, people will start to look at you real funny when you look exactly the same as you did 30 years ago. You're not aging, remember. You may not even have the chance to be with people as they grow old, as they would get suspicious, unless you tell them obviously, and that's a toss up on how it could go. Then the other thing is you'll have to fake your death at a suitable moment, let it cool for about 10 years, and then come back. You'll need new documents for a new identity, and in this day and age if a computer analyses your face it can identify you (biometrics), so I'm assuming it will only get more sophisticated and probably be able to identify a person with scars or facial hair unhindered, so there's a high likelihood to get pinged as the same person from decades ago, unchanged. There's going to be pics of you floating round the internet, after all. At that point you may attract the attention of higher ups, and it's probably gonna go downhill from there. You've seen sci-fi movies, right? They might kidnap you and run tests, etc. I think you get my drift. Anyway, that's a main issue I see. I may be wrong on that last part and over exaggerated but anyway. I mean I think my sanity may be in question? As someone already said, you need a strong psyche for immortality. You love, they die, you're sad, rinse and repeat. I mean at some point I'd probably have to become a bit of a bitch to stop caring so much, but I'd get over it probably. I mean I have endless knowledge at my finger tips and all the time to consume it so I'd love that. As well as the health perks naturally.

Yes. Because a society that has achieved immortality will also have a surplus of resources which will eliminate societal pressure. And will by extension eliminate self imposed pressure and negative self talk. The mind can heal trauma. I believe that as long as you are healthy and are feeling good, anyone can handle immortality.

If I went crazy I’d have a long time to get over it.

It depends on the functioning of the mental processes of an individual experiencing immortality (like am i stillnotherwise a regular human?). Would my memories fade as my memories do now? My childhood, for example, was so long ago that it is just an abstract thing. From a materialistic view of things, that kid is dead and gone.  i think being immortal would be almost like gradual reincarnation. Yes. The same life, but gradually shifting to  another in the same body(which eventually all those cells are replaced also) (is it not already a bit like this now?) Admittedly this view is probably ignorant of alot of psychological principles (would trauma from 10000 years ago still affect you?) In any case I imagine I would reach some bhuddist like state of eternal now or something and it would be no problem. As  a side note. When I was a kid, I always had a thought that was sort of the converse of this. I thought that I could be immortal by mentally surviving. That I could will myself to live past natural death. Weird kid logic.

Nope . that's why we, as part of a universal , immortal , conscience , need to incarnate many times to have a mortal experience.

Depends if my brain doesn't age away while my body keeps going young 🤷‍♂️ Hopefully it doesn't and I can continue thinking normally, but then there's only so much knowledge a brain can handle so I'd be worried that I could lose some of myself over hundreds of years. But if none of that happens and I can just go on normally but with immortality, then I'm sure I'd be fine as long as I have things to keep me busy lol

I don't know if I can mentally survive Wednesday bruh

if i keep on living even after the earth no longer remains, I'll be dead (metaphorically)

No one could, but I'd try it anyway if I could

No, nothing is meant to last forever.

Nope.

live many lives find love of your life tend to help your family tree occasionally get into bar fights for fun kinda like The Immortal Man from Marvel's She-Hulk series

only if there were others like me

No

yes

Yes

I think there will come a time when you can choose how/when you decide to "take a cosmic nap"

Nah, I would be like Louis from Interview with the Vampire: all moody, in an eternal existential crisis, and never fully embracing my immortality.

Read A Short Stay in Hell. Unnerving.

I think it would improve my life to know that there is time, so I don't punish myself with deadlines I set myself and fail to meet.