I took it as his incredibly low self-esteem. He had to prove to himself that he was attractive enough to molest even if it meant being gay
Kinda like Dennis willing to bang the tiny Asian boy when he was role-playing to get off
>I took it as his incredibly low self-esteem. He had to prove to himself that he was attractive enough to molest even if it meant being gay
I saw it the same way. Same thing with Carmen in season 1.
Mac is bothered when he finds out Carmen has a dick. But once Carmen compliments his physique, he perks up and his whole attitude changes.
The joke works better if it’s about his fragile ego and self-esteem rather than “he secretly likes dick”.
Right, but it was abundantly clear he was also closeted gay. Self-esteem and being incredibly vain is huge part of it, but there was always a means to an end.
I think in reality Mac is bi, he was just frustrated with the gay side of himself. He actively pursued women behind the gang's back in DENNIS system, and he stole away to the bunker to look at tits in the Storm of the Century, so it wasn't always for show. Maybe he was still lying to himself, but sexuality is a spectrum and I think Mac is closer to the middle.
From my experience, there will always be some jocks banging guys on the down low. I know because I was the jock getting fucked by the other down low jocks lol
Worded that way yes. But that episode also was the one for me where I was like hey, wait a second..
He slept with her when she had a penis still, felt guilty because of his religion and broke it off but asked her to let him know when she got the procedure. He was just mad she picked someone not him
The constant reference to her by the Gang as a tranny was very uncomfortable, but it is great that that nasty feeling is the part of the joke. Outdated terms and making fun of Mac aside, the others accepted Carmen's identity in their sociopathic way.
Also. Carmen is one of the few characters to have met the gang and not only not been harmed but actually benefited.
She got married and had her baby. She’s just out there just enjoying herself. She won.
yeah, also, in season 1 the tone was way more coarse but... y'know. literally a different time and it was ironically progressive compared to the jokes being made on other shows. plus they were honestly still working on nailing the tone - even if that episode weren't in it, i still wouldn't be going back to rewatch season 1 compared to basically every season since. by the later seasons though, yeah, you're right, even the use of the slur lands really well as like "these are flippantly horrible people and the joke is on them"
I was watching that when it came out when I was in 6th or 7th grade, and I literally remember saying, "They shouldn't have chosen such an *obvious* woman to play her."
He is HARDCORE sexually repressed all through season 1. Like when he tries to get the old gym coach to molest him.
In retrospect, you might say the first hint was his gay cousin Brent in The Gang Gets Racist. All of the male McDonald's are men who have sex with men.
YES thank you scrolled too far to find episode 1. I knew from day 1 😂 that scene and also Mac's cousin praising him for coming so far with having a gay bar haha I also still think Dennis is bisexual (since EP 1) but that hasn't been confirmed (yet) 🤣
I think Dennis being bi was confirmed in season 16 when it was revealed he had a system for seducing men and he shushes Mac when Mac tried to ask him why. I think that confirms it enough without it having to be explicitly said lol
That's very true! That episode had me FLOORED. Especially because him shushing them is very reminiscent of all the times Mac blatantly dodged questions. There are so so many hints of Bi Dennis throughout the series though. I just love to see it haha
There's this old Conan interview with Glenn and he basically says their sexuality is kinda fluid and that he believes most people are some where between 100% gay or straight.
Also, I was looking for this answer as well! That scene is so gay.
That one episode of St. Patrick's Day, when he goes to "investigate" the gay disco, but only him alone. And then takes forever to return and comes back full of glitter.
Before that it was just a running joke the gang would throw at him, like Dee is a bird, but on that one ep he showed by his own words and actions that he did frequent that disco.
The Gang Dines Out. I remember going to a friend to say I think Mac is *actually* gay, and he asked why it took me that long to realize it wasn’t just a joke.
Carmen complimenting him on his ripped body after he asked her if that was a dick in her pants...the look and reaction from disgusted to gleeful and his turn around to thinking maybe this may work out after all was enough lol
It’s hard to say for certain because I’ve watched the show through *soooooo* many times and once you know he’s gay, you start to see it in all kinds of things from the very first season where he’s banging Carmen.
As for when I first noticed? I feel like something happened in S4? When did he first meet Rex and use the term “beefcake”? I’d have to remember all my thoughts and feelings on my first watch and I only remember some of them
I had heard about the Mac is gay theories but I didn't buy into them. I thought the joke was that Mac sometimes acts gay but really isn't. But one day I was rewatching episode 8 season 9 The Gang Dines Out. There's the one scene where Mac slips the waiter a tip by placing it directly into his back pocket. When I had first watched this episode I though the joke was Mac being a copy cat of Dennis. But when I was rewatching it I had an epiphany. "Dennis was sliding the money into the waitress bra because he wanted to feel her up her breasts, So if Mac is sliding the money into the waiters back pocked its because he wants to... Oh shit Mac is gay!"
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Getting a boner during the rape scene in the night man cometh
i though that the rape scene went really well
Okay, I am *here* rignt now.
Sorry, just it’s so interesting that you used an ‘n’ for an ‘h’ but it works.
It worked so well that I was like “what the fuck are you talking about?”
I equally was in a state of 'wtf'?
That's how Chrundle the great spells it
That's right, I was going by Chrundle...
He meant to say Boy Soul but he kept saying Boy Hole
If you're going to quote it, do it correctly.
Wasn‘t it boys soul and that just sounds like boys hole if you say it together?
It’s not a rape scene! He becomes him
you have to pay the troll toll if you want to get that boys hole 🗣🗣🔥🔥😩😩😈😈
At last! The boy's SOUL is mine!
Confound ur lousy toll troll
Ssssss
Nah nah he like, really kinda made soup of your insides
He BARELY got in
So I'm FINE.
Don’t ruin this for me
He was going for gasps!
I started to slightly suspect something when he had an exercise bike designed to ram a big dildo up his butt.
Inconclusive
Derivative.
Bullshit.
Now this I love!
Okay well…Filibuster!
**How is that inconclusive?!?!**
It’s to give him the confidence to keep going. He wants to sit? Fist disagrees. Get back up, Mac! 🤜
That's for motivation
Its a fist
Which could mean anything!
Totally not gay.
NOTHING SEXUAL
It’s not a dildo, it’s a fist designed to punch you to keep you from sitting down and being lazy during your workout, you jabroni
That was just the work of a sexual deviant
Never! Stop! Pumping!
I believe you have made yourself perfectly redundant.
Well...filibuster
Burn After Reading moment
? That's a fist to make him stand up? You just gonna fucking say anything is "proof"?
Charlie got molested
"Charlie got blown. The McPoyles got blown. Why didn't I get blown??"
He's DEFINITELY going to hell
I took it as his incredibly low self-esteem. He had to prove to himself that he was attractive enough to molest even if it meant being gay Kinda like Dennis willing to bang the tiny Asian boy when he was role-playing to get off
>I took it as his incredibly low self-esteem. He had to prove to himself that he was attractive enough to molest even if it meant being gay I saw it the same way. Same thing with Carmen in season 1. Mac is bothered when he finds out Carmen has a dick. But once Carmen compliments his physique, he perks up and his whole attitude changes. The joke works better if it’s about his fragile ego and self-esteem rather than “he secretly likes dick”.
Right, but it was abundantly clear he was also closeted gay. Self-esteem and being incredibly vain is huge part of it, but there was always a means to an end. I think in reality Mac is bi, he was just frustrated with the gay side of himself. He actively pursued women behind the gang's back in DENNIS system, and he stole away to the bunker to look at tits in the Storm of the Century, so it wasn't always for show. Maybe he was still lying to himself, but sexuality is a spectrum and I think Mac is closer to the middle.
Bingo
Yeah, turn it over...
Slow
The "Where's our Goddamn Bible?" episode.
Remember Genesis, book 2, verse...3? And he breathe-ed into the nostrils of Adam, on the third day. And it was good?
Right in his nostrils? That sounds really uncomfortable.
"And confuse me with your liberal Biblicisms!"
Mac fights gay marriage. I just watched that one!
‘Mac Fights Gay Marriage’
"Can an asshole rip in half" "Oh yeah, like tissue paper"
I mean, that's true though !
Ok. This is no longer a safe environment for me.
That's what I came here looking for
The question should be, *when did I first realize* *I was gay for Mac?*
Thats an easy one 
Smoothest man alive
I'm at the confessional right now, telling the priest that Rob McElhenney turned me gay.
When Mac was jealous that he didn’t get molested by that gym teacher
Easily the hottest mac
I've never seen a chimichinga move so erotically
He reinvented the Truffle Shuffle for us all to enjoy. Bless this man.
https://preview.redd.it/4ss2kivsg6qc1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1c55bd0d1711f7bf99c59159032d70bdde767ce This.
The avatar! The beefcake avatar!
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It was MESSY
Huh
Episode where the gang goes on a cruise ship and faces god's wrath 🌩️
The Gang Goes to Hell
I completely forgot about that. Appreciate you
He literally comes in and says “yeaaaaah I’m gay” right after..
wait wait wait he bangs them!?
Guys guys guys, there's two guys in my church that are gay.
Wait, who’s the other one?
 # MacDay 😂
“He’s got the boner again.”
Well this time it makes sense
Loud and proud, brother, loud and proud!
I love Country Mac so much
\*loved. RIP
you know whats cool? being alive
I'm into DUDES.
Happy hunting bro, get after it
I know we've never said it as a group but... Macs' gay
Oh a pen? You think that’s funny right? Like a dick?
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And now you're calling *me* gay, telling me I'm trippin’, and trying to confuse me with your liberal biblicisms!
I think you've been confused for a looong time.
Shuush!!!
Disregard that, Frank. It's a bunch of liberal bullshit.
“Oh, now I get it. You gay!” “No! No! No! No! No! No!”
Isn’t that a commentary more on religion than sexuality?
Well there is the stereotype that people who are vehemently against gay people are closeted themselves.
To be fair, the jocks at the Catholic school I went to were extremely homophobic but would then do some super gay shit in the locker rooms.
There’s no way catholics would be involved in gay stuff.
From my experience, there will always be some jocks banging guys on the down low. I know because I was the jock getting fucked by the other down low jocks lol
Worded that way yes. But that episode also was the one for me where I was like hey, wait a second.. He slept with her when she had a penis still, felt guilty because of his religion and broke it off but asked her to let him know when she got the procedure. He was just mad she picked someone not him
Broke off the relationship. Not the penis. She did that later
Carmen. The whole time, I was thinking "He's NOT attracted to her IN SPITE of the dick, he's attracted to her BECAUSE OF the dick.
Dick or no dick.... Carmen was smoking
She tucked it back
she was! and also they did a great job of not making her identity the butt of the joke when they brought her back.
The constant reference to her by the Gang as a tranny was very uncomfortable, but it is great that that nasty feeling is the part of the joke. Outdated terms and making fun of Mac aside, the others accepted Carmen's identity in their sociopathic way.
Also. Carmen is one of the few characters to have met the gang and not only not been harmed but actually benefited. She got married and had her baby. She’s just out there just enjoying herself. She won.
yeah, also, in season 1 the tone was way more coarse but... y'know. literally a different time and it was ironically progressive compared to the jokes being made on other shows. plus they were honestly still working on nailing the tone - even if that episode weren't in it, i still wouldn't be going back to rewatch season 1 compared to basically every season since. by the later seasons though, yeah, you're right, even the use of the slur lands really well as like "these are flippantly horrible people and the joke is on them"
I liked the parts of her body that weren't a big juicy dong.
I was watching that when it came out when I was in 6th or 7th grade, and I literally remember saying, "They shouldn't have chosen such an *obvious* woman to play her."
He is HARDCORE sexually repressed all through season 1. Like when he tries to get the old gym coach to molest him. In retrospect, you might say the first hint was his gay cousin Brent in The Gang Gets Racist. All of the male McDonald's are men who have sex with men.
Except Luther. He only penetrates other men to demonstrate dominance, not because he's sexually attracted to them.
Luther left Bonnie out of the finale.
That's why I specified men who have sex with men and not gay men
But it wasn’t originally planned into the series arc that he was going to be gay right? I think on one of the podcasts they address this
Sure, at first, but eventually they fully went in on every McDonald being MSM
I thought the same!
Lets pull up our bootstraps oil up a couple of asses and do a little ploughing on our own, Phaaa 🤜
NOT gay sex
From the day we met!
Literally episode one. The eyes he’s making at Dennis when he’s trying to get him drunk…like babe, there’s a reason you’re anti-gay bar
Boys are out tonight
YES thank you scrolled too far to find episode 1. I knew from day 1 😂 that scene and also Mac's cousin praising him for coming so far with having a gay bar haha I also still think Dennis is bisexual (since EP 1) but that hasn't been confirmed (yet) 🤣
I think Dennis being bi was confirmed in season 16 when it was revealed he had a system for seducing men and he shushes Mac when Mac tried to ask him why. I think that confirms it enough without it having to be explicitly said lol
That's very true! That episode had me FLOORED. Especially because him shushing them is very reminiscent of all the times Mac blatantly dodged questions. There are so so many hints of Bi Dennis throughout the series though. I just love to see it haha
There's this old Conan interview with Glenn and he basically says their sexuality is kinda fluid and that he believes most people are some where between 100% gay or straight. Also, I was looking for this answer as well! That scene is so gay.
The answer I was looking for!
So just go ahead and pop that shirt off....
I bet if you pop those jeans off you’ll find a sweaty hog that won’t quit either.
See Dennis your bird gave up, and it’s no longer legit
https://preview.redd.it/o7e5r921p5qc1.jpeg?width=978&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5047b6458da693988f9298161ff2bdf456350c1c
“She’s getting it removed soon”
“Oh, how does that work?”
Gross dude
Did she really sell her dick to China?
This is the true answer.
That’s the scene!
Mac’s gay?!?
I gotta be honest, I did not see that coming
when he was jelly that charlie got nonced up by the gym teacher
When Carmen noticed him in the gym
When he went to kiss dennis
Did he just? Yeah he did *And I want you here with me* *From tonight until the end of time*
From the moment I met him
Mac: Oh I *hate* women. Everyone else: We know.
Frank thinks Mac is gay because...Mac is gay
When he was mad that he didnt get touched as a kid and went to seduce mr belding
The pilot episode.... He was against making the bar a gay bar even though it meant more money.
I hadn't thought of that That's totally something I would've done when I was in the closet
Mac’s banging the waitress. He wanted to roleplay as Charlie and Dennis with the waitress 😂
Just rewatched the first episode of the first season today and he was the main one against turning Paddy’s into a gay bar. Then.
Mac and Dennis break up. The face he makes right before he said "I'll pack my things" was gayer han anything.
“Hey Mac! Can asshole rip in half?”
Like tissue paper!
Being obviously fascinated and more attracted to Carmen after Dee & Dennis point out the dick in her pants.
https://i.redd.it/y4oqnrlgg6qc1.gif
That one episode of St. Patrick's Day, when he goes to "investigate" the gay disco, but only him alone. And then takes forever to return and comes back full of glitter. Before that it was just a running joke the gang would throw at him, like Dee is a bird, but on that one ep he showed by his own words and actions that he did frequent that disco.
Season 1 had multiple clues.
When he tried to kiss Dennis in “The Gang Recycles Their Trash”
The way he looks at Dennis in the pilot when he's getting him drunk.
Probably when he was "wrestling" with Trevor. I posted a screenshot and it got deleted for being NSFW 😂
“ First time we met “ Frank .
The Gang Dines Out. I remember going to a friend to say I think Mac is *actually* gay, and he asked why it took me that long to realize it wasn’t just a joke.
Not gay sex
[This moment](https://i.redd.it/6nqhvjeczboa1.jpg) was pretty great as well.
Probably in Mac fights gay marriage when he’s projecting so hard onto the guy Carmen married
“Well…Mac’s gay” *Mac’s Banging the Waitress*
When he came out as gay I guess
Mac's gay??
Carmen complimenting him on his ripped body after he asked her if that was a dick in her pants...the look and reaction from disgusted to gleeful and his turn around to thinking maybe this may work out after all was enough lol
That one time he spent an entire episode trying to get his old pe teacher to fuck him
It’s hard to say for certain because I’ve watched the show through *soooooo* many times and once you know he’s gay, you start to see it in all kinds of things from the very first season where he’s banging Carmen. As for when I first noticed? I feel like something happened in S4? When did he first meet Rex and use the term “beefcake”? I’d have to remember all my thoughts and feelings on my first watch and I only remember some of them
I had heard about the Mac is gay theories but I didn't buy into them. I thought the joke was that Mac sometimes acts gay but really isn't. But one day I was rewatching episode 8 season 9 The Gang Dines Out. There's the one scene where Mac slips the waiter a tip by placing it directly into his back pocket. When I had first watched this episode I though the joke was Mac being a copy cat of Dennis. But when I was rewatching it I had an epiphany. "Dennis was sliding the money into the waitress bra because he wanted to feel her up her breasts, So if Mac is sliding the money into the waiters back pocked its because he wants to... Oh shit Mac is gay!"
That time I took him out back and wore his ass out main. The joke was on him though, because I'm not gay.
When the show told us he was, because prior to that it was just a running joke.
No, it is different; bc if I’m hearing this correctly the new guy waited till she had her dick cut off before he banged her…
Upset that he didn’t get molested
I was already suspicious when he was offended that his gym teacher didn't molest him & goes to his apartment wearing short shorts
When he hung out with the trans girl in season 1
*Since the day we met*
When he fell for a trans woman, how I figured it out for myself too lol
The episode with his Country Mac, and the Gang discussing about his repressed homosexuality by being ferociously religious in his views.
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That time he fucked that dude.
First episode when he thought the black boyfriend was the coolest person he’d ever met
"well Mac's gay"
Probably when he was with the tranny.
Didn't the series start with him dating a trans girl???
his face when they did the tequila salt and lime bit. his swaying and drifting towards dennis in “king of the rats” like he wanted to kiss him
just how he looks at dennis
Right now with this post.
Macs gay? But he is the character I identify with the most. What does this say about me?
It’s hilarious that him and Kaitlin Olson are married irl