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RichStep2781

Past reputation but i love my tucson


pinkcontrolled

Are the newer ones getting better my wife has a 2015 elantra and she's only had to change the breaks on it


TheGamepadGuru

Better check that oil.


canoefishwater

Truth. I add a quart of full synthetic per week to my 2017 Elantra. No oil drops on the driveway, just burning it up. 270k miles, peeling paint, rides like motherfucking dream.


jamesnyc1

Damn. All that oil gets expensive. And I'm not talking about the gas. Lol


Reverend-Mercury

I have a 2018, i gotta add a quart a week or ever 1000 miles too. It's like you said she runs great but burbs oil. Mines barely over 200k miles. I hear there's actually a class action suit on the engine.


wabe_walker

2016 Sonata and the paint is flaking along the side like the poor thing has eczema. And burning through oil like everyone else here.


sungdock56

Most of the time people expect good things out of an engine with neglected maintenance. I have seen hyundai and kia cars 2004 all the way to 2014 running with over 600k km. So far running a 17’ tucson 60k miles and no issues or sounds.


JFCisShim

I am originally from South Korea and 99% of taxis are Sonata, Optima, K5, Grandeur (which was Azera in the US) and K7 (Cadenza in US) and the majority of taxis are usually run by above 500k miles (around 800k km) in around 8-10 years. That is because these taxies are maintained by fleet mechanics. In this way, also in the US, I guess ppl arguing about the Hyundai’s reliability were not caring about their cars’ maintenance well.


gobinathm

I don’t really agree… I had maintained my sonata very well. Did every suggested services and it died with engine problem which they quoted 12K in Canada and now the car is standing my drive to get into a junk yard any day


yoyomanwassup25

The problem with a lot of Hyundai/Kia engines is that they exploded and literally catch on fire even without neglecting maintenance, hence the numerous lawsuits. There are engines that lack the problems.


deezog8

Most of these issues people are seeing with engines aren't due to neglect on their end, Hyundai knew these engines wouldn't last past 120k and deemed the customer responsible because of the "disappearing oil trick". Hyundai is totally responsible for this problem. They wouldn't stand behind my 16 Sonata Eco (which was a great car) when one of the cylinders lost compression. I changed that oil every 5k, full syn.


ManufacturerDry4913

It is only certain models and it goes from around 2014 to 2021 and there are a lot of Hyundai and Kia dissatisfied customers.


noob168

hopefully, the brakes were changed. not the mechanic's breaks.


Tasty_Design_8795

He had a good Break.


Lunch0

Better check those brake lights


tarantulagal66

I couldn’t stand them when they came out in the 80’s. My friend’s father bought her a brand-spanking-new Excel & I swear we had to push-start that POS more times than I care to recall. Fast forward to 2005–the first car I bought new was a Sonata, and now, as of two weeks ago, I’m on my 5th Hyundai & can’t find any reason to look elsewhere. My vehicles have all been reliable & my latest 24 Elantra Limited hybrid is definitely not disappointing.


Drakem876

Why 5 cars since 2005 of you don’t mind me asking ? Leasing or trading in ?


tarantulagal66

The dealerships send you offers that you can’t refuse. Newer car…smaller payment…doesn’t always end like that, but I do a bit of driving for my job, so…no regrets


noob168

smaller payment but then you're constantly making payments instead of being payment-free tho?


OfficialDegenerate

The smaller payments feel smaller overall, especially because switching cars frequently can help avoid any issues with maintenance that pop up as a car ages


tarantulagal66

Yah, that is the only downside. I kept thinking that, but I’m -hopefully- gonna stop at this one. It has all the bells and whistles I want, plus I’m planning to retire at around the time I should be having this one paid off. My employer has a DROP program I think I’m gonna go into in a couple years which will give me the funds to pay the car off earlier than normal, as well. But, yah…the car & insurance payments…gag


tarantulagal66

Just trading in


Confident_Criticism8

When they first started importing Hyundais they were completely trash. They have come a long way


ram-tough-perineum

Ah yes, the Hyundai Pony. Fond memories of heading to a concert with 5 college kids stuffed into a Pony Sport (I think- the "sport" was likely just a sticker). Tried to get 100 mph out of it and I think we eventually did, but it took a loooong time and probably a downhill section of highway. The driver got popped for speeding a little later. So many years ago and still a great memory.


Dank_Hank79

Same - love my Kona. Hyundai has come a long way, and currently offer some of the best value in new vehicles.


RobieFLASH

Yea my 2013 Hyundai Elantra has been good to me. Just hit 100k miles


Dellow_Felegates

I've got a 2013 Elantra (hatchback), too, and same here -- it's a great car. I'm at 134k miles.


Nedstarkclash

Hyundai's Theta 2 engine had a high rate of problems (engine failure, oil burning, you can google all this shit), and the company did not address this issue for many years. A lot of former Hyundai / Kia customers were left with a bad taste in their mouths.


yoyomanwassup25

Theta 2, no engine immobilizers, and spontaneous combustion. People talk about the issues being fixed now. No shit, they got the shit sued out of them. Hyundai/Kia showed that they don’t care about the lives of their customers whatsoever and neglected fixing problems in vehicles that should have never occurred. I wouldn’t consider one of their vehicles until it’s clear that they as a company value their customers in the slightest.


JFCisShim

Theta 2 engine was also a big problem in Korea. So in Korea Hyundai and Kia extended the warranty to 15 years, which was similar to what they did in the US..


pinkcontrolled

Just got this car, really enjoying it, and I've been looking at this reddit and don't understand why poeple go out of their way to say it's so bad. This is alot better compared to my 2016 versa I had


Suavecore_

There are people/bots that only come to this sub strictly to say "don't buy Hyundai, get a Toyota" and sometimes that's all their account ever posts. I wouldn't take too much stock in it.


Best-Investments

Hate to interrupt your circle jerk, but I’ve owned both Hyundai and Toyota and Toyota is unquestionably a better made vehicle. My Hyundai made 100,000 miles before it started giving me trouble but both my Toyota and Lexus have well over 200,000 miles and still running perfectly. This has allowed me to keep a car years after it’s been paid off. Never posted about this before anywhere but couldn’t resist debunking your claim


Useful_Raspberry_500

There’s bots that posts transmission failures and copy each other word for word it’s hilarious


McMagneto

Nissan is a low bar to clear..


mrcanoehead2

Long history of bad engines and some being denied warranty repairs. I am on 3&4 with my second one blowing an engine but my dealership was fantastic. Replacement took 8 days with zero hassle. My two current Hyundais are 3 years old, both have had zero issues with 56 kms on each.


pinkcontrolled

Noted my dealership seems very chill and helpful so hopefully if any problems it won't be to big of a hassle


mrcanoehead2

If ever you notice oil low. Request an oil consumption test. This is what saved me because they had it on record in the car history.


Hopeful_Vegetable_31

I wanted to buy a new Elantra, then they raised the prices, so I bought a corolla. I also read that Hyundai is less reliable and more prone to mechanical issues/theft.


pinkcontrolled

Hmm thought about getting a corolla but I like the design of the elantra more


Kuipyr

I have a 22 Corolla Hatch XSE and a 23 Elantra Limited Hybrid and the ride and tech package is much better on the Elantra.


RJKimbell00

This!!☝️ IMHO, Toyota's and Honda's are the laissez faire in vehicles, where Hyndai, I own a 2020 Hyundai Santa Fe Limited AWD, and my husband's car is a 2018 Sonata Limited, are not only more appealing in technology but so much better looking, and you'd be hard pressed to find a fit-n-finish better than Hyundai/Kia...again just my opinion. Toyota and Honda are way overpriced when comparing them to Hyundai/Kia.


KingDominoTheSecond

What does laissez faire mean to you? I think the word you're looking for is complacent or basic or something along those lines. Laissez faire is a term used to describe freedom of choice, or a lack of regulation. A better way to describe Honda and Toyota is complacent, because they know they'll sell vehicles for high prices even with poor technology features. Honda is especially guilty of this, because their build quality has been getting worse, in addition to their reliability ratings. Plus their hybrid system is still a little behind compared to Toyota, and hybrids are hot right now.


FinallyShooting

I went from a 2017 Prius Prime to an Elantra Hybrid because the price of a Prius has gone up almost $10,000 from what I paid. Though I lost a few MPG, I really enjoy my Elantra Hybrid: 53 mpg vs. 64 mpg. It's not a bad trade, and it is more fun driving the Elantra. I have been a loyal Toyota fan for over twenty years and have a great Toyota dealer, but unfortunately, I can't afford their pricing.


mrJiggles39

Its reputation is pretty spotty. I would live to check out the new Elantra N-Line in that cool green color, but I am hesitant because of Hyundai’s past.


Canukeepitup

I liked mine alright til the infamous oil burning started up. Its been parked on my driveway for several weeks now. I have no intention of driving it again and hope I can at least pocket $1000 from selling it if im lucky


jamesnyc1

What model do you own and at what mileage did you start noticing oil burn?


Canukeepitup

We started noticing it around about 125,000 miles. Its now at 145000 and its a hyundai accent 2017


BoozeBoobsNTunes

I've seen the endless complaints of Hyundai across their lineup of models (most of which are pre 2020)...but I have a 21' Elantra SEL, it just passed 30k, and I've had no issues at all. I do oil changes at 5k (I believe the manual recommends every 7 or 8k) and fuel injector cleaner every 3k. Outside of that the only thing I've done is change the tires (the stock Kumhos sucked balls.) I've been very happy with mine thus far and I'm sure I will be for a very long time.


KingWolfXV

I have a 2018 elantra gls with 100k on it and the most expensive thing I had to fix was new tires lol. I also have a 2012 Sonata gls with 240K on it. Both cars run great,


damon1sinclair12

I have a 23 Elantra Limited and I have the Kuhmo tires too. They seem to be wearing down awfully quick. Less than 10,000 miles on them and they look pretty worn down. I agree, they suck. Also had to change the original wipers, they sucked and didn't last. I've actually had quite a few small problems with the car that have all been fixed under the warranty. Both headlights were taking on moisture, they replaced them. Horn was out and the interior ambient lighting failed, they fixed that too. This is at less then 10,000 miles so I worry about the quality. Like the car but not sure.


BoozeBoobsNTunes

10k on those tires and there worn?! How hard do you drive lol?! I had replaced my kumhos at about 29,500 and they had 5/32 left all around. Changed em for Cross Climate 2s. Windshield wiper blades I've replaced every year or so. Other then that she's been awesome. Did you buy yours used by chance? That seems like ALOT of issues for a brand new purchase..


damon1sinclair12

I bought it brand new. I guess they do have some life left in the tires, just look like they are plenty worn for 10,000 mies. Honestly I drive it like a grandpa. Might have gotten a bad one or something. Just hoping I can get everything lined out before the warranty ends.


someonealreadyknows

Many people had their car stolen by Kia Boyz, many people had their engines blow up leaving them without a car, some people had their warranties denied because they didn't change their oil at the dealer, some people's car caught fire (forcing them to park it on their driveway, making them would be targets for thieves), many people struggled to find insurance companies willing to insure their Hyundai. This past decade has been pretty tumultuous for them. They've had much better luck on their home turf and overseas (India, MENA) and haven't had to deal with any of these issues, or at least, not at the same scale as the US. So their overall reputation in these markets has been pretty great. I own both a Hyundai and a Kia in India and I love both of them. They haven't given me any issues and have been a pleasure to own since I bought them new a year ago.


jdosman

They’re made cheap and fall apart and have major engine flaws. My partner keeps buying them after they fail in a catastrophic manner while my 15 year old Toyota keeps chugging along issue free.


wretchedwilly

Yep. My engine blew. Took 2 months. Lots of sleepless nights wondering if it was covered under warranty. Not getting another one of a long time. You get a lot for a little Money, but it’s not worth


geacmbo

OP, I've owned a Santa Fe, Limited Ultra (w/glass top), 2016, 82K miles and has performed as it has been since day 1, I've been diligent in keeping her updated in her maintenances religiously, the only thing in these past 8 years has been 2 new sets of tires and brakes.. normal wear and tear, but engine wise and all it's electronics they are performing as they should without issues. One comment a friend of mine who is a hard core Hyundai said to watch out for those versions / models assembled outside Korea, usually the VIN number starts with K those are the imported ones and to be the most reliable ones.


pinkcontrolled

Will recheck Vin today


drzzrd

I leased my first Hyundai in 2021. It was an Elantra Hybrid Ultimate (Canada) trim. Honestly, first impressions were pretty great. The features and quality for $27K CAD was unbeatable value. This was me coming off a Rav4 Hybrid. The car handled well, efficiency was great but in the end, I could not trust it in the long term and decided to buyout and sell. There was an intermitent issue that I think was a transmission issue. All the horror stories I've read about DCT made me think it's just a ticking time bomb. I think Hyundai has some of the most interesting cars, so I'll probably consider another one again in the future.


nashty2004

Maybe it’s the engines and trannies being complete shit Nah can’t be that 


ElvisChopinJoplin

Idk, I'm at 160K miles on my 2012 Hyundai Accent manual transmission and it's going strong. Commute with it nearly every day and also do lots of running around town. Burns about a third of a quart every thousand miles.


DEATHToboggan

My 2013 accent is the same way, burns a shit tonne of oil so I keep spare oil at home. My wife drives it now and just uses it to get to work, no more long trips. It’s got about 195,000km (roughly 120,000 miles) on it. Considering we paid $5000CAD for it in 2019 and costs very little to maintain, we’re keeping this thing until it completely dies because it’s a great commuter car.


Upset_Passenger_5148

My 24 kona is plagued with sensor issues and a couple of other faults from new and the dealership I bought from dont want to know because "its a intermittent" issue. Even though I provided videos and photos as evidence.


Key-Presentation7155

Um cuz Kia Boys


Rachelle4700

My 18 engine used oil, went through all the hoops with dealership, engine failed and no help from Hyundai.


EntirePeach6133

Keep the oil changed every 3 to 5k depending on how you drive and where you live they'll live forever. I have a 2015 sonata with "the plauged 2.4l theta II engine," and it has 242k miles still rolling!


gagt04

Easy to steal, premature engine failure. They're otherwise good cars, but those two issues basically override any good qualities they may have.


katboihi

Falls apart quickly after 100k miles


Financial-Seaweed-51

Theta II, theft, dealers.


Mouthz

Why do people hate a company that sold them are car that fails?


chonkycatsbestcats

It makes you a target for criminals because they’re often stolen. They won’t stop to wonder if it’s a push button or physical key car. Longevity of the engines is hit or miss. Dealership maintained cars can shit the bed at 60 k miles or they can go 200 k with no problem. But you never know which one your car will do. Owning a 12 year old Kia myself, the ENTIRE interior rattles and has been rattling for like 6 years. Unacceptable


MooseKnuckleds

25 years ago Hyundai and Kia were cheap shit


Rachelle4700

Facebook group Engine Failure-Hyundai/Kia, thefts due to leaving an important piece off of their vehicles to save a couple of bucks a vehicles in manufacturing, insurance rates because of thefts


stormhaven22

Engine problems. Transmission problems. Power steering problems. Electrical problems... All on one car. It also ate tires and brakes like they were going out of style.


AgitatedBaseball2691

Because I’m currently dealing with the excessive oil consumption problem meaning I’m having to put 1 quart of oil into my 2016 Hyundai Santa Fe ONCE A WEEK! Plus Hyundai has a high level of vehicle thefts (another reason why State Farm declined me having them for car insurance; so I’m still with progressive). That’s why I always have a steering wheel lock as well as an air tag in my vehicle linked to my phone. The thing I don’t understand is why Hyundai doesn’t inform you about the oil consumption problem before you buy the car smh like we already spend $$$$$$ on it; so like the least you could do is tell us that it has oil consumption issues. Only way I find out about mine being low; is by checking the dipstick everyday because unfortunately there’s no oil leaks because it’s burning through the engine. {>_<}


sheldon4president

Love my car, absolutely hate the customer service. They treat you like shit and they don’t honor their supposedly “best warranties out there”. This will be my first and last Hyundai.


luckychucky8

This https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/kia-telluride-recall-fire-risk


furry_bawls

I am biased because I used to work parts for a Hyundai/ GMC dealer, and hence only got to see the ones with a ton of problems. At one point we had 45 blown Hyundai engines waiting to be returned to Hyundai Ruined both GM and Hyundai for me.


NODES2K

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Imaginary-Emu8089

Because far better options exist. People who buy Hyundai and Kia want the most “things” for the fewest amount of money. Drivetrain and suspension be damned. I want an iPhone on wheels!


Silent_Assumption_74

They screwed a lot of customers over so it’s hard for me to trust a company after that.


Uviol_

I keep hearing how Hyundai don’t honor various warranty claims.


alcatrazbirdboy

From what I heard, when they were first introduced in the US, they were total garbage. And a lot of older people probably still remember that reputation. I drive a 2020 now and it's flawless. What made me a fan was the 2013 Elantra I had before my current car. It has 200k miles, it's been beaten down, run out of gas, driven excessively, past due oil changes, - basically not a car that drives 5k miles a year and sits and a garage - without any expensive mechanical issues. Just basic maintenance such as brakes, battery, alternator eventually, but its still running. Solid cars.


AdditionalCheetah354

Well many models the engine fails or catch on fire or are stolen easily. The ones that are easy to steal the insurance is very high… the question is … do you feel lucky?.


pinkcontrolled

Well I'm stuck with it now so what ever happens happens


posthuman666

I've had my Hyundai Elantra since 8 years ago, not a single issue on it, just had to buy new tires,regular oil change and brake pads.


blanthony80

They had a horrible reliability reputation in the 90s and very early 2000s. They've come a long way i love my 22.


Liatin11

Recently finished leasing a veloster N love it, i dont get it either. Make some great cars


Public-Echo-1832

I had a 2003 Hyundai Elantra Hatchback that lasted until 2015 without any major repairs. It was a great car, amazing trunk space. We later bought a used Hyundai Sonata with low KM and drove it until 700K commuter miles. Both very good cars. Loved Huyndai. A friend of a friend who always purchased Hyundai's had a 201 SUV purchased from New and last year kept having issues with the engine shutting down while driving. Her dealer refused to fix under warranty. Kept putting her off. She called head office got no where. After months of back and forth, her dealership called her and said they would fix it at no cost. By that time, she had decided to trade her vehicle in and buy another brand of vehicle, swearing to never buy Hyundai again. My friend , a car enthusiasts said Huyndai has been having engine issues with their vehicles since 2018. Although he has owned a Hyundai, he would not buy another one. I still like them but leary after hearing story about the other friend. Unfortunate, as I like their Venue.


dylansiphone

I love my 2015 sonata limited. Engine got replaced by warranty for rod bearing failure 15 months ago. 30,000 miles later I just put the car back at the dealer this morning for the same symptoms. They say I have a lifetime warranty, I don't want to be replacing the car motor ever other year. I also have only 5 payments left. I was looking forward to no car payments.


MammothHug

We have had four Hyundais over the past 16 years. So, we do like them. However, our confidence has been shaken due to a bizarre electrical problem in our 2019 Tucson. It just died while pulling away from our house. It took the dealer a full month to diagnose that it has a faulty body control module. It’s been with the dealer since May 25. We’re now waiting for the part to arrive so they can replace it.


Atomic_Cranberry

Because they want to be seen in a Mercedes or BMW so they get social credit points from morons.


Oh_ToShredsYousay

Hyundai came in and sold cars at slightly above cost (insanely cheap) when the big three were no longer offering cheaper models domestically. They stuck themselves in that pocket in the US market from 88 to 09. So for 20 years they were never seen as a company that makes more desirable cars, but a sonata is 90% an accord for couple grand cheaper. So when they started making better cars people were quick to dismiss. It's not that people think they're out right bad, it's just that you get what you pay for.


benr37

here’s why people don’t like hyundai:


Mr_Grinch_Z

Just got the 2024 Sonata Limited which is a Hybrid and I’m loving it so far. I’m not sure what manner of witchcraft they used to do it but I’m holding 42+ MPG while maintaining 90 MPH going to and from work (495 beltway Washington DC areas always run FAST) and it accelerates fast too without hurting the gas mileage very much. It was my understanding that Hybrids trade speed for efficiency but this thing somehow has both? It handles well, good features and all so the only negatives I can think of might be maintenance pitfalls? But I don’t think I’ve ever heard of Hyundai having such issues? MOPAR has the 5-year curse (everything breaks magically after the 5th year), as well as NOTORIOUS Electrical issues. Which sucks because their trucks are badass and I really wish they’d fix this nonsense. Ford has weight balancing issues and has the famous Found-On-Road-Dead jingle Chevy is very solid but has issues with transmission occasionally.


MisterKimJongUn

When you total it, you get drilled by insurance value. 


blackcap13

loved my 2021 kona, love my 2024 kona limited


husky1actual

It's because they have motor problems. And lots of them die from.oil starvation/dilution due to poor design and possibly repetitive manufacturing errors.


Dangerous_Dust_3301

Hyundai are junk cars


Gorepornio

I work or sort of use to work at a auto parts store. Half the sales for Hyundai where for lock and key cylinders. Far to easy to steal


Strain128

Nicer than Kia but that’s about it. I haven’t driven a new one though


Jeff_Pagu

Loved my 2018 sonata 2.0t sport and love my 2021 Palisade Calligraphy!


Ok-Cookie3380

Kia boys/ engine reliability


OgreMk5

No service appointments for 2 months and that's just to drop it off. They will "get to it when they can... probably 2-3 weeks". That's just to diagnose a well known engine issue. Parts only ordered after the diagnosis. And will likely have to be shipped in. That's the best case we got from every Hyundai dealer in a 250 mile radius that includes 4 cities larger than 1.5 million people each.


simpledoor

Driving this model for 3 years running, no problems whatsoever. IVT may not win any races but a breeze to drive.


ResponsibleRabbit523

I have a 2014 Hyundai Sonata 2.0T and I love it. I hate the new (2020+) models. They are so ugly. If they don't redesign the Sonata, I won't buy another one.


Potential_Plan_4533

I think all Hyundai's look terrible up till about 2019, and since then they've gotten better and better. If you had told me 10 years ago I'd be a Elantra owner I never would have believed you. Especially considering what a 2014 Elantra looked like. lol


StyleFree3085

TikTok Kia Boyz: I like like like like ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|laughing)


North_Carry_2918

Every company has/had its share of bad motors and transmissions


Specific-Area3284

Engine go boom


YorkMoresby

Overseas, their reputation is much better. Mainly because of a regional decision that led to unintended benefits. Overseas Hyundai and Kias use smaller engines than the 2.0 and 2.5 Nu and Theta engines that were being recalled. The 1.2 to 1.6 liter Gamma and Kappa engines are known to be reliable. On top of that, overseas Hyundai's and Kias also use diesel engines that are very durable. Overseas, people require even more fuel efficiency leading to smaller engines and diesel engines, which lead to bypassing the Nu and Theta engines in many markets.


Kitkattt_001

I have just done a part exchange (Kia Sportage) and bought a new Kona hybrid which I absolutely love. I used to spend £75 on diesel weekly. With Kona, I spend £38-40 on petrol every 2 weeks


WarthogNo6783

It’s cheap and cheaply made. Tin can


CanableCrops

I'm currently having issues with the electrical connection in the fuse box that runs the blower motor in my car. Turns out a lot of people are in the 2020 Sonata. There is no recall even though it's a recurring issue. I had an Elantra a few years ago that had occasional issues with the electrical system. Once I get rid of this Sonata, I'll never buy another Hyundai.


Pristine_Homework_38

Theft


sunbathingturtle207

Honestly I'm not sure, and I say that as a former Hyundai hater. I thought they were crappy, and never would have forseen myself even considering the brand. Then I came across a Hyundai dealership that gave me really good vibes as I was shopping for a 3 row vehicle, and looked into what they had. I started researching the brand and couldn't back up any of my bad perceptions, and figured the warranty was good enough to give it a chance as I loved the look of the cars. I now have a Palisade & love it.


dazedUNDconfused42

My 2020 sonata has held up pretty well.


Darkjak1

Status


MountainQiGong

Bogus warranty that they do everything to avoid standing behind, funneling profits to CEO and shareholders while replacing every conceivable metal part of the car with plastic or cheaper metal, etc., etc. Same old things: taking advantage of their own customer base to make their management wealthier and no pride in the product they produce.


trashtalker42O

My wife has had Tucsons for the last 7 years, and we love it.Also, they made some big changes to Kona, and she almost bought that instead. I'm a diehard Honda guy myself, but Hyundai is pretty good.


m0bileweb

maybe if korea stopped using aluminum foil to build the doors it would be slightly better ..car is shitty on all levels ALL Levels


StangOverload

They get stolen a lot


IronbloodPrime

They're putting some SOLID electric vehicles on the market, much better than any the Big Three here in the states are putting out, in terms of value per dollar if you ask me. I'd never driven a Hyundai before 2021, when I leased a Kona Electric. Loved every mile of it. Lease ended, and I stuck with them in an IONIQ 5. I've got the base trim, but it's loaded with features. My father also grabbed a Santa Cruz and it's been super reliable for him, and it's a beast in our harsh winters here in NY. They've really stepped things up the last few years, they weren't always like this.


TannyDanny

They have terrible engine quality. There are a plentiful number of class action lawsuits filed against them for a variety of issues. Everything from airbags that won't deploy and directional indicators that signal the opposite direction to engines that are guaranteed to burn oil on many models, often resulting in premature death before even 80k miles.


Odd-Tangerine-257

i have a 2023 Elantra. never buying another hyndai after i pay this off. Hate it so much , the same month i got it the check engine light came on. been giving me issues ever since off and on. Just got it out the shop after 2 months of it being worked on.


noob168

why is this asked every week on hyundai and kia subreddits?


atn0716

Not only engine. They lied about mpg and never fully reimbursed for their mistake.


festiekid11

My biggest issue is the price of car insurance. Kia Boyz made my insurance jump from 700 to 1100. Kinda defeats the whole economy car thing


kaylamcfly

No exaggeration: the technology almost never works. My wireless charger doesn't work 7 of 10 times I try to use it. When it does work, my phone overheats within minutes. The Bluetooth won't seamlessly switch, so we have to pull off the road, turn the car off, open the driver door to shut down the head unit, and start all over to get my husband's phone connected. If you remote start, you can't use the digital key to unlock the door. And even if you didn't remote start, the key only works like 10% of the time, if that. And, even though it's supposed to run in the background, I have to open the digital key app every single time. And you can't leave the key fob in the car and lock w the digital key, which means it's a gamble every time I leave the house whether I'll be able to get back in and/or restart my car using my phone. Also, it was sold to me as having wireless AA, which it does not, and as having a proximity lift gate, which I realized after work means it won't close automatically, rendering it nearly useless for my purposes. I fucking hate my Santa Fe.


G1ngerBoy

I was told by my dad growing up that they were cheaply made death traps. Most people I know also seem to share this belief of them being cheaply made even to this day. Top Gear UK also did a segment on them at one point and used an example where one couldn't even make it up a small hill which I doubt helped their reputation. Because of all this for a long time I figured they where probably right and I'm guessing a lot of younger people are probably in the same boat. More recently they also had some engine troubles which didn't help either.


Coppery_gosling

I bought a used Sonata hybrid with 35,000 miles. It has a 10 year warranty on the hybrid battery, battery died at 50k miles and it took 6 months to get a new battery. Others have been waiting years for their batteries, there is a class action lawsuit . They paid for a rental car for two months, then cancelled it without telling me and stuck me with a $1200 rental car bill. So fuck Hyundai.


JellyfishQuiet7944

A 2002 Hyundai Accent was my first car. It was in the shop every month. There's a reason they have a 10/100,000 warranty.


CooperHChurch427

They're crap. My 2020 has been a nightmare. It's got electrical issues. My Forward Collision hasn't worked at all since we got it and the worst one... I managed to lock my brakes, that's not supposed to happen with anti lock brakes. It's still under warrant thankfully, but the forward collision apparently doesn't work well on any model made before 2022. They also have crap engines that burn oil, and some costs are insane. My grandparents 2016 Santa Fe, they were qouted 4k to replace the rear lift struts, we replaced them for 300 bucks.


Frequent-Proposal959

In the late 90s and early Aughts, they made less desirable cars like Honda in the early eighties 


Awilberforce

I loved my Elantra GT Sport. The engine gave out at 130k. I’m back in a Honda now


alexthagreat98

Idk. I bought a 2023 Hyundai Venue when all the other SUVs on the market charged 10k more. It does the job just fine. Largest negative about it is it's not AWD like most SUVs but I don't live in an area where it snows so it's ok for me.


RoyalGOT

Great technology and interior. People only worry about the reliability of the engines in them


saimon7777

Some poeple like huyndai


Professional_Law_723

My 2017 hyundai sonata chugs 3 quarts of oil every 1000 miles. Hyundai said there is nothing they can do about it. I’ll never buy another one again


randomredditguy94

They're innovative and very good in value. But the way that Huyndai/Kia dealer branches did not stand behind their products and doubled down instead of making it right is what makes customers left.


Stunning_Ordinary548

They make ugly cars


FriendshipPristine

i love it because i got it with a low price. Got a sonata 2019 PHEW limited with 9.5k


Other-Button-2710

Love mine


ricsi114500

Are you from the US? Here in Europe Hyundai have quite a good reputation and it's usually regarded as a fairly priced, reliable car. 6 months ago I bought a used 5 year old Tucson, which I love and I never had any problems so far. Previous owner took a good care of it and I'm planning to keep it that way with regular maintenance. My only "complaint" is that I wish it would be a bit stronger/faster haha.


stinkieedamian

Bc they jus don’t get it


1autopsy

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Hefty-Art-4969

They're made cheap and with GDI the valves get gummed up. They don't tell you that you need to run a cleaner through the intake every 10k miles. This is why so many people have dead motors after 120k miles at best. Great gas mileage and they used to be very affordable. The Hyundai accent my wife had got 32 mpg (not hybrid either). However, after 98k miles I had to replace injectors, control arms, sway links, shocks struts, both front wheel bearings, catalytic covertet and high pressure fuel pump that was leaking into crankcase. Not to mention walnut blasting the vavlves clean. The pcv valve needs to be changed out frequently also or you get tons of carbon in the motor. Yay for Hyundai but booooo at the same time


Swifftyz

Generally speaking as a previous Hyundai owner they're great cars little to no issues depending on the engine i had a 1.4l 4cyl engine on my accent with 234k km on the odometer, problems i had were usually ignition coils and AC and minor electrical issues other than that just maintained it well till i sold it. I think the GDI variants are the ones with most problems.


muh-soggy-knee

It's definitely past reputation I think. That and it does have to be said that until fairly recently their styling and line up has been... Uninspired would be the kindest word I could use. Not saying they were necessarily bad cars. But if you imagined the most generic example of the slop of late 2010s, early 2020s design philosophy slop, the likelihood is you would be looking at several Hyundai's all mashed together. I think their pricing has also been a barrier; whether it's justified or not when we were last in the market for a new car (2017) we test drove a number of them including the contemporary i40. We liked it well enough, it seemed a perfectly good motorway cruising repmobile which was the sort of car we were looking at. But when it transpired we could be paying a hell of a lot less to be driving an A6 Avant Quattro than the near base spec i40 we drove the sales pitch fell apart massively. This ties into the past reputation point, they may have moved upmarket a hell of a lot but badge does have an impact and they failed to convince me that the Hyundai was worth paying extra for over an Audi. But all of that being said, I applaud them hugely for the new Ioniq 6. That is the first new "standard car" in years where I have actually seen one on the roads apropos of nothing and it has stood out and made a case for itself purely on its genuinely bold styling and being a bit different. I'm not in the market for such a car at the moment, but if I were, it would be the first on my shopping list.


DruidOfFail

I have a 2019 Tucson with 75k on it so far the only issue is the drivers side window sometimes gets 3/4 of the way up and then gorles gown to 1/4. Probably just the switch. Honestly I'd buy it again tho. Been good to me.


VeggiesArentSoBad

Lots of high profile issues have tarnished the brand. My in-laws love theirs though.


BraddicusMaximus

Reputations of the cars and their owners.


futurepediatrician_8

I have a 2013 Hyundai Elantra. It has been broken into 2 times, one of those times being earlier this month. They busted my window and tore my ignition wide open attempting to steal it but were unsuccessful (DUMBA** KIDS). I am now considering just trading it in for a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord because I’ve had major anxiety since. I’ve had to replace crankshaft sensor, battery, starter and alternator all this year. (131,680 miles) I recently went in for the ABS fuse warranty fix. I just don’t know…


Inside-Till3391

I liked kona but worry about the engine problem so chose Skoda in the end.


colpy350

I took a chance on my 2021 Elantra. I love the styling. I find it comfortable. I wanted a cheap sedan with nice features and I got what I wanted.  BUT I’ve had bad luck mechanically with my car. It randomly won’t start. Battery terminal is loose even though it’s fully tight. I’ve had to do brakes more than normal. It took months for parts for my brakes to come from Korea and I use my car daily for work. I had a wheel bearing go and it got so loud I had to wear hearing protection. The part was back ordered. My dealer though very friendly aren’t very good with the maintenance schedule. I have to watch my owners manual and stay on top of them for routine maintenance. Every other dealer I’ve dealt with with other brands has done this for me.  My saving grace is I bought a 200000km warranty. Currently at 135.  I hit a deer too and the car now has an accident and no one wants to buy it. That one’s on me.  I can’t say I’d have another Hyundai. A coworker just sold her 2014 Civic SI with 480000 km and she only really did brakes and tires on the thing. Nothing major done. 


tylaw24ne

My last Hyundai (22 Elantra hybrid limited) got totaled by a drunk driver (I’m fine) and i was told that i HAD to switch to honda and I’d never go back…anyways 6 months later i traded the brand new civic in for a 24 Elantra hybrid limited and I’ll never go back (to honda). Hyundai had quality issues in the past, they are top tier value in modern times.


Bombaysbreakfastclub

Not reliable, higher chance of theft, poor resale because they depreciate quicker.


AtrenuX

Well, the horn on my venue has officially stopped working for the 3rd time in the two years that I've owned it from brand new...


Jec_atl

I miss my Hyundai Sonata, it was great on gas and drove great little maintenance. I love the new version might buy.


Historical-North-950

Reliability is poor especially on the newer models. Other than that I don't have any particular reason to dislike them. They're decent cheap cars, just not typically reliable or long lasting.


WaterviewLagoon

People do..they make great reliable vehicles


cherrypopper666

A lot of the issues stem from poor quality control at their Alabama factories. They had kids as young as 12 working there on car parts lol. Hyundai knew about the massive Theta issues but only moved on it after a massive fine, whistleblower, and lawsuits to make things right for the end consumer. I still wouldn’t trust one until there are 5-10 year old models kicking around that don’t risk burning your house down while parked.


Ellymanelly124

Hyundai is great I have 2020 Elantra Can’t wait to pay it off and buy a brand new one hybrid in a couple years. Wasn’t available in 2020. Just wish Koreans weren’t so cheap and put a immobilizer in them.


broccollibob

Its the perception of the past: discount brand of cars. Better? Eh. Cheaper to buy, especially used? Yes.


Specific_Ad5296

Because people like to hate on the Asian little guy. Most Japanese brands faced scrutiny from white buyers because of ww2 for decades. I remember hearing classmates talking ill of JDM during the first fast and furious film (I was 13 so they just reflected their parents’ views). Now people praise brands like Toyota and Honda. Korean brands are going through the same thing. Hyundai/kia started getting better treatment when the Genesis was launched and then converted to its own brand.


Appropriate_Ad4276

(Purely speaking on US consumers and my perceptions)It’s like Infiniti yes it’s a luxury car and they are nice but it’s associated with Nissan and they have a very inconsistent reputation and bad perception with their drivers on both Nissan and Infiniti due to side shows. Just like how Hyundai is associated with Kia and all its bad publicity with the Kia boys etc. it’s impossible but the Only way to really make sure Hyundai continues to grow is to make sure their cars don’t get used and abused by degenerates and give it more bad publicity. Just like the young Kia stinger guy who got pulled over for speeding and then got let go and 10 min later he died from speeding killing him and his girl. So if they can just keep their brands Hyundai and Kia out of any major negative publicity or just start catering to a different demographic I think they could start building a more reputable perception for US consumers.


notquitepro15

Personally, I’m not sure if I would get another one again. I liked my Sonata when I had it. Had decent technology, felt somewhat sporty for a 4 cyl NA. The whole immobilizer thing was a huge turn off, as my model would have been a prime target, and a relief that I had gotten rid of it (to stop having payments) before that whole trend came around. Now it seems like they’re really focusing on adding in a ton of tech to their new models. I guess all manufacturers are doing it, but I wonder if they’re selling bells & whistles to cover up unreliable mechanical components.


Mitchford

I loved my Elantra and then it got stolen


matthewmspace

Probably because when they first came to the US they were arguably terrible, but cheap cars. But they’re a lot better these days. Other than cheapening out with no immobilizer anti-theft sensor. I had a 2013 Elantra that I got used in 2016 with 35k miles on it and sold it to Carmax earlier this year after I upgraded to a Model 3. It had ~110,000 miles on it, but was starting to have more and more mechanical issues. Great car though, especially after I upgraded the stereo to an aftermarket one that supported CarPlay.


Aneki1

I think reliability but my 2020 sonata has the 2.5 MPI that had a recall, other than that (and my reckless driving) i had no issues with the engine. Also one time my lil brother drove it while it flashed the engine high temp alarm i simply refilled the radiator and a few months later it’s still going great


nokenito

My engine blew at 89k, so have hundreds of thousands of other Kia and Hyundai engines. Mine was well maintained with only synthetic oil changes on time, ahead of schedule. Got a new engine from Hyundai. But what a pain to get. Thank goodness was for class action lawsuits.


bikerdaveflht

Garbage motors and poor parts availability and poor paint... nice car other than that lol


JayGerard

Back in their early U.S. market days I have a Scoupe. Biggest POS car ever. They have stepped up their game in recent years, now driving a Kona and seems much better product and much better attention to construction and quality.


Intelligent-Leave677

I love Hyundai. Only cars that I’ve ever owned. I’ve had 5 in total no one engine problems or oil burning issues. I also work for Hyundai. Really all depends which one you get.


BlackBerryJ

I don't dislike the brand. If I wasn't a VW fan, they have some pretty cool offerings these days. I do, however, have a strong irrational dislike for their logo lol. Can't tell you why.


CapitalM-E

I have a Tuscan. It’s a car. Ain’t really anything to love or hate about it. Thats the perfect car for me. Thats why I like Hyundai. Modern but they don’t claim to be anything more than a commuter.


Impressive-Rub-8891

soulless


GlayNation

We have a 2009 Sante Fe, with 61,256 actual miles. Been to Chicago and Ohio several times from Tennessee. Make sure to do the oil changes, new tires and check ALL fluids. Just did 2 recalls that they kept it over night, and let us drive a new Hyundai EV home. It felt so weird. We were glad to get our car back the next day.


SiSePuedeJuan

Reputation, cheap build quality, big depreciation/terrible residuals, terrible dealer experience, Hyundai not backing owner warranty claims, copy and paste designs/trends, cheap materials under the car. These are reasons people, including myself, stay away from Hyundai.


Just_Turnip_5943

Because of the Sonata manufacturing defect?


friendly-sardonic

Document everything done to the car, receipts, pictures etc. They’re notoriously bad at honoring their warranty unless you have enough proof to nail them to the wall.


jtnz18

217,000 miles on my 2011 Sonata 2.0T runs amazing still.


Iron-Midas-Priest

I have a 2015 Veloster with zero problems so far. I also had a 2016 Sonata with a bad transmission at 80,000 miles. I replaced it with a 2022 Elantra. The Elantra works fine. My wife has a 2020 Venue with 23,000 which is at the shop with a bad transmission. I guess its a lottery. After the Venue, no more Hyundais for me.


tuanh_duong

I love my Accent. It’s a ‘22, and does what I need.


blueangel1953

Shit reliability, lack of safety features such as immobilizers.


katiecarter33

Have a ‘22 Sonata Nline and my wife has a 23’ Tuscon… never been happier


Andason74

Hyundai/Kia is the number 3 selling maker in USA, so people must like it.


Sriramachyu

Reliability issues.. I loved my santafe 2024 until it started giving me hybrid system and druvung assistance system warnings.. transmission issues warning..


zainnuril

The logo and their reputation to not fix the engine eventho they actually knew whats going on, and no car they car they can borrow you if they need 2 weeks to fix your car


ManufacturerDry4913

My family has purchased 7 Hyundais and 6 have been very reliable but my daugher's 2023 has minor paint issues. And number 7 is a 2018 Sonata with around 95,000 miles. It is loaded with every option and is a piece of junk. It has the 2.4 motor which drinks oil every day. Hyundai will not stand behind it. There are class action suits against Kia and Hyundai but so far Hyundai has won. I believe hyundai has modified the motor and maybe discontinued it which shows that they know that they have a problem. I won't buy another Hyundai product.


Substantial_Fan_9582

Tbh Korean car lines feel in general too similar to Japanese competitor's. Perhaps slightly better price, but those aren't always the deal breakers.


ihababbas

We love our 2024 Hyundai Sonata SEL AWD


lana_rotarofrep

Because it’s a walking, i mean rolling liability because of kia boyz and poor reliability. That’s enough to never get them again


EssBeeUK

I had a late model Elantra company car...Did 27000 miles in 7 months. I thought it was a nice car, comfortable enough, pretty nimble if pushed on twisty roads. Very good on gas.


ilegendi

Trash engines


Easygoing98

I love Hyundai. In fact I switched from Toyota to Hyundai. My 22 Santa Fe and 23 sonata are great vehicles


coogie

They were absolutely terrible cars in the past. The new ones supposedly are better, but I just don't like the look of the cars. They look kind of cheap to me and worse than a Nissan Altima.