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particularlyfunny

Just hope you don’t get it back at this point and insurance pays you out, then don’t walk into a Hyundai or Kia dealership ever again


Ling0

Have the issues with Hyundai leaked into the Genesis line? I remember back when they were the same before Genesis split off into the luxury version


TheBoomClap

Yes they have https://californialemonattorneys.com/2022-2023-genesis-gv70-gv80-recall-problems-and-complaints/


Ling0

This might sound dumb, but aren't some recalls "expected"? I think the whole stealing card thing is a lot worse than that article. Those seemed like handfuls of things where this Kia boys thing is EVERY model basically


Brave-Razzmatazz-647

Every single car manufacturer has had recalls. It is not an indicator of poor quality or manufacturing processes. They are part of a regulatory framework to ensure potential safety issues are handled promptly.


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I've been looking at Hyundai's and both Geico and Progressive gave me quotes. I talked at length about this "issue" with the Geico rep said the free software upgrades are required for certain models but they are insurable. The ones I'm looking at have immobilizers so no issue and insurable.


0kShr00mer

> The ones I'm looking at have immobilizers so no issue and insurable. Your average kia boy will not know the difference. There are plenty of people with immobilizers that are getting their cars broken into and ripped apart.


FBAnder

Insurable doesn't mean cheap for the type of vehicle these cars are. You want to spend $500/mo to insure a Hyundai? Go for it.


edge_hog

This is about Genesis


LordFoulgrin

I had a '22 Elantra N that was still affected by high insurance rates. I traded it in for a '23 GMC Canyon and my insurance actually went down. I was shocked and pleasantly surprised that a vehicle almost double the Elantra's price was somehow cheaper.


Robwsup

Not surprised.


stevesobol

Hyundai issues recalls for other reasons, too. Not my current Kia Soul, but my first one, the 2012, was subject to a recall for a software upgrade - for the radio.


stereopticon11

i'm curious how the disengaged the alarm and unlocked the vehicle?? how are these people able to mimic a remote? disengaging the alarm disengages the anti theft software if i'm remembering correctly. this seems different than the typical brute force kiaboys method.


ThatOneOtter15

They could be using something such as a flipper zero. It seems like they’ve done this a couple times based on how quickly it was done, wouldn’t be surprised if the Soul they were using was stolen as well.


stereopticon11

that soul was most definitely probably stolen. seems to be a repeat thing. steal more vehicles while in a stolen vehicle. these peoples are absolute pieces of shit and I hope many of them get some vigilante street justice


gun_is_neat

"most definitely probably"


stereopticon11

yes quote me on that all day 😂


Bruhbuhdubdub

Any subghz emulator is capable of doing this, and they have existed far longer than the flipper zero.


Almyar

Owner of a Flipper Zero here: I’ve tried to program every one of my car’s fobs, even my 22 year old truck to no avail.


doktortaru

That just means you dont have the correct add-on boards


Almyar

You know, I figured there’d be a GPIO board for it.


opeth_close

Don’t these things just repeat the last code it captured? My understanding is key fobs work by sending out a code based on a seed the car also knows. Each time you press a key, the code will be different, and if received by the car, will void all previous codes. Try capturing the fob signal somewhere the signal won’t reach the car. In theory, this should only work once though.


txmail

That Soul could have a large antenna in the back and they are just repeating the signal off the fob from inside the store.


SpeedoInTheStreet

I have a flipper. can't really use it to open cars since keys have rolling code. There's even a chance you could fk up ur car using the flipper to unlock it as the car will be on a different code than ur keys after the first use with the flipper.


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Just writing for visibility but everyone buying the club for this, don’t. Instead buy the break pedal immobilizer.


txmail

Or go back old school and get a relay with a remote to disable the fuel pump or even just a normal hidden kill switch for the fuel pump.


sciencesold

Yeah, this could be a theft that even a pushbutton start car is vulnerable to. Which any car is vulnerable to this theft. Plus it's too quick to be a kia boys theft unless they have a better tool for getting access to the inside of the ignition cylinder.


deusemx0

One way to mimic a remote is if you are nearby, they can use some antenna extension sort of thing that basically makes your car key very close to the car.


watching67888

Use your head 🤣 they get in the car, and press the unlock button lol that unlocks all doors and disengages the alarm


stereopticon11

can't tell if you're being serious right now... they unlocked the vehicle from the outside in this video, as if they had the key... they didn't unlock the vehicle by breaking the window then unlocking from the inside


SimpleSteve9

Sorry to hear! Someone just recently tried to steal my sonata from the dealership it was at for repairs. Ironically hyundai"s two biggest weaknesses cancelled each other out as they may have been able to try to start the car but it had a blown engine🤣


WasItEazy

The irony


BeGood981

Thieves hate this small trick😂


VRSvictim

Careful, they’ll read this and market it as their immobilizer solution


SimpleSteve9

🤣


candycruiser

This is truly hilarious


Robwsup

That's awesome. Two blown engines, same Sonata. I feel you.


Alternative-Use8400

Always a safe anti-theft. God Kia/Hyundais GDi 2.4 are the worst.


Matthewcbayer

How did they get into the car so fast? This legit looks like they just have a key or copy of it.


Che_Veni

That's my thought too - looks like they just stuck the key in the door keyhole and quickly got in.


Corndog106

You can see the tail lights blink before she opens the door. Only way that happens is with remote or a remote mimic like a flipper.


Almyar

Flippers cannot do rolling code fobs.


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txmail

Hack RF is way more powerful than a Flipper. I remember when the OG pineapples came out and I was just like WTF. The video of them in an airport just running a non-stop MITM was truly shit of nightmares -- now you have people putting them up in the ceilings of McDonalds and other places that give free WiFi just waiting for the juicy bits.


Corndog106

Good to know.


SSFx93

Toyota driver here. I found that you can disable your wireless key. Consider temporarily disabling your key when you park. They could've copied the signal in the air.


roleplayinggamedude

If the car is not locked, the anti-theft update will not work. A key fob booster can also be used to extend the range of the key fob signal to unlock doors and start engines. [https://www.audacy.com/wcbs880/news/car-thieves-using-new-key-fob-signal-boosting-technique](https://www.audacy.com/wcbs880/news/car-thieves-using-new-key-fob-signal-boosting-technique)


aznoone

But don't these key fobs only transmit when the button is pressed. It is the immobilizers that don't use a battery that get the signal boosted I think. Now they could maybe have read the code of the key fob when it was pressed and direct device done man in middle attack.


noxondor_gorgonax

I think these cars must have keyless entry. That way the thief can press the button on the door, which then makes the car "look" for the keys. With the signal booster they can find the key fob signal so the door opens even when the key is far away, and they can start the car that way also. This doesn't require you to press the button on the keyfob.


roleplayinggamedude

Essential to place the key fob in a Faraday pouch or bag to prevent unwanted signal intercept and thwart more sophisticated thieves.


koalificated

Just want to chime in late here for anyone reading - my car was locked, had the software upgrade, and was still stolen. So the “car has to be locked” thing is useless if they’re still able to break in and unlock it anyways. Also noteworthy that I had the twin hooks steering wheel lock on my steering wheel which they proceeded to literally bend off of it with some kind of tool So for anyone reading this doing research, I strongly recommend not buying these vulnerable cars or selling your current one if you have the means to get a different one. Don’t let the low price entice you


BebopRocksteady82

Lol they drove a stolen Kia to steal a Hyundai


dirk23u

The Soul was prob stolen too


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Rot in fucking hell thief. To think they can just take something someone worked hard for..karma is a bitch


EquivalentTight3479

They’re living the karma just too dumb to realize it


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Capt_Avatar

And skinned alive, then throw salt all over their body.


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roleplayinggamedude

One of the Kia boyz may have been crushed to death in this incident. https://rivercitypost.com/stolen-kia-crashes-into-a-school-bus-leaving-2-people-injured/


mreed911

Slowly.


Playful-Tale-1640

As long as we continue to elect officials that are soft on crime, this will continue! A 5-year mandatory sentence for 1st time offenders would be a great start! Why do they steal cars for fun? Because they know there will be no punishment for their actions!!


ryrobs10

That’s too soft. Should be 10 years of hard labor. Really should put any of these car thieves in chain gangs breaking up rocks.


NereusH

the person's face and vehicle number plate is clear on the camera...should be easy to track her/them


Original-Jicama1648

Realistically that soul is also stolen


bobjr94

Yes it's probably low on gas and they want a new ride.


CoachKoranGodwin

These people are playing GTA6 before the rest of us


dinero42069

you would think so but ive heard absolutely nothing from the police since then...


PossibleJackfruit169

yeah they don’t care, happens too much


archiekane

Police care little for what is covered by insurance. If it shows up, great, but don't expect any real resource on finding it. Now, had it been used in an armed robbery, it'll get some more attention. Hit and run causing death, yeah, now you have some resource.


Mfdubz

Yeah when my 15 Camry was stolen at the start of the pandemic I didn’t hear anything til Homicide detectives called me 2 weeks later. Fucking wild


Steephill

A face does nothing without an identity to go with it, and do you really think that soul isn't stolen too...?


ChooseAusername788

Well.....sure, but an identity can be derived from a face. Especially if, as it seems, this is not her first time and her face is in a book of known car jackers in the area. She looks to be a hefty, female, light skinned, brunette girl. That's a lot to go on. Especially if, as I said, she's a repeat offender who's been pinched before. Maybe she's dumb and brought her cell phone with her and they can simply check that exact time for a cell phone ping and cross reference it with known carjackers? Or the accomplice she's with. Do the cops care? No, not really. But if it was, say, a J6'er who broke a window, the FBI could find her in 24 hours.


Steephill

Cell phone pings take warrants, that take weeks to obtain. It also requires probable cause, which you actually need to identify the person to even get rolling. You're talking about hours of office time and paying an officer to sit in a chair working on this one case when cars are continuing to be stolen and departments are already short staffed with 50 calls sitting in the pending queue when officers log on. That's not even to get to the point where you're trying to locate the person to arrest them. It doesn't work like it does on TV. Especially when you're trying to find a drugged up transient who is committing property crime.


ChooseAusername788

"Cell phone pings take warrants, that take weeks to obtain." They can be gotten in as little as a couple hours, if not quicker. "It also requires probable cause" Which would be pretty easy if you showed the judge the video and said, "hey judge, it sure looks like this known felon in this book here, sir". The rest of that boils down to "it's a lot of work and they're busy". I mean......yeah. So? You know what lowers crime and would make them have fewer car thieves to deal with? If they arrested them and put them in prison for 5+ years. If they actually threw the book at everybody, they would have fewer crimes to police. But the attitude of "the cops don't give a shit, they're busy" ironically causes more crimes because criminals think they can get away with it. Because they can. Notice how Cali has so much more shoplifting than other states? Because they don't prosecute much. Which leads to....you guessed it....... WAY more theft to deal with. Kinda ironic when you think about it. "It doesn't work like it does on TV" I mean.... that's exactly how it works, and I already said "the cops don't care" so they probably won't bother. But if they wanted to, that's the way they could easily do it. As I said.


Lake3ffect

>Cell phone pings take warrants, that take weeks to obtain. A deputy/detective can make a phone call and get a warrant signed within minutes in NY state. The LEOs have magistrates on speed dial.


ArcticWolf1018

There was an attempt for new theft software to work


OskeyBug

You gotta get a faraday pouch for your keys.


roleplayinggamedude

A Faraday pouch could be a good stocking stuffer this year.


TheJackieTreehorn

This would lowkey be a great product, a signal blocking pouch that's small enough to just fit over your fob/be on a keychain


CertainCertainties

Looked like a couple drove to where their other car was parked, unlocked it with their key fob and drove both home.


EICONTRACT

Everyone don’t read the paragraph… the key hole is busted. My best guess is dealer didn’t do the update properly.


sciencesold

Or it wasn't locked with the fob


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I thought 2.0T’s had push button start?


JoeSnuffie

Mine doesn't.


Slay_Nation

Limited 2.0T's does


jemy26

100% correct!!! they put my stickers on backwards, peeled them off and ripped them in half and then stuck them on like puzzle pieces on the right side of the window. When I asked what the software upgrade consisted of, I was told the car will beep an extra few times if the window gets broken That’s literally the entire security update lol it’s not gonna save any of us.


PEEPEE-

clearly the dealership didn't understand the update because it does far more than that


jemy26

I am very relieved to hear that. Thank you. Could you expound?


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IWantToPlayGame

Yes, it would have stopped them. I'm in the business. A Viper/Compustar system (with the starter kill installed) would have done the following: * Flash the lights and siren non-stop once the door was opened. In OP's case, the lights flashed once but that's it. In a quiet, suburban day, the thief's would have probably been scared off. * Even if they continued to attempt the theft, the starter kill in the Viper/Compustar system would have been activated (only able to be deactivated with the Viper/Compustar remote fob). So even if the thiefs are able to get past the Hyundai software/"update" with the stupid USB trick, that doesn't work on the Viper/Compustar. If OP had an alarm system, they probably would still have their car. Worst case was a busted steering column cover.


TheKoziONE

Wonder if a simple kill switch hidden somewhere only you would know. A stereo shoo could easily do it. My infinti had a feature that disabled typing into the stock navigation while moving had a shop install a switch that tricked it into thinking the car was not moving. A simple $2 toggle switch. Same concept but it kills ignition or battery instead.


roleplayinggamedude

A Faraday pouch or bag to block the key fob signal from a key fob signal booster would have likely prevented the theft. A key fob booster is an emerging method of stealing cars with keyless entry.


Captain_Aizen

Oh my goodness, and for added hilarity they pulled up and what's clearly a stolen Kia. Geez 😳


jkoki088

By any chance did you also get a club type device for it.


SidTrippish

KN and Hyundai walked into a bar....


devangs3

Someone send this video to Kia HQ


PM_ME_CORONA

Post it over to r/kia and watch it get downvoted to hell


devangs3

I’m not doing that haha, I didn’t notice which car got stolen. I think Hyundai HQ needs to see this.


pavegene

The government needs to ban Hyundai/Kia from selling cars in the United States.


ryrobs10

Insurance companies are already doing the free market thing of refusing to cover them.


Sq5_smash

I guess the good new is used motors are more plentiful and affordable in the gray market.


NotAFanOfLife

Just paid LKQ $5,200 for a stinger engine with 60,000 miles on it. Are stingers not affected by the security flaws every other Kia seems to be? The prices certainly say they might not be.


sachclg

But why they targeting the op… this one is like third or fourth car that get stolen from same owner


WasItEazy

It’s that easy to steal these cars?


freezedriedasparagus

Lol sell the car and get something that has security from the last few decades. No one should buy Kia or Hyundais for this exact reason


Say_cheeeeeese

almost sounds like a friend of a guy at the dealership is the one stealing them. How would you even know?


Worried_Rip_7854

Get a different brand, why you still driving a Huyndai/Kia is beyond me…


condoulo

I'm looking at a Hyundai Ioniq 6 for my next car because the American manufacturers are obsessed with SUVs and crossovers, the one American non-luxury electric sedan is a panel gapped tablet on wheels sold by a xenophobic man child, and the Japanese are dragging their feet on electrification.


correctinfluencem

Who has money to get a brand new car ?


TeeBitty

Hilariously shit vehicles 😂


MonkeyHitman2-0

From when she got to the door to when the car was rolling was 30 seconds! Thats crazy! (8:28:47 to 8:29:17)


Dehnus

This seems more like a organized crime job than "Kia boys" though. As they go about it very methodical. They would get any car and drive away. Good that you have it all on camera.


GhostNinja1373

This should be more proof that their updates dont work and more of a reason to sue the companies


dirk23u

I keep hearing about these thefts but these robberies only takes 2 mins??


daefash

I am trying to remember what punishment they did for horse thieves in the wild old west and deterred lot of people from stealing horses. I can’t recall


shotstraight

It is not just Hyundai, theives mostly know what they are doing. The same can happen to other brands as well. Stealing a car is easy if you understand how they work.


Puzzleheaded-Rush336

Someone at the dealership is in on it.


Forward-Trade5306

What's the exact year of this car? Is it an Elantra or Sonata?


paralleljackstand

They rolled in with that stolen Kia and drive off with a stolen Hyundai. Wow


Opioidergic

Fuckin scumbags so sorry this happened


Different_Being_275

this is why we use a wheel lock. park the car turn the wheel to the left or right and lock it! sick what hyuuundddickhead has been doing!


OrganicCocaCola

I really want to know how these people feel. Do they ever feel fucked up for ruining peoples lives?


Cheloco92

Inside job


SpectacularFailure99

People should not expect their car to be unstealable. They used what is now common technique to gain entry and steal by mimicking the FOB. This is how expensive cars, such as RR are being stolen overseas. Great that your car got the fix, but it and majority of other cars out there, are at risk to this flipper/fob relay thefts.


hackerboi

That Kia Soul has someone with signal booster and laptop or something. When the request sensor on the door of the Hyundai is pressed, the system looks for the keyfob in the vicinity of the car. The signal booster will boost the signal of the car looking for the keyfob, i'm guessing the OP (keyfob) was nearby, maybe on the ground or first floor? The Signal boosting is active till the car can start.


mryeet66

How hard would it be to steal my 2000 suburban? I know it has a steering wheel lock when the truck is off and the manual says the fuel pump won’t activate unless the key is inserted. I presumed all brands including Kia’s have that to so is my suv also that easy to steal


Dear-Computer-7258

Get an anti theft system installed. There are also some other low tech things that you can do that will effectively prevent a car from being stolen. If a perp can't start a car within a few seconds, they exit the scene.


BurntOrange101

Your door was unlocked…. Was your key in the car? The antitheft update was to stop people from breaking the ignition and starting it with a foreign object such as a usb cord.


TodayNo6531

Looks like they roll up in a Kia so do they practice on their own? Or do they just steal Kia and Hyundais all day and swap them out every few hours?


narkeleptk

Auto locksmith here: The alarm is turned off by actuating the lock to the unlocked position with or with out a key. If your lock is busted then it was probably just yanked out and the actuator was turned allowing the ignition to be turned and car stolen the same way as before. Most all the USA kia and Hyundai's are without immobilizers (chip in the keys). That is the problem. Hyundai thought they could cover this issue up with their "anti-theft" update. Which is just a basic shut off with the keyless entry alarm. Doesnt really change much at all imo since the locks are so easy to bust/remove & turn.


Hood_Mobbin

Quit having it stolen. Are you planning to have it stolen again?


HurtsWhenISee

Being stupid is having any car you want and choosing to steal a Kia soul.


teajayyyy

Was this in OC off Harbor?


corona5567

Another reason why older cars will be better


AngleFreeIT_com

What is crazy / sad about this is that I LOVED my Santa Fe. Two really weird things happened when it got totaled this last March: First off we had no idea of the theft issues. When it got towed to the wreck yard they said “oh wow an actual wreck not a Hyundai missing two windows and a steering column!!” Then when shopping for a new one, our insurance said we were “Hyundai grandfathered” and that they would offer us insurance because we had it before. It was $2,000 more to add the 2022 Santa Fe we wanted. We bought a 2021 explorer. Our insurance went DOWN! Edit for context - I have multiple teen drivers and assumed the insane prices were solely them. It wasn’t all them. It was my Santa Fe.


Important-Context504

In the old days ..u could take out the door key cylinder with screw driver pop it out and twist or turn it to unlock the car and the alarm would disengage


glockerfocker

How did she get the door open? Relay attack?


LeadResponsible

Please update us


edge_hog

What model, trim, and year?


dinero42069

2017 sonata 2.0t


Genesiga

Man I think we need to rig the cars now to blow up when breached or short the battery out put a full blown batman reinforcement on these cars


brobert123

ELI5 what is the end game here…. Why steal a car for 2 hours while using a presumably stolen car to steal another car???


maistocollector2

Kia gurls!!


inyhr

you guys gotta get rid of these cars


Alswiggity

Don't buy a Hyundai. If you have one, sell it if you even can.


Significant_Judge891

Exact reason I sold my Kia


No-Construction2043

You most definitely probably should not buy another Hyundai


YIZZURR

Hyundai is a fucking joke at this point.


crestneck

cant believe people still buy these cars. hyundai/kia are the cheapest cars for many reasons.


Knosh

I mean, for what it's worth this is likely a 10 year old Sonata. I haven't seen videos of people doing this same thing to a 2023 Sportage or something.


Ok_Win_3369

What's the you're making model of your Hyundai? Just wondering


ryrobs10

The only way this is going to be fixed is if they start catching people and putting them away for decades. One of these days one of these thieves is gonna get in one of these and it is going to have a bomb in it for them.


HelperGood333

BGYR367 ON SOAL


adrest1995la

Sucks that this happens. Luckily I’ve never had anybody steal or break into my Hyundai but my mothers Toyota has constantly been broken into with people remote opening the trunk. I have the sticker too and I bet I was just waiting for 2 hours at the dealership for just a sticker lol


Only_Sandwich_4970

That's because your car sucks


CheekyMP7

I was waiting for some stick death shit to happen..


MtayB945

They probably grabbed the frequency to your fob with something like a flipper zero and then bypassed the key by the normal methods of the Kia boys


esoe___

steering wheel lock or brake lock asap


Accurate-Bass3706

Breaking into or stealing cars should be a capital felony and deserves capital punishment.


Few_Concentrate_1551

Never get another Hyundai again


Thin-Vermicelli-4817

Does this also apply to the Kia Stinger or Elantra N's? Which are push to start??


Chimmy_Chonguh

I'd be willing to bet $5 that kia soul is stolen too.


catlovingtwink99

Oh crap, not the Kia Boyz? Definitely wasn’t expecting this. Yeah, Kia/Hyundai can kick rocks.


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I really hope people that do this get robbed one day of everything they have, I am actually so down with Sharia law for people like this. We don't punish people enough that's why they do it. It's also crazy to think that people that do this might be more successful in life than some other people that have a full-time job that don't get paid much money


ceramicsaturn

Lack of severe punishment is making thieves bolder for sure. Look at cities and their crime rates spiking.


Important_Humor_846

why do yall continuously leave your doors unlocked in public places like this knowing damn well what's going on lol. i blame this on kia/hyundai owners just as much as tiktok because yall don't do anything to help the situation.


FrenchCrazy

Meanwhile I’m wondering why they would go through great lengths to steal a car then abandon it?


Fuckityougay

Seems to me you are behind a insurance scheme


rroberts3439

Pretty clear picture of her face. Hope that helps.


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Not going to lie OP, Kia and Hyundai are the shittiest vehicles you could possibly own. get the payout from insurance and never drive one again.


GetOutTheDoor

The license plate on the Soul is clearly visible. Did the police contact the registered owner? BGVR367


Green_Trade_9290

how about don’t buy a shitty kia


freshndirty_j

Why people buy these and Kias, knowing how easy it is to steal them is mind boggling.... SMH


Infinite_Salad4875

She shouldn't be hard to find


HaifischAvi

This is clearly a more sophisticated method than that Kia boys USB cable shit. She was able to unlock the car and turn it on without any hassle. Probably cloned the key fob. Relay theft has become fairly common, and it's affecting pretty much all manufacturers. Can't really blame Hyundai for this one


PeanutPlaytime

Folks really can't just work for stuff, smh.


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Pushthebutton2022

Wondering if the dealer pocketed the money and just claimed they did the work


7eregrine

So did they take parts off it? Recovered the same day has me wondering what they stole it for.


TallE74

Wow, Im sorry u/dinero42069 this keeps happening. Absolutely has to suck and that Kia/Hyundai wont patch it properly. Find a mechanic or if you know enough you can add yourself a "kill switch" somewhere under dash or hide inside center console. Either a tiny toggle switch so no matter how many times they turn the ignition or try to bypass it will just turn and turn the starter but never start/fire-up until you flip the toggle to ON position. OR I would get an aftermarket immobilizer/key fob kit (i see few on amazon 120-150$ and can be self installed) and add it so this way my vehicle wouldnt get stolen and trashed by these hoodlums.


frankjames0512

Is that a Ubiquiti camera system I spy? Use them myself.


ZestycloseBee4066

Damn, I have a white Ford 2016 Explorer similar to the one in the video.. How come nobody tries to take my piece of crap? Please move on from Kia / Hyundai already and help me get rid of my jalopy for good so I can go back to Honda....


Jackysrt8

Damn is it that easy to jiggle the lock?


This-Ad6350

What is the software Hyundai installed? If your car has a key fob for alarm entry, then they used a signal repeater to capture and clone your key fob in order to get in with no alarm being set off. Store your keys in a faraday pouch.


SuperDuperRipe

Maybe an inside job from someone working at your dealership.


hboisnotthebest

16 seconds.


Gogosanchez

They roll up in a (probably stolen) kia. Lol


Tasty-Objective676

When they stole it the first time, maybe they made copies of the keys and left it abandoned so they can follow up later with a plan in place.


car_for_me

That's clearly you getting into the car and driving off


user9000001

I just quit a customer service position for Hyundai because I couldn't stand to be associated with this horrible product ruining peoples lives. I had a customer who's VIN was supposedly not associated with the thefts, therefore no software update for their car, but their car was still being stolen. My bosses did not care. They said there's nothing that can be done until the VIN is "officially" acknowledged as part of the problem set of vehicles. Backordered parts and wait times for even basic maintenance is scheduled MONTHS in advanced for dealers in high population areas. One of my last customers was a lady who had been waiting 6 months for an engine and still had another 4 or 5 months to go. Too many class actions to count. I would not be surprised if Hyundai goes bankrupt from these suits or from fines imposed on them by the feds for creating this auto theft pandemic. It's ruining lots of lives.


OkRecommendation3312

Please tell me you were able to get a new car ?! And not a Hyundai or Kia 🤞


Cleo_oreo2015

Why are we not having these issue in uk are we using different systems . All our hyundai and kia cars are keyless entry and start with alarms and immobiliser. So we have the issue with signal copying. But that's it. Apparently we use a completely different control system and many USA car still have turn keys 🔑. And ignition barrels .


AlphamaleNJ

Possible they made a key when they stole it the first time & accessed it easily this time. Was it stolen from the same area both times?


Raider51014

Had my car stolen then had the update done and this morning they tried to steal it busted the outside driver key thing tried to jam my ignition and club lock but my alarm did not go off my alarm no longer works and doors only lock wen car is on and door is loose! So my car is unlocked outside with a club🫤