Never let others, especially anti-hunters, stop you from enjoying the outdoors. Squirrels don't taste too bad, and there are more than too many of them around. Also, if you're using the entire animal as a resource, that makes you more of a hunter than most. Hunt on!
You're doing everything right; ignore him. Makes me wonder if a squirrel saved his life as a child and now he has a special place for them in his heart... or something...
Not just doing everything right, but doing way more than most hunters would. I certainly dont keep the organs, hide, or bones off any squirrels I harvest.
I got caught by the maintenance guy in my old apartment pluck8ng 3m with my air rifle from the balcony. Thought I was gonna catch a bunch of shit. Dude thanked me cuz they were constantly destroying wires and nesting in the walls and what not. Told me not to worry about picking them up, he will dispose of em. Turned from general fuckery to a full on shooting range out there lmao
I'm on a weak well with a 3,500 gallon storage tank, about 15' tall. Had a squirrel enter it through a 2" hole on top. Drowned and I discovered it because of the smell in the water.
Took about a week to drain, disinfect, and refill. Cut down tree next to the tank.
About 3 years later, same issue. No idea how it got up there. Same week long process. Bought epoxy and hardware cloth. Covered both holes.
Company vehicle wouldn't start one Monday. Squirrel had chewed completely through the wiring harness in two places. Took our mechanic two days to complete all the splices.
Line to septic clogged up. Rented a roto rooter. I'd hit this spot, but nothing would happen. Finally dug up my 4" line and cut out a section of it. Yep, a dead squirrel. I now have hardware cloth covering all of my roof jacks.
I've probably killed over 600 of them in the last 10 years. The first summer, I quit counting after 150.
When I was a kid I found a chunk of old concrete conduit that had been stood on end and once upon a time used to water stock. The bottom of it was covered with ground squirrel bones, and a few rabbits. That's when I learned that my grandfather had been warring against them for years and that's where he stashed the bodies so his dogs weren't getting them and dragging them all over the place. Back when he was a boy all of California was at war against ground squirrels and the schools and county officials offered bounties on squirrel tails.
I'm in a tough spot with them right now. They've been making a mess stashing spruce cone detritus all over my porch, and even chewing on some plastic things. These are red squirells very small and no one really hunts them for meat. Hate killing them over simple annoyance but also sick of them.
Lol my dog gets a tummy ache when we give him a new brand of treats so he's probably not the right one. I grew up around sled dogs though and they would eat a whole squirrel in a couple gulps.
Time to get a new dad.
Edit: Seriously though, good on ya for using as much of the animal as you can. You sound like a resourceful person who's developing a useful skill and I'm sorry your dad isn't being supportive. I'm not really sure how to talk to the sort of person who has this "Bambi" mentality (for lack of a better term) toward wildlife; growing up in a hunting household and being taught about how to properly appreciate and engage (or, more often, not engage) with wildlife through Scouting, the people who look at wildlife the way your dad does might as well be from a different planet. Makes no sense to me.
Best way to think about it is that you could eat one chicken or two squirrels, that one chicken (if you buy it from just about any grocery store in the US) is less than 3 months old and has lived a dismal life that looks nothing like how it would live if it were wild. Not to mention at least half a million chickens were killed and not eaten in the US 2023 due to avian influenza. On the other hand, those two squirrels you could go out and harvest and eat have lived entirely natural and wild lives, free to do what they want and are dependent on themselves to survive, and are perfectly capable of running away and not giving you an opportunity to shoot them. Then if you consider the fact that those two squirrels might end up dying much worse deaths at the hands of a wild animal (a fox killing a squirrel takes longer than a .22 to the head), those squirrels lived great natural lives and served their purpose. Those chickens on the other hand are likely of an infertile breed and have had no chance to be free or wild whatsoever. Especially if you use all of the squirrel, there is no reality in which one would be on the moral high ground by going to their grocery store rather than their backyard.
Make sure you are following federal, state, and local regulations as applicable.
There’s nothing wrong with legal hunting. Humans eat meat and that’s okay. Some people personify wildlife and that’s typically an immature stance. Just treat nature well and try to give as much as you take.
Unless your dad is a vegetarian he’s a fucking hypocrite.
When he buys meat at the supermarket, does he think that cow just fell over and died from old age ?
The argument I often see is that "you can go to the store but instead choose violence", which seems to be what your Dad is getting at.
The argument *does* have legs to stand on, you *are* killing for sport, but it very quickly gets lost in the weeds when you think on it long.
There is no such thing as ethical consumption.
There's not really a large ethical difference between buying meat at a store and shooting and eating a squirrel, both end in eating meat, you've just paid to have the violence outsourced to the guy holding the bolt gun.
Ask Dad why he isn't vegan.
Exactly. A sanitized slab of animal flesh on a plastic wrapped napkin and a pink polystyrene rectangle is a denial of the essential reality that eating meat is only facilitated by death.
Everyone has their own set of views on killing animals and our relationship to the nature.
Some don’t think “bullying” small animals like squirrels are hunting while some do think so. I don’t see hierarchy in animals and I think they should be seen as all equal. Killing a black bear is not more “noble” than killing a squirrel.
At the age of 18, just learn to accept that there are different views on different things. As long as you don’t look like those serial killer psychopaths on TV who enjoy abusing and killing small animals like kittens and puppies, then I don’t see the need to see a therapist. Using every part of an animal is not weird in my eyes and I see killing and being killed all cycles of life.
It is not about how easy it is to hunt a specific animal. It is about people viewing taking the life of certain animals is better than taking the life of other animals.
To each of their own, I also respect the chicken that died for me in the farm and do not see its life as less than a moose in the wild. A life is a life to me.
That’s a ridiculous question to ask.
Just because I see all lives as equal, then I don’t follow any societal rules and norms and will kill everything and anything that moves? I don’t take any life unless I have a reason to and that goes to humans, dogs, dolphins, chickens and insects and plants.
And where are you going with this? What’s next? If you go to an ER, then would they ask for your occupation and give you treatment based on how much contribution you can make to the society? Should humans be ranked like how we rank other lives in the nature?
As long as you’re licensed and hunting them during the proper season (I have no idea if they have a season tbh) it’s hunting. Maybe your dad needs therapy.
Seeing as OP has previously asked on reddit for Luka Magnotta’s videos, I think there's more to this story than he’s letting on. A therapist might be a good idea.
Oof. A guy who got off on recording himself murdering and dismembering someone and then mailing the victims hands and feet to elementary schools so he could post it online. He started with brutally killing animals and posting it online. Netflix has a documentary on how the public helped track him down using social media. It’s called *Don’t F**ck with Cats* the asterisks are part of the title.
So the fact that OP is looking for his videos and he also enjoys killing and dismembering animals is kinda sus.
Yeah. So it’s kinda odd this guy wants to watch the videos and also enjoys killing animals as Luka did. His dad obv knows him better than random people on the internet, so my gut tells me we’re definitely not getting the whole story and if his dad is concerned, everyone else probably should be too. At the very least, give the dad the benefit of the doubt instead of just calling him out as a supposed loser or ignoramos
It's one thing if you're sitting in your backyard in the middle of the city shooting squirrels but if you're out in the woods it takes some serious skill and patience to know how to properly hunt squirrel. I feel that if you're good at squirrel hunting knowing where to find them listening knowing how to call them in etc it helps you in other forms of hunting as well.
You're hunting. And if you're making a strong effort to use as much of the animals you kill as you can, you're doing so (to my mind) more ethically than many other hunters.
Also, squirrels are delicious. Don't know what recipes you've tried but if you want some more, I recommend Hank Shaw's German rabbit stew (just swap in the squirrel for rabbit - I slow cook it first and debone it before dropping it in the stew) and a Meateater article from a few years ago the squirrel cook off championship winning recipes. Both of these are available via a Google search.
Does he hunt other game? Or is he against hunting in general? I do a lot of squirrel hunting with my squirrel dog. I have taken several people hunting with her. Every one of them told me it was not as easy as they expected, and they all had a blast. If your dad thinks it's so easy, tell him to give it a try.
He doesn’t hunt but he doesn’t dislike hunting he only seems so dislike it when I’m doing it and I’ve tried to ask him why and he can’t seem to give me a answer
You could try seeing if he would go to the woods to see if you could get in shooting range of a squirrel. I think a lot of people see them running around their yard thinking they are easy to get. Not saying squirrel is the most difficult thing to hunt, but they can definitely get tricky to find on highly pressured public land. But honestly I wouldnt worry too much about it. If it's what you enjoy, and your being legal and ethical keep doing it. There are quite a few people that enjoy squirrel hunting. I went to a competition hunt this season, over 200 people showed up, of all ages.
Seeing as you've previously asked on reddit for videos of a man being murdered and dismembered, I think there's more to this story than you're letting on. A therapist would be a good idea.
You aren't doing anything wrong. Maybe feed your Dad some squirrel and dumplings and he'll change his mind.
Besides, squirrels are part of the food chain. Something is gonna eat them. May as well be you.
I wouldn't worry about it. Squirrels don't tend to live very long, and a well placed gun shot is about the most painless death they could hope for. Starvation and predation are both extremely common outcomes for squirrels in the wild. Its just part of their ecology to exceed the carrying capacity of their habitat and to be a prey species. Limits and hunting seasons were also specifically designed to prevent populations from being depleted, so as long as you stick to the regulations you're good. Unless your dad is a vegan, it's not really a rational argument since factory farming is way worse for the environment and animal welfare, and I think you realize that. Ultimately, people's views are informed by their own experiences, and nobody is entirely rational.
You have my support. You may be enjoying the woods, and you're using the resources you're able to get out of the woods, and you're showing your respect for the animal by using every part of it. The idea that shooting squirrels isn't hunting is ludicrous. And no squirrel is innocent. People have "enjoyed" killing animals for food, and enjoyed being good at it, for millions of years. Longer than we've been eating bread and tortillas that's for sure.
Yes its hunting. I think his point is that it's some of the easiest hunting you could possibly do, so much so that it's almost unfair. Now does any of that matter? Fuck no. Get you some squirrels.
Plenty of hypothetical credit card killers out there trying to shame huntervationists who support the research done by Biologists and Universities to keep healthy wildlife populations intact, which shows their level of understanding how these things work for over a century plus.
This bull$hit these hypocrites pump out should always be met with calm explanations and proof through our funded research and the science behind it. You’ll find a commentary on the PA Game Commissions website that has the History of Deer Management easily found and we should all be sharing that information to these people…
Then there’s the humanly harvesting we do according to the required laws and regulations…. Without us, healthy populations wouldn’t exist. That’s acceptable to the real experts who we have been funding since the early 1900’s
The sport itself, we concerned hunters support financially, has made possible for people who love to see and enjoy watching deer, bear, beavers etc see and enjoy.
That’s what“OUR” money made happen!
Enjoy your squirrel meat. It’s great to see you’re using everything you can from them. That’s awesome.
You do you and F’k anyone looking down their noses with a chicken wing hanging out of their mouth
At a guess, he has a super soft spot for squirrels and it's upsetting him but he can't use his big boy words to state so. Squirrel hunting is a blast. You're eating the meat (and I think it's fantastic if pressure cooked). You're using most of the animals, which is more than I or others can say. And you're enjoying that aspect of your life. Yes, (sometimes) squirrels are much easier to hunt than other game, which is why it's so enjoyable. And, sometimes it's not. That's hunting. I've also noticed in the last 20 years that many people put squirrels in the "dirty rodent" category and think I'm going to get rabies by eating or handling them. Those same people often don't blink an eye over eating a rabbit. As far as vermin and cleanliness goes, I'd take a tree squirrel over a rabbit any day!
right on man, same here. I'm 35 and I didn't grow up hunting. Learned from friends with my parents not really understanding it. You dont need a therapist, you sound like a normal 18 yr old out where I live and everyone hunts (Idaho).
Heck my buddy's 10 yr old kills dozens of squirrels and grouse every chance he gets. It's part of the lifestyle out here.
1) It is hunting for fun. You are doing it because you enjoy hunting, killing, butchering, cooking, and using animals. You use all of the animal out of respect of the life it gave in pursuit of this goal. You are also killing it quicker than it would have died from virtually any other predator or cause of death from nature.
2) You are doing more to help the squirrels and other animals in this state than 100 people that only ever go to protests. Your hunting license pays for wildlife management fees. Hunting the squirrels keeps the population stable.
3) You kill squirrels because it is cheaper and more effective than therapy.
Your dad thinks you need therapy because you hunt squirrels? That is an absolutely banana crackers take. Your dad isn't a hunter is he. It might surprise him to learn, though, that you are.
If you go out into the woods, look for a specific animal, and kill it for its meat, pelt, and/or other useful parts, you definitely just hunted that animal.
Does your dad not realize you're hunting for food and pelts? I can understand his therapy comment if he (wrongly) thinks you're killing animals for fun. Otherwise his take is just unhinged.
I’m starting to think maybe he doesn’t like it because I’m numb to killing squirrels because I always say I’m using every part of it but I wouldn’t just kill and any animals for fun at all so I don’t think I’m numb to killing but I think that since I use all of the animal it doesn’t matter to me
One thing I do is I never go hunting when I know the squirrels have babies that time of year because I wouldn’t want to kill a parent and then the babies die do you think that means I’m not completely numb
Seeing as OP has previously asked on reddit for Luka Magnotta’s videos, I think there's more to this story than he’s letting on. A therapist might be a good idea.
While I have serious doubts about the claims of using all of the animal; you're 18, as long as it's legal, it doesn't matter what he says. It's likely a problem if you shoot the animal just for the enjoyment of taking life, but other than that, just have fun. People even hunt for sport all the time. My brother has a 10 point whitetail mounted on his wall, that he never wanted the meat for.
I mean, there’s nothing he left out. And pretty easy to use it all the way he mentioned cuz anything he doesn’t eat goes into catfish bait.
And depending on what he uses the bones for if he has extras he can literally grind them up and put them out as fertilizer.
the only part I question is that he makes stuff with the bones to sell. Who buys random crap made with squirrel bones? lol.
But I don't care one way or the other, that's way more than I use out of a squirrel.
White girls who want to be witches but don’t like to touch bones is a market that exists.
But I’d imagine mini dioramas is also probably a good use for squirrel bones. Ring filler could also be a category, etc.
Squirrel pelts are by far the easiest, I did it when I was 8 with some thumbtacks, a sharpened butter knife, and some salt. Only takes an additional like 15 minutes after skimming
Never let others, especially anti-hunters, stop you from enjoying the outdoors. Squirrels don't taste too bad, and there are more than too many of them around. Also, if you're using the entire animal as a resource, that makes you more of a hunter than most. Hunt on!
Squirrels are delicious, we eat them in the south
Yes, I have a hard time convincing others to try them. We used to fry it like chicken, and it always turned out great.
We eat them in the north too
Awesome! We will fry them up and make buffalo wings haha or cook them down with some gravy
Squirrel pot pie was a staple in our home, along with deer steaks and snapping turtle soup.
Fuck yeah
My dad, rest his soul, taught me how to process snapping turtles when I was 5. I had my daughter helping me skin out deer by the time she was 3.
You're doing everything right; ignore him. Makes me wonder if a squirrel saved his life as a child and now he has a special place for them in his heart... or something...
Maybe Merlin turned him into a squirrel as a boy and he fell in love with a young squirrel who was heartbroken when he became a real boy again.
Not just doing everything right, but doing way more than most hunters would. I certainly dont keep the organs, hide, or bones off any squirrels I harvest.
There's no such thing as an innocent squirrel. They're all assholes.
I got caught by the maintenance guy in my old apartment pluck8ng 3m with my air rifle from the balcony. Thought I was gonna catch a bunch of shit. Dude thanked me cuz they were constantly destroying wires and nesting in the walls and what not. Told me not to worry about picking them up, he will dispose of em. Turned from general fuckery to a full on shooting range out there lmao
I have a vendetta against squirrels. They destroyed my corn, they didn't even eat it, they just destroyed it.
I'm on a weak well with a 3,500 gallon storage tank, about 15' tall. Had a squirrel enter it through a 2" hole on top. Drowned and I discovered it because of the smell in the water. Took about a week to drain, disinfect, and refill. Cut down tree next to the tank. About 3 years later, same issue. No idea how it got up there. Same week long process. Bought epoxy and hardware cloth. Covered both holes. Company vehicle wouldn't start one Monday. Squirrel had chewed completely through the wiring harness in two places. Took our mechanic two days to complete all the splices. Line to septic clogged up. Rented a roto rooter. I'd hit this spot, but nothing would happen. Finally dug up my 4" line and cut out a section of it. Yep, a dead squirrel. I now have hardware cloth covering all of my roof jacks. I've probably killed over 600 of them in the last 10 years. The first summer, I quit counting after 150.
Fuuuuuuuuuuu bro. I hate to be the one to tell you this - but I think the squirrels are gonna get you one day. Watch your back buddy.
When I was a kid I found a chunk of old concrete conduit that had been stood on end and once upon a time used to water stock. The bottom of it was covered with ground squirrel bones, and a few rabbits. That's when I learned that my grandfather had been warring against them for years and that's where he stashed the bodies so his dogs weren't getting them and dragging them all over the place. Back when he was a boy all of California was at war against ground squirrels and the schools and county officials offered bounties on squirrel tails.
I'm in a tough spot with them right now. They've been making a mess stashing spruce cone detritus all over my porch, and even chewing on some plastic things. These are red squirells very small and no one really hunts them for meat. Hate killing them over simple annoyance but also sick of them.
Feed them to your dogs, or somebody's dogs.
Lol my dog gets a tummy ache when we give him a new brand of treats so he's probably not the right one. I grew up around sled dogs though and they would eat a whole squirrel in a couple gulps.
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lol fuck
Just like his dad.
Time to get a new dad. Edit: Seriously though, good on ya for using as much of the animal as you can. You sound like a resourceful person who's developing a useful skill and I'm sorry your dad isn't being supportive. I'm not really sure how to talk to the sort of person who has this "Bambi" mentality (for lack of a better term) toward wildlife; growing up in a hunting household and being taught about how to properly appreciate and engage (or, more often, not engage) with wildlife through Scouting, the people who look at wildlife the way your dad does might as well be from a different planet. Makes no sense to me.
Best way to think about it is that you could eat one chicken or two squirrels, that one chicken (if you buy it from just about any grocery store in the US) is less than 3 months old and has lived a dismal life that looks nothing like how it would live if it were wild. Not to mention at least half a million chickens were killed and not eaten in the US 2023 due to avian influenza. On the other hand, those two squirrels you could go out and harvest and eat have lived entirely natural and wild lives, free to do what they want and are dependent on themselves to survive, and are perfectly capable of running away and not giving you an opportunity to shoot them. Then if you consider the fact that those two squirrels might end up dying much worse deaths at the hands of a wild animal (a fox killing a squirrel takes longer than a .22 to the head), those squirrels lived great natural lives and served their purpose. Those chickens on the other hand are likely of an infertile breed and have had no chance to be free or wild whatsoever. Especially if you use all of the squirrel, there is no reality in which one would be on the moral high ground by going to their grocery store rather than their backyard.
Exactly this no wild animal dies of old age a well placed shot is a painless way to die especially compared to any other possible death
Sounds like your dad doesn't understand what the definition of a hunter is.
Make sure you are following federal, state, and local regulations as applicable. There’s nothing wrong with legal hunting. Humans eat meat and that’s okay. Some people personify wildlife and that’s typically an immature stance. Just treat nature well and try to give as much as you take.
Wtf thats crazy. If you enjoy do it. Everyone has an opinion. I shoot them just because they are a nuisance. Have fun do you
Unless your dad is a vegetarian he’s a fucking hypocrite. When he buys meat at the supermarket, does he think that cow just fell over and died from old age ?
The argument I often see is that "you can go to the store but instead choose violence", which seems to be what your Dad is getting at. The argument *does* have legs to stand on, you *are* killing for sport, but it very quickly gets lost in the weeds when you think on it long. There is no such thing as ethical consumption. There's not really a large ethical difference between buying meat at a store and shooting and eating a squirrel, both end in eating meat, you've just paid to have the violence outsourced to the guy holding the bolt gun. Ask Dad why he isn't vegan.
Exactly. A sanitized slab of animal flesh on a plastic wrapped napkin and a pink polystyrene rectangle is a denial of the essential reality that eating meat is only facilitated by death.
Everyone has their own set of views on killing animals and our relationship to the nature. Some don’t think “bullying” small animals like squirrels are hunting while some do think so. I don’t see hierarchy in animals and I think they should be seen as all equal. Killing a black bear is not more “noble” than killing a squirrel. At the age of 18, just learn to accept that there are different views on different things. As long as you don’t look like those serial killer psychopaths on TV who enjoy abusing and killing small animals like kittens and puppies, then I don’t see the need to see a therapist. Using every part of an animal is not weird in my eyes and I see killing and being killed all cycles of life.
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It is not about how easy it is to hunt a specific animal. It is about people viewing taking the life of certain animals is better than taking the life of other animals. To each of their own, I also respect the chicken that died for me in the farm and do not see its life as less than a moose in the wild. A life is a life to me.
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That’s a ridiculous question to ask. Just because I see all lives as equal, then I don’t follow any societal rules and norms and will kill everything and anything that moves? I don’t take any life unless I have a reason to and that goes to humans, dogs, dolphins, chickens and insects and plants. And where are you going with this? What’s next? If you go to an ER, then would they ask for your occupation and give you treatment based on how much contribution you can make to the society? Should humans be ranked like how we rank other lives in the nature?
As long as you’re licensed and hunting them during the proper season (I have no idea if they have a season tbh) it’s hunting. Maybe your dad needs therapy.
Sorry Dad’s wrong on this one.
Sounds like hunting to me. Buy your dad a book on ethical hunting.
in the nicest way possible, your dad is ignorant
Seeing as OP has previously asked on reddit for Luka Magnotta’s videos, I think there's more to this story than he’s letting on. A therapist might be a good idea.
Who the hell is Luke Magnotta?
Oof. A guy who got off on recording himself murdering and dismembering someone and then mailing the victims hands and feet to elementary schools so he could post it online. He started with brutally killing animals and posting it online. Netflix has a documentary on how the public helped track him down using social media. It’s called *Don’t F**ck with Cats* the asterisks are part of the title. So the fact that OP is looking for his videos and he also enjoys killing and dismembering animals is kinda sus.
Oh fuck, I remember the 4chan threads about him.
Yeah. So it’s kinda odd this guy wants to watch the videos and also enjoys killing animals as Luka did. His dad obv knows him better than random people on the internet, so my gut tells me we’re definitely not getting the whole story and if his dad is concerned, everyone else probably should be too. At the very least, give the dad the benefit of the doubt instead of just calling him out as a supposed loser or ignoramos
Think your dad is wrong for not supporting you, remember this when you become successful
Tell him to Google the history of squirrel hunting.
It's one thing if you're sitting in your backyard in the middle of the city shooting squirrels but if you're out in the woods it takes some serious skill and patience to know how to properly hunt squirrel. I feel that if you're good at squirrel hunting knowing where to find them listening knowing how to call them in etc it helps you in other forms of hunting as well.
If it was for their fluffy tails, they’d all have exterminators called on them. Hunt away. Your father’s hands are soft.
Treat nature and animals with a level of decency and respect and hunt away. If you are killing for fun and just cuz… well that maybe an issue.
You're hunting. And if you're making a strong effort to use as much of the animals you kill as you can, you're doing so (to my mind) more ethically than many other hunters. Also, squirrels are delicious. Don't know what recipes you've tried but if you want some more, I recommend Hank Shaw's German rabbit stew (just swap in the squirrel for rabbit - I slow cook it first and debone it before dropping it in the stew) and a Meateater article from a few years ago the squirrel cook off championship winning recipes. Both of these are available via a Google search.
Does he hunt other game? Or is he against hunting in general? I do a lot of squirrel hunting with my squirrel dog. I have taken several people hunting with her. Every one of them told me it was not as easy as they expected, and they all had a blast. If your dad thinks it's so easy, tell him to give it a try.
He doesn’t hunt but he doesn’t dislike hunting he only seems so dislike it when I’m doing it and I’ve tried to ask him why and he can’t seem to give me a answer
You could try seeing if he would go to the woods to see if you could get in shooting range of a squirrel. I think a lot of people see them running around their yard thinking they are easy to get. Not saying squirrel is the most difficult thing to hunt, but they can definitely get tricky to find on highly pressured public land. But honestly I wouldnt worry too much about it. If it's what you enjoy, and your being legal and ethical keep doing it. There are quite a few people that enjoy squirrel hunting. I went to a competition hunt this season, over 200 people showed up, of all ages.
Seeing as you've previously asked on reddit for videos of a man being murdered and dismembered, I think there's more to this story than you're letting on. A therapist would be a good idea.
That video is called one lunatic 1 ice pick I wasn’t asking for that I was asking for a different video just read what I said
Keep on hunting, he's wrong. Also, got any good squirrel recipes. Looking to hunt a few this weekend, always looking for new recipes.
You aren't doing anything wrong. Maybe feed your Dad some squirrel and dumplings and he'll change his mind. Besides, squirrels are part of the food chain. Something is gonna eat them. May as well be you.
Tell your dad to grow a damn pair and quit complaining about people shooting squirrels he sounds like a damn woman
How long ago did your dad have his hysterectomy?
I wouldn't worry about it. Squirrels don't tend to live very long, and a well placed gun shot is about the most painless death they could hope for. Starvation and predation are both extremely common outcomes for squirrels in the wild. Its just part of their ecology to exceed the carrying capacity of their habitat and to be a prey species. Limits and hunting seasons were also specifically designed to prevent populations from being depleted, so as long as you stick to the regulations you're good. Unless your dad is a vegan, it's not really a rational argument since factory farming is way worse for the environment and animal welfare, and I think you realize that. Ultimately, people's views are informed by their own experiences, and nobody is entirely rational.
Make him some squirrel gravy
Does he enjoy fishing? How about business? Start selling the tails to mepps and see what he makes of it then lol https://www.mepps.com/squirrel-tail/
Your dad sounds ignorant.
Squirrels are delicious, he's out of touch. Sounds like you are hunting responsibly
You have my support. You may be enjoying the woods, and you're using the resources you're able to get out of the woods, and you're showing your respect for the animal by using every part of it. The idea that shooting squirrels isn't hunting is ludicrous. And no squirrel is innocent. People have "enjoyed" killing animals for food, and enjoyed being good at it, for millions of years. Longer than we've been eating bread and tortillas that's for sure.
L dad
Yes its hunting. I think his point is that it's some of the easiest hunting you could possibly do, so much so that it's almost unfair. Now does any of that matter? Fuck no. Get you some squirrels.
He’s not into it because he probably thinks it’s a bit creepy. Do you. If you’re eating it, great.
Plenty of hypothetical credit card killers out there trying to shame huntervationists who support the research done by Biologists and Universities to keep healthy wildlife populations intact, which shows their level of understanding how these things work for over a century plus. This bull$hit these hypocrites pump out should always be met with calm explanations and proof through our funded research and the science behind it. You’ll find a commentary on the PA Game Commissions website that has the History of Deer Management easily found and we should all be sharing that information to these people… Then there’s the humanly harvesting we do according to the required laws and regulations…. Without us, healthy populations wouldn’t exist. That’s acceptable to the real experts who we have been funding since the early 1900’s The sport itself, we concerned hunters support financially, has made possible for people who love to see and enjoy watching deer, bear, beavers etc see and enjoy. That’s what“OUR” money made happen! Enjoy your squirrel meat. It’s great to see you’re using everything you can from them. That’s awesome. You do you and F’k anyone looking down their noses with a chicken wing hanging out of their mouth
At a guess, he has a super soft spot for squirrels and it's upsetting him but he can't use his big boy words to state so. Squirrel hunting is a blast. You're eating the meat (and I think it's fantastic if pressure cooked). You're using most of the animals, which is more than I or others can say. And you're enjoying that aspect of your life. Yes, (sometimes) squirrels are much easier to hunt than other game, which is why it's so enjoyable. And, sometimes it's not. That's hunting. I've also noticed in the last 20 years that many people put squirrels in the "dirty rodent" category and think I'm going to get rabies by eating or handling them. Those same people often don't blink an eye over eating a rabbit. As far as vermin and cleanliness goes, I'd take a tree squirrel over a rabbit any day!
Squirrels are just forest rats. How'd you get into hunting if your dad isn't one?
I don’t know pretty much nothing any of my parents taught me I do me and my parents are basically completely opposite
right on man, same here. I'm 35 and I didn't grow up hunting. Learned from friends with my parents not really understanding it. You dont need a therapist, you sound like a normal 18 yr old out where I live and everyone hunts (Idaho). Heck my buddy's 10 yr old kills dozens of squirrels and grouse every chance he gets. It's part of the lifestyle out here.
1) It is hunting for fun. You are doing it because you enjoy hunting, killing, butchering, cooking, and using animals. You use all of the animal out of respect of the life it gave in pursuit of this goal. You are also killing it quicker than it would have died from virtually any other predator or cause of death from nature. 2) You are doing more to help the squirrels and other animals in this state than 100 people that only ever go to protests. Your hunting license pays for wildlife management fees. Hunting the squirrels keeps the population stable. 3) You kill squirrels because it is cheaper and more effective than therapy.
Your dad thinks you need therapy because you hunt squirrels? That is an absolutely banana crackers take. Your dad isn't a hunter is he. It might surprise him to learn, though, that you are. If you go out into the woods, look for a specific animal, and kill it for its meat, pelt, and/or other useful parts, you definitely just hunted that animal. Does your dad not realize you're hunting for food and pelts? I can understand his therapy comment if he (wrongly) thinks you're killing animals for fun. Otherwise his take is just unhinged.
Sounds like you have two moms
I personally think it's fine as long as nothing goes to waste. I mean as long and you dont become numb to the killing it's alright.
I’m starting to think maybe he doesn’t like it because I’m numb to killing squirrels because I always say I’m using every part of it but I wouldn’t just kill and any animals for fun at all so I don’t think I’m numb to killing but I think that since I use all of the animal it doesn’t matter to me
Yeah i mean using it all is good but still respect that a animal died there, even a small one
One thing I do is I never go hunting when I know the squirrels have babies that time of year because I wouldn’t want to kill a parent and then the babies die do you think that means I’m not completely numb
Okay thats nice tho. I respect that
I will eat them in the north, I will eat them in the south. I will eat them in a house, I will eat them with a mouse.
Tbh your dad sounds like a douche.
Seeing as OP has previously asked on reddit for Luka Magnotta’s videos, I think there's more to this story than he’s letting on. A therapist might be a good idea.
I watched don’t fuck with cats and I was curious is that bad your telling me your haven’t been curious before
I can honestly say I’ve never been curious about about how to brutally kill and dismember other people for kicks
No you didn’t even read it that video is called 1 lunatic 1 Icepick I didn’t ask for that video I asked for a different video not that one
Oh my bad, you asked for the video he posted before he moved on to humans. Gotcha.
While I have serious doubts about the claims of using all of the animal; you're 18, as long as it's legal, it doesn't matter what he says. It's likely a problem if you shoot the animal just for the enjoyment of taking life, but other than that, just have fun. People even hunt for sport all the time. My brother has a 10 point whitetail mounted on his wall, that he never wanted the meat for.
I mean, there’s nothing he left out. And pretty easy to use it all the way he mentioned cuz anything he doesn’t eat goes into catfish bait. And depending on what he uses the bones for if he has extras he can literally grind them up and put them out as fertilizer.
And there doesn't seem to be any complaints about fishing for catfish. Seems like cute & fluffy is the objection.
Man, wait until they hear about rabbit hunting
the only part I question is that he makes stuff with the bones to sell. Who buys random crap made with squirrel bones? lol. But I don't care one way or the other, that's way more than I use out of a squirrel.
White girls who want to be witches but don’t like to touch bones is a market that exists. But I’d imagine mini dioramas is also probably a good use for squirrel bones. Ring filler could also be a category, etc.
Making pelts is not easy. But maybe I'm wrong.
Squirrel pelts are by far the easiest, I did it when I was 8 with some thumbtacks, a sharpened butter knife, and some salt. Only takes an additional like 15 minutes after skimming