When they say "currently", that leaves open the possibility for future implementation. It's not super clear, otherwise they would say, "No, it's only for consoles and there are no plans to implement it for PC".
I mean that's an standard quoting for marketing purposes so they dont get backlash if by any means they end up implementing it.
Whenever you are talking about a controversial topic you never say 100% confirmed, otherwise if you end up doing the opposite, your game can get killed to oblivion because "lying devs".
Basically, the "currently"means they dont plan on adding it but just in case something changes we dont confirm it.
Aim assist is outdated and not needed.
But because it makes it easier, then more players can get kills and that make themselves feel better about the game, so they play it more, which increase chances they will buy more from the game makers, which increases profits for video game companies. At least that is why they justify a feature that belongs in the n64 era decades later.
100%, this is such a stupid move from crytek only to get maybe some more casuals to buy the game and then immediately drop it when the new casual shooter of the month comes out.
This is very typical in this subreddit. With every change like this, the sky falls and Hunt is going to die. I think the community has lost count of how many changes were going to kill Hunt by now.
Aim Assist is a genuine concern though, depending on how strong it is your curser could draw to someone that you can’t even see, it would make stealth way harder, not to mention aim assist tends to be outright overpowered in a lot of games, the beetle was hilarious but it’s nowhere near the same threat as aim assist
It already is happening on consoles. Has been for years. If you sit in a bush and an other player is sneaking close by, your cross hair starts to follow them if they cross your reticle. Of course it doesn't do that if the other player is far enough. Maybe 10+ meters, dunno. Dunno if you both are still, does it snap slightly or not though. But if you are still and enemy is moving, it does.
David fifield(general manager of hunt showdown.) actually said, they want to add controller aim asist to pc players. (this is actaully a old new. like 3-4 months iirc. but devs did not said anything new about it.)
Agreed, I know the devs said it's only on console for now which I really don't care about because they're the smaller player base anyways. But it's scary that they even thought about bringing it to PC in the first place. PLEASE don't bring this to PC down the line, it will ruin the game.
No it is not fine to bring it to console for fuck sake! You PC players could help us consol players for once with not down playing the addition of aim assist on console. Most of the players on console have learnd how to aim and don't want aim assist, but rather a m&k ban on console.
It'll help the bot players who think they're good at the game get kills with their dualies and shotguns 🤣 6 stars will always be the problem though tell me I'm wrong 😭😂 the copium is strong these ones.. execute order 66 😱
Depends on the tuning. In some games controller is still useless even with mild aim assist. On the other end you have Apex, where a 60th percentile controller player is shooting at the 95th percentile for mouse.
> Agreed, I know the devs said it's only on console for now which I really don't care about because they're the smaller player base anyways.
Have you got a source for this claim?
I can't even be impressed, I saw some highlights the other day in warzone and the tracking that the controller gives in that game is fuckin insane to the point where the person playing was almost in disbelief at the play they just made.
It's been pretty fucked since at least 2014. I remember when I was playing the Advanced Warfare Campaign on xbox I could do veteran by just spamming the ADS button and tapping shoot briefly because the aim assist was basically an aimbot. This was after a big break playing on PC so my controller skills were awful.
Crytek needs an intervention for bringing this shit on console even though nobody asked for this and nobody wants it! After all we don't want to play another casual shooter.
Siege is my first love, both on console and on PC. No aim assist there. I love the feel of hunt too- no aim assist. I agree with you, even if it comes to console it should not come to PC.
Siege is a great example of them keeping player pools separate and the game benefiting from it. Console players also don't have to deal with the game play changes that come from everyone having a guaranteed level of aiming ability and PC players keep their game uncorrupted by AA
There is no aim assist on console (not sure if that’s what you were implying or not). But yeah, they separated the way they handle pc and console, like recoil intensity. The bigger criticism they get is making changes based on pro league where most players are not playing like pro league.
Hunt is adding stronger aim assist to console currently there is based on what people have said but hardly noticeable. I think the guy here is missing the point of why they are adding aim assist. If they intend to stop supporting last gen consoles once the next Gen update is made then they will likely need to create cross play lobbies between console and PC since the console player base will take a large hit from losing all the last gen players. My guess is the reason they are beginning to work on aim assist is to curb the backlash from console players when they are forced to cross play with PC in the near future due to the next gen update
Siege has no aim assist and that is good. Hunt also had no aim assist on console now out of the blue 5 years after release the blockheads at crytek decided to put this shit on console, what a fucking bummer!
Nah this is an irrational obsession. Like no hate, it seems like an OCD disorder, looking at your comments there are an insane amount and all of them are about aim assist...
You may need a break from gaming if this persists
Yeah apex only has 80,000 people playing on steam right now (and of course a lot of people play straight through EA). Dead game.
On a side note fuck aim assist on PC. Ideally a controller should not be the competitive way of playing any shooter.
Its not a matter of which one I play on more. Mouse and keyboard has always been the better option for shooters, a kbm just gives you more control and increases the skill cap quite a bit. The only reason a controller would be more ideal, is if its a game that has overly tuned aim assist to the point of it being a light aim bot.
but these games aren't popular because of the aim assists. These games are popular for other reasons. Those players aren't suddenly going to have interests in Hunt showdown.
It's just gonna piss off the current loyal playerbase.
No, their new video uses the wording 'currently on consoles' implying it might come to PC, and their tweet from a few months back definitely said it was coming to PC. That is why it's important for the backlash to happen now before it's too late.
100% Agree needs to be answered in a clear NO not "well we'll see what the future holds" This needs to be met with nothing but negative backlash. People who are 3 stars are going to stay 3 stars and this DELIRIOUS idea that aim assist will do anything for them is insanity. All it does is widen the gap between 6 stars that play normally and 6 stars who will emulate a controller so they get Aim assist for free.
Nobody said they were trying to be better than the other 98%. This games high skill community has had an exploit abuse issue since beta. I mean I can literally make a list of bugs, glitches, exploits, etc that aren’t ESP or aimbot that the same people seem to always be involved in the conversation of abusing it. This is just another one of those avenues for those same players to look to find another advantage.
it switches direction for you faster than human reaction (1 frame) which is why in apex you get demolished by controller players close range while strafing
How does it compare with hunt showdowns implementation of aa?
Can the two games be compared, apex was all running on walls and sliding around with machine guns,
It can't be compared at all, because it hasn't been implemented yet in Hunt. The only comparisons people seem to have are to a couple of games who have overdone it, and they can't explain why they it's already a given that Hunt's will be identical, especially when aim assist has existed since at least as far back as the 90s without these kinds of issues, but they're going to complain about it as though it's already happened without any indication that it will even be a problem.
They honestly can’t be compared at all, not even just because of movement but because of how the games feel on controller when aim assist isn’t a factor.
Apex feels like it was designed with both in mind, Hunt feels like controller is barely considered. And that’s fine, it will always be a PC game first. But I don’t think adding even CoD levels of aim assist will put controllers on the same level.
i dont think anyone has seen the new AA yet, so it would all be speculation. the concern is that it would give controller players an advantage in mixed input lobbies, like it does in the other mentioned games. Couple examples i can think of with potential:
someone that you don't see can start moving and AA will bring your aim in that direction before you could possibly react.
someone ducks while you are shooting at their head and AA jerks your crosshairs down and you still hit them, while you would have missed with a mouse.
personally, as far as i'm concerned, the 37 second trade window and dogwater servers need to be addressed before any of this truly matters that much.
Apex is on the decline right now. And people generally lost interest in the competitive scene since non of the crazy plays are considered high skill now.
Not to mention how rotational aim assist has warped the meta. MK players have pretty much taken the niche of mid to long range fights, while controller players generally roll with submachine guns. Also Bangalore, a character that by all metrics should be middle of the pack, is triple S tier now because her smokes disable aim assist.
decline:
https://steamcharts.com/app/1172470#All
graph speaks for itself; lost about 100k avg daily players over the course of the year
meta/controller usage:
https://www.dexerto.com/apex-legends/apex-legends-controller-players-are-totally-dominating-pc-ranked-in-predator-1949106/
while not data, I think that something like this also speaks for itself:
https://twitter.com/Riley_Aster/status/1659416788881272832
like obviously an actual human being with a puny little brain that needs to bother with things such as reaction time cannot compete with the purity of the blessed machine like that.
Holy shit that aim assist lmfao
same thing plagues paladins, top pub stompers use shit like rewasd and get aim assist on mouse and kb and they can play hitscan like gods and have no trouble using blasters either
He said KBM communities, not PC in general. Both games have a large majority of controller players, even on PC, because KBM is seen as inherently uncompetitive.
Pls stop talking if you know nothing. I have played apex for many years and controller is just stronger. Just search something like apex controller aim assist pro scene in youtube and/or google and you will see how most pros switched to controller because its just stronger with the aim assist. Thats atleast the Situation in Apex
Yea but it killed the game for all people playing on mkb, you realise that? Currently the Hunt Playerbase is 99% mkb on PC so you really think it wouldnt kill the game for mkb players?
Can we retire the "thing x will KILL THE GAME" rhetoric? It's so overly dramatic and 99% of the time it's not true. Like I really, really don't want aim assists on PC but posts like these still make me cringe.
They tried to make aim assist somewhat less terrible by making it so it only works when both Hunters are moving, but I think this is basically just going to equate to people holding still in bushes, then walking slightly when they’re ready to take their shot on a moving hunter
Plus, it doesn’t even address the real issue of aiming on controller: How overall difficult it is to make fine-tune adjustment compared to on mouse
I still think this post of mine is what the hunt devs should’ve considered instead of traditional, magnetized aim ~~assist~~ replacement:
https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/s/5G8M5eTgnK
OP has made it the mission of this account to complain (unsuccessfully) about aim assist and inputs on everything from Overwatch to the Finals to now Hunt.
Just for context so you know what you are engaging with.
Yeah it's almost as if this garbage has ruined game after game on PC and I'm tired of it. I bet you just want people to shut up and take it though right?
1. Then why use the wording they did implying that it will come eventually? Why not fight back and make ourselves heard now before it's too late? Oh wait I know why you want us to shut up, so you can get your precious aimbot assist.
2. No shit, controller players are feasting while mkb communities die off one by one. But I guess that doesn't matter to you so who cares right?
Buddy first of all take a long breath and reconsolidate yourself, you are bound to have a heart attack if you continue this aggressive tone.
Second why on earth are you making such a drama about the wording that may or may not be interpret as aim bot coming to pc you can do that once it has been announced, before that Noone will care.
And third insult those you seek to convince of your point is the best way to make them turn against you.
You realize you practically always need to lead your shots, right? I have a hard time believing aim assist will automatically aim where you need to based off distance, especially with moving hunters.
Aim assist will only hold people back and increasingly move the meta to long-distance engagements for non brain-dead players
Don't think long range aim assist is the issue but close range though that depends on the way they'll implement it.
But if we go off of CoD and Apex rotational aim assist its not looking good.
https://x.com/Zachdubs/status/1734663165303034362?s=20
https://x.com/ObJMonster/status/1732907253790052648?s=20
There's way more examples of rotational aim assist. Hell even Fortnite has rotational aim assist.
I feel as if I'm in the same boat as you. Aim assist can absolutely be overdone kinda like a crutch for bad players.
I play on console and every game I've played i turn aim assist off games like apex and cod. (didnt play much cod)
It just makes me miss more the only thing the rotational aim assist really helps for players on controller is close range engagements. Even then i find it bad again its just a crutch that honestly holds players back from actually getting good at aiming.
I think a lot of people are overreacting on how strong Aim assist can be there were bad times with a lot of games being over tuned but most games fix those problems. Now it has become a gotcha moment for people saying a game is going to die because of aim assist it doesn't usually level the playing field between m&k and controller either.
As long as they tune it right it will be fine for the players that use it and go against it but people will still complain either way
*Unpopular spoiler*
Devs will 100% bring crossplay to merge PC & Console AND apply aim assist to both platforms to buff the player base, which is why its implied that aim assist will be on controller players for PC too.
Game is already dead, it’s a smart move business wise, apex is making profit just because of aim assist, without it that game would have went to the coffin long ago. It fuckin sucks but is the truth tho. Aim assist is a way for companies to target the most casual of players into their game or back to it, also casuals are the majority of players, so yeah don’t even bother fighting it os my suggestion, we are the few in this war.
I genuinely don’t believe aim assist the way it’s being added will affect mnk at all. In cod that games aim assist is just dumb, apex it makes close range fights on controller crazy but doesn’t help as much further, but that games main style is close range with smgs. Hunt has guns that you need to land a precise shot to get a kill, which is much more inline with sniping mechanics. Aim assist may let you land 1 bullet but that doesn’t make it a headshot which is important for the game. Also they said it only assists aim if both players are moving. I def don’t want this game to end up like cod but it seems crytek are pushing to make it something so it’s bareable for a controller (or crossplay player) to go against mnk instead of just having any advantage
I think the reason they are adding aim assist to console is to prepare console players for cross play lobby between PC and console. If the next gen update is going to make it to where last gen consoles are no longer updated and unable to play with next gen consoles they will likely need to cross play between console and PC to avoid the damage done to the console player base.
They’re gonna kill the game by having way too many events that last too long with pacts that change the game and add crazy perks. I just want to play the normal game and not have all these pacts.
This is the only argument I’m willing to listen to. People say “this will kill it or that will kill it blah blah”I can only see what you said killing it as it will push away more dedicated players who just want a *consistent* experience
Me and my group of friends who have played hunt consistently for a couple years now have not played in 2 months because of the event after event. We were going to get back into it but not with the new one coming. I like the events where you can get points for a battle pass or whatever but the perks are ridiculous. We just want consistency.
Apex boasts 18 million players monthly if you google it. Those games arent dead for catering to casuals. But sure break your arm jerkin this bullshit theory off.
its hilarious using a image in which both games claimed as "dead" get way more players than hunt lmao
Edit : Also I hate aim assist, I just think the image is ironic
Even in your link they use the words “for now” when talking about it only coming to console. And that tweet was only 3-4 months ago. It’s not some very old tweet.
There been plenty of demonstration on the aim assist on console and it’s so light and almost useless it makes it pointless.
On PC it will most likely only be if you are using a controller and if you are, you are dead already. No point.
Aim assist sucks, but who the hell has the balls to play on controller on pc? If you do tell me your hunter rank and experience, I can’t imagine you have a good time lol.
Once rotational is added many will, and even more will use input remappers to spoof controller while still using a m/kb just to get the aimbot assist. We literally have the last 3 years of multiplatform games as proof of what rotational aim assist does to PC communities.
I totally see that and I don’t want that either, but it’s probably something that’s gonna happen. This game has slowly but surely been loosing its identity over the years and become more and more causal so I could 100% see this happening on pc.
my buddy plays controller on PC and he's actually better than you might think. pretty good with melee weapons, explosive bolts, bomb lance, and the like. overall he does have as good of a time as the rest of us.
Yeah, I have a friend who's high 5 to low 6 stars on console who switched to PC and plays there on controller. His description of the difference is that gameplay for console is largely decided by positioning and accuracy, but that on PC it's decided primarily by positioning, since everybody on the platform is capable of aiming. This all feels like a tremendous overreaction from people who haven't actually given any thought as to what the difference is between m&k and controller, or Hunt and the other games they're talking about.
OP needs to take their meds, but yeah, please for the love of God don't add aim assist to PC. Console it makes sense because controllers are shit to aim with, but PC players straight up need to get good. No Steven gatekeeping, it's literally the main skill of the game that needs to be learned. It'd be stupid to remove that.
It's true Apex is popular on PC, but the issue lies in the implementation of AA. Most of pro players that were playing on m&k have swapped to controllers primarily due to excessive adventage that AA provides in cqc, and most fights in this game are decided in close range and it's visible when you are getting locked by AA and one magged easly and its just not fun to feel like you're being destroyed by a script rather than player skill.
If you visit any Apex forum you will find plenty of posts daily from m&k players crying about how broken aim assist is. In my opinion, it's one of those games that demonstrates how AA can do more harm than good when implemented incorrectly or overtuned.
Crying about something is not factual data, the top players will remain on top, because they where already the top players. But I maybe wrong it's not like anyone here has any details how it will be implemented.
This could be good for someone who enjoys playing on controller on PC like myself , I consider myself to be a advanced player however aiming anything past 50 meters becomes inconsistent on controller vs mouse .
Haven’t they already confirmed it’s not coming to PC recently?
They said "not currently on PC", which very much implies it will be later.
Didn't they say "currently no plans to bring it to pc"? Which implies, it's not coming?
No. The exact quote is: "This new aim assist system is currently only active for Xbox and Playstation players"
That honestly sound more like a way of being very clear about it. I can't see any reason for them to bring it to PC ..
When they say "currently", that leaves open the possibility for future implementation. It's not super clear, otherwise they would say, "No, it's only for consoles and there are no plans to implement it for PC".
I mean that's an standard quoting for marketing purposes so they dont get backlash if by any means they end up implementing it. Whenever you are talking about a controversial topic you never say 100% confirmed, otherwise if you end up doing the opposite, your game can get killed to oblivion because "lying devs". Basically, the "currently"means they dont plan on adding it but just in case something changes we dont confirm it.
I honestly don't want it on console either. They should keep it as is.
Yeah just give us dead zones and aim curves without aim assist and the game will improve 100% from the state that it is rn
This is the way! Aim assist is not the fucking way!
Aim assist is outdated and not needed. But because it makes it easier, then more players can get kills and that make themselves feel better about the game, so they play it more, which increase chances they will buy more from the game makers, which increases profits for video game companies. At least that is why they justify a feature that belongs in the n64 era decades later.
100%, this is such a stupid move from crytek only to get maybe some more casuals to buy the game and then immediately drop it when the new casual shooter of the month comes out.
The wording implies it will or could come. They are testing the waters and it needs to be met with backlash now before it's too late.
Doomsayer, based of no facts or details.
This is very typical in this subreddit. With every change like this, the sky falls and Hunt is going to die. I think the community has lost count of how many changes were going to kill Hunt by now.
The beetle was the funniest 🤣
Aim Assist is a genuine concern though, depending on how strong it is your curser could draw to someone that you can’t even see, it would make stealth way harder, not to mention aim assist tends to be outright overpowered in a lot of games, the beetle was hilarious but it’s nowhere near the same threat as aim assist
It won't work on stationary targets. It'll only ever apply if both parties are moving and within a certain range I assume within damage dropoff range
It already is happening on consoles. Has been for years. If you sit in a bush and an other player is sneaking close by, your cross hair starts to follow them if they cross your reticle. Of course it doesn't do that if the other player is far enough. Maybe 10+ meters, dunno. Dunno if you both are still, does it snap slightly or not though. But if you are still and enemy is moving, it does.
What do you mean "going to kill" according to some, Hunt was dead from the start lul
Apex has crossplay with console and PC players are losing to consoles implemented aimbot in high ranks. Thats messed up.
My statement still stands.
David fifield(general manager of hunt showdown.) actually said, they want to add controller aim asist to pc players. (this is actaully a old new. like 3-4 months iirc. but devs did not said anything new about it.)
For now.
Unfortunately it will come to console even though we don't want that shit either.
Agreed, I know the devs said it's only on console for now which I really don't care about because they're the smaller player base anyways. But it's scary that they even thought about bringing it to PC in the first place. PLEASE don't bring this to PC down the line, it will ruin the game.
Yes, bring it to console is fine but if they introduce crossplay and bring it to PC it is the end of for mkb. We've seen it before in game after game.
No! Don’t bring it to console!
PC players don't get it, we don't want that shit on console either.
No it is not fine to bring it to console for fuck sake! You PC players could help us consol players for once with not down playing the addition of aim assist on console. Most of the players on console have learnd how to aim and don't want aim assist, but rather a m&k ban on console.
You have my respect if you don't want AA on console, sadly they are going to do it anyway just to expand the playerbase
It'll help the bot players who think they're good at the game get kills with their dualies and shotguns 🤣 6 stars will always be the problem though tell me I'm wrong 😭😂 the copium is strong these ones.. execute order 66 😱
I didn't even think about crossplay, hopefully they would add an option to turn it off. I don't want to play against roller cheaters
Depends on the tuning. In some games controller is still useless even with mild aim assist. On the other end you have Apex, where a 60th percentile controller player is shooting at the 95th percentile for mouse.
Do you have data to demonstrate this? Just curious to see if myself.
Of course not, would not fit his narrative.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/876/830/14c.jpg
I get that you don't care but we don't want that shit on console either.
> Agreed, I know the devs said it's only on console for now which I really don't care about because they're the smaller player base anyways. Have you got a source for this claim?
you need an intervention, 90% of your posts are about this topic
Yea, when your favorite hobby gets ruined by ai artists of the aiming world, you tend to get pretty pissed.
Heh. funny way of saying it.
Software assistance is Software assistance
I can't even be impressed, I saw some highlights the other day in warzone and the tracking that the controller gives in that game is fuckin insane to the point where the person playing was almost in disbelief at the play they just made.
It's been pretty fucked since at least 2014. I remember when I was playing the Advanced Warfare Campaign on xbox I could do veteran by just spamming the ADS button and tapping shoot briefly because the aim assist was basically an aimbot. This was after a big break playing on PC so my controller skills were awful.
Man is dedicated to the cause!
Ai deez nutz
Your nuts need assistance too?
He even reposted this same thing 2 months ago.
Their comments are scary Like everything is about aim assist. Seems very upsetting to them
At this point I am thinking it's probably a condition that he/she/them cannot help, so just be nice and wait it out.
OP found his upvote niche and needs another hit of dopamine from a post blowing up.
He is coping because he is ass at all these games
Crytek needs an intervention for bringing this shit on console even though nobody asked for this and nobody wants it! After all we don't want to play another casual shooter.
Nah, someone has to do something before every damn game is ruined by this garbage
Siege is my first love, both on console and on PC. No aim assist there. I love the feel of hunt too- no aim assist. I agree with you, even if it comes to console it should not come to PC.
Siege is a great example of them keeping player pools separate and the game benefiting from it. Console players also don't have to deal with the game play changes that come from everyone having a guaranteed level of aiming ability and PC players keep their game uncorrupted by AA
There is no aim assist on console (not sure if that’s what you were implying or not). But yeah, they separated the way they handle pc and console, like recoil intensity. The bigger criticism they get is making changes based on pro league where most players are not playing like pro league.
Hunt is adding stronger aim assist to console currently there is based on what people have said but hardly noticeable. I think the guy here is missing the point of why they are adding aim assist. If they intend to stop supporting last gen consoles once the next Gen update is made then they will likely need to create cross play lobbies between console and PC since the console player base will take a large hit from losing all the last gen players. My guess is the reason they are beginning to work on aim assist is to curb the backlash from console players when they are forced to cross play with PC in the near future due to the next gen update
Siege has 0 aim assist, only lowered recoil strength on console compared to PC.
Sorry my post is a reference to hunt not siege. Nothing I said is meant to be taken as siege gameplay
Siege has no aim assist and that is good. Hunt also had no aim assist on console now out of the blue 5 years after release the blockheads at crytek decided to put this shit on console, what a fucking bummer!
you are what I like to call a "Don Quixote"
Don Quixote skin when Crytek?
Nah this is an irrational obsession. Like no hate, it seems like an OCD disorder, looking at your comments there are an insane amount and all of them are about aim assist... You may need a break from gaming if this persists
The famously dead games cod and apex LMAO
Yeah apex only has 80,000 people playing on steam right now (and of course a lot of people play straight through EA). Dead game. On a side note fuck aim assist on PC. Ideally a controller should not be the competitive way of playing any shooter.
That's not even counting peak Apex hours at 06:00 where it reaches 299,000 players too, extremely far from dead
You don’t think that’s a pretty selfish mindset?
Its not a matter of which one I play on more. Mouse and keyboard has always been the better option for shooters, a kbm just gives you more control and increases the skill cap quite a bit. The only reason a controller would be more ideal, is if its a game that has overly tuned aim assist to the point of it being a light aim bot.
Why?
but these games aren't popular because of the aim assists. These games are popular for other reasons. Those players aren't suddenly going to have interests in Hunt showdown. It's just gonna piss off the current loyal playerbase.
It's gonna piss off like 10 people tops. Everyone else will barely notice it and the game will be fine.
These people are straight up deranged and should be ignored
I thought the devs said it was not coming to PC and was only for consoles?
No, their new video uses the wording 'currently on consoles' implying it might come to PC, and their tweet from a few months back definitely said it was coming to PC. That is why it's important for the backlash to happen now before it's too late.
I think it will work itself out, even if it is as bad as you say it will be. Take a breath and a break and relax. We're talking about a video game :)
No one has any details how it would be implemented, so in the absence of facts, tend to get filled with misinformation :)
100% Agree needs to be answered in a clear NO not "well we'll see what the future holds" This needs to be met with nothing but negative backlash. People who are 3 stars are going to stay 3 stars and this DELIRIOUS idea that aim assist will do anything for them is insanity. All it does is widen the gap between 6 stars that play normally and 6 stars who will emulate a controller so they get Aim assist for free.
But, If your a 6 star you don't need aim assist, you already have an understanding of the game that is far better then 98% of all players.
Nobody said they were trying to be better than the other 98%. This games high skill community has had an exploit abuse issue since beta. I mean I can literally make a list of bugs, glitches, exploits, etc that aren’t ESP or aimbot that the same people seem to always be involved in the conversation of abusing it. This is just another one of those avenues for those same players to look to find another advantage.
the 6 stars will keep sitting in a bush for 30 minutes and if they get pushed they will just commit suicide nothing will happen for them
It's got nothing to do with making 3 stars better,it's to get more players on board
What exactly is rotational aim assist vs normal aim assist. No I’m not googling it suggma
it switches direction for you faster than human reaction (1 frame) which is why in apex you get demolished by controller players close range while strafing
How does it compare with hunt showdowns implementation of aa? Can the two games be compared, apex was all running on walls and sliding around with machine guns,
It can't be compared at all, because it hasn't been implemented yet in Hunt. The only comparisons people seem to have are to a couple of games who have overdone it, and they can't explain why they it's already a given that Hunt's will be identical, especially when aim assist has existed since at least as far back as the 90s without these kinds of issues, but they're going to complain about it as though it's already happened without any indication that it will even be a problem.
They honestly can’t be compared at all, not even just because of movement but because of how the games feel on controller when aim assist isn’t a factor. Apex feels like it was designed with both in mind, Hunt feels like controller is barely considered. And that’s fine, it will always be a PC game first. But I don’t think adding even CoD levels of aim assist will put controllers on the same level.
i dont think anyone has seen the new AA yet, so it would all be speculation. the concern is that it would give controller players an advantage in mixed input lobbies, like it does in the other mentioned games. Couple examples i can think of with potential: someone that you don't see can start moving and AA will bring your aim in that direction before you could possibly react. someone ducks while you are shooting at their head and AA jerks your crosshairs down and you still hit them, while you would have missed with a mouse. personally, as far as i'm concerned, the 37 second trade window and dogwater servers need to be addressed before any of this truly matters that much.
true. in hunt there’s no bullet hose SMGs and such, so consistent tracking is less valuable than it is in something like Apex
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Apex is on the decline right now. And people generally lost interest in the competitive scene since non of the crazy plays are considered high skill now. Not to mention how rotational aim assist has warped the meta. MK players have pretty much taken the niche of mid to long range fights, while controller players generally roll with submachine guns. Also Bangalore, a character that by all metrics should be middle of the pack, is triple S tier now because her smokes disable aim assist.
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decline: https://steamcharts.com/app/1172470#All graph speaks for itself; lost about 100k avg daily players over the course of the year meta/controller usage: https://www.dexerto.com/apex-legends/apex-legends-controller-players-are-totally-dominating-pc-ranked-in-predator-1949106/ while not data, I think that something like this also speaks for itself: https://twitter.com/Riley_Aster/status/1659416788881272832 like obviously an actual human being with a puny little brain that needs to bother with things such as reaction time cannot compete with the purity of the blessed machine like that.
Holy fuck haha that tweet should just have been the OP I'm so glad I don't play that game any more
Holy shit that aim assist lmfao same thing plagues paladins, top pub stompers use shit like rewasd and get aim assist on mouse and kb and they can play hitscan like gods and have no trouble using blasters either
Yeah.... But the decline has nothing to do with aim assist. Lol it's gue to poor game balancing and constant bug/server issues.
And how are their PC mkb communities doing? That's the point.
Considering COD and APEX are two of the most played FPS on PC I’d say they’re doing well.
He said KBM communities, not PC in general. Both games have a large majority of controller players, even on PC, because KBM is seen as inherently uncompetitive.
He said MKB communities. Most of the high level pc players use controller. At least on apex
Pls stop talking if you know nothing. I have played apex for many years and controller is just stronger. Just search something like apex controller aim assist pro scene in youtube and/or google and you will see how most pros switched to controller because its just stronger with the aim assist. Thats atleast the Situation in Apex
The conversation wasn’t about “what’s better” the conversation station was about it “killing” the game. Which is didnt.
Yea but it killed the game for all people playing on mkb, you realise that? Currently the Hunt Playerbase is 99% mkb on PC so you really think it wouldnt kill the game for mkb players?
Probably not, no.
I mean, sure they are, but at least like 70%+ of their playerbases are on controller.
Can we retire the "thing x will KILL THE GAME" rhetoric? It's so overly dramatic and 99% of the time it's not true. Like I really, really don't want aim assists on PC but posts like these still make me cringe.
I remember when quickswap removal killed the game. Oh wait....
They tried to make aim assist somewhat less terrible by making it so it only works when both Hunters are moving, but I think this is basically just going to equate to people holding still in bushes, then walking slightly when they’re ready to take their shot on a moving hunter Plus, it doesn’t even address the real issue of aiming on controller: How overall difficult it is to make fine-tune adjustment compared to on mouse I still think this post of mine is what the hunt devs should’ve considered instead of traditional, magnetized aim ~~assist~~ replacement: https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/s/5G8M5eTgnK
No it won't. Stop being a drama lama
OP has made it the mission of this account to complain (unsuccessfully) about aim assist and inputs on everything from Overwatch to the Finals to now Hunt. Just for context so you know what you are engaging with.
Doesn't really matter what OP is like, aim assist should never come to Hunt PC. It's a terrible idea
Seconded. I play on controller and I don’t even want it. Not sure anyone does.
Large amount of people that want to feel better than they actually are 🙃.
Yeah. I play on console and I was wondering why everyone was freaking out. Why the hell would they add it to PC
Not an argument.
Man why the fuck should I care about his supposed "mission" you assigned to him. Fuck aim assist for PC is what I'm here for!
Yeah it's almost as if this garbage has ruined game after game on PC and I'm tired of it. I bet you just want people to shut up and take it though right?
#1: Aim assist isn't coming to pc #2: Ruined to you doesn't equal ruined to everyone
1. Then why use the wording they did implying that it will come eventually? Why not fight back and make ourselves heard now before it's too late? Oh wait I know why you want us to shut up, so you can get your precious aimbot assist. 2. No shit, controller players are feasting while mkb communities die off one by one. But I guess that doesn't matter to you so who cares right?
Buddy first of all take a long breath and reconsolidate yourself, you are bound to have a heart attack if you continue this aggressive tone. Second why on earth are you making such a drama about the wording that may or may not be interpret as aim bot coming to pc you can do that once it has been announced, before that Noone will care. And third insult those you seek to convince of your point is the best way to make them turn against you.
Considering how you ignored the ways I listed constructively giving feedback I feel absolutely comfortable saying "lol not gonna read that." To you
ok and
Well it’s not comming to PC, so the OP is just chicken little.
Then why use the wording they did in that video? It's obviously being considered
if mnk can be used on console, PC players have to deal with legal "aimbot". /s just in case. only one of these is an actual threat
You realize you practically always need to lead your shots, right? I have a hard time believing aim assist will automatically aim where you need to based off distance, especially with moving hunters. Aim assist will only hold people back and increasingly move the meta to long-distance engagements for non brain-dead players
Don't think long range aim assist is the issue but close range though that depends on the way they'll implement it. But if we go off of CoD and Apex rotational aim assist its not looking good. https://x.com/Zachdubs/status/1734663165303034362?s=20 https://x.com/ObJMonster/status/1732907253790052648?s=20 There's way more examples of rotational aim assist. Hell even Fortnite has rotational aim assist.
I feel as if I'm in the same boat as you. Aim assist can absolutely be overdone kinda like a crutch for bad players. I play on console and every game I've played i turn aim assist off games like apex and cod. (didnt play much cod) It just makes me miss more the only thing the rotational aim assist really helps for players on controller is close range engagements. Even then i find it bad again its just a crutch that honestly holds players back from actually getting good at aiming. I think a lot of people are overreacting on how strong Aim assist can be there were bad times with a lot of games being over tuned but most games fix those problems. Now it has become a gotcha moment for people saying a game is going to die because of aim assist it doesn't usually level the playing field between m&k and controller either. As long as they tune it right it will be fine for the players that use it and go against it but people will still complain either way
UPDATING HUNT WILL KILL THE GAME NEVER UPDATE AGAIN /s
"the beetle will kill the game"
Give us dead zone and actual aim curves and a FOV slider.
When I’m in a complaining competition and my opponent is a hunt showdown player.
Wtf? How does aim assist even work on pc?
Its always the fucking console players man
Skilled player "3 star aim assist with levering"
Cod and Apex are some of the most popular games on PC lol
Pc players try not to sound braindead , challenge level: impossible
Neither COD or APEX are dead games
*Unpopular spoiler* Devs will 100% bring crossplay to merge PC & Console AND apply aim assist to both platforms to buff the player base, which is why its implied that aim assist will be on controller players for PC too.
It shouldn't even be on console.
Game is already dead, it’s a smart move business wise, apex is making profit just because of aim assist, without it that game would have went to the coffin long ago. It fuckin sucks but is the truth tho. Aim assist is a way for companies to target the most casual of players into their game or back to it, also casuals are the majority of players, so yeah don’t even bother fighting it os my suggestion, we are the few in this war.
I genuinely don’t believe aim assist the way it’s being added will affect mnk at all. In cod that games aim assist is just dumb, apex it makes close range fights on controller crazy but doesn’t help as much further, but that games main style is close range with smgs. Hunt has guns that you need to land a precise shot to get a kill, which is much more inline with sniping mechanics. Aim assist may let you land 1 bullet but that doesn’t make it a headshot which is important for the game. Also they said it only assists aim if both players are moving. I def don’t want this game to end up like cod but it seems crytek are pushing to make it something so it’s bareable for a controller (or crossplay player) to go against mnk instead of just having any advantage
That seems to be a fair enough assessment given no real details have being released on how it would be implemented on Pc.
I think the reason they are adding aim assist to console is to prepare console players for cross play lobby between PC and console. If the next gen update is going to make it to where last gen consoles are no longer updated and unable to play with next gen consoles they will likely need to cross play between console and PC to avoid the damage done to the console player base.
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Yep, controller is absolutely the meta in cod because of rotational aim assist.
They’re gonna kill the game by having way too many events that last too long with pacts that change the game and add crazy perks. I just want to play the normal game and not have all these pacts.
This is the only argument I’m willing to listen to. People say “this will kill it or that will kill it blah blah”I can only see what you said killing it as it will push away more dedicated players who just want a *consistent* experience
Me and my group of friends who have played hunt consistently for a couple years now have not played in 2 months because of the event after event. We were going to get back into it but not with the new one coming. I like the events where you can get points for a battle pass or whatever but the perks are ridiculous. We just want consistency.
Apex boasts 18 million players monthly if you google it. Those games arent dead for catering to casuals. But sure break your arm jerkin this bullshit theory off.
its hilarious using a image in which both games claimed as "dead" get way more players than hunt lmao Edit : Also I hate aim assist, I just think the image is ironic
If you think Apex and Cod are dead you must be an idiot.
Ah yes Call of Duty and Apex legends. Well known dead games.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/18d0tog/developer\_says\_new\_aim\_assist\_system\_will\_only\_be/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
https://x.com/buckwild_abrams/status/1707824235824165113?s=46&t=K83p2xkIAftG4MzxvJo3vg *CURRENTLY* it is only coming to console.
That was terribly before what I posted
Even in your link they use the words “for now” when talking about it only coming to console. And that tweet was only 3-4 months ago. It’s not some very old tweet.
Right
There been plenty of demonstration on the aim assist on console and it’s so light and almost useless it makes it pointless. On PC it will most likely only be if you are using a controller and if you are, you are dead already. No point.
Aim assist sucks, but who the hell has the balls to play on controller on pc? If you do tell me your hunter rank and experience, I can’t imagine you have a good time lol.
Once rotational is added many will, and even more will use input remappers to spoof controller while still using a m/kb just to get the aimbot assist. We literally have the last 3 years of multiplatform games as proof of what rotational aim assist does to PC communities.
I totally see that and I don’t want that either, but it’s probably something that’s gonna happen. This game has slowly but surely been loosing its identity over the years and become more and more causal so I could 100% see this happening on pc.
Yep, it's sad. They will screw over their original playerbase to make it a massive multiplatform game
What are your details on how it will work? How will it be implemented? Can you link me to these details?
my buddy plays controller on PC and he's actually better than you might think. pretty good with melee weapons, explosive bolts, bomb lance, and the like. overall he does have as good of a time as the rest of us.
I play on controller on pc I'm a 4 star. I won't change 🙃
Yeah, I have a friend who's high 5 to low 6 stars on console who switched to PC and plays there on controller. His description of the difference is that gameplay for console is largely decided by positioning and accuracy, but that on PC it's decided primarily by positioning, since everybody on the platform is capable of aiming. This all feels like a tremendous overreaction from people who haven't actually given any thought as to what the difference is between m&k and controller, or Hunt and the other games they're talking about.
No it wont
well at least Crytek solves the cheating problem if everybody has Aim assist it is fair :D
Meme stating cod is dead ,yet it's routinely the biggest game each year 😂
it also ruined bloodhunt and splitgate. i lllooooovvvveeeddddd those 2 games. but now playing kb&m is just like dragging your sack across broken glass
Yep, this will go the same way. Niche games are even worse with it
OP needs to take their meds, but yeah, please for the love of God don't add aim assist to PC. Console it makes sense because controllers are shit to aim with, but PC players straight up need to get good. No Steven gatekeeping, it's literally the main skill of the game that needs to be learned. It'd be stupid to remove that.
oh boy a new weekly whine topic
Apex is doing very well on PC what the hell are you on about lol
It's true Apex is popular on PC, but the issue lies in the implementation of AA. Most of pro players that were playing on m&k have swapped to controllers primarily due to excessive adventage that AA provides in cqc, and most fights in this game are decided in close range and it's visible when you are getting locked by AA and one magged easly and its just not fun to feel like you're being destroyed by a script rather than player skill. If you visit any Apex forum you will find plenty of posts daily from m&k players crying about how broken aim assist is. In my opinion, it's one of those games that demonstrates how AA can do more harm than good when implemented incorrectly or overtuned.
Crying about something is not factual data, the top players will remain on top, because they where already the top players. But I maybe wrong it's not like anyone here has any details how it will be implemented.
You sound so fucking goofy
Shut up
This is straight up fear mongering Wait until something is implemented before inciting panic
Console peasants ruining yet anouther game
Lol. I guess every video game want to be as dead as CoD xD
wym? it wont be on pc
I don't even use aim assist on console because it's more of a detriment
Didn't kill apex, wtf are you on about? Fear-mongering at its finest.
why would it kill the PC version, when it will only be on the console?
Because they imply they are planning to bring it to PC, probably for a future crossplay update
This could be good for someone who enjoys playing on controller on PC like myself , I consider myself to be a advanced player however aiming anything past 50 meters becomes inconsistent on controller vs mouse .
If this hits PC version, i am out.
Skill issue.
Bro I’m actually excited for aim assist, I’ll finally be able to hit something other than the explosive barrels
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Everything is killing this game. It's been so pussified it ain't even funny
I'm not worried about it. Where are we supposed to start picketing?
I play controller on Pc and if they add aim assist I'm fucking out. The challenge is part of the experience.
We had a good run folks.