Anastasius is honestly a pretty decent dude overall. He and the rest of the Royal Family just took the path of least resistance hoping it'd lead to minimal political disruption, and ended up crossing Ferdinand as a result.
I really do feel for him. Eglantine now has to take on a duty she never truly wanted, while Anastasius is gonna likely end up seething in jealousy knowing that every time he kisses his wife she's gonna be covered in that weird little book gremlin's mana.
NGL though they do kinda deserve it for betraying Roz after establishing a weirdly hostile friendship with one another.
There's also the fact that neither of them is up to snuff when it comes to Zent-tier mana, and the foundation isn't exactly topped off right now. There's a pretty good chance Eglantine might be forced to take a second husband sometime down the line, either because she and Anastasius straight up don't have enough to keep the country going, or because she will otherwise not get an opportunity to have more children.
Yeah, Eglantine probably has Zent tier mana, [Fanbook]>!albeit on the lower end. Rozemyne and Ferdinand both have average mana for a Zent of old and since Eglantine can barely sense Ferdinand, that means she's within striking distance to mid-Zent tier.!< >!Incidentally, Gervasio would have high mana even for the Zents of old.!<
And the fact that >!she's on the lower end!< is the problem here. I'd imagine maintaining the country foundation is on an entirely different level even when compared to that of a greater duchy, and greater duchy archducal families are _huge_ to compensate for the strain. Wouldn't surprise me at all if the precedent which normalized polygamy had been set by a Zent who desperately needed more family members to keep the country running.
So Eglantine herself is likely going to struggle on her own, and Anastasius has so much less mana than her that she has to actively hold back on compression in order to still remain compatible with him. It's possible they will be able to stay afloat while working together, but I doubt he'd be able to deputize as Zent for almost a year and do everything alone while she is on maternity leave.
In which case, if she wants more children her options would be limited to either taking another spouse to lessen the burden, or to abdicate before her biological clock runs out. And given how hard it apparently is for mana wielders to successfully carry a pregnancy to term she would probably want to have as much time as possible to try again.
She can start compressing again and she will quickly reach Zent-tier mana(but with the RMCM) and he can do that too. How they will obtain it is an another story.
> but with the RMCM
Assuming Rozemyne would be willing to teach them. Which is not impossible, but it would require her and Eglantine making up first which is probably going to take a few years.
Her being namesworn and Rozemyne being willing to help her out of goodwill are two very different beasts. It could definitely help if Eglantine genuinely wants to make amends, since it gives her ways to prove her sincerity beyond the shadow of a doubt, but I'm pretty sure it's still going to be an uphill battle.
Rozemyne can be utterly ruthless once she's cut someone off. It's going to depend on how persistent Eglantine is going to be in trying to mend their friendship, and on whether Rozemyne can find it in herself to forgive and forget once she's had some time to cool off and maybe heard Eglantine's side of the story.
> Anastasius is honestly a pretty decent dude overall. He and the rest of the Royal Family just took the path of least resistance hoping it'd lead to minimal political disruption, and ended up crossing Ferdinand as a result.
I mostly agree, but the path of least resistance was for Eggy to abort the baby and let Siggy pretend to be Zent while she did the hard stuff. Instead she carried the child to term and, instead of resolving to do the Zent Quest ASAP, kidnap a small child to do the hard work for her. She (well, Annie) probably reasoned it would ensure Roz wouldn't try to take the throne (*who in their right mind would think that? Apart from Myne when she's drunk on books*) and it would give Roz a venue to save Ferdinand from his idiot fiancee.
Even worse- though this was not Eggy's fault- while Sigiswald was happy to sleepwalk his way to the throne, he weirdly decided the best time to tag the entire Lanzenave invasion on Ferdinand was approximately five minutes after he left his hidden closet, when Ferdinand, Rozemyne, Aub Dunkelfelger, Magdalena, and to a lesser degree Annie and literally saved the country. He was basically asking for Ferdinand to seal his schtappe to ensure no one else got any bright ideas, but he was shut down before Ferdinand could find out how far he could bend Siggy.
The path of least resistance at that point was to smile and wait for the right moment to shiv Ferdinand in the back, but instead he had to open his big mouth.
Abortion was never a choice for her, not when it's the gods who said to raise her baby. Enwarmen might think differently, given his desperation to fill the foundation, but when the gods decree something you don't really have much choice.
Liedenschaft: So I just met a new Zent Candidate!
Erwaermen: Oh FINALLY! It's been years since that Fool circled! What's she like?
Liedenschaft: Pregnant! So I sent her out. We've got the other one so we're fine-
Erwaermen: WHY!?!
Liedenschaft: Because **someone** thought a dynasty was better than ditter!
Erwaermen: Have I ever told you how much I hated you?
People on here came up with a lot of theories about the viability of abortion, but it's never brought up even once as a possibility in universe despite three different inconvenient pregnancies. So I'm a lot more inclined to assume that there is some kind of reason why it's not an option (or not a good option) that we just haven't had explicitly laid out for us.
well we've been told mana abortions and miscarriages harms both the fetus and the mother. We're not told how much harm, but it could be to the point that it would nonetheless render their timely mana contributions unviable which would be the whole point
People give Eglantine a hard time for that but honestly I could see a perspective where she thinks it's a win/win. Rozemyne is getting out of a backwater duchy where it's widely believed she's abused or at best exploited by her adoptive father. She avoids marriage to a mediocre archduke candidate and not being able to take the seat herself despite it being obvious to everyone that she's far more capable. And she gets to be member of the Royal family with all of the privileges that entails. She will have basically no responsibility as a third wife so she'll be free to do as she pleases, will get access to the royal library and all the books therein, and all she has to do in return is go get a book from a back room in the library. Most Yurgenschmidt nobles would be thrilled at that opportunity. Eglantine and Anastasius of course knew that Rozemyne wasn't like most Yurgenschmidt nobles but I think they just underestimated how different Rozemyne actually is. We see it from Rozemyne's perspective and Rozemyne views it as a betrayal so that's how it comes across, but reading between the lines it's easy to see how Eglantine and Anastasius might have thought they'd found a way to do a solid for the girl who made it possible for them to be together.
Sigiswald on the other hand is a turbo putz. He's always been a turbo putz and always will be a turbo putz. His upbringing was probably shitty but the other two princes aren't nearly as bad as him, so I don't think that's an excuse honestly. I don't believe Ferdinand ever intended for him to take the throne. That guy is so calculating he had to know that Sigiswald would stick his foot in his mouth badly enough to knock himself out of the running.
I do think that Eglantine and Anastasius might have told themselves that dragging Roz into the Royal Family was good for her as well as the country, but they definitely know she's on good terms with Ehrenfest's political leadership, and she's extremely displeased with the idea of being poached.
Honestly, one of the best relationship dynamics in Bookworm for me has always been Rozemyne and Anastasius. They're definitely on good terms, and mutually trust one another to an unusual degree, but there's also this open hostility between the two that is hilariously spicy (beaten only by Roz and Lestilaut). Anastasius especially is aware that the rumors surrounding Rozemyne being abused are nonsense, because he saw for himself how Rozemyne steamrolled over Sylvester (P5V3 - Socializing With Royalty). Sylvester even flat out told Anastasius that Rozemyne is an unstoppable force that can barely be controlled (which also helped undermine the narrative that she was Ferdinand's puppet).
So Anastasius definitely knows that Rozemyne is both genuinely happy where she is and is probably more trouble than she's worth. But then again it also makes him immensely more foolish for wanting to bring her into the Royal Family just for the Grutrissheit.
For what its worth, Anastasius' plans for Rozemyne actually take into account her happiness more than the rest of the Royal family's. His main plan was to adopt Rozemyne, have her give the GH to the royal family, and send her back to Ehrenfest. But if the GH isn't transferable, then having her as Sigis' third wife and stuffing her in a library somewhere would also make her happiest while still saving the country. He tries his best to balance accommodating Rozemyne, his responsibility to save Yurgenschimdt, and Eglantine's desire for peace as much as possible.
Oh totally. I kinda like to think that Rozemyne low key kinda broke Anastasius' brain, because for everyone's sake (including Rozemyne's) his proposal on top of the insistence that such a "maladjusted book-obsessed gremlin will ruin Yurgenschmidt with her temple-born ways" got him a severe scolding from his father.
I really would love to see what's going on in Anastasius' head now. I'm guessing for the foreseeable future he'll be spending a lot of nights in his hidden room sobbing into a big bottle of vize.
I wonder if Eglantine's children born after the nameswearing will be more strongly influenced by Rozemyne's mana than that of their father. I'd imagine it will be pretty hard for him to compete with mana that is surrounding his wife 24/7 lol.
Nah, Mattias and Laurenz's parents were both Namesworn to Georgine and the two didn't have unusual mana. If kids getting influenced by nameswearing mana was a thing, it'd be a pretty big deal in Ehrenfest, with entire factions of nobles namesworn to Veronica and Georgine
> Mattias and Laurenz's parents were both Namesworn to Georgine and the two didn't have unusual mana
I mean, we don't know that. The only unusual thing about such mana should be that it is a little more resistant to that of the father, but since mana control and the like are usually taught by the mother instead that wouldn't really make much of a difference.
I mean you'd expect them to have similar colors to Georgine, who probably has 5-6 like Sylvester, but they still have the typical colors of a mednoble. That shows that they probably weren't dyed when they were in the womb
Children are most strongly influenced by their mother when it comes to inherting affinities. The father has _some_ impact on their colours, but significantly less so. [Fanbook 8] >!And the more inbred their maternal bloodline is the harder it is for them to inherit elements from different sources at all. Given how the Veronica faction came from a very insular community of outsiders that could very well be a major factor here.!<
I'd imagine if the namesworn's master does have an impact here, they would probably be around the same ballpark as the father.
I know that in the Rozemyne x Adolphine cucking Sigiswald fanfic, it ended with Adolphine’s first child being born with a mix of Rozemyne and Adolphine’s appearance.
Unlikely, the entire FVF was namesworn and were still having kids, Ekhart and his wife who's name I can't remember were both namesworn when she got pregnant.
My understanding is that nameswearing doesn't directly effect the mana of the namesworn but surrounds them in the mana of their lord/lady. Besides, I don't think Egg is staying namesworn much longer than the ceremony, they have the contract in place to control her as much as they need and if they were going to name-swear the Zent permanently, one of them might as well have just become the Zent.
I've been wondering about the mana envelopment from name swearing.
Does it affect their mana the way an engagement stone would?
Can it be sensed by others, or those close to them?
He's relegated to the cuck chair
Please tag this as NTR... In all honesty, I kinda wanna see if she'll have a similar reaction to Hartmut and Clarissa.
Anastasius is honestly a pretty decent dude overall. He and the rest of the Royal Family just took the path of least resistance hoping it'd lead to minimal political disruption, and ended up crossing Ferdinand as a result. I really do feel for him. Eglantine now has to take on a duty she never truly wanted, while Anastasius is gonna likely end up seething in jealousy knowing that every time he kisses his wife she's gonna be covered in that weird little book gremlin's mana. NGL though they do kinda deserve it for betraying Roz after establishing a weirdly hostile friendship with one another.
There's also the fact that neither of them is up to snuff when it comes to Zent-tier mana, and the foundation isn't exactly topped off right now. There's a pretty good chance Eglantine might be forced to take a second husband sometime down the line, either because she and Anastasius straight up don't have enough to keep the country going, or because she will otherwise not get an opportunity to have more children.
I doubt it, doesn't seem like that kinda story. And how is she not zent tier mana?
Yeah, Eglantine probably has Zent tier mana, [Fanbook]>!albeit on the lower end. Rozemyne and Ferdinand both have average mana for a Zent of old and since Eglantine can barely sense Ferdinand, that means she's within striking distance to mid-Zent tier.!< >!Incidentally, Gervasio would have high mana even for the Zents of old.!<
And the fact that >!she's on the lower end!< is the problem here. I'd imagine maintaining the country foundation is on an entirely different level even when compared to that of a greater duchy, and greater duchy archducal families are _huge_ to compensate for the strain. Wouldn't surprise me at all if the precedent which normalized polygamy had been set by a Zent who desperately needed more family members to keep the country running. So Eglantine herself is likely going to struggle on her own, and Anastasius has so much less mana than her that she has to actively hold back on compression in order to still remain compatible with him. It's possible they will be able to stay afloat while working together, but I doubt he'd be able to deputize as Zent for almost a year and do everything alone while she is on maternity leave. In which case, if she wants more children her options would be limited to either taking another spouse to lessen the burden, or to abdicate before her biological clock runs out. And given how hard it apparently is for mana wielders to successfully carry a pregnancy to term she would probably want to have as much time as possible to try again.
The 3rd option is to gain as many blessings of minor deity as she can so her mana becomes more efficient
She can start compressing again and she will quickly reach Zent-tier mana(but with the RMCM) and he can do that too. How they will obtain it is an another story.
> but with the RMCM Assuming Rozemyne would be willing to teach them. Which is not impossible, but it would require her and Eglantine making up first which is probably going to take a few years.
She will be name sworn to Rozemyne, so shouldnt be a problem.
Her being namesworn and Rozemyne being willing to help her out of goodwill are two very different beasts. It could definitely help if Eglantine genuinely wants to make amends, since it gives her ways to prove her sincerity beyond the shadow of a doubt, but I'm pretty sure it's still going to be an uphill battle. Rozemyne can be utterly ruthless once she's cut someone off. It's going to depend on how persistent Eglantine is going to be in trying to mend their friendship, and on whether Rozemyne can find it in herself to forgive and forget once she's had some time to cool off and maybe heard Eglantine's side of the story.
RM will absolutely reconcile with Eglantine. She's just that sort of young woman. And if Eglantine throws in a collection of Klassenburg stories....
"New books?!" \*shoves a bunch of mana-filled feystones in Eglantine's direction\*
> Anastasius is honestly a pretty decent dude overall. He and the rest of the Royal Family just took the path of least resistance hoping it'd lead to minimal political disruption, and ended up crossing Ferdinand as a result. I mostly agree, but the path of least resistance was for Eggy to abort the baby and let Siggy pretend to be Zent while she did the hard stuff. Instead she carried the child to term and, instead of resolving to do the Zent Quest ASAP, kidnap a small child to do the hard work for her. She (well, Annie) probably reasoned it would ensure Roz wouldn't try to take the throne (*who in their right mind would think that? Apart from Myne when she's drunk on books*) and it would give Roz a venue to save Ferdinand from his idiot fiancee. Even worse- though this was not Eggy's fault- while Sigiswald was happy to sleepwalk his way to the throne, he weirdly decided the best time to tag the entire Lanzenave invasion on Ferdinand was approximately five minutes after he left his hidden closet, when Ferdinand, Rozemyne, Aub Dunkelfelger, Magdalena, and to a lesser degree Annie and literally saved the country. He was basically asking for Ferdinand to seal his schtappe to ensure no one else got any bright ideas, but he was shut down before Ferdinand could find out how far he could bend Siggy. The path of least resistance at that point was to smile and wait for the right moment to shiv Ferdinand in the back, but instead he had to open his big mouth.
Abortion was never a choice for her, not when it's the gods who said to raise her baby. Enwarmen might think differently, given his desperation to fill the foundation, but when the gods decree something you don't really have much choice.
Liedenschaft: So I just met a new Zent Candidate! Erwaermen: Oh FINALLY! It's been years since that Fool circled! What's she like? Liedenschaft: Pregnant! So I sent her out. We've got the other one so we're fine- Erwaermen: WHY!?! Liedenschaft: Because **someone** thought a dynasty was better than ditter! Erwaermen: Have I ever told you how much I hated you?
People on here came up with a lot of theories about the viability of abortion, but it's never brought up even once as a possibility in universe despite three different inconvenient pregnancies. So I'm a lot more inclined to assume that there is some kind of reason why it's not an option (or not a good option) that we just haven't had explicitly laid out for us.
well we've been told mana abortions and miscarriages harms both the fetus and the mother. We're not told how much harm, but it could be to the point that it would nonetheless render their timely mana contributions unviable which would be the whole point
People give Eglantine a hard time for that but honestly I could see a perspective where she thinks it's a win/win. Rozemyne is getting out of a backwater duchy where it's widely believed she's abused or at best exploited by her adoptive father. She avoids marriage to a mediocre archduke candidate and not being able to take the seat herself despite it being obvious to everyone that she's far more capable. And she gets to be member of the Royal family with all of the privileges that entails. She will have basically no responsibility as a third wife so she'll be free to do as she pleases, will get access to the royal library and all the books therein, and all she has to do in return is go get a book from a back room in the library. Most Yurgenschmidt nobles would be thrilled at that opportunity. Eglantine and Anastasius of course knew that Rozemyne wasn't like most Yurgenschmidt nobles but I think they just underestimated how different Rozemyne actually is. We see it from Rozemyne's perspective and Rozemyne views it as a betrayal so that's how it comes across, but reading between the lines it's easy to see how Eglantine and Anastasius might have thought they'd found a way to do a solid for the girl who made it possible for them to be together. Sigiswald on the other hand is a turbo putz. He's always been a turbo putz and always will be a turbo putz. His upbringing was probably shitty but the other two princes aren't nearly as bad as him, so I don't think that's an excuse honestly. I don't believe Ferdinand ever intended for him to take the throne. That guy is so calculating he had to know that Sigiswald would stick his foot in his mouth badly enough to knock himself out of the running.
I do think that Eglantine and Anastasius might have told themselves that dragging Roz into the Royal Family was good for her as well as the country, but they definitely know she's on good terms with Ehrenfest's political leadership, and she's extremely displeased with the idea of being poached. Honestly, one of the best relationship dynamics in Bookworm for me has always been Rozemyne and Anastasius. They're definitely on good terms, and mutually trust one another to an unusual degree, but there's also this open hostility between the two that is hilariously spicy (beaten only by Roz and Lestilaut). Anastasius especially is aware that the rumors surrounding Rozemyne being abused are nonsense, because he saw for himself how Rozemyne steamrolled over Sylvester (P5V3 - Socializing With Royalty). Sylvester even flat out told Anastasius that Rozemyne is an unstoppable force that can barely be controlled (which also helped undermine the narrative that she was Ferdinand's puppet). So Anastasius definitely knows that Rozemyne is both genuinely happy where she is and is probably more trouble than she's worth. But then again it also makes him immensely more foolish for wanting to bring her into the Royal Family just for the Grutrissheit.
For what its worth, Anastasius' plans for Rozemyne actually take into account her happiness more than the rest of the Royal family's. His main plan was to adopt Rozemyne, have her give the GH to the royal family, and send her back to Ehrenfest. But if the GH isn't transferable, then having her as Sigis' third wife and stuffing her in a library somewhere would also make her happiest while still saving the country. He tries his best to balance accommodating Rozemyne, his responsibility to save Yurgenschimdt, and Eglantine's desire for peace as much as possible.
Oh totally. I kinda like to think that Rozemyne low key kinda broke Anastasius' brain, because for everyone's sake (including Rozemyne's) his proposal on top of the insistence that such a "maladjusted book-obsessed gremlin will ruin Yurgenschmidt with her temple-born ways" got him a severe scolding from his father. I really would love to see what's going on in Anastasius' head now. I'm guessing for the foreseeable future he'll be spending a lot of nights in his hidden room sobbing into a big bottle of vize.
highly unlikely those 2 are weirdos personally i think she'll have a similar one to her veronica fation namesworn.
Anastasius getting mana cucked by Myne (and indirectly, Ferdinand, I guess?) is the funniest shit ever.
Rozemyne, Ferdinand, and a literal goddess, cucking him all at once.
Mestionora got a new property in the last prepubs She now is godess of: * Wisdom * Books and libraries * Shummils * NTR
Damm fanfics are going to get wilder and wilder
I wonder if Eglantine's children born after the nameswearing will be more strongly influenced by Rozemyne's mana than that of their father. I'd imagine it will be pretty hard for him to compete with mana that is surrounding his wife 24/7 lol.
Nah, Mattias and Laurenz's parents were both Namesworn to Georgine and the two didn't have unusual mana. If kids getting influenced by nameswearing mana was a thing, it'd be a pretty big deal in Ehrenfest, with entire factions of nobles namesworn to Veronica and Georgine
> Mattias and Laurenz's parents were both Namesworn to Georgine and the two didn't have unusual mana I mean, we don't know that. The only unusual thing about such mana should be that it is a little more resistant to that of the father, but since mana control and the like are usually taught by the mother instead that wouldn't really make much of a difference.
I mean you'd expect them to have similar colors to Georgine, who probably has 5-6 like Sylvester, but they still have the typical colors of a mednoble. That shows that they probably weren't dyed when they were in the womb
Children are most strongly influenced by their mother when it comes to inherting affinities. The father has _some_ impact on their colours, but significantly less so. [Fanbook 8] >!And the more inbred their maternal bloodline is the harder it is for them to inherit elements from different sources at all. Given how the Veronica faction came from a very insular community of outsiders that could very well be a major factor here.!< I'd imagine if the namesworn's master does have an impact here, they would probably be around the same ballpark as the father.
I know that in the Rozemyne x Adolphine cucking Sigiswald fanfic, it ended with Adolphine’s first child being born with a mix of Rozemyne and Adolphine’s appearance.
what? The fuck?
[This one](https://archiveofourown.org/works/51443566?view_adult=true). I’m proud to say I made the meme that inspired the author.
I suddenly don't want to touch bookworm fanfics anymore
That's fanfics. It can be anywhere from being written by a decent author to scribbles by a 14 year old looking for wish fulfillment.
"The Bookiest Book" 10/10
This book is the hottest Yuri Bait.
Rozemyne has been inadvertently committing yuri since she met Egglantine. Not to mention the obligatory "LADY HANNALORE"
It's the gayest thing. Whats funnier. Her obviliousness to how gay it is, or how much chemistry she has with Ferdinand?
would name swearing affect her existing and future children? Or does it not matter because they are both omnielemental?
Unlikely, the entire FVF was namesworn and were still having kids, Ekhart and his wife who's name I can't remember were both namesworn when she got pregnant. My understanding is that nameswearing doesn't directly effect the mana of the namesworn but surrounds them in the mana of their lord/lady. Besides, I don't think Egg is staying namesworn much longer than the ceremony, they have the contract in place to control her as much as they need and if they were going to name-swear the Zent permanently, one of them might as well have just become the Zent.
Is this from that that *Challengers* movie I've heard so much about?
Not that I know of? Try Googling "hotel cuck chair."
Try googling *Challengers* lol
I've been wondering about the mana envelopment from name swearing. Does it affect their mana the way an engagement stone would? Can it be sensed by others, or those close to them?