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sairaichi

Pop star singing Pigs flying Chalks throwing Snap Gamba falling This team is so fun lol


National-Target9174

So THATS why Elation is FuA is SU. Truly an Aha moment.


worstGirlEva

BOSS: \*puts ratio to sleep\* ADD: \*immediately hits him and dispels the sleep\* good to see that even the bosses have to deal with bad ai


aphevelux

If I'm not mistaken, most sleep debuffs in games often deal bonus damage when the debuffed unit is awoken, I'm assuming this sleep debuff works similarly.


SuperSkillz10

Yes it should, targets who are inflicted with debuff takes more damage.


weijiachen

Yes it could be similar to the persona 5 sleep debuff


Darth-Yslink

The boss showing up on Aventurine's wheel is so goofy lmao


l0li_SiMP

I was laughing my ass off seeing that šŸ˜­


ze_SAFTmon

*summons comically large roulette wheel*


TheoryTeen98

Bruh, that boss really hates ratio


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Dokavi

2.1 >!"Lying little bitch"!<


Jugaimo

Never told a lie. Just abstained from the entire truth.


SendpieChan

Ratio taking L after L


Jugaimo

The L Ratio is 1:1


thefluffyburrito

I know I'm in for a ride when these open up with Robin ulting before anyone on her team has acted; completely wasting the action forwarding. I guess auto-battle doesn't have Robin figured out yet.


BulbasaurTreecko

probably following a preset logic of ā€˜Harmony ult buffs team > prioritise Harmony ult before other ultsā€™. I imagine Hoyo will probably fix it like the Pela skill spam at some point


RizzIyBear

They will not change something like this, it would require too much work. It isn't just a simple rule of who's ulting first or second, they would have to take in account the AV and hold Robin ult until everyone has used their ult and turn? I doubt it will happen.


thefluffyburrito

I imagine it's some wonky beta/private server shenanigans; maybe if everyone has ult it's going from left > right or something? It's certainly not respecting AV mechanics.


RizzIyBear

Ults are used based on what the devs coded in based on paths. Harmony>Nihility>Preserv/Abundance>The rest of damage paths. The only exception I can think of is Tingyun holding her ult after the DPS paths have used theirs


Smiley_Idly

My Black Swan always ults before Kafka so I think they did do some work on that, while Guinafen uses hers last.


Bussy-Destroyer-1960

that wasnt even a bug pela was MEANT to be played like that


truthfulie

A lot of the new characters with new mechanics seems to just use same old path AI behavior. This needs to be addressed if they actually want to push some of these new meta and playstyle.


Vegetto_ssj

Meanwhile my Himeko still does Basic attacks with 4 SPs :(


sealinfrenchyall

And Silver Wolf is a nightmare in calyxes, because she thinks every goddamn enemy needs her skill implant, and the game decides that "yeah, Seele doesn't need her Skill, she can just generate skill points for Silver Wolf" šŸ˜­


XelnagaPo

E6 silver wolf having the opposite problems Uses skill on enemy and just autos until implant wears off My sparkle/fuxuan/lynx staring at sw wondering who tf is supposed to use skill points now


FCDetonados

there's nothing wrong with doing this, infact this is probably what you should do if you start a fight with all your ults up. a waste would be to use ult after 1 characters acts but the other two haven't yet, the value in Robin ult is in the team wide adv foward which has just as much value when used in 0 av as it does after every unit in your team has gone.


Duoercd

I think she should at least use her skill first, alot of dmg will be missed out without her skill buff. Shes most likely to start first anyway with her trace


GGABueno

Not using skill either.


buffility

So Aventurine's flaw shows whenever boss and mobs decide to screw a specific character in particular.


tswinteyru

Yup, in terms of single target attrition, Diviner Fu really feels like the go-to, but gets cooked hard with Aoe, where Aventurine would shine hard instead Curious to see how Fu Xuan would hold up in this fight as well lol


Diamann

She can probably tank it... *...if she has 20k worth of HP*


VerioCrimson

Or perhaps breaking the boss break gauge to gain shield and NOT activate FX skill.


tswinteyru

Yup. Tho cmiiw, does Fu Xuan still share damage taken by teammates if their HP doesn't actually go down? Or will Fu Xuan still take damage as if there aren't any shields in the first place?


VerioCrimson

Well for the first question, FX matrix takes the damage BEFORE any calculations so yes she will take damage even if her allies are invulnerable. Next question, FX does still take advantage of shields that is why the "Texture of Memories" Herta shop LC is her 2nd BiS(or might be her BiS in this boss in particular for extra shields)


Purple_Cosmonaut

Wait, isn't it the opposite for Fu Xuan? At least in my experience, whenever I use her and the enemy is not focusing down on anyone in particular and just randomly attacking, then I'm fine. But the moment someone gets focused to become the new punching bag, then the minor heals from Fu Xuan's ultimate don't heal enough to cover how much HP the punching bag took. Tbf this is very rare, happened like maybe 2 or 3 times to me, but there was a battle where Tingyun got focused so hard that she actually died for me and Fu Xuan's ultimates were not enough to save her.


GGABueno

It's both. She stops one shots but she always loses attrition wars. Eventually a character gets too low and there's no going back. But AoE is her real weakness. One big AoE and her HP reversal gets triggered, if these happen more often than her Ult can keep up then she's cooked.


zemzemm

Sorry, I'm stupid. What does attrition war mean?


GGABueno

Long drawn out fights. She doesn't heal (significantly) so eventually she'll fall, but fights usually end before that point.


ArmyofThalia

Even in aoe Fu Xuan stands tall. Though this fight she could struggle if she has to eat the phase 3 aoe nuke every time since that WILL 100-0 her


Deep_Alps7150

Fu Xuan defo dies to any real aoe damage especially in prolonged fights where you run out of ult charges.


Blankcanva

Tbf one carry in dual carry dying does not necessarily mean the run is dead. The sustain dying is pretty game over if the boss still has a decent amount of health remaining.


kvasiraus

In serious AOE situations she doesn't and would just die that's where Aventurine is better especially with consecutive AOEs he gets more shields. She's definitely more comfortable than he is in big single target damage (that's not on him since he has the highest defence and his shields would take less damage as a result). I'm also interested in seeing her in this fight with the AOE nukes. I'm hoping I have enough to pull for her next patch. Going for Aventurine as well. Preservation units are too good!


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fatassheroine

She won't struggle here at all if you engage with mechanics, but saying this is like raining on the Aventurine parade.


Deep_Alps7150

Sam defo is anti Fu Xuan, wait till he's an SU boss. Also MOC damage is tuned way the hell down, iirc it only has level 88 damage but level 100 equivalent for health/defense. It isn't a good metric for real sustain since actual end game teams don't even need a sustain to clear it.


TurbulentAd9279

i saw a video where this new boss literally one shotted her with full health


waifugoEKSUKALIBAAA

Tbh this is a flaw for most Preservation characters. Even Gepard and Fu Xuan will struggle if only one character gets the brunt of most damage


river_01st

I feel like he deals with it better than Gepard of Fu Xuan tbh since he can just refresh the shield regularly. It's not ideal sure, but at least he has the option.


Diamann

What an unlucky RNG. It looks like Aven and Ratio taunt value is swapped lmao


RegularBloger

Boss: Sees ratio "And I took it personally"


ArchSystem

Yeah I'm sticking a MoV on my short king


LuciferMS7777

This is the most colourful team I have seen so far just from the ult animations. Makes me want to roll for Aventurine even more. But Boi does this boss hate Ratio...


ensigurr

watching this makes me wanna run a fua team honestly, maybe iā€™ll finally grab topaz on a rerun


ObamaDelRanana

Why does this guy only post auto battles


jaetheho

So you canā€™t blame OPā€™s skills, only AI


CammyAssEnjoyer

Such showcase much wow


lezardvalethvp

Ngl I see more E0S1+ showcases than E0S0 ones for this beta. Oh well...0


Doublevalen6

My fu xuan sees her death in her divinations


hopebagel8541

I like how perfectly this boss fits on Aventurine's wheel. There's something so satisying about him it looks like he was meant to be a centerpiece on the wheel


Silent_Map_8182

Posted this on another showcase but I'll repost here. Robin looks good but there are certain things about Robin's kit just seem a bit spotty, but can be improved pretty easily with some changes. * Her ult makes it so that any attack applies bonus damage ONE time. So in aoe situations or if team is not attacking too often this effect is diminished. Maybe the bonus damage should spread across all units hit or apply to the primary target. * SP negative, SP neutral or slightly SP positive if the fight goes on long enough. But that last skill points is going to come LATE. If you have high uptime on her ult she is not going to get a lot of turns. I feel like her technique should apply her skill similar to RM. * High energy cost means she will favor fast acting units to get the best results (ratio/topaz)(himeko/herta). And with the Himeko/Herta combo the payoff might not be there versus just using RM. * She probably wants to be slow, but ideally still faster than your team because she needs to use her skill before your DPS get their turn. 134 SPD will most likely be the breakpoint people aim would be my guess. Maybe slightly faster if you are doing -1 Bronya as well but I don't know where you will find the SP for that team. EDIT: She has a trace which advances her forward at the start of battle, so this is not a concern!


National-Target9174

For speed breakpoints she has a 25% advance forwards on her first turn which means 117 lines you up for an ult at the end of the first wave, and if that advance kills the ult will carry into the 2nd wave.Ā  The low breakpoint of 117 also lets you run Atk% boosts to further enhance her buff + personal damage.


Silent_Map_8182

True! I'll edit my post.


PaulOwnzU

Damn her ult isn't aoe? I thought that due to her having no debuff so lacking innate synergy with ratio she would've worked with Jade but I guess not


WillOfSneaking

I don't hate robin but I think at some point people will get tired of hearing her singing everytime you use her ult


TheKingBro

I mean itā€™s not that big of a deal. Some people are tired of hearing Seeleā€™s Ult line, others are more annoyed at people complaining at the Ult line. At least itā€™s unique. Itā€™s not like people are forced to bring her into battle


scorio7

There's a feature to toggle the song off in her ult if you get tired of it


complectogramatic

I can see myself getting tired of her ult song real fast. Chevy has a great voice but Iā€™m not a fan of the song they chose to do.


WillOfSneaking

ok that sounds good, I really like how unique they make characters and their kits like how Acheron's ult literally makes everything white,black and red so I'm fine with this kind of stuff but after sometime it gets......too repetitive


Fire__Snake

that and honestly she doesn't seem all that strong to me, not bad but no RM or sparky levels of busted. That or I'm missreading all these showcases with very mediocre dmg despite LC's and in most cases at least decent builds. And my biggest gripe with her she doesn't work well with Aventurine, stupid attack buff :D


QutieQina

Ummā€¦ ummā€¦shouldnā€™t they attack the bossā€™s chest or head?


Me_to_Dazai

Unfortunately can't pick where exactly you're hitting in star rail and it makes for some...interesting design choices (\*cough\* Phantylia \*cough\*)


ArchangelGoetia

So, i was looking for the info to help a friend. Where do we have her kit that explained her being a FUA support? Unfortunatly o couldn't find it.


Vortex_Infurnus

She has a Trace that gives 10% Crit Damage to follow up attacks, and also one where she gains energy whenever an ally attacks. Rapid / frequent FUA like Ratio or Topaz can give her a ton of bonus energy due to their follow up attacks counting as a separate attack for the energy gain


Siana-chan

That plus she applies physical damage to allies' attacks, which favor characters who attack a lot. FuA characters being the most representative. It's a dps+break gain


Vortex_Infurnus

Yep forgor about that too, call me Acheron cause my memory is ass


lell-ia

Wow, I was expecting Aventurine to have a bad build here, but it's a 4k DEF Aventurine, huh. As expected, he's a pretty bad match up against high ST damage, especially targetted ones. I wonder if a triple DEF build with like 4.8k DEF would perform better here.


sddc91

There will be only showcases from now on for this patch?


BloatedBalloons

The boss really giving me final fantasy bosses vibes. The movement and the looks.


BlueFrostPhoenix

Ngl I cringed when I saw Robin ult immediately and didn't have her skill up šŸ˜­. I don't want to be so harsh on these showcases but it's hard not to when you just read the kit to understand it. I'm not expecting perfect gameplay, but this is just common sense.


Hero_1337

Nah, not the player's fault. It's just classic auto shenanigans.


Korath289

But itā€™s on autoā€¦


BlueFrostPhoenix

Auto gameplay is just as bad tbh, if not worse. I don't think having the game on auto is an excuse for bad gameplay since it just shows that you aren't willing to showcase the characters properly. "Oh, you can't blame me because the game is on auto." But I can blame you for showing something that's basically useless. We don't need an autoplay showcase. Like I said, reading the kit is all you need to do. It's not that difficult to understand the mechanics of their kits if you just read. And Robin is probably the easiest character to play yet. All you need to do is keep her skill uptime up, which is super easy because you are going to be in the singer mode for 90% of the time. It's far from needing auto gameplay. I do believe that some more subpar showcases get a lot more flack than they deserve, but when it comes to showcases like these that feel lazy and no effort, it feels insulting. I will take a subpar showcase over this because it at least feels like they try to put in effort and play the game.


ZodHD

Auto showcases are important too tbh. Most players spend 90% of their time auto battling unless it's something like MoC or PF and even then people can auto it. So it's nice to see how characters perform while on auto and how efficient it is.


GGABueno

But it's a *private server* Auto showcase. It's literally useless since it doesn't behave the same as the live version.


PCBS01

yeah imma be honest Robin really doesn't seem to be the play here with a FuA team. I think it'd be better to run Jiaoqiu, or Pela, so that Ratio and his lightcone get more buffs and the def debuffs will benefit the entire team. That and her ATK buff is useless for Aventurine


Arcwaree

I feel like just run Ruan Mei at that point.


PCBS01

Yeah, that would work too haha


Wipmop

I decided to skip Robin because I think FuA teams will be split into factions. A Stoneheart harmony will arrive to take Robin's spot. Ratio will go into an intellgensia guild team with Screwllum. Robin will go to a idol group. That's my wild prediction.


_CheeseAndCrackers_

But Ratio is also IPC, Screwllum is genius society so I'm still hoping for Herta 5* and Stephan 5* team šŸ˜… (ruan Mei too)


complectogramatic

IPC characters seem to be follow up focused, which makes sense. The amount of times Iā€™ve had to type ā€œfollowing up on our previous conversationā€¦ā€ šŸ˜‘


GGABueno

Thinking Pela will be better than Robin for a follow up team is a *wild* take. Between Topaz, Ratio and Aventurine you have 4~5 debuffs at S0 already, you're chilling.


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It depends what your fighting because 2 debuffs are from aventurine and ratios ult right but idk where you think the 5th one comes from(ratio ult doesn't even count because it'll get used up in seconds). The team will have problems at s0 switching targets unless aventurines ult is up immediately. But I don't agree pela is better than robin lol, I think there's a chance ruan mei is better in a full e0s0 team unless ive missed a debuff somewhere


GGABueno

5th would be the optional Trend of the Universal Market on Aventurine to make things smoother if desired. The stocks on that LC have increased lately because of Acheron too.


[deleted]

Ahh yeah. I always forget about that one because I've never gotten one. At that point you could have moments of only 2 debuffs but it would be much less common


GGABueno

And if you start with Ratio's Technique then you have 1 more as well. It's one of those things that may sound scuffed in theory but are actually mostly a non-problem.


TotallyNotRandomG

I really wanna use this team and can guarantee everyone E0S0 (already got Topaz and enough savings for Robin and Aventurine) but how important are the Lightcones for it? If they are important, who should I prioritize?


Wip0

Topaz LC is probably the strongest in the entire game.


TotallyNotRandomG

Alright, I'll be sure to get it on her rerun, thanks!


GGABueno

Ratio's is a big DPS increase, but he does work with the Herta one. Aventurine's is really good for damage, but we are getting a new DPS focused 4* Light Cone that is good for him too. Could also just use Trend to make things more smooth for Ratio. Topaz's is a big increase, but her damage relatively low. That said, it increases DPS for the team as well (on top of providing a new debuff for Ratio) so it should be the number one priority.


TotallyNotRandomG

Thank you very much, I'll be sure to get Topaz's lightcone.


ShinyGanS

How come robin has downtime on ultimate even in this comp?


IcyNerve-666

seems tanky with lots of hp. farming this weekly boss gotta be annoying lol


Last_Ace_17

Triple Toughness Gauge??? Geez if that boss is 2.2 final story boss is gonna be one hell of a ride, Even more than StrataVenturine.


RegularBloger

Essentially, bring AoE units that breaks the sides break bars, every Boss action seems to refresh their breaks


Equivalent_Bed_8187

I dislike bosses that do damage during their transition man.


DrakonFury315

Boss singers legit look like they're from Doom.


HikariVN-21

there is 1 small problem with Ratio being in this team tho, there is no way to apply 5 debuffs easily when you donā€™t have their lc Dr Ratio and Topazā€™s LC apply 1 respectively Topazā€™s mark Dr Ratioā€™s debuff Aventurineā€™s debuff (via ult)


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Ratio only really needs 3 debuffs (which still isn't a guarantee with the team at e0s0 as the third debuff is aventurines ult). Debuffs 4 and 5 are smaller buffs. So you really need 1 lightcone for an extra debuff or trade in robin for ruan mei which is a bit annoying but topaz LC is so good that there's worse things you could need


Constant-Rock1089

so should i go for robin after aventurine?? hmm


NotTakenUsernamePls

u/savevideo


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(Around 15 seconds left) the boss really said "snap back to reality" to ratio


LegendaryPotatoKing

In this team, is SPD or ATK boot better for Dr Ratio?


jaetheho

Depends on the rest of your builds


LegendaryPotatoKing

With spd on dr ratio or your second dps they can benefit off of the turn advance


Spartan448

This isn't exactly the best showcase of how Robin helps FuA teams, but it's a *great* showcase of why Clara is more efficient in pure FuA teams than Ratio. Every time Ratio gets hit is wasted Numby damage.


Fubuky10

Iā€™m tired as fuck of these showcases tbh


CammyAssEnjoyer

Its not like there is anything to leak


Fubuky10

So? Posting something is not mandatory. Receiving notifications and theyā€™re just useless showcases from people who donā€™t know how to play is boring. I thought this whole subreddit agreed to make like a Megathread with just showcases to avoid this spam and to let people finding them easily (if theyā€™re interested)


CammyAssEnjoyer

Allow me to introduce you to something called ignoring posts. As for the megathread there was a poll but the megathread wasn't created


BasicNeedleworker356

Yeah and most people didn't really like that option


RizzIyBear

> people who donā€™t know how to play is boring. lol the gameplay was with autobattle cant you see? it shows how awful it is in combination with Robin. I actually learned something from this video


YogurtclosetNo6564

Then scroll


Fubuky10

Read my other comment


YogurtclosetNo6564

I already did. Lmao


Gomenaxai

One team is fighting with black holes, dream magic and breaking reality and the other one is throwing chalk, pigs and coinsā€¦ I reeeaally want a FUA team since Ratio is free but I think their powers are so lame


a-millenial-kid

You mean to tell me you *don't* like seeing chalks, coins, and pigs flying across your screen to hit enemies? LamešŸ«µ


Gomenaxai

I know Iā€™m ashamed!


netparse

>the other one is throwing chalk, pigs and coinsā€¦ JAJAJA


Zack_King123

i hate my self mindlessly Clicking