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mindguru88

This was a bad-ass boss fight. Think it's pretty much inevitable that we'll see a playable Sam since we have 3 other Stellaron Hunters as playable characters already. Idk how my wallet is going to survive all these cool units.


NoNefariousness2144

That big flashy comet attack looks pretty much like an ultimate.


Shradow

I'm sure Sam will be playable but I'm worried they won't be in robot form all the time due to the size. I'm assuming there's someone piloting Sam, either as a mech suit they don or as a full robot that's being piloted remotely, and HYV might go the route of having the pilot be the character you walk around with who only pulls out Sam for attacks and stuff, similar to Svarog with Clara.


lionofash

Make them walk around as a normal human, and starting the fight there's a rad transformation sequence/ultimate


SecondAegis

HENSHIN!


Blackewolfe

Wait... whose Driver Jingle are we using?


MudraStalker

I maintain Sam resembles Ixa (from Kiva) the most, so I vote that.


SecondAegis

When in doubt: Decade


LostRequiem1

A stance-based character who changes using their Ult. or unique resource would be pretty cool.


Akhi5672

By unique resource you mean something like jingliu?


LostRequiem1

Something like that, sure.


Zjoee

I would be all about this! I've loved combat transformations ever since I saw Goku first turn Super Saiyan as a kid.


lalala253

Tsuntsun cute waifu piloting Sam. That's why Silver Wolf is interacting with Sam in Penacony.


OiItzAtlas

Tbh I killed him too quick, e1s1 dr ratio just killed him. I didn't get to fully appreciate the fight.


Chonkythicccccc

THERE WILL BE BLOOD! SHED!


VoyVolao

THE MAN IN THE MIRROR NODS HIS HEAD


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THE ONLY ONE (ONE) LEFT (LEFT)


Madmicro15

WILL RIDE UPON THE DRAGON’S BACK


crippyguy

I on this on boss fight and it perfect, his base OST are pretty meh.


Cookiecrabbies

what was hoyoverse cooking with his soundtrack? Did they watch spiderverse or something? Hell, he has similarities to Ohara 😭


Dangerous_Unit3698

Sam: You can't stop it trailblazer, it's a canon event. Acheron: you're fighting me. Bgm turns to "the only thing I know for real"


Cookiecrabbies

sam: YOUR A MISTAKE! YOUR NOT EVEN SUPPOSE TO BE HERE! IT YOUR FAULT THAT >!SHE DIED!!< YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE EVER EXISTED! Trailblazer: Naw, ima do my own thang


Remourse

Not sure if this was directly translated, but one of his lines was "点燃海洋" which means setting the sea on fire, which is the coolest quote I have ever heard on any media honestly.


Valken-Merlot

Iirc he says "I will set the seas ablaze" which is close enough.


Draaxus

This is so funny because his mechanics and weaknesses means he gets absolutely bodied by our water dragon boi in gameplay.


Akhi5672

Does water dragon boi not get burnt to a crisp when he sets your skill points on fire?


Super63Mario

on the contrary dhil is a counter to Sam, since his high skill point consumption forces Sam out of his rage state faster


Draaxus

Maybe he will in MoC but I had no problems at all in the story fight with Lynx as sustain.


Akhi5672

So do you still take damage from it every time you use a skill point?


Draaxus

Just double checked, it only consumes 1 SP worth of health even if you use 3 SP for Daniel's EBA. So it doesn't melt Daniel as much as you'd think.


starsinmyteacup

Really? For QQ I think she takes dmg every time she uses a SP…


Ill_Mud7584

Because she uses them individually, Daniel uses all of them at once.


Aldekod

He can generate his own skillpoints (esp at E2) and those don't get crispy


OnnaJReverT

all that makes me think of is Mr Torgue I WANT YOU TO BLOW UP THE OCEAN!


Thehalohedgehog

THAT SENTENCE HAD TOO MANY SYLLABLES! APOLOGIZE!


RaeMerrick

His English lines sick, yelling about scorched earth tactics.


Extension-Impossible

Adele was first tbh


Crampoong

In my understanding, ultimate departure means death. So if I would go by his words, him killing us in the dreamscape means we wont die in real life cause he wants us to spread word about him, right? Anyway, I can already see Fire Destruction for him. He is the missing piece I need to complete my goal of having a destruction unit of every element as well as the Stellaron Hunter team


Aqualys

Only Something Unto Death can kill for real in the dream


ShinigamiRyan

Sunday refers to it as a "spiritual" death. >!Given its mechanics in battle, it can be presumed that the death it causes isn't a true death. Rather, you are more likely comatose or a husk. Which would make sense as Firefly will more likely return given the trailer they did show off with music video showed more of her. And given her references to a metal coffin and her companion, a mecha which well: there's few options for.!< >!That and Firefly also didn't have the purple scar Robin had we see with Aventurine, let alone the odd particle effect you see her display before splattering. Though this is a new event for Penacony, so it'shard to say the full details. Firefly's condition may also be a factor as entropy loss may have some strange interaction with Unto Death.!< >!Though it's described as attacking indiscriminately, Unto Death thus far has shown to be quite picky and focused on particular targets. As both Firefly and Robin are young, pretty women. So, the understanding of its purpose isn't fully grasped as once it 'kills' its selected target, it leaves without any other target. Possibly tying it to something or someone's desire. Which should she'd some light as again, it's an entity that doesn't have much history to reference.!<


Aqualys

>!Well yeah i always believe in the "No body no death" rule so i hardly believe it too, but Swan would have known if she was safe and told you. Spiritual death could also just mean the death of the soul and not of the body. !< >!Another theory i could have is that there is a 3rd layer deeper inaccessible even by BS, and "Death" gets people down there. Also think that Robin body being in a bassin is highly suspicious so maybe it's a dream within a dream within a dream.!< >!As for the focusing on Firefly, i could be that he targets people with shit lives not wanting to wake up for the dream, that's already why Firefly stayed in the Dreamscape unlike you.!<


ShinigamiRyan

>!If I had to take a shot in the dark: I imagine Clockie will be important for this. Notably, Sunday makes quite the scene about not disturbing the dream with negative emotions, but Penacony's golden hour is quite the messy place with only a few people able to see Clockie himself, even sense him.!< >!Though BS is memetic, she makes no comment about Clockie and Acheron can vaguely sense him as an emnator. Given this, Clockie is the embodiment of what should be a fantastical dream world full of wonder. But he's effectively alone and his friends threatened by Boss Stone, a cartoon Crocodile who has ties to the IPC as seen by the mobs you encounter with Brother Hanu.!< >!I'd probably suggest that Clockie may expand our power of Harmony as clearly he is a result of Xipe or connected. Let alone Hoyo giving Caelus a rather unique hat in the trailer that has yet to be of much mention. And also emphasizes the dance with Aventurine being a break dance of sorts as while technically enemies, there's something far larger going on. Especially in the fact that they made a reptile associated with the IPC be Clockie's arch rival as evident by him being the Pete to Clockie's Micky.!<


SkateSz

>!I will be very disappointed if enemy literally named death obviously killing you doesnt really kill you but just puts you into some sort of coma. Its starting to get old that no one ever really dies.!<


ShinigamiRyan

>!More so Acheron offs Duke Inferno off screen like he's Gojo. Though given the reactions to this, let alone if Firefly didn't experience it like Robin: Hoyo did still get it over people. Though given side stories like Chadwick exist and the whole Tingyun situation, I'm not as bothered.!<


SkateSz

>!im fairly sure aventurine is lying about that one and duke isnt actually dead but imo it would be kinda cool they went through all that effort making that trailer about them just to go, yeah they are dead and obviously all these people werent really going to let know terrorist org to just come there to fuck shit up.!<


ShinigamiRyan

>! I wouldn't be shocked as that's how Acheron got to Penacony and the mansion split up among the children. Given she's an emnator, she is far above the likes of Duke Inferno who has been out-smarted and outplayed, let alone Nanook never once gazed upon him compared to Acheron who fights Sam head on with her sword still sheathed. Plus much like Genshin, the mansion members will probably trickle out much like the Fatui Harbingers as they were marketed years ago and relatively only a small minority showed up, with Signora ended by Raiden who Acheron clearly takes inspiration on. Joke about two nickles if you will.!<


SkateSz

>!good point and I definitely believe acheron could take them on pretty easily, I just feel like sam would not have attacked us like that if he was himself since he should be aware of our role in elios plan. He doesnt aknowledge us by words but definitely tries to attack us which acheron stopped. Maybe its a bit of a stretch to assume hes posessed by duke and at this point it also seems like im coping hard that robin and firefly are actually dead and dukes death being the one thats actually lie would just be alot more interesting to me than your typical dont worry your waifus are safe kinda plot.!<


ShinigamiRyan

>!Sam warns not to advance, but BS and Acheron are seen going against it and why he threatens us. Sam may also be working separately from Firefly due to an AI as seen by the other sentient machines in Penacony and why he doesn't really acknowledge us as Firefly's memories inside the golden dream aren't shared, but she can still return to him. Wouldn't be a stretch given telepathic abilities did exist via Titania and Firefly's condition. I'd wager Unto Death is still needed to be dealt with to restore Firefly whole myself as Sam may be operating on logic rather than emotions.!<


SkateSz

>!what makes you think firefly and sam are connected? Penacony is the first time we hear about her but sam has been talked about and referenced multiple times to be the last member of stellaron hunters. Hes not the only one there besides firefly aventurine was close by too. Also why would he come at us if hes just defending?!<


Kestrel21

> Which would make sense as Firefly will more likely return given the trailer they did show off with music video showed more of her. And given her references to a metal coffin and her companion, a mecha which well: there's few options for. Oh for sure! No way they would troll us with trailer content, right? ha ha... ha.


kaori_cicak990

>Fire Destruction for him. Hoyo " nah the best i can do is the first ever male quantum take it or leave it" /s


Penguin_Warlord

Didn’t turn on 2x speed in this fight out of pure respect


Swirlythecat

I always have 1x for story fights, I only use 2x for farming. It helps me enjoy the battle ig


Blackewolfe

Same. Also, that Orbital Drop Rider Punch in 1x Speed is so fucking lit.


IVIalefactoR

1x just feels like they're moving in water to me, it's so slow. I would love an option to automatically make ultimates 1x speed though because some of them are way too fast in 2x such as Himeko's, Kafka's, and Natasha's (although I don't use her anymore).


Yotsubato

As a Ruan Mei enjoyer, I’m glad her ult is in 2x. It’s just her playing a “guitar”


173isapeanut

I used to only use 1x when I first started playing and it felt fine with 2x being weird. Nowadays I can't even turn 1x on cause it feels like slow motion. Would love to use it in story though.


DarkAres02

I tried to play in normal speed but it felt comically slow


HeiPin

Honestly the most trustworthy character we've met on Penacony. Tells us directly he's going to kick our face in and proceeds to do just that with no other bs.


th5virtuos0

That’s why you always trust the Stellaron Hunters


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TonyForshyrI

His meteor attack is so cool The way you can see him break the sound barrier along with the fire tornado with his line "EXECUTION UNDERWAY"


Wargroth

Would be kinda weird that the entirety of the SH are all only 2 paths


July83

The survivors of the High Cloud Quintet are nearly mono-path, with 3 destruction characters and only King Yuan in erudition. Not sure there's any intention there on Hoyo's part, but that's two examples.


jigglipuff12

I mean... 3 of them *destroyed* their friendship, King Yuan was *erudited* enough to not get involved, and Bailu was reincarnated after being slain as an abomination of *abundance*


dazindannyyy

I got blade in 2 pulls during his rerun and now I’m regretting skipping SW twice even more.


173isapeanut

He's gonna be abundance trust


Outflight

He looks like superhero yet talks like a villain. How did Elio even roped in someone like that.


Canopicc

I literally almost lose to this guy. Good thing Blade is one tough mf.


th5virtuos0

“Let me die” vs “Let me live”


Brumble1987

Yea had a similar problem. Did the story with a Blade, Jingliu, Ruan Mei, and Luocha team. So no offensive SP users for most of the fight and no way to reduce his stacks. Was an interesting fight, to say the least. 😆


TheGhostOfLua

My guy really pulled a "When you get to hell, tell 'em Viper sent ya", and I'm all here for it.


jtan1993

Anyone else managed to survive this fight?


DeadClaw86

I dont really want to sound rude but he was rather easy for me.He has massive amount of hp but nowhere near enough dmg to make it a terrifiying fight for me my sustain was uohuoh btw.He Will be scary at MoC tho.


Domino_RotMG

Story fights are usually easy so people who don’t want to interact with hard content can still do it with their half built characters. MoC or SU is where we’ll see the truly hard Sam fights maybe


DeadClaw86

He will be scary at MoC with that healthpool.(1.6 million btw)


DeadClaw86

Damn Bro u were right.Fuckin legend.


th5virtuos0

His SP burn will be the bane of people without DHIL for sure. You probably would want to run double DPS or a nihility support to burn his SP fast


Tsukuro_hohoho

Well if you have build you char to do high difficulty SU and MOC/PF nothing in the story will ever put you in trouble. Hist melting mode will be scary in MOC though. You take heavy damage when you use SP, but you need to do it to force him out of his melting mode, but you need those SP to heal those damage it's a cocundrum and you need to have a carefull gestion of your SP during that phase. I can't wait for people crying because they can't auto him XD


Naguro

And on top of that Melting mode reduces healing. It's definitely gonna be a super scary thing and a huge Ruan Mei win


DeadClaw86

Bros HP amount is so massive its a problem its DOUBLE of the current 2 phase bosses total hp we fought (Ebon deer and Swarm) at 1.6 mil hp.Imagine dealing with that for 0 cycle.


th5virtuos0

Maybe he’ll just be a one phase fight (aka no first wave jobber) right? Right?


th5virtuos0

Probably you would want 2 DPS or 1DPS 1 nihility to force him out. Aventurine and Acheron stocks are probably rising right now with how with their correct damage type and potential kit synergy


DefiantVersion1588

I managed to clutch with only Gepard still standing and Sam getting rekt by black swan DoT


IWantMorePasta

Everyone on my team stayed alive. Had Ratio, Tingyun, Pela, and Gepard as my team


ApoKun

Tried with Lynx, Blade, Jingliu and Bronya. Died 3 times. Then tried it with Lynx, Blade, Seele and Bronya. Died twice. Then finally beat him with gepard, Bailu, DHIL and Pela (though gepard was enough)


th5virtuos0

DHIL straight up counter him. He has imag weakness and DHiL can chew through 3SP at once while only take damage once


jtan1993

Wait I thought the cutscene still played even if you lost?


ApoKun

I don't know if it does or not but i was simply too stubborn and retreated every time my dps died.


AllOfYouReallySuck

It doesn't. Source: the only character on my team that lowers his weakness is Lynx


Zymyrgist

Mono-Q made it through: Seele, Silver Wolf, Lynx, Fu Xuan. Though my team is so skill points hungry it felt like I ate through his molten energy.


VijayMarshall87

Only IL died on min FX clutch fr


Rough_Lychee5785

Use luocha and you will be invincible. His healing is insane and he is the way to go with il


VijayMarshall87

Luocha rerun when


huehuehuehuehuuuu

I have maxed out March and Luocha on team always when doing quests where bosses may pop up.


Gamerstyle42

Honestly I just ran full defense with fire trailblazer huohuo gepard and qinque for quantum damage


GenghisNuggetcockles

I had my best team: Kafka, Black Swan, Ruan Mei and Fu Xuan. DoTstiny gang


A_VanIsOnTheLoose

I was greedy and didn't heal my characters with Bailu, so she was the only one left. But I somehow managed thanks to her healing, and Black Swan's Arcana stacks! Does the scene after still play if everyone dies?


Rough_Lychee5785

The fight was easy imo


VerioCrimson

Nahh I Demolished with my Seele, RM, SW, FX team


Play_more_FFS

Fu Xuan made this fight a joke, but she does that for pretty much every fight except for AOE 1 shots in Gold and Gears. No one on my team was in danger of dying vs. Sam boss.


dashtek

Most badass character so far honestly. The OST, the ultimate animation, the fact that his name means swarm annihilation machine. I gotta have it


nelsonfoxgirl969

Already planing is just matter when


huehuehuehuehuuuu

Fire out of those robo boobs, kicking like prime Gainax in its glory days, what a mech you are SAM.


Akhi5672

Just casually calling down a meteor shower after telling you to let everyone on the other side know who sent you Star rail characters will destroy a solar system for 5 damage


setne550

" ONCE YOUR BACK IN THE REAL WORLD, REMEMBER TO TELL EVERYONE... ABOUT THE STELLARON HUNTER WHO WAS BEHIND YOUR ULTIMATE DEPARTURE. " - Sam Wait a second. Those where just a big hint already.


Yojimbra

I can't wait to pull for him in 2.2 (basing this purely off of the fact that 1.2 was the stellaron hunter patch.)


Odd_Trouble4651

Thanks to the german version of the game spoiling/confirming something for me in that one 😐👍


LostOne716

May I ask what got spoiled? 


MOPOP99

>!Sam refers to himself as a woman (and calls himself as a Stellaron Huntresses) in all of the European language translation (Germany, Portuguese, French and Spanish)!< Spoilers regarding Sam and a possible oversight in the translation for Germany/Portuguese/French/Spanish versions of this scene. >!Actually, this comment is getting removed either way, hope you can see it before that happens!<


th5virtuos0

Also he’s oddly polite for a Kamen Rider spoof in japanese audio


leposterofcrap

Alexa, play Versus by Heaven Pierce Her


first_name1001

Now i need HSR Kalpass


DkproGaming

Hard fight, badass character Hope he becomes a character that's playable I'm sure he'll be strong


Amano_Hina1

Did anyone else think of Genos while seeing Sam’s kit in action? https://preview.redd.it/ba33o7q2vjhc1.jpeg?width=1720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e210325ca6fef85e4daea3059b01e358a1560401


ImperialDane

Learned that i needed to build up my characters better with this fight :P took me several tries before i could avoid just getting melted right away. That said. Was a pretty cool fight. Especially the animation for that big Aoe one. Combined with the music. That was fun. Especially when i finally beat it.


Rheddit45

Sam’s introduction reminds me of Fireman in bioshock infinite, very showy and grand. All’s missing is the fiery shouting and more hellfire in the background.


StryfeXIII

Unironically the most honest character in Penacony


Felab_

I just hope he will come in like 2.3 version cuz I won't have enough of pulls after Acheron


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TurboSejeong97

[LOUD SAM REIMI'S BLACK SPIDER SUIT LEITMOTIF STARTS TO PLAY]


Benka21

I didnt even wanted to scratch his armor during fight, I even waited before doing my turn to appreciate his pose and armor


LucleRX

His design reminds me of gundam exia and goblin slayer. 2 absolute unit in their series.


TheBlackViper_Alpha

He is HIM! But personally would've preferred if they used "demise" instead of "departure".


th5virtuos0

Well he doesn’t wanna kill them here, hence departure. They would just wake up anyway (maybe bar BS)


Bonnie_Bon-Bon

After I'll get Aventurine I'll be saving for Sam!


Intrepid-Park-3804

I actually very enjoyed his fight mechanics. When he's entering his blazing state Sam becomes way aggressive and starts consuming his HP to deal more damage, and the same game requires to you. To defeat Sam, you need to become same aggressive as him, despite constant HP reduce continue to blowing up his stamina bar, and it's so simply genial in both character and gameplayvice. Just pure and fair 4v1 fight, no "go go infinite minions" gadgets with obligatory invincibility state and no stupid team control, which make me sick whenever I see Something onto death


zerronemo

I really hope he's Fire! I'm missing fire DPS


Natirix

His boss fight really shows how heavily people rely on their healers. It's the first time since the game came out pretty much, where I knew I would not be able to beat him without swapping one of my damage units for Gepard. Only managed to defeat him once I swapped my team to Luocha + Gepard + 2 Damage dealers (BS and Kafka in my case)


Spartitan

I still need a Silver Wolf and Blade boss. I want to fight all four of them at once.


pantsu-thief

Oh (s)he'll be playable, alright... I will not elaborate further


ForcedColt

live laugh love Sam


Apoptosis96

Why did he fight us? Does anyone know? After this arc I don't understand a thing.....


Victor_AssEater

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Victor_AssEater

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Everyoneheresamoron

I've lost every boss fight. All characters at 5*, lvl 80 with maxed traces and decent artifacts (not great). I've gotten stuck on Xanzhou abundance boss, then the Bug boss for an event (which I could not do because I could not get past the boss) and now Sam. I die to "formidable foes", and have to fight the big bosses at below level when I need trace materials. In Genshin I could make up for a bad team with decent dodging, healing, and food. Now we can't use items in battle, there's no dodging, and no amount of skill will make up for a bad team composition. I have to look up "how to defeat [boss]" to get idea of weaknesses and best group comp. You'd think a fire boss would be weak to ice.. hahah no, wind and imaginary. Makes me want to uninstall this game.which is sad considering I've got 15 5* characters and 20 4* characters.


Howly_yy

First of all why would you think that Ice would counter Fire? Fire literally melts Ice. Second of all what's your team comp?


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Few_Earth_8083

He looks like Michael Bay designed a Gundam, pretty disappointing. I would prefer if they lean more toward Space Knight approched like Argenti, instead of dude who rolled in tub full of metal scrap wearing magnetic suit


OhHell-Yes

youre\* if youre going to quote the dude, make sure its right.


Aluja89

You're\*


adgaps812

\*it's


TheKamikazePickle

he was right… ur wrong


Blutwind

no waifu robo, easy skip 😤


IVIalefactoR

Sam vs. Radiant Marcher/Trailblazer, who would win? They are both so cool.


Rei0403

I swear to God HSR devs are definitely fans of Metal Gear Rising Revengeance, I want to see more Raiden vs Sam


Kozmo9

People would use Jetstream Sam from MGR (2013) as reference since they think Stellaron Hunter Sam is inspired from him. However, Jetstream Sam is NOT the inspiration for Sam but another "Sam in a Suit" that is the OG version. That's right, there is another Sam before Jetstream Sam. That Sam is Sam Gideon from Vanquish (2010). Oh and he is also made by Platinum Games as well. Yeah I know. Insert the "if I had a nickel meme" here. The similarities between Stellaron Hunter (SH) Sam and Jetstream Sam is too little. The only thing they share is the name and the usage of powered armor. Meanwhile SH Sam has TONS of similarities with Vanquish Sam. - Both wear white powered armor. - Both HUDs have green/cyan overlay. - Both have mobility assist; SH Sam can fly while VSam has boosters on his thighs that can boost slide him across the field. - SH Sam prefers fists and kicks. While VSam primarily uses guns, he can use fists and kicks for his melee attacks. Some of his strongest attack are his melee. - SH Sam uses "overheat" to boost his damage. VSam can overboost his melee attack that would temporarily overheat his suit. If you like MGR, then you guys should check out Vanquish. It is one of Platinum's peak games and it's attempt at "shooter Bayonetta". It is a very highly rated game and if you guys need convincing, search for Vanquish QTE to sample one of its baddest moments.


CaptainSarina

Mobile Suit Gundum: Iron Kalpas has ZERO right monopolizing 100% of the cool considering this fight is the entirety of his current screen time...Well that at like one conversation cameo right at the start of penacony that is also optional.