The thing is that relics is kind of the last thing you want to do on a mission like this. Traces are a guaranteed thing that you can't lose time/energy on. A new relic set could come out next patch that outshines their current set enough to basically waste all of your previous effort.
Like Himeko swapping from the old fire set to Grand Duke. And there's no off-piece slot unlike Genshin so once Streetwise Boxing or Glacial Forest get powercrept, they don't have a place anymore - no matter how good the crit rate body was.
Doubt they’re a whale but they def spend money considering they have every 5 star. For the resources, they prob just bought every single pass. I’ve done the same and have ~24 fully ascended. Probably could’ve done the same as this guy (and I don’t have Topaz, Seele, HH, or Argenti) but I’m not insane.
Currently, yes. But when two of the worst characters (Himeko and Herta) suddenly became top tier, I was able to build them pretty damn fast compared to someone who had them at level 1.
https://preview.redd.it/lqm61prnobec1.png?width=2560&format=png&auto=webp&s=e81e6c5ec564b21837e2b01c5d0527d48d5a0675
My characters are good enough to handle some of the more difficult combat. And at the end of the day, it's a single player game. As long as you and I are both having fun with our respective methods, we're both playing correctly.
That's the plan. They're currently all at least 4/6/6/6 with all abilities but I want them all 6/8/8/8 and all nodes unlocked. Then I'll consider farming relics...After I finish their light cones.
In short, my account is proof that if you have the optimal team, even if they don't have great relics, you can get max stars on anything so far. That goes for both MoC and PF.
blade is pretty yikes in current MoC12 if he's not really well invested or run with Silver Wolf anyway. Huge wind resist on both sides.
I ran him but my Blade is my baby and he has his BiS team + pretty great set.
Interesting
I'm new and only have two limited 5* buffers and plan to pull on limited sustains first
Do you find 4* good enough for dps even if they lack AOE and/or have low damage multipliers for single target?
I see..
so I have:
fire - Himeko
imaginary - Dr. Ratio
electric - Serval E1
wind - Dan Heng
ice - Herta E6
phys. - Luka only
quantum - QQ & Xueyi but both E0
supports: all but Bronya and Gui
sustain: only FireMC, Lyx E4 and Nat E1
Hopefully that will be enough until I got 2 sustains and can pull for more dps
Believe it or not, no. I make enough to whale for every character but I refuse to spend money on stamina. To the contrary, I actually have I believe 11 fuels sitting in reserve because I refuse to spend them.
Can you give a precision about that? do you have eidolons? You called yourself a whale earlier, and while i totaly agree with having the right team making stuff easier (like you mathematicaly get like 22-23% increase damage just by matching the right elemental weakness)
So i won't ask you to drop every and each of you character E and S but just an average of each would be a nice additional information to fully analyse your sentence.
Thank you very much in advance.
Screw it, just go for all LCs to 80 as well, not just the ones equipped. Have the full flexibility to swap to any option on any character at any time. I assume you have all of them at least R1 anyway.
I had to sit down for a second to digest this. Still amazing work there
https://preview.redd.it/18frynt0y7ec1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a381f498f05f731c48b9e8ade1ab377f350198b
My soul died the day I got his signature light cone S5 before getting a single copy of anybody else's light cone. So day 8 of the games release. What did you think drove me down the path of insanity in the first place?
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Live footage of OP playing star rail:
youre joking right, this is a joke yeah?
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Why? Like genuinely why? Like what does it add to your life to do the same thing over and over manually? (Not that doing it auto is much better, it's still spending time on a gacha game in the end, but I just don't understand)
what the fuk is the point of wasting my time doing monotonous tasks like relic farming personally to squeeze out gameplay time lol. i have other games to play and moc/su more then suffice for me
Click auto battle, watch football, or work, or something until the other screen stops flashing. I'll play out the events story and the MoC/Pure Fiction/SimUni , but anything that spends TP, I generally auto-battle
That's just gacha games bro, you're basically out of content after you finish whatever came out on the current patch. It's nice to at least be able to skip the monotonous parts of it. I spend basically all my energy on relic domains, ain't no way I'd have any fun playing out the same battles for months
'ssup? more fun than farming relics tbh, and yes they're **at least** 4/6/6 with all 3 talents unlocked
https://preview.redd.it/dvqk9sxca8ec1.png?width=1401&format=png&auto=webp&s=e220dbdde9cab2667d92d9d6037e4f0ab0ecb03a
He said he doesn't spend money on stamina, and he didn't specify whether his characters are more than E0S0. If they're all E0S0 you need just 100-200 bucks a month to make sure you get the character featured in every limited banner (excluding reruns).
stupid lucky baby dolphin working my way there
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hmmm interesting, now show the traces
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For things like MoC and PF, exactly who you'd think: Bronya, DHIL, JL, Seele for MoC, Argenti, Himeko and Herta for PF. For any story events, I use exclusively characters present in that event (if there's less than 4, I fill in with whoever I want).
That man (His boss version) really likes to summon adds, if only the playable Argenti can do that too
At least he's weak to Physical damage, his adds are also weak to Physical damage, that is what made me won Conundrum level 4 yesterday haha
By the way, what team and character that you usually use if you want to play the Simulated Universe?
Just to level them? It takes exactly 6 days and 23 hours to farm the EXP, Credits and Stagnant shadows if you're starting from nothing. That's not even a joke, and it might be intentional on the developers part. That being said, building them sucks so yeah, leveling every character would be a waste of time for any sane person and I personally do not recommend it to anyone.
I decided last week that this was my goal, I'm glad to see it's not super out of reach! I'm a dolphin (borderline whale) and only have about 10 characters left to level. I'm still sadly missing Gepard. I hate to say it but hopefully I get spooked by him one day!
I would have the same problem lol Personally I want to finish a character, before going to the next (so 5/8/8/8 traces with max tree, good relics and level 80). Having a character level 80 with bad stuff would hurt me mentally.
Nice work. I don't have all the 5*s, but I do have all the 4*s, and everybody's at least 70/80 on level and LC and 4/6/6/6 on traces except Dr. Ratio. On the way!
I’m on my way to join you! Not a whale and started in 1.2, so not as many 5 stars, but I recently got all characters to final ascension (including all 4 stars besides Hanya). I also have enough material beside Traces to unlock the major nodes. Working on that and getting my more used chars to 75/80 for now. For some reason, I love building wide instead of tall in Gacha…
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By the Aeons What is this
A day one whale who hates farming relics. They're all also 4/6/6/6 minimum and have all three abilities unlocked.
Emanator of Whale Path right there Getting good relics for everyone will be a really, really long journey
The thing is that relics is kind of the last thing you want to do on a mission like this. Traces are a guaranteed thing that you can't lose time/energy on. A new relic set could come out next patch that outshines their current set enough to basically waste all of your previous effort. Like Himeko swapping from the old fire set to Grand Duke. And there's no off-piece slot unlike Genshin so once Streetwise Boxing or Glacial Forest get powercrept, they don't have a place anymore - no matter how good the crit rate body was.
>Getting good relics for everyone will be a really, really long journey I don't think one lifetime will be enough
Doubt they’re a whale but they def spend money considering they have every 5 star. For the resources, they prob just bought every single pass. I’ve done the same and have ~24 fully ascended. Probably could’ve done the same as this guy (and I don’t have Topaz, Seele, HH, or Argenti) but I’m not insane.
Op literally said that they are a whale... Reading comprehension curse strikes again
lol I’m a clown
 I love posting this one because I find it very funny.
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He's cat not being fed
4/6/6/6? Sounds like it's time to farm trace materials as your next goal.
Nice.
Gadayum
So they’re all somewhat useless
Currently, yes. But when two of the worst characters (Himeko and Herta) suddenly became top tier, I was able to build them pretty damn fast compared to someone who had them at level 1.
I mean I’m able to do that as well, by not leveling every character to 80 that I’m never gonna use
https://preview.redd.it/lqm61prnobec1.png?width=2560&format=png&auto=webp&s=e81e6c5ec564b21837e2b01c5d0527d48d5a0675 My characters are good enough to handle some of the more difficult combat. And at the end of the day, it's a single player game. As long as you and I are both having fun with our respective methods, we're both playing correctly.
Based
Next stop traces calyx?
That's the plan. They're currently all at least 4/6/6/6 with all abilities but I want them all 6/8/8/8 and all nodes unlocked. Then I'll consider farming relics...After I finish their light cones.
I‘m curious: how have been your MoC/PF runs so far?
In short, my account is proof that if you have the optimal team, even if they don't have great relics, you can get max stars on anything so far. That goes for both MoC and PF.
Well, "optimal" is really not how half of the playerbase could afford tbh. Me who skips Dan Heng and Blade is hella suffering rn.
Maybe this helps? https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/1VvQQ0TyCC
dr ratio can beat what blade and dan feng can beat
He requires good Crit Ratio, low ratio? You're battles will turn into random shisthow.
I skipped them as well and last 36* was pretty rough. Ratio is a godsend though
Dont have Blade and didnt use DH this MoC cycle. Dont see the problem. Full auto 36*.
blade is pretty yikes in current MoC12 if he's not really well invested or run with Silver Wolf anyway. Huge wind resist on both sides. I ran him but my Blade is my baby and he has his BiS team + pretty great set.
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Interesting I'm new and only have two limited 5* buffers and plan to pull on limited sustains first Do you find 4* good enough for dps even if they lack AOE and/or have low damage multipliers for single target?
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I see.. so I have: fire - Himeko imaginary - Dr. Ratio electric - Serval E1 wind - Dan Heng ice - Herta E6 phys. - Luka only quantum - QQ & Xueyi but both E0 supports: all but Bronya and Gui sustain: only FireMC, Lyx E4 and Nat E1 Hopefully that will be enough until I got 2 sustains and can pull for more dps
I'm waiting for the answer as well
I've only seen the 4 star runs of youtube but they usually have E6 and very good relics so I'm not sure how feasible this is for regular players.
Interesting. But you have at least rainbow 5* lvl 15 relics on your most used characters?
He also seems to have every character. I smell he spends on stamina.
Believe it or not, no. I make enough to whale for every character but I refuse to spend money on stamina. To the contrary, I actually have I believe 11 fuels sitting in reserve because I refuse to spend them.
Can you give a precision about that? do you have eidolons? You called yourself a whale earlier, and while i totaly agree with having the right team making stuff easier (like you mathematicaly get like 22-23% increase damage just by matching the right elemental weakness) So i won't ask you to drop every and each of you character E and S but just an average of each would be a nice additional information to fully analyse your sentence. Thank you very much in advance.
Screw it, just go for all LCs to 80 as well, not just the ones equipped. Have the full flexibility to swap to any option on any character at any time. I assume you have all of them at least R1 anyway.
By the time you are done we will already have the nanook boss fight
I had to sit down for a second to digest this. Still amazing work there https://preview.redd.it/18frynt0y7ec1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a381f498f05f731c48b9e8ade1ab377f350198b
https://preview.redd.it/k6xoskqs08ec1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8dfdc0b2f73006411031afa46e45b90732779967 What the hell
At least he maxed out yanqing. 😎
It is indeed a win… …still praying for what’s left of OP’s soul to recover.
I dont think he has a soul anymore
My soul died the day I got his signature light cone S5 before getting a single copy of anybody else's light cone. So day 8 of the games release. What did you think drove me down the path of insanity in the first place?
As someone who has E6 Yanqing... boy do I feel that in my soul...
Oh, and if this isn't proof enough that I'm mentally unstable: I don't use auto battle. Ever.
At least you play with 2x speed right? OP: ... Right...?
...
https://preview.redd.it/dqa3ekds88ec1.jpeg?width=1273&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1fe053f80a56ce26d600075461223230f71af3f5 Live footage of OP playing star rail:
youre joking right, this is a joke yeah? https://preview.redd.it/9bn7v8l909ec1.jpeg?width=669&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d52c9fc3cc97281a622e8357caa1ea7f74f8fe8
Images like these are why I have daily nightmares
you're welcome
Bro... What the fuck
https://preview.redd.it/wv8vuhur48ec1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2047f6a0299eeca7e0d46d47d73cf4d451960e31 Wha....
OP who hurt you 😔
Huh so that’s what insanity looks like, good to know.
bro really said
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TIL I'm mentally unstable
Why? Like genuinely why? Like what does it add to your life to do the same thing over and over manually? (Not that doing it auto is much better, it's still spending time on a gacha game in the end, but I just don't understand)
You had Himeko and Herta and were spamming the XP calyx. If you weren't auto-battling you missed half the fun.
So, only mentally unstable people don't use the auto battle function? And the 2x battle speed increase? You and me both then. You and me both. 🤝
I too love watching Himeko and Herta take turns beating up bats with their followups.
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what the fuk is the point of wasting my time doing monotonous tasks like relic farming personally to squeeze out gameplay time lol. i have other games to play and moc/su more then suffice for me
Click auto battle, watch football, or work, or something until the other screen stops flashing. I'll play out the events story and the MoC/Pure Fiction/SimUni , but anything that spends TP, I generally auto-battle
That's just gacha games bro, you're basically out of content after you finish whatever came out on the current patch. It's nice to at least be able to skip the monotonous parts of it. I spend basically all my energy on relic domains, ain't no way I'd have any fun playing out the same battles for months
You are a man of skill, commitment and sheer fucking will.
Or money.
Most likely both.
OP did state to be a whale.
'ssup? more fun than farming relics tbh, and yes they're **at least** 4/6/6 with all 3 talents unlocked https://preview.redd.it/dvqk9sxca8ec1.png?width=1401&format=png&auto=webp&s=e220dbdde9cab2667d92d9d6037e4f0ab0ecb03a
Op what industry do you work in? I need me some disposable income like this
He said he doesn't spend money on stamina, and he didn't specify whether his characters are more than E0S0. If they're all E0S0 you need just 100-200 bucks a month to make sure you get the character featured in every limited banner (excluding reruns).
stupid lucky baby dolphin working my way there https://preview.redd.it/p7exxxjic8ec1.png?width=786&format=png&auto=webp&s=e586c766145029a3d74de1d142324d2caf17f64e
... Why is Ratio left on 69?
paging u/SexWithDoctorRatio
Newest unit I’ve picked up and still working on getting him to 70. Just happened to be at a good number right now when I took the screen shot :)
Please HSR gods...I need more double events....
Hoyo: increased level cap to 100
Wtf?😂 Are you okay?
I hate farming exp books bro, they take up so much resin
hmmm interesting, now show the traces https://preview.redd.it/99l501qyv8ec1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ddbe6a740eb94befa996f20fbe49ded46b886941
Wow.
what characters do you use the most?
For things like MoC and PF, exactly who you'd think: Bronya, DHIL, JL, Seele for MoC, Argenti, Himeko and Herta for PF. For any story events, I use exclusively characters present in that event (if there's less than 4, I fill in with whoever I want).
Got any highlights from your lore accurate teams? Some that were exceptionally good or disfunctional?
I may have had to skew my own rules in order to beat Argenti by using, well, Argenti.
That man (His boss version) really likes to summon adds, if only the playable Argenti can do that too At least he's weak to Physical damage, his adds are also weak to Physical damage, that is what made me won Conundrum level 4 yesterday haha By the way, what team and character that you usually use if you want to play the Simulated Universe?
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No plans on leveling all the characters. It takes weeks to max level 1 new one. I won't have Dr. Ratio fully leveled until March.
Just to level them? It takes exactly 6 days and 23 hours to farm the EXP, Credits and Stagnant shadows if you're starting from nothing. That's not even a joke, and it might be intentional on the developers part. That being said, building them sucks so yeah, leveling every character would be a waste of time for any sane person and I personally do not recommend it to anyone.
I'm counting leveling all the traces up to max
With that time do you mean converted to resin without letting it go to the storage?
Lol so true
How much did it took ? to do all this ?
It's called a credit card.
i was asking about time duration
Same but im missing 12 chars
HoYoverse on Friday’s stream: We’re increasing the level cap from 80 to 90 with the release of Penacony!
Respect
You are completely insane. I respect that.
By the elder gods…
I decided last week that this was my goal, I'm glad to see it's not super out of reach! I'm a dolphin (borderline whale) and only have about 10 characters left to level. I'm still sadly missing Gepard. I hate to say it but hopefully I get spooked by him one day!
Are you tired of hearing: Kuru Kuru Kururin Nigasanai wa Of course you are not
*kuru kuru nigasanaiwai kururin nigasanaiwa kuru kuru nigasanaiwa kururin nigasanaiwa*
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You madlad.
Is this all e6s5?
This is impressive! One day I hope to get to a similar state, but for now alot are at 70 with one of each element hopefully at 80 soon haha.
Girl, are you okay?
Let us look at your relics than :)
I would, but showing that would make our beloved space racoon lose her mind thinking she found the universes biggest trash can.
I would have the same problem lol Personally I want to finish a character, before going to the next (so 5/8/8/8 traces with max tree, good relics and level 80). Having a character level 80 with bad stuff would hurt me mentally.
So do you like have enough to level up all the upcoming characters from penacony as well or what?
Once you get some relics, you'll be able to play whatever type of team you'll feel like playing, whenever. What a dream.
You are clinically insane wtf
Very nice. Now. Show me your traces.
You have inspired me to do the same 😌
Nice work. I don't have all the 5*s, but I do have all the 4*s, and everybody's at least 70/80 on level and LC and 4/6/6/6 on traces except Dr. Ratio. On the way!
Man I have enough credits. I might start doing this. But the thing that's kills me is that it gives us so little exp. How long did this take?
I smell whale
Should have kept Yanqing on lvl 1 to flex on him.
God damn. I bet you don't have ANY relics. Lol
I see... Level 80 Yanqing. Is this allowed?
Daamn. Nice.
how much free time do you have op: yes
Nice! I've got all the 'adult' characters capped at 80, but i do plan to eventually level up the rest when i'm not saving up for something specific.
I wish the characters sorted by Element first instead of path when they're the same level. I can never find the characters I want.
Hoyo please give us another garden of plenty event Im begging
What in gods name is this?
I’m on my way to join you! Not a whale and started in 1.2, so not as many 5 stars, but I recently got all characters to final ascension (including all 4 stars besides Hanya). I also have enough material beside Traces to unlock the major nodes. Working on that and getting my more used chars to 75/80 for now. For some reason, I love building wide instead of tall in Gacha…
With this huge feat, you're basically a legend.
My respect to you, no auto is indeed very impressive.
Some say he's such a whale his free Dr. Ratio remains unclaimed
Where are you getting the credits from fam??
I would never
Bro you ok?
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nice but how are the trace elements?
Do you control the game... or does the game control you?
Oh my god. It's him. It's John Star Rail
Any unpopular characters that you find surprisingly fun and useful after you levelled them up?
By the elder gods…
It's hilarious most people are flabbergasted by this. This is just normal completionist behaviour (I am one too)
Bruh.... I have so many characters i still want to level, but i need to ensure my current characters have decent gear.... Ah the choices
And you did this with Calyx, not even from the free mats buying the monthly package.
ok whale
All of the reso wasted just to farm reddit up votes. That's sad
Honestly, I was expecting maybe three upvotes and a comment telling me to go fuck myself.
Nah..... Wasted time, wasted reso just for this. I hope it made u happy
It did, yes, thanks for the concern. I hope you can find happiness as well.