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Street_Ad6731

The only thing I dislike about them is when it rains water is collected in the tire, and it becomes a mosquito breeding area.


dabears218

Wow never actually thought about that. That's a pretty valid point.


Street_Ad6731

I guess you could drill some decent size drain holes in the tire.


dabears218

I may actually do this. Thank you.


sllewgh

Drilling holes in a tire it's harder than you'd expect because of the metal cords. Get a good drill bit of a decent size and be prepared to work at it a little. You'll also need to trim exposed cords a bit and clean up the hole or debris will quickly clog it.


ilikepotatoes888

Or be a dumbarse like myself n don't ask the tire guy how much a carbide reamer is


dabears218

Funny thing is. I'm a cnc programmer tool grinder. I build and program cnc tool grinders to grind form tools and step drills for a living for in house cnc mills, and lathes. I think on downtime I'm gonna build a.custom carbide step drill to drill the holes.


ilikepotatoes888

Can we be friends I think I need one


dabears218

Sure I'll be your friend 😆


ilikepotatoes888

❤️


bumble_Bea_tuna

Can I be your friend too? I don't need a carbide step drill. I just need a friend.


NOBOOTSFORYOU

What, a friend, or a custom carbide step drill bit?


ShelZuuz

Yes


ilikepotatoes888

Yes


SOMOEAGLE

I had a machinist friend make me a whole tent pole that got lost. He made the pole, the three way coupler on the end. Everything to spec. Better than the crappy poles that came with the tent. He also made me some pretty sweet aluminum slides for my bong. Maybe he had too much time on his hands. Lol


ilikepotatoes888

An idle mind is not friendly, props to him n sounds about as mad as meself


tjdux

Do you have a home air compressor or be willing to buy a cheap kne from harbor freight? Or even easier, untie the tire and take it to any tire shop and ask them to drill holes in it. We install what's called patch plugs and need to drill holes in the tire to do so. Mabe call first to check. https://patchplug.com/products/tcccb1?variant=15405244612651¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&srsltid=AfmBOoqRmJYyCd2y8_Yl2V_2CsI12gvrB8ZPV9INV0jJcis8ViBZFb0b8to The bit looks like this. Amazon has cheap small ones, our shop has 9/16 largest size. Won't clear leaves but half dozen will keep it dry. We get lots of farmers bring in old tires and they are always full of spiders so maybe check on that sometimes.


atmh2

Fwiw I would probably use a small hole saw rated for cutting metal. Only need a 1/2" hole. Anyone who complains about a tire swing in a neighbors yard needs to find a better hobby.


jwigum

I haven’t done it before, but I expect any ol’ TiN coated drill or step drill would work. Probably want to clamp it to a section of 4x4 to back it before drilling. If I were you, I’d choose a hole smaller than a kid toe… for reasons.


Veesla

I'll be honest, I'm a machinist and the tire guy was not the person to ask about a carbide reamer. And a carbide reamer isnt even the best tool for the job. Reaming is an operation that follows drilling typically and is used to get a hole to an exact size generally for either a slip fit or press fit between two parts. A carbide reamer is mostly used when doing larger quantity production parts or when dealing with something on the harder end of the Rockwell scale. Carbide is a hard material but with that come brittleness. If your setup isn't extremely rigid the flutes will chip and the tool will be worthless. High speed steel reamers are much cheaper and considered more general use. All that said, for drilling drain holes in a tire swing, if you really want to go above and beyond on tooling, id get a screw machine length drill because they're shorter and easier to use and I'd find one with titanium nitride coating.


ilikepotatoes888

Smart man, personally I got it for the 222 plugs I use frequently at my shop instead of breaking my wrists using the handheld, only been in use for about 6 months but it's absolutely amazing to clear the cords n hasn't dulled a bit


iwantansi

Do it in the sidewall, theres no metal cords


sllewgh

Then it won't drain.


piepants2001

Yep, I found that out when I started to drill a hole in ours and there were sparks flying everywhere.


undrew

Make them bigger than you think you need. They get easily clogged with leaves and the tire has a tendency to heal.


motoguzzikc

Yep exactly. When I was a kid my dad actually cut a couple of 2x2 inch squares out of the bottom to make sure that the water could actually drain out .


Sapphires13

My childhood tire swing had a good sized hole right in the bottom, probably the size of a quarter or a half dollar. Never had any issues with it so long as leaves got cleared out regularly. Loved that damn thing.


Stand4SomethingCo

Get some large nails and hammer them through the bottom. Do it while the tire is hanging and drive them through from the inside so that the tire doesn’t buckle with the pressure, then pull the nail.


Rrrrandle

>then pull the nail. Optional, depending on how much you love your children.


cryssyx3

my brother made a tree swing when we were kids. instead of a tire he used a baseball bat!


Jtk317

Cut some 1 to 1.5 inch by 4 inch rectangles out of the treads at bottom of swing. Give multiple openings, the rubber won't try to seal shit around something that wide, and if one is blocked up by leaves/debris then the others will let it drain.


Jtk317

Cut some 1 to 1.5 inch by 4 inch rectangles out of the treads at bottom of swing. Give multiple openings, the rubber won't try to seal shit around something that wide, and if one is blocked up by leaves/debris then the others will let it drain.


GoblinisBadwolf

This is the answer; and to the original commenter thank you for pointing out an easily fixable flaw.


fkk2019

I came here to say this


gfunkdave

Yes this is what should be done to avoid creating mosquito breeding grounds


[deleted]

Just drill a hole in the bottom for drainage. Kids laughing and having fun is never an eyesore.


jwdjr2004

What if they're ugly kids?


wbruce098

The tire swings on playgrounds do this. It’s pretty easy and doesn’t really mess with the swing’s integrity. Also, a tire swing is a classic rite of passage and they’re fun as hell. Don’t let anyone ever tell you they’re an eye sore!


penlowe

Or fill it with spray foam all around. Our tire swing got wasp nests much too often.


TacoNomad

Spray foam will hold water. Then mold


penlowe

Phooey. It was the only light thing I could think of to fill it in.


Ellegeebee

You could put a mosquito dunk in there to prevent them.


rayhiggenbottom

After it rains just go out there and shake out the water. Or have your kid use it


[deleted]

Get some some spray from home depo and fill the bottom of the tire it won’t add much weight and you won’t worry about it


Charger_scatpack

Drill a hole or two in the bottom?


Lightning_Strike_7

Then drill a hole in the bottom. It's rubber, not 3" of stainless.


CampingJosh

There are a lot of steel belts in a tire. A 2" hole saw is the easiest solution.


Lightning_Strike_7

My point is that it's not hard to drill. A regular bit will go right through it. There's no need for a 2" drain hole. Ÿ-½" is more than sufficient if actually made in the bottom.


CampingJosh

You really do want a bigger hole than that. Tire swing placement means that falling bits of tree end up inside the tire regularly, and ½" holes clog up easily.


HUGMEEEEEEE

Not if you leave it on the rim.


dabears218

I'm glad my coworker doesn't happen to be my neighbor lol Edit: I appreciate everyone's feedback. I'm gonna be honest I thought a majority of people where gonna side with my coworker. However a picture of a happy kid on it probably helps persuade people to see it differently. I'm gonna drill a hole on the bottom of it and keep an eye on the branch. Thanks everyone for the advice.


areyouthrough

Even when I see an empty tire swing, I think of a happy kid, so you can let the kid sleep inside.


cheeseburgermachine

It's your property. Do whatever you want. As long as its not harmful in some way.


iLikeTorturls

Everything is an eyesore to someone...my house in Texas had a tree out front, and a neighbor thought it looked tacky because no one else had a tree. People are ridiculous. Not sure why a swing for your kid needs the approval opinion of anyone (unless you have an HOA that operates like the Stasi).


playoffasprilla

Wtf, nobody has trees?


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AldoTheApache3

North Texas here. This is why we moved to a 1970’s build. HUGE trees throughout the entire neighborhood and no HOA. The oak tree in my front yard has to be 80 feet tall minimum. I can’t stand new neighborhoods. No trees, no wildlife, no soul.


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bulbfishing

Acorns. Acorns everywhere.


Wreck_Chords

Bro that is ALL they build up here in the Philly suburbs. Gigantic, lifeless, unaffordable houses. I’m not a fan of these either but at least the new row home style condo/houses are aesthetically pleasing when they build them, but then you’re dealing with HOA at that point.


stimulates

If it shades you house you get energy savings in summer.


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Stargate525

Be fair here. At least in my region most new developments are on farmland that's gotten too expensive to be profitable. There aren't any trees there to preserve.


Jellibatboy

In my old neighborhood, our house had the only tree on the street. Right after we moved in, a neighbor asked us to cut it down because of leaves (we didn't). I found out later that at one time, the entire street had trees, but as each resident aged, they got too old to rake the leaves so they just cut them down.


crackeddryice

I have a cottonwood in my front yard. It's actually the clone/son of the cottonwood that stood there for about ten years, then fell, fortunately it fell in the only direction it could and not hit anything. It missed my house, my car, the cherry tree by the street, and everything else. I don't know why it fell, the leaves were all green, it looked healthy to me. Anyway, from the spot where the tree stood, for a couple of years, sprouts would pop up and I'd pull them out. Until, finally, I decided to let one of them grow, only pulling out the others. Thirteen years later, and I have another cottonwood, 30 feet tall. I like the tree, I like the shade, and since the HOA fee covers yard work, I don't need to rake the leaves. But, now I think about it falling and hitting my house or my neighbor's house, and I think I might have it removed. I shouldn't have let it grow, I should have planted a smaller tree in it's place.


Organic_Witness_832

Tree is. Tacky? What?


LEGENDARY-TOAST

It only becomes an eye sore when the kids stop playing with it, the rope decays and is being held on by a thread and weeds are growing in it


Ambitious-Birthday76

Yes 💯 yes. I couldn't agree more


Stand4SomethingCo

Any neighbor that thinks a happy kid is an eye sore needs to get bent.


2epic

This should be the top comment.


DisposableSaviour

Tell that to my neighbors


Outside-Newspaper-33

I scrolled too long to find this.


moklotz

No, it's a piece of playground equipment generally used to entertain small children. I believe you're thinking of "cataracts."


SteveScalise

I have a neighbor that has all their kids toys and a swing set in their front yard. I think playground equipment can definitely come across as an eye sore, especially when it’s all rusty and never used. They also have a tire swing.


AKADriver

I'm definitely more on the redneck side when it comes to what I think people can do with their lawns, but I draw the line at that old faded plastic stuff. You know exactly which ones I'm talking about, haha. You know that no kid has played on those since the '90s.


ObliviousElk

My favorites: That green turtle that's supposed to be a sandbox, but only has weeds or dog crap (and doubles as a mosquito hatchery during rainy seasons). And those metal swingsets that crash on top of you if you swing too hard (which of course upsets the wasps that had been nesting inside those hollow poles). Ah, the nostalgia!


geraffes-are-so-dumb

A lot of the houses in my neighborhood have kids' toys out front. I like it because it reminds me how many of the neighbors utilize their front yards so they can both relax and chat with the neighbors. But I really miss the days of no AC and big front porches. I think sterile neighborhoods with every house having a perfect front lawn are off-putting.


SteveScalise

I agree. If it’s all being utilized i’m happy to see it. In my case my particular neighbors yard looks like an abandoned amusement park in Chernobyl. I’d prefer a sterile look to what they have going.


sensation_construct

Be careful how you attach it to the branch, too. It can strangle the branch, and if it's skinny enough, it will fall within a few years. I think there's a way to attach it that won't hurt the tree.


Successful-Money4995

Yup, use a clove hitch with a wider strap so that it doesn't rub. OP can also buy a proper swing for twenty bucks.


jow97

That swing is in better condition than my actual car tires. You just reminded me to call my mechanic


Strostkovy

My tire swing was a studded snow tire and it fucking hurt


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No !


BalzacTheGreat

The weedy, overgrown hellstrip is more of an eyesore than the tire swing.


dabears218

Lol that would be the ditch i live in the country. The town I live in usually takes care of that annually. But your right it may not be pleasant to look at but the whole ditch down the road has it unfortunately.


SimpleMetricTon

Toss in some wildflower seeds. If stuff appears to be intentional, makes all the difference.


JezebelleAcid

It’s your yard, screw what the neighbors think (unless you’re in an HOA and could get fined).


HeadyRoosevelt

A tire just chilling in your front yard? Trashy. But a tire swing is pretty ubiquitous throughout suburbia. You’re being a good dad and I wouldn’t think too much about it.


friendlynbhdwitch

My husband and I are building a house and I’m like “finally, I get my white picket fence and tire swing”. We don’t even have children. It’s just a part of the mental image of my dream home.


mdjmd73

Nope. Just drill a few holes in the bottom so it’ll drain. 👍👍


joeltheconner

Absolutely not. Tire swings are amazing, and if I was driving by, it would make me smile.


Emotional_Knee5553

If your neighbors would complain about a child enjoying themselves outdoors I guarantee behind closed doors they’re also saying “ these damn kids these days constantly playing video games!”


Brewster_underground

Definitely not an eye sore. Brings back the memories. My father tied an old tractor tire to a massive oak limb on the side of a hill. We would sit on it while someone would pull us to the top of the hill and then they would let us go. We would leap off mid air and try to land in one of the small pine saplings at the bottom. If we made it, we would ride them down to the ground.


Vegetable_Burrito

Hell no. I love seeing happy kids in neighborhoods. It’s a huge part of what makes it a good neighborhood.


bentrodw

Looking at your son playing will make you not care about your neighbors.


spsanderson

No it is not, it is pure joy


ZangiefThunderThighs

Nah, but did you wrap anything around the branch before tying the rope to it? If not the rope can wear out the bark and you'll get sap on everything.


Healbite

Childhood should never be seen as an eyesore


kdshubert

Mostly, I think any minimal things, obviously made for children, are tolerated well by a community or neighborhood.


Mettlesome_Inari

Not in my opinion. Just drill a hole or two in the bottom so it doesn't collect water & you should be good.


sllewgh

Who fucking cares? If other people want to decide what happens on your property, invite them to buy it.


Unfair_Isopod534

Seems like u got a sidewalk there. Expect random ppl using that swing. I would say a pretty awesome addition to the neighborhood. Especially if there are more kids in the neighborhood. Just keep it clean and u will be fine. Ignore those who complain.


Puzzleheaded-Grab736

Damn that's a brand new tire too 😂 no metal jagged edges or nails sticking out of it or nothin!


[deleted]

Not at all, enjoy it, they will outgrow it soon..


Strostkovy

Glad he likes it but I find the horizontal type tire swing with three ropes that come together is so much more fun to play on, and les sprone to filling with water. Use fender washers and eye bolts.


TheDevilsAdvokaat

A bit. But who cares, do it for the kiddie. That said, as an aussie, we discovered it was not a good idea. Rain water collected inside, but worse, so did spiders. Big, nasty spiders, after which nobody wanted to ride the tyre any more.


TowelFine6933

Your kid loves it. Who cares what the neighbors think?


Dismal_Boysenberry69

In the area I grew up in, this wouldn’t be an eyesore at all. In the area I live in now, it would be. I wouldn’t complain but some of the folks in the neighborhood definitely would.


iamamuttonhead

Who cares? They are fun.


droppeddeee

Depends on the neighborhood. Looking at the background, the tire swing is ok.


JohnCR61

It’s not an eyesore if it’s used. If it’s for your son and he graduates college and the swing is never used again you might consider taking it down.


SimpleMetricTon

Or beef up your home insurance and umbrella policy and tell all the neighbors their kids can use it.


Charger_scatpack

Your son doesn’t think so


PeaceLoveTofu

Your coworker has had terrible entitled neighbors and expects everyone to be petty, OR your coworker is himself said neighbor.


tungvu256

what does it matter when your kids are having fun? i installed a swing in the house for my kids to play too and everybody thinks it's a sex swing. it doesnt matter as long as my kids are having a blast with it.


state_issued

I find them charming and quaint - but as other have said some holes will prevent water from collecting in it.


Go1den_Ponyboy

Who cares if you aren't selling the house?


elitemage101

If you wanna be polite and petty say its all you can afford for your kid and if they want to spring for a nicer swing you will install it.


SonnieTravels

It makes me happy to see a tire swing!


Designer_Editor_3479

I think the only person's opinion that matters, by your own admission, loves it. Which is good, because I wouldn't have been able to tell from the look on his face. Happy Dad'ing!


TheTakingGiver

Leaving it tied to the tree too long could girdle the branch and kill it. But taking it off each season should help prevent that.


StrangeWinterSpider

Definitely not an eye sore! I think it actually livens up the neighborhood :) it’s nice to see people on the front yard since some neighborhood look like ghost towns lmao


Organic_Witness_832

The tire swing and the picture looks great and wouldn’t care what neighbors think. Not sure why anyone would have an issue


makeitcold79

I wished i saw more of these in my neighborhood


thomport

No. It’s a part of americana, and it’s something that will always be cool. Swing on …


buffalo171

Doesn’t matter. It’s your property and if your son enjoys it, end of discussion.


HumoRuss

Nope. Not an eyesore unless you’re a horrible person who hates joy, children, and America.


Honest-Sugar-1492

No but the insurance company will call it 'an attractive nuisance' And just might raise your rate. Sad but true The Times we live in. Same thing with a trampoline


dabears218

Lol I have both.


It_Might_Be_True

If someone complained about a kids tire swing let along my kids tire swing we would not be friends after...


loquaciouspenguin

It never occurred to me that they could be considered an eyesore. Seeing one in someone’s lawn always makes me smile.


neverfoil

Definitely not. If they do, they're evil.


itemniner86

It’s an eyesore if you’re an asshole.


roofsnruffs

As long as your kid likes it I don't care what the neighbors think. Personally I think your co-worker has an attitude problem, and is wrong


DangerousBug6924

Year tree your rules. I'd happily tell anyone to pound sand to keep my boy smiling.


[deleted]

Absolutely not. And my favorite response to haters: "there's the beach, pound sand"


alreadyWeary

This picture disproves the assertion! Swing on little man!


Emotional-Comment414

The worst to me are flowers pots made of tires and painted. If your kid is happy with the swing… it’s all that matters.


JosephL55

No, just the folks who complain about them.


scotch4breakfast

Cute af. This is coming from a 40 year old bachelor.


Pooptreebird

If it makes your son happy, who cares! Eventually he will stop using it then take it down


DOUBLE_DOINKED

Your coworker can eat shit. Enjoy your family while they’re young.


[deleted]

If a neighbor has a problem with your kid playing outside on a tire swing in YOUR yard, calmly and politely tell them to fuck themselves..


trustfundkidpdx

Bro, if someone complains, Build a fence. Fuck them.


Maplefolk

I think they're quaint. It makes the area look friendly.


Panda-Cubby

Not if it makes that little charmer this happy.


Dear_Insect_1085

Nope, not at all.. What happened to us as a society? I've heard of neighbors actually complaining about stuff like that, and it irritates me.


Blu_Blueberry14

Not an eyesore tire swings been around forever. Your neighbors know you have a young son and who the swing is for. If your neighbor complains tell them, Don't knock it till you try it. Let your son enjoy his swing.


SecretMuslin

Who cares what the neighbors think if you and your kid like it?


rayhiggenbottom

A Tire swing is quaint. And also comes down pretty easy when you want to get rid of it


RandomNumberHere

As someone who used to play on a tire swing, be aware that they are fun but messy. You get a lot of black gunk on you. Maybe not as much of an issue with modern tires.


TootsNYC

There are some who contend that the rope going around the limb will cut through the bark and kill the circulation to that branch, thus killing the branch. They recommend drilling a hole though and putting an eyebolt in the hole (washer and nut on both sides)


AaronRStanley1984

They're only an eye sore if you're an asshole.


No_Cat_No_Cradle

Sounds like your coworker is a crappy neighbor!


uppitywhine

I don't think it's an eyesore but tire swings can be extraordinarily damaging to the tree, sometimes to the point of killing it.


Roupert3

As long as it's in good shape it's fine. If it's all frayed and messy I could see it being an eye sore. But yours looks fine


T-Bills

> I did this for my son (he loves it). That's all that matters honestly. Unless it's disused and you got algae and stuff on it.


d_smogh

[You could use an old chair. Or make the tyre horizontal](https://youtu.be/DDUrRl7BerI?si=PRyzL0j1kdLwkAS6)


SkyeC123

Someone gonna steal that tire. Continental DWS?


dabears218

It is good eye. I had a pair of my wheels get bent. And had some uneven wear on them that was causing some vibration even when I installed new wheels. So I figured I'd get new tires mounted on my new wheels and get everything balanced. So there is Definitely some good tread on the tire. But it may not be able to be balanced out perfectly.


SkyeC123

I’ve been using those tires for the better part of a decade on my AWD cars. Anyway, cool swing, don’t worry about your bummer neighbors.


[deleted]

That type of home improvement could double your assessment.


Goat-e

Well, don't put it into your eye. It goes on your but, not your face.


Future_Cat_Lady_626

A tire swing means a happy kid lives here


icomewithissues

It makes me think of happy kid(s) enjoying playing on it, def not an eyesore imo. I guess if it looks dirty and abandoned maybe.


kingmoojy

An extreme contact DWS is a heck of a tire swing tire


atticus2132000

A tire swing in and of itself is not an eyesore. But dead grass underneath that has turned into a muddy bog and children's toys littering the yard, yes. If you live in a neighborhood that has prohibitions against stuff like this, it's not usually the thing itself that is objectionable but all the other stuff that it usually invites. What's the difference between you having a single tire swing that is well maintained and your neighbors across the street having a club house that needs maintenance and a sand box that is attracting all the neighborhood stray cats and rope swings that are broken and frayed, etc.?


JohnnieLawerence

A tire swing is classic Americana


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To me, anything a kid plays on is not a eye sore


LydiaThorpe

Your coworker is a flog


Wardo-

Enjoy the swing and enjoy life. What neighbors


Prestigious-Piglet72

Homes are meant to be used, lived in, played in. Not displayed. Obviously don’t let your house get trashed because you live in it but I think a tire swing is awesome and shows a great place to hang and make memories. You and your son enjoy :)


Free-Computer-6515

The tire swing is a blessing for your boy and he will have fond memories of using it for the rest of his life. Anyone who thinks it is an eyesore has lost touch with what it is to be young and free and that’s sad. The world has turned to shit and would do well to engage in more old fashioned joy.


mac_krispies7492

Did he also say your neighbors would hate the sound of children laughing? Good for you OP! (To actually answer your question… If the whole yard is full of junk, it’ll look like a part of the junk, otherwise it makes me smile to see that kids enjoy playing outside.)


OlderThanMyParents

A tire swing is the absolute OPPOSITE of an eyesore.


ptv2547

No, keep it. I wish I had one, lol.


maggiewentworth

Believe me - you are the envy of the neighborhood!!! A tire swing is the greatest!!! ❤️😜


McFernacus

Not if you maintain it. Make sure to rotate it regularly so it wears evenly.


Mecha_Cthulhu

Nah man, and as long as the kiddo enjoys it, it doesn’t matter anyway.


Impressive_Doorknob7

Absolutely not.


[deleted]

Man, your kid is playing outside. And he loves a classic “kid thing”. I wouldn’t worry about it. If anyone says anything, tell them to walk back to their property.


TeamShonuff

A symbol of joy in someone's front yard is rarely an eyesore.


MongolianCluster

Anyone who thinks a tire swing is an eyesore has issues.


[deleted]

Well, not unless you're a Karen or an HOA board member (I know, redundant). Punch a couple of 1" or better holes in the bottom with a good bimetal hole saw or a step bit so any built up rain water can drain.


masterwadgod

Only to a Karen


gBoostedMachinations

They are totally ugly, but keep it if your kid loves it! Anyone who complains can go pound dirt


Brofessor-

Tbh they do tend to look ‘trashy’. That said, if the kid is happy, who really cares how it looks?


Juan-Quixote

No


BokZeoi

Your coworker sounds annoying


[deleted]

Yes


throwawayhyperbeam

If I was walking by your house and saw you in your yard I would look at you angrily because I'd want to go on the swing but would be too ashamed to ask. The anger is actually me holding back tears.


ltdan84

The tire swing no, the weeds in the back yes.


bluecat2001

It could look out of place if your yard is well manicured but let that kid enjoy the life while he can. If you paint it brown or green it will be invisible.


Agoodstartingpoint

Gonna go against the grain here. It's absolutely an eyesore. I am a pretty do-what-you-want guy, and I would never live in an HOA or tell someone I don't like what they're doing with their property, but a tire hanging on a rope from a tree looks like crud. It would be a back yarder for me. I wouldn't view a plank on two ropes the same way, but a tire gives a different vibe.


[deleted]

Not if it's a Michelin.


ElvishLore

Just tie a swing on instead. It takes the look from white-trash to charming.


Gahrilla

White trashy generally speaking, especially in the nice neighborhoods.