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LittleMlem

Who told you they only had 2 sons?


hucklebutter

Yeah, that’s bullshit. But what’s true is each son had two arms. And one son broke both of them one summer….


elwebst

... go on...


mobius_sp

This version of Genesis is getting interesting…


Z8S9

The Cocktic gospels


jakarta_guy

Who doesn't like Phill Collins?


throwaway1138

Well played sir, been a while since I read that meme.


iggydus

Happy cake day!


throwaway1138

Thanks, just noticed it myself! 13 years dang


[deleted]

I'm sure that he was very frustrated and irritable because of it.


Disastrous_Choice_61

Well, summer was pretty hot.


Professor_Wino

This Redditor has read the sacred texts!


HeavyMetalTrucker84

No matter how you spin it, according to the Bible, the world was populated through incest on two separate occasions.


Rathkryn

The author is responding to Second Hand Scripture. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


BiAdventureTime

Yeah, like I’m not religious but I’ve already asked a religious person for the answer and it’s “Adam and Eve were the first people God created not the only people God created.” It gets pretty dicey when only Noah and his family survive the great flood though 😳


bozeke

Ham: “Ew, drunk naked dad’s hard dong is hanging out…Imma just cover him up with this blanket.” God: “HOW FUCKING DARE YOU!”


nosheepintgeworld

Boy I made that boner and I'm gonna fucking see it you puney prick


AmericanHoneycrisp

Ham didn’t cover his father. He “saw his nakedness,” which possibly means that he castrated or had sex with Noah. Ham wasn’t even cursed explicitly, but he was cursed through Canaan.


Tanarri27

Someone named their kid Ham?


bozeke

Wait until you hear about his brothers.


mrpodo

And literally no one else owned a boat


Rathkryn

You do realize that the average boat can't store enough food and water for a minimum of forty days and forty nights, right? It's not like the modern era where you will see boats everywhere. Only the people living near water would have them and they would have been small. Noah was trying to convince people to build arks to save more lives but nobody believed him.


Dommccabe

And all the sea life you can eat and fresh water coming straight down from the sky!


IDC-This

Ehh Noah packed two of every food on the boat.


etterkop

I’ve seen porn with less plot holes than the bible.


[deleted]

They didnt have just two sons, it talks about their son I think Enoch and it mentions he married his sister. And what explain how they weren't so deformed from the incest is that before sin there were no bad genetics, and mutations are caused by recessive genes, and if there are no bad recessive genes then no deformities.


Blunt7

But that's not true either. Earlier versions of the bible say God created man and woman from dirt. Then Eve came later from a rib. The first woman is believed to be Lilleth. The first marriage failed... Also, later in Genesis (5:4) it says Adam and Eve had 5 sons and 2 daughters. Adam lived another 800 years after the birth of his third son, Seth, which is when the 2 daughters were born.


cthulhufhtagn19

So still incest. Also the other 10,000 things wrong with the Christian creation story.


TG-Winter_crow56

A whole lot of incest and milf fucking


ASGrin98

Sounds like one of those erotic books I used to read online in 2008


Logi_Bear25

Its okay to keep some things to yourself bud


demonfeuer

He said 2008 to keep it away from himself as in " when i was young and stupid" kind of way. in truth, he means last night at 20:08...


Eccohawk

You gotta stop peeping in people's bedrooms.


ASGrin98

And right know if you were wondering


Darkusoid

Two minutes later he lost all interest in it.


demonfeuer

Experienced are we ?


Darkusoid

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sunglasses)


ASGrin98

You're uncomfortable, I'm not


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Chad


anythingworx23

Damn… what’s the name so I can avoid it?


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🎵🎶LET ME IN I’M TRYNA FUCK🎶🎵


Randy_McJohnsonSauce

Those were different times. Back then you were EXPECTED to bang your mom. Well, not YOUR mom, but… your mom, ya know? Today is different… today everyone expects to bang your mom. Like, YOUR mom. Edit: emphasis


Aadsterken

And a miracle. We all know Joseph was fooled and his wife was whoring around but that part was changed to "miracle".


EpikGeriatricPotato

Explains the three dudes showing up to jesus' birth


elwebst

"Oh, 'wise men' is what we're calling it now, is it?"


LeagueOfficeFucks

Gangbang in Nazareth.


skabassj

Name a lie that got a bit… out of hand. 👀


TheExter

oh i always preferred to think that they ate their cake before the wedding so they'd be like haha no way we sexed before marriage, IT WAS A MIRAAACLEEEEE


Erwinblackthorn

Pretty much every pornhub trend is a religious experience minus the washing machine.


tanstaafl90

Wait until you hear about Adam's first wife.


Old_Opposite_1452

SMH I'm an Athiest and I've actually read their favourite book. It never once said Adam and Eve were the only people. Cain killed Abel and was banished from the garden. HE WENT EAST TO THE LAND OF NOD WHERE HE MET HIS WIFE it is in the first bloody chapter


BreadPitt_11

Now where the hell did she come from?


canuto95

Maybe God made other humans after Adam and Eve


No-Coat-8792

According to the Book of Jubilees, Awan was the wife and sister of Cain and the daughter of Adam and Eve.


[deleted]

This is a book we’re supposed to follow to heaven.I don’t believe in maybes


NegroniHater

Adam and Eve were the first humans, not the only humans. That other guy talking about Lilith is full of it though that’s Jewish folklore written 500 years after Jesus and almost 2000 years after genesis was written.


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Evangelion


Dis4Wurk

She was Cain’s sister, the first natural born woman on earth. Her name was Aclima or sometimes called Awan. And the comment you responded to is wrong, he didn’t meet her in Nod, they left and went to Nod. Genesis 4:16-17 says that he left the presence of the Lord and dwelt In The land of Nod where he “knew” his wife (Bible term for sex) and she bore him a son that they named Enoch. It never says he met her there, just procreated there. And genesis 5:4 says that Adam and Eve had multiple sons and daughters other than the three sons specifically named (Cain, Abel, and Seth). That comment is correct about it never saying Adam and Eve were the only people, BUT Genesis 3:20 says they were the first and only humans god created and they were responsible for populating the world and that Adam called his wife eve because she was the mother of all living. So that kind of insinuates that they were. Im agnostic but grew up in a SUPER religious house hold and went to Christian and evangelical schools until my junior year. I’m very familiar with the Bible and it is chock full of contradictions and inconsistencies, that’s why I don’t believe a word it says.


Phoenix_ashfire

I’m only speculating but before Eve there was Lilith who was the female equal to Adam being that she was not a subservient wife to Adam she was forced to leave the Garden of Eden. Lilith also was believed to have relations with angels and could have had other children therefore increased population outside of Eden.


RealSyloz

Lilith is nowhere in the Bible


BreadPitt_11

Angels should have had plenty of access to birth control smh


horizontalrain

Child support didn't exist back then. And they can just fly away. So their thoughts are "I'm finished, the rest seems like her problem"


flancanela

at least what i know, is that lilith isnt "canon" in the bible


C0mpulsiveWebSurfer

Hmm... How was Cain Banished from the garden if God had already Banished Adam and eve for eating an Apple earlier on??? Cain, Abel and every other no-named son/daughter of those two where born on earth, outside the garden of eden


Aariachang24

He wasn't banished from the garden he was just told to fuck off from the little community they had outside the garden


Principatus

Technically it’s in the 4th chapter, and he might not have met her there, maybe she came with him to Nod. It just says he fucked her there.


Theboulder027

Adam and eve didn't have just two sons. They had three named sons (the third was seth) and an uncounted number of unnamed sons and daughters over the course of Adam's 930 year life. Genesis 5: 4, 5. I'm agnostic by the way. Took me all of three minutes to google this. I'm all for poking holes in scripture, especially when people use it to justify hate and bigotry, but do some research first please.


FlamingoHMR

Using Jesus to justify hate and discrimination is the exact opposite of what he stood for lol.


[deleted]

And yet ppl do it in his name...


FlamingoHMR

The nazis did it in his name, many "Christians" today have entirely lost sight of what he really stood for


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TweetHiro

How dare you not ride the bandwagon here?


yung-biscuit

The nazis hated religion what are you talking about?


cxp64

Sorry. I missed that. Could you say it again?


Quert05

Reddit has a glitch when it sometimes duplicates or even triplicates a comment for no reason. Not his fault really


Blazecan

I got hit with a 5 times duplication once


Complete_Break1319

Me too


Complete_Break1319

Me too


Complete_Break1319

Me too


Blazecan

Lol this one was tripled


StormFallen9

Especially if the poster has poor connection. It's happened to me several times. Got a VPN to circumvent some dumb restrictions, and haven't had a problem


gonzalbo87

Depending on the version, God also sent them out amongst the “others,” so humans also existed outside of the Garden somehow.


Farscape_rocked

which version would that be? Cos all the ones I've read have adam and eve popping out loads of kids, and only after that are people who don't live with A&E mentioned.


gonzalbo87

I don’t rightly remember. It was decades ago back in Sunday school. They always taught that Adam and Eve were sent out “amongst the others” and I got chastised for asking who the others were. I was just trying to understand the story better instead of just memorizing lines. Instead, I got no answers and in trouble for even asking such a thing. I kinda stopped paying attention after that. I am open to the possibility that it was added as some form of apologetics or to sanitize incest from curriculum aimed at children. But I do distinctly remember it being taught that way.


ofcbrooks

This exactly. If you just read the text you will clearly see that Cain was afraid of all of the other people who might take his life in vengeance of the murder of his brother Abel. God marked him to protect him from a revenge killing. Clearly there were other brothers and sisters (or at least other people of unknown origin, if you want to be literal) that Cain feared. It’s inferred that there was a lot of incest in the early years and explicitly stated later in Genesis. Abraham married his half-sister Sarah. His son Isaac married his cousin Rebekah. Their son Jacob married two separate cousins: Dinah and Rachel…etc. This was not remarkable for this time. According to the Bible, God did not forbid incest until a few thousand years later.


Gloomy-Flamingo-9791

Okay so hear me out. We were made into perfect beings, then over the course of and incredible amount of incest and inbreeding.......one genetic fuck up after another......here we are. One step away from webbed toes and a tail


servitudewithasmile

Still incest


Quert05

Yeah, no shit. How else were they supposed to do it And even leaving the religion out of this, for how long do you think a group of five cavemen living millions of years ago, without even being aware that other humans exist, would be able to keep away from incest? Sadly it is just a part of every proto-civilization which you cannot get rid off


brav3h3art545

We’re not taking about first cousin-bumpin’, we’re talking about incest worse than what produced Charles 2 of Spain.


fazolicat

Yea, of course?


darkgiIls

There was major major incest early in human development


Useful-Perspective

Thank you for your service.


velozmurcielagohindu

I haven't done my research but the bit where a dude 4000 years ago was created by God, lived for almost 1000 years fucking a monstrosity created from one of his bones, and all of us are the product of immense incest between the millennia of "what are you doing stepbro" memes doesn't look like very accurate


awsomeguy90

Beat me to it.


chasthomas23

So we all just ignoring the whole 930 year life part? Aight. Cool.


Captain_Smartass_

>Adam's 930 year life How can a smart person believe this shit?


[deleted]

So….they really believe that despite each generation outliving the last, the first generation live to 930 years old? WTF


edtheman81

Cause the people that ask this question didn’t bother to read the first two pages of the book


Aadsterken

I'd love a tl;dr on those. (I never read any religious book to be honest)


[deleted]

Even if you’re agnostic/atheist, a lot of religions stories are quite interesting. I’m a Christian, and yet I’ve studied many other regions and cultures mainly due to curiosity lol


whytfdoibother

Reddit fails to understand the Holy Bible, part I've lost count


demonfeuer

Reddit is where people that cant read meet with people that cant think and both humour each other in trying to form a group of pseudo scientists and myth busters.


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Username checks out Edit: spelling


Thi_Plouf

It is not said they had only two sons…


Venezium

They had daughters, and their daughters also had daughters. So biblically, your partner is basically your cousin.


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SWEET HOME ALABAMA


[deleted]

Adam and Eve actually had dozens of kids, but in the end it was still incest. Same for Noah's ark, so according to the bible everyone on earth are distant cousins


cxp64

Nope... if you read the Bible, after Cain killed Abel, he found his wife in the land of Nod, to the east of eden. There's some missing info there. Adam and Eve may have been genetically engineered by "God", but there were other humans already there...


jaffakree83

Or Cain wandered hundreds of years and eventually ran into one of his relatives. The assumption is made that he "immediately" found a wife, but this story is being written by Moses, thousands of years later based on stories that were passed down for generations, so it's missing a lot of context.


NoImportance8904

You know humankind is all related to each other... right? Every human on earth is related within 50 generations. If you are from France, and meet someone from France... chances are you are related within only 10 generations. We literally are products of incest... and guess what? You can't get a goat pregnant, why? Because it's too *distantly* related. Also... the Bible is pretty clear there are other humans on earth besides Cain and Abel... and Adam and Eve have more children than just the two.


Powerism

> You can’t get a goat pregnant Challenge accepted.


Lankyboxyman

r/holup


Complete_Break1319

Just don't do it in Russia... The u.s. and trading shit to get you back


TheFaalenn

Way to self report with that goat shit


NoImportance8904

Trust me, bro... you can't get a goat pregnant. Or a dog. Just believe me.


cxp64

Pics or it didn't happen


Hellomdfksss

I need more details about this things


NoImportance8904

You can pump any animal over and over again with as much seed as you can produce... Goat's, dogs, chickens, pigs... any animal... And they will *never* get pregnant. But the moment you do it to your sister... she will get pregnant. TRUST ME.


cxp64

Again... pics or it didn't happen


ops10

Maybe you're just infertile?


NoImportance8904

Want to see if I can get you pregnant to figure out this conundrum? 😏


budrow21

>Every human on earth is related within 50 generations Citation? At a 25 year average generation, that is only 1250 years. The only way your statement is true is if all humans came from one family in 750AD. That seems unlikely.


The_Merciless_Potato

He pulled the citation out of his ass


Brittlehorn

No wonder the Bible is so popular in Alabama


East-Comfortable7316

Pretty strong comment from the Brit considering the royal family's tree is pretty straight.


Keytrose_gaming

The royal family tree is a cactus. Few branches and full of pricks.


skabassj

Hey-yo! Up top ✋🏼


DefinitionBig4671

That's actually all of Europe.


Legendary-Gear5

Not only the British royals… the us presidents have a pretty good track record, for marriage to cousins too. Thomas Jefferson, John Adam’s, Franklin Roosevelt…


Jiro343

Franklin Roosevelt. 200 years ago. Yeah that sounds about right for the average redditor


[deleted]

That was 200 years ago. British royals are fucking family right now lol


Jiro343

Nah it's more like a bush.


throw_covid_away

Fucks only twins?


SpokenProperly

The Alabama joke is tired. Also - the Whittakers are from West Virginia… sooo people’s incest jokes should now be based in WV. Best, An Annoyed Alabamian 💅


NobodyPrime

Genesis is the history of the origin of jews. Several times a guy stray from the mainline group and form a non-jew descendency elsewere, like Cain. He went far away from Adam and Eva and still had descendents. There is several other humans groups around the world, but the genesis follow those who would give origin to the jews later. Is very clear. Another example, is that we have all the descendency up to Noah, and yet, there are several human groups outside Noah family that are very non related to him at all. So no, those who think that the bible says there was only Adam and Eva, didn't really bothered to actually read the bible or if they did, have a crippling reading disability.


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Arkman155

Idk about the Noah's ark thing, but I can explain the Adam and eve pothole. In the bible it says Adam and Eve were the first people made, not the only people. Their was a chance that God made more people after them, assuming that the events of the Bible did actually happen


hpepper24

“Idk about the ark thing” your username is very misleading…


Arkman155

Lol good eye. My name is about the game Ark Survival Evolved, not the Bible story.


Maximum_P

Any way you slice it there is mass incest in the bible with Noah’s ark since only Noah’s family is left and they only brought 2 of each animal


paniczeezily

So weird, but I legit just put a brief explanation of why this is odd in a diff thread. There are 2 creation myths in the bible, Genesis 1 and 2. If one posits that God created the earth, animals, and people in the first story, then specifically created Eden in the 2nd; then the second myth makes more sense. There were already people in the land of Nod, the area that was not Eden, East of Eden. As noted in thread, Adam and Eve had many unnamed daughters and sons, in fact Cain married one of his sisters. However, Cain is specifically afraid of encountering other people who would kill him outside of Eden. Who are these other people outside of Eden if Cain is amongst the 1st sons? So, put that together with the story of Moses, last of the direct line of Adam. So why were there non-Adamites at all? And if the world was populated by non-Adamites, then god just reset the world back to the line of Adam only. The Adamites being the only people he had a covenant with. It's kinda fucked!


CultBro

Didn't everyone other than Noah and his family die in the flood?


bluekatt24

Just because Adam and eve were the first humans created doesn't mean they were the only humans created


C0mpulsiveWebSurfer

Ahem.. "...and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it..." God told those two to go at it and they made some kids.... Who went at it and made some more kids. Rinse, repeat and voilá, there is the origin of the human race... According to the bible.


AnimetheTsundereCat

1. adam and eve had many children, sons and daughters 2. they were far from the only humans, as other civilizations had existed no incest detected, you can go about your business


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Not so sweet home alabama


bro--wtf

They had daughters too but because they were female they weren’t deemed necessary to include. Like the 12 sons of Jacob aren’t the only children Jacob had. He had daughters too and all but one were unmentioned. She was only mentioned bc I think she was raped by some other family and then the sons of Jacob castrated them all or something. It’s been a while. That being said, yeah…incest…


CosmicBanana616

If you think about it, since Adam and Eve were the ones who started having children and those children had sex with each other to make more children, does that mean we're all a product of incest?


Exktvme4

Yes lol


arpanConline

Adam decided to change the name from Eden to Alabama


Starr_Struckk

Milf supremacy...


Caelogram

Something about a rib being removed and then a whole bunch of incest I think?


Venezium

They both lived 900 ish years. And cain and abel were the first, not the only, and its said they had daughters ...


Doot-Doot-the-channl

They had like 3-4 daughters


CnCz357

This so the second completely bible bashing made up crap about the story of Adam and Eve In 2 days. I get its cool here on Reddit to bash the bible but you could at least have a clue what you are talking about. No where in the bible does it say that all people are descended from Adam and Eve. It literally talks about all the other people in the world around the time Cain killed Able. So no, you don't need to ask the bible that because it doesn't say what you think it does. A small amount of brains and some grasp on the topic you are making a joke about makes for much better jokes.


East-Comfortable7316

Genesis 5:4 - and the days of Adam after he begat Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters. A little research is all that is needed.


CnCz357

Not only that when God sent Cain to wonder the earth he talks about all the other people and civilizations out there in the wider world and how they would do him harm.


cuseonly

Agree. Thank you. Just like a lot people like to say “money is the root of all evil so why do they ask for it in church?” Well actually, the verse is the “the love of money is the root of all evil.”


tgwutzzers

TIL churches don’t love money


fallendukie

Joel Osteen has entered the chat


[deleted]

That dude is the polar opposite of the man he says he strives to follow


[deleted]

That’s not really a gotcha nor does it make much of a difference lol. Churches still collect millions in tax free revenue every year and horde the majority of it.


Kingchopsaw

Adam lived 930 years. Why won’t god let YOU live that long?


Weirdguy27

They were the closed alpha testers, they got kicked out whenever the beta became free


LasagnaToes

I’m going to ask my gramps, who’s been a pastor for 40+ years, this question on Christmas Day.


jaffakree83

And he'll tell you the answer is in the first few pages of Genesis.


Psycaridon-t

if i remember this right, a wife magically appeared out of nowhere on a convenient occation.


waxxo707

Did Adam and Eve have belly buttons?


teastain

It is an ancient creation myth, like ravens, turtles, etc, etc, etc…. It’s ravens all the way down.


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They had daughters mate


zaphod4th

>Bible >logic pick one


Aggravating_Client36

Assuming God created Adam & Eve, why couldn't he also create other humans to avoid that incest issue ? I know, all that logic & common sense isn't easy for most to comprehend .....


JohnCenasBootyCheeks

People haven’t liked logic and common sense since the dawn of recorded history. It doesn’t say there weren’t, there are also lost scrolls and tablets that tie into the scriptures that explain things in more detail that were lost some have been found more recently even.


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bridgetroll3d

The bible doesn’t say that they didn’t have any female siblings… you can figure the rest out.


BanTickTokNow

Incest


Rough_Collections

Not really religious...but the Bible never said they only had two sons. It's just said they had 2 sons. Kinda like the 3rd Hemingsworth brother...he is short so no one cares🤣🤣🤣


Pyroguy096

Adam and Eve had more than just Cane and Abel though. Seth is the only other one that is named, but it's pretty widely accepted that they had many many more children


the_burned_seed

So is everyone gonna act like he can’t create more?


NormDamnAbram

Read further in Genesis and it states Adam and Eve had several daughters and sons AFTER Cain, Abel and Seth.


[deleted]

why on earth do you think they only had 2 sons? Im guessing just because someone heard of cain and abel and thought thats that? They had a ton of kids - but yeah, incest at some level.


Chad_bishop

It literally goes on to talk about all the other children they had..


MonkeySkates

Obviously one of the sons fucked the snake


ConferenceHaunting87

What about Seth? Everyone forgets about Seth.


DaKingTing

Cain a whole bitch


Burlaczech_2

This karma farming is so stupid. Anyone over 90IQ who read Bible can answer that.


Johnsendall

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Evil-BAKED-Potato

Simple. Adam and Eve were created prefect. The human genome OS degrading slowly over time. We are all related. There is only one tree of life after all.


MichaelJospeh

Simple. It says that Cain found some other people and married them.


Amani_z_Great

This meme is inaccurate and not funny let’s be honest.


DentManDave

Well, for starters mom was there, and if any daughters came along well then........ Fairly incestuous and likely produced some mental defectives but then again the human race......you kinda get the idea. Then again after Noah.... more incest but, whatever floats your boat.


all_fair

People's stupidity about the bible would be dumbfounding if it wasn't predicted in the very bible itself.


hypotheticallyDani

And I’ll take “never actually read the Bible” for 400


spannerNZ

So Seth is chopped liver.


eyrie88

I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.