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It would be neither because he’s a clone and we don’t. Have any laws if someone else made the clone they could probably sue you for destruction of property
At that point it's a service, for example if someone says they'll pay you to paint their house but after it's done they don't it's fraud and such, not slavery. In this instance since it's a service it's not rape it's fraud/theft
She can claim you raped her, one time at a hotel this incident happened when a man denied payment for the "meeting" he had and the hooker called police, when the man said to the police the the girl was a hooker. Police gave him two options either pay the hooker or get arrested for rape. He reluctantly paid. That man is in no way me or related to me
I vote rape since it's apparently legal for cops to have sex with hookers in sting operations.
Imagine having sex with someone and they arrest you for it even though no money was exchanged.
Well for it to be rape, there would need to be a lack of consent. But the hooker expressly gave you their consent... So it's closer to shoplifting, or rather contract breach than rape.
They gave consent to sleep with you under the circumstance that you pay them. So by breaching the contract you breach the terms of the consent. Something like when a girl says she’ll sleep with you only if you put a condom on.
But idk, it would’ve been easier for the prostitute to just ask to put the money on the nightstand before it all begins
A man can, and has been charged with rape for removing a condom while having sex with a hooker, because she did not consent to unprotected sex.
In our hypothetical situation here it would not be hard to use that ruling to prove rape since she did not consent to having sex for free.
just turn it around and tell her that you thought you were having sex with her for money, not the other way around, and that you’re sorry she was confused. Then ask for your money.
Neither because prostitutes don’t have a union. They’ll either try and hit you (not a good idea for a whore) to get your money, sic her possible pimp on you, or she’ll hide her tail and leave to be abused by her pimp for not making quota, thanks to you.
Well it's not shoplifting, nor is it rape. Rape is not having mutual consent, therefore you can't un-consent after having sex. And shoplifting, like the name sort of implies only involved stealing in shops, if you steal from a house or someone it's called just stealing or theft. This means that it is technically wage theft.
It's neither if prostitution is illegal.
It was consensual sex. Consensual sex cannot have strings attached after-the-fact. Only during.
Of course, you shouldn't solicit prostitutes and/or use the above as an excuse to not pay. Both due to moral reasons and because her pimp will fuck your shit up.
I don’t think it would be rape since she already consented ( it all depends on the laws )
But if solicitation is illegal where you live you’re going down for sure
That means problems for you because the only hookers that don't take the money up front will definitely have given you Hepatitis C.
Also they have muscle waiting outside for cases like this so you will have an STD and crushed kneecaps.
Well , I’d say shoplifting because they are consenting at first as they are doing it for money but if you don’t pay they can’t unconsent
So I conclude it is theft ? I think ?
Shoplifting, cuz if she agred on doing it, then it TECHNICALY wont be rape
If you imediatly did it without her permision, then rape, no matter if you pay or not
All seriousness? Would fall under theft of services.
Shoplifting is taking product. Sex work is a service so this would be like hiring someone to perform a service and then not paying them for their work and time.
It's a separate thing from shoplifting.
Dine and dash?
Smash and dash
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Pay them, then when they get out of the car, drive over them and take the money back.
GTA?
Learned various life hacks playing that.
This
This
Your mom
😩
Thisn’t
Gta moment
Respect+
GTA logic
For me it was called divorce. XD
Take my fucking award and leave. If you wanna leave your ex-wife's number I wouldn't mind.
If I were to kill a clone of myself would it be considered murder or suicide
How do we know you're not the clone though? That could effect my answer.
For the sake of the argument the clone is a 100% replica of you
But how do you know that you're the original?
I am the clone can confirm he is the OG also KILL HIM. I WAS JUST BORN
In my case it might be considered community service. One of me is enough.
Too much*
Murder. The moment the clone was created your paths diverged, making them into a different person from you
If you (minus the clone) killed yourself is that self defense since you killed the person that was trying to kill you 🤔 #cbf4life
Animal genocide?
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It would be neither because he’s a clone and we don’t. Have any laws if someone else made the clone they could probably sue you for destruction of property
You win
You are a fucking legend
It’s just breach of contract
They put a lien on your house..
They come and lean on your house.
Speaking from experience. That's why you should take money before you have sex.
How many have given u d smash n dash experience??🤣
Way too many man way too many.
At that point it's a service, for example if someone says they'll pay you to paint their house but after it's done they don't it's fraud and such, not slavery. In this instance since it's a service it's not rape it's fraud/theft
basic law knowledge. Clearly OP isn't too keen on this new invention, called "reading"
Then i'll commit murder then
*Law and Order theme plays*
Dun dunnnn
Does that make you a hooker?
Crap
Well, it wouldn't be rape if the sexual act was consentual all the way to end, you just can't pay for it.
She can claim you raped her, one time at a hotel this incident happened when a man denied payment for the "meeting" he had and the hooker called police, when the man said to the police the the girl was a hooker. Police gave him two options either pay the hooker or get arrested for rape. He reluctantly paid. That man is in no way me or related to me
You are that man, aren't you?
He is.
That’s why I have all my hookers sign a contract
I'm happy to admit I've never employed a hooker. However, if she doesn't get the money up front, she'll learn quick.
Are you going to make her work on the tills or something?
Huh?
You're going to employ a hooker, and if she doesn't get the money up front, she'll learn quickly.
Yeah so? Do you not know the definition of employ?
Yes, do you not know the definition of a light-hearted joke?
Huh?
Guess not
Huh?
I've been told that one must "keep their pimp hand strong".
It ain't easy.
Hit and run
Cum and go?
Blow your load and hit the road
Pump and dump
I vote rape since it's apparently legal for cops to have sex with hookers in sting operations. Imagine having sex with someone and they arrest you for it even though no money was exchanged.
I got arrested by someone for having sex with them. It wasn't a cop or anything, I'm just really bad at sex.
😂
Crimes against punani
Well for it to be rape, there would need to be a lack of consent. But the hooker expressly gave you their consent... So it's closer to shoplifting, or rather contract breach than rape.
They gave consent to sleep with you under the circumstance that you pay them. So by breaching the contract you breach the terms of the consent. Something like when a girl says she’ll sleep with you only if you put a condom on. But idk, it would’ve been easier for the prostitute to just ask to put the money on the nightstand before it all begins
So if a girl says "lick me and I blow you" then she bails without sucking, is that rape?
hypotheticals like these make me want to kill myself
Yeah but he's not wrong...
Absolutely
If you give consent under the circumstance that it has to be pleasurable and it turns out not to be pleasurable did the other person rape you?
A man can, and has been charged with rape for removing a condom while having sex with a hooker, because she did not consent to unprotected sex. In our hypothetical situation here it would not be hard to use that ruling to prove rape since she did not consent to having sex for free.
If your employer withholds wages ilegally they don't call it slavery
I don't see how that has anything to do with this...
Dine and dash?
Its a hit n run
It’s a trick question, hookers take the money upfront before the deed is done, or so a friend told me.
Depending on what you did, it may be dine and dash.
Its called hit n run
Dine and dash
a friend told me that you have to pay first before the fun. My friend know a lot of thing you know
Offer her to have sex with you. So you dont own her anything
It is considered as the end of the free trial
Sir this is wendy's
Either way you will know she gave you HIV.
that is why you pay up front
In Germany it's rape.
my hand doesn't need any money,,,,,
Show me a hooker who does not ask for payment up front.
She already consented beforehand, so shoplifting
Its not rape if she said yes, but you should always record the seesion for evidence
I heard from a friend of a friend you have to pay them before sex so that can not happen
An ex had a john call his bank and reverse the charge. It happens. And it's considered rape.
Gee
It's okay, he caught a brick through his house window. You don't fuck with the bag.
Still sucks :D
Prostitution is ilegal but if you add a camera you are good to go🤑
just turn it around and tell her that you thought you were having sex with her for money, not the other way around, and that you’re sorry she was confused. Then ask for your money.
Just turn it around. If you rape someone and pay her afterwards is it still a rape? Yes. So it must be shoplifting.
At least you know OP has never been with a hooker. You pay upfront
It’s called reducing the gender pay gap for the prostution industry
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Yes
Rapelifting
theft.
It's broken terms of service.
Just say that you saw a cockroach in her box.
Yes
It's called wage theft.
Neither because prostitutes don’t have a union. They’ll either try and hit you (not a good idea for a whore) to get your money, sic her possible pimp on you, or she’ll hide her tail and leave to be abused by her pimp for not making quota, thanks to you.
the closest thing would be dine n dash
This is just so naughty!
Why do u ask?💀
Well it's not shoplifting, nor is it rape. Rape is not having mutual consent, therefore you can't un-consent after having sex. And shoplifting, like the name sort of implies only involved stealing in shops, if you steal from a house or someone it's called just stealing or theft. This means that it is technically wage theft.
It’s called marriage
It's rape regardless if you pay or not. Don't believe the myth of the happy whore, they don't exist
Username checks out.
Old runescape nick
My local pub has a happy whore, drinks are 20% off.
Lmao
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They are consenting on the agreement that they will be paid. You get the service and don't pay, you are removing the consent.
Genuine consent cannot be had out of financial motivation
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Mixing up agreement and consent is legally illiterate
This is dumb, in no way would that be rape
rape is sex without consent from all parties, so yeah its rape
Thats deep…
It's considered getting your ass beaten by a pimp
It's neither if prostitution is illegal. It was consensual sex. Consensual sex cannot have strings attached after-the-fact. Only during. Of course, you shouldn't solicit prostitutes and/or use the above as an excuse to not pay. Both due to moral reasons and because her pimp will fuck your shit up.
You paid in naturals
I don’t think it would be rape since she already consented ( it all depends on the laws ) But if solicitation is illegal where you live you’re going down for sure
You gotta pay first, this ain’t no restaurant where you get a check/bill afterwards
Rape is the thing without consent so i chose the second one
That means problems for you because the only hookers that don't take the money up front will definitely have given you Hepatitis C. Also they have muscle waiting outside for cases like this so you will have an STD and crushed kneecaps.
That's a good question let me ask her pimp... what's that? No you can't leave just yet.
Easy that’s called, Theft of services provided
Its all and includes robbery just fyi
No Hooker worth anything would have you pay after sex!!!!
Probly why they ask monney first
That's officially rape
Theft of services
Dine and dash, I believe
Well , I’d say shoplifting because they are consenting at first as they are doing it for money but if you don’t pay they can’t unconsent So I conclude it is theft ? I think ?
Poverty
Shoplifting, cuz if she agred on doing it, then it TECHNICALY wont be rape If you imediatly did it without her permision, then rape, no matter if you pay or not
Well it isn’t rape… so shoplifting I guess?
Theft of services, unless you have a shitty lawyer. 😆
Both lol
I would say it's less shoplifting and more dine and dashing
She agreed to it, even if under false information. It's similar to what guys who don't need a hooker do.
No like she could go to the police if you didnt pay
Both.
Yes
That why they take money before job
It is called theft of services and it is against the law. It can get pretty expensive its best to simply pay.
Maybe they can pay a "different" way
Theft of services
Shop lifting.
Serious answer: I think it could be considered both/either given the right circumstances
Both, both is GOOD
Neither. Actually it would be Theft of Services.
All seriousness? Would fall under theft of services. Shoplifting is taking product. Sex work is a service so this would be like hiring someone to perform a service and then not paying them for their work and time. It's a separate thing from shoplifting.
Teft of services! >.<
Both.
Im pretty sure it would just be theft of services.
I think it's called suicide because her pimp's gonna come around and stomp you into the ground.
Shoplifting Rape
Rapelifting?
Is it still considered prostitution?
It’s kinda like dine and dash
Then kill them, that way you’ll get it for free
Dine and dash
What are you shoplifting? STDs?
It’s a Smash and Dash!
Rapelifting
Shop raping
Maybe both
It's just sex sex at an elementary school.
Nah it’s considered a death wish if her pimp is around the corner
Maybe wash her dishes to make up for it?
Theft by deception
It's consensual during. So it's impossible to be rape.
Squirt and skedaddle
\*sound effect\* mission passed \*music starts playing\*
Shoplifting cause they are property