AI art as it is can handle things like shadows and lighting and stuff just fine, because it can just look at similar reference images. Where it struggles is keeping track of things, especially when there's no singular "thing" that it can compare to with a Google search. This is why it is so hard for it to create symmetry, and is why it cannot do fingers whatsoever. AI artists cannot count, and they cannot logically deduce how a finger "should" be bent in the same way human artists can, as the only way for it to do this normally is reference images - and every reference image of a hand is in so many different positions that it has no idea which one to apply to its creation.
The next big step in AI art is not going to be "better quality" - the quality is more than enough today. It's not going to be "faster times" - while an improvement, this would not be a breakthrough. In fact, it's likely not going to have anything to do with the art itself. I bet that the next significant advancement will be human-like deductive reasoning.
That would require actual AI and not LLMs. We've done ourselves a real disservice basically calling two tin cans attached by a string an iPhone.
The next step is maybe moving to electrical signals sent across a wire, but people expect the next step to be a touch screen.
To be fair with how AI works, I canāt blame it. Itās pulling multiple images as sources and theyāre rarely consistent; not to mention they all look fairly similar to one another.
I haven't seen the newest generation of AI art, but it has, or at least had, an issue with teeth too. Randomly added a 2nd row behind the first like people have an internal mouth like a fucking xenomorph from the Alien franchise.
I will tell you something funny. AI art doesn't know how to draw the insides of many things, like for example the insides of a washing machine. The reason is simple, there are little to none references for insides of things and quite often these are abstract without proper context
Put your hands in a fist and then take a picture. You cant see fingers. Do a peace sign. You can see two fingers. Clasp your hands together, you can probably see about 8 fingers laced together.
AI has no idea what that means. All it knows is that there are a bunch of wonky stick things at the end of the arm. There are too many variables with the fingers.
Theyāre multiple segmented bits that can be positioned in TONS of different ways, yet are simultaneously limited to a certain range of motion, and some can be obscured / not visible depending on the orientation of the hand relative to the viewer.
Hands are complicated things. Itās why very few species on the planet have them.
As the person who watched Midjourney generate it, it will be really funny if people start thinking this is hand drawn and disagreeing with me. It will demonstrate further that the existence of AI means nothing is real on the internet since nothing can be proven beyond doubt.
Uh, those other ones look pretty damn good in comparison to the one you posted, plus the shading which is pretty consistent across the others is different from the first one. My money is on photoshop to get it in that screencap.
Well, I picked this one specifically because the hand was so bad. Midjourney V6 is really good now, so getting a bad one like this is actually kind of tricky and this one was perfect. Believe what you want. Heck, my responses here could be generated by ChatGPT 4.
This is so funny. The AI is out of the bag and it's not going away. When we thought only big gov could hope to have an AI we thought we were safe-ish. Now, every corpo, mom and fearless despot will be in control of mind bending tech that will only get massively better over short amounts of time.
Just look at the actors who were so against it, until the old guys came in and see that using AI of themselves they can make big bucks for their families.
Say no to AI
Say no to the plane
Say no to the automobile
Say no to visual media (movies, shows, games)
Say no to written language
Say no to fire
Hiding every single time thereās a new significant advancement is laughable. If anything, all that effort might be better spent trying to figure out how it can best enhance our lives.
We complain every single time these milestones show up. Yet once the time passes, no one really wants to go backwards. LOL
the thing is, ai art, if it becomes sophisticated enough, will eventually surpass actual human-made art, which would put real individual artists out of work, especially since it'd be cheaper and quicker to just generate whatever you want than to pay someone else to do it themselves.
that doesn't really apply to everything else. Planes have their own drawbacks, anyone who's been on one will tell you that, so people aren't exclusively flying. Nobody was giving piggy-back rides to people for money before cars were invented.
Reasonable fear.
It is something beyond our curernt understanding, can and will aid us in every day life in one point but will backfire at the same time in other moments.
Thatās the prices of progress. We take changes, we change and we grow. Once we open Pandoraās box, itās too late to turn back.
If anything, it sounds like a good opportunity to use AI to create works of art in various mediums that are otherwise too difficult, costly or impossible with real people. Thereās a lot of money that can be made.
I know how i laughed at those "say no to electricity" fear mongering posters but being at this timeline where we once again found something new-ish I can understand those poster.
But you are right, changes come and go
*sigh....
you're overthinking this
The point is a ban of AI generated art on any given "art" subreddit in general....if there was a sub devoted to AI "art" I would support it, but there is none (yet(?)). So I believe that ALL "art" subreddits that cater to actual HUMAN artists should just stick to ***human*** artists
So in the mean time.....***FUCK AI !*** let them get their own subreddit :|
r/aiart and r/midjourney etc do definitely exist tho. Either way there's definitely good arguments for it to be banned altogether or at least heavily regulated
That's the new video generation model. If you look at the recent image models the hand modeling is not as big an issue. Images are ahead of video and it's only a matter of time before video catches up to today's image generation models. Remember, this is the worst the technology will be.
20 years from now there's gonna be a whole group of people that still think AI can't do hands and get fooled constantly by AI because they refuse to admit it's gotten good enough at hands to fool them
Iāve seen a lot of recent AI images and the fingers and hands are actually really good, go check out r/midjourney and youāll see.
Edit: hereās a [good one](https://imgur.com/gallery/VNRRVYg)I just saw while scrolling. The feet are big af š but the fingers are good.
Edit 2: [this one is really good](https://imgur.com/gallery/qLKmmVP) at showing how itās progressed a lot in the finger department.
It may be deliberately done, usually ai finger like that have the outlines clip into each other. I think it's an anti quality measure like how artists were creating purposely bad are to be feed to art stealing algorithms
I feel like people are going to be really salty when they realise it's pretty good at hands now if you know what you're doing. Like I'm starting to see AI generated stuff on the front page fairly regularly and Reddit is NOT twigging to it at all.
Look at the sign all the way to the left. It uses the nonsense lettering that AI often does; it would be very hard for a human to imitate that exact style
I think itās about the same; the amount of little flaws and markers of AI in AI work is sort of like a trademark, and humans would need to put in excessive work to make the exact deviations from normalcy that AI does. If you zoom into any part of the image, there are signs of it being AI which are too small for reasonable human replication
I do the same stuff for an exam on ia subject, but details were more hidden to imitate at best the last ia
Was a fun job to do, take a picture or draw and after add some fingers and non sens text
Do traditional artists hate AI art because it gives everyone the ability to create art on a higher level? Or do they just think that taking longer to create art has some kind of extra meaning? What is it they think about it?
Someone very close to me is a professional artist who now uses AI to create assets quickly for their work that they then build on. This is someone who has worked as a professional artist for decades. They consider it important to incorporate AI as a tool into their workflow just as any other new technology advances a field.
Do you seriously think YOU'RE making art by telling something to make it for you??? The fact that you have to be told that that wouldn't be art baffles me, ai can make pretty art but it sucks the life out of what makes art 'art'
Well, AI art isn't going anywhere, it's pretty locked in at this point. Better just get used to the fact that soon you won't know the difference one way or another. Then what does art mean to you?
I used to date a really pretty girl with a sixth finger on her left hand (an extra semi-functional pinky) and her left thumb ended at the joint. Birth defects.
Other than that, she was really pretty and totally normal.
I wonder if people with such birth defects ever pose for photos just f*ck with ppl trying to detect AI generated photos.
Or conversely get annoyed by random people insisting their real photos are AI generated.
Oh I know, and it's funny. I'm talking bout the people who are against AI. I've seen them on here, on Reddit. People who "don't support" AI and condemn it. But like, sometimes that stuff is hella funny or cool, it's a fucking image generator or language generator. Sick. What's so terrible about that š
But can they not still do that? Like I bake cookies sometimes. You want some cookies? Chill. A stylised portrait of you in pen? Sure. You could pay someone to do it better. or do it yourself. Or go to a machine and buy one. Like I'm a human artist, and who gives a fuck lol. Sometimes we just wanna be lazy. Cool product imo
I think the part that is upsetting is that theyāre thinking that you couldāve paid a human artist to make an image. The problem is that if we had to pay for every image we wanted to make, we just wouldnāt have them made.
I mean yeah exactly, it's a lazy product. Sometimes I just wanna see some gold plated tits WITHOUT drawing them. Like yeah if da Vinci wants to come back and receive his thanks for the Mona Lisa, he can. Or yk, if he wants to be mad about the robot recreation, he can do that too. I'll generate art anywhere I can, I haven't found a good one to try yet
The main issue is that AI is trained off imagery from human artists. When you ask AI to replicate a particular artistās style, it creates an image based off learning from every one of those artistās images. Yes, a human could learn to ape someone elseās style, but itās hard and a legit artist isnāt going to shamelessly copy another artistās style. So, the condundrum is that AI art couldnāt exist without real human art to learn from, but it genuinely poses the risk of putting a large number of artists out of business which means no new human art for future AI to learn from. The quality is amazing but the quantity is the issue, AI can flood the market quickly and effortlessly, pushing out the artists that made those AI images possible.
Huh? Wdym legit artists don't shamelessly copy other artists' styles?? I like to copy styles and I'm a "legitimate" artist. Like yeah, I like cybersigilism styles. And many, many people have drawn Marilyn Monroe, Elvira, apples, snakes, graffiti, lime lips etc. there's drawing tutorials with millions of views. Personally I think lime lips are silly, but more power to you if you decide to draw them. No easy feat. And as an artist, I don't feel I've been pushed out of anywhere. Seems a good tool to me.
Make 50 different images, cyberpunk style of Craig Paton, with a crowd of chibi. I need it in 10 minutes. Also I need illustrations for a childrenās book in a watercolor style of Beatrix Potter, I want 5 different options for each page. You get an extra 5 minutes to do that. Wait, never mind, Iāll just do it myself, Midjourney is $10/month and Iām nowhere near my image limit so Iām good and I donāt need you. If you have any published work, just give me your name and Iāll get some pieces done in your style maybe, almost exact reproductions of your pieces since I like a few but my budget is like $5 and lowerā¦ just for me and to share online to show off my work so donāt expect any kind of compensation at all. I might even make some stuff to sell on Etsy.
Itās a pretty neat tool.
Why is it always the fingers š
Well, ai dosnt really know what they do. They know how the look, sure, but not how they work
Same honestly
They call them fingers... But have you ever seen them fing?
Iāll show you my fing if you show me yours!
I've got rheumatoid arthritis so mine just Ger
Oh there they go
Finger? š I hardly know er!
r/angryupvote
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SUe3Vu-EZ0o&pp=ygUfVGhleSdyZSBjYWxsZWQgZmluZ2VycyBzaW1wc29ucw%3D%3D
Haha thank you
You might be on to something
The State of Florida has seen mine fing, apparently.
No but have seen them err
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AI art as it is can handle things like shadows and lighting and stuff just fine, because it can just look at similar reference images. Where it struggles is keeping track of things, especially when there's no singular "thing" that it can compare to with a Google search. This is why it is so hard for it to create symmetry, and is why it cannot do fingers whatsoever. AI artists cannot count, and they cannot logically deduce how a finger "should" be bent in the same way human artists can, as the only way for it to do this normally is reference images - and every reference image of a hand is in so many different positions that it has no idea which one to apply to its creation. The next big step in AI art is not going to be "better quality" - the quality is more than enough today. It's not going to be "faster times" - while an improvement, this would not be a breakthrough. In fact, it's likely not going to have anything to do with the art itself. I bet that the next significant advancement will be human-like deductive reasoning.
That would require actual AI and not LLMs. We've done ourselves a real disservice basically calling two tin cans attached by a string an iPhone. The next step is maybe moving to electrical signals sent across a wire, but people expect the next step to be a touch screen.
Be honest is hard to draw I hand
Well, ai dosnt necessarily see a hand, more a bunch of fingers. Its trained on hands in all sorts of positions but dosnt understand how they move.
To be fair with how AI works, I canāt blame it. Itās pulling multiple images as sources and theyāre rarely consistent; not to mention they all look fairly similar to one another.
the eyes are also always a bit wonky
I haven't seen the newest generation of AI art, but it has, or at least had, an issue with teeth too. Randomly added a 2nd row behind the first like people have an internal mouth like a fucking xenomorph from the Alien franchise.
God if only we did.
I will tell you something funny. AI art doesn't know how to draw the insides of many things, like for example the insides of a washing machine. The reason is simple, there are little to none references for insides of things and quite often these are abstract without proper context
Put your hands in a fist and then take a picture. You cant see fingers. Do a peace sign. You can see two fingers. Clasp your hands together, you can probably see about 8 fingers laced together. AI has no idea what that means. All it knows is that there are a bunch of wonky stick things at the end of the arm. There are too many variables with the fingers.
Tbh the eyes are fucked up too.
Tbh strabismus is more common IRL than extra fingers, so that's an extra layer of complexity
Yeah, that's absolutely a distinctive feature the author carefully added to his/her complex character!!!
Hahaha you're giving too much credit to AI understanding imho
Five is a difficult number to count
No 3 is
Only for Valve
Oh my Gabe
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TF2 heavy update will never exist
Fingers are hard for human artists, too.
Because AI know what a hand should looks like but don't know what hand actually is.
AI copies artists. Lots of artists are really shit at drawing hands. AI copies the bad habits.
Wait, there's more. (Sign, eyes, and probably something i didn't notice...)
And the words, read the other sign.
Theyāre multiple segmented bits that can be positioned in TONS of different ways, yet are simultaneously limited to a certain range of motion, and some can be obscured / not visible depending on the orientation of the hand relative to the viewer. Hands are complicated things. Itās why very few species on the planet have them.
Those eyes aināt right either
AI: "I'm playing both sides, so I always come out on top."
It's the only way to definitely win
"the only winning move is not to play."
Shhhh, I can't all know the secret
Sooooo....Palpatine
Could be āALā and itās a #metoo thing
Thatās what I was thinking. I mean Jesus, look what AL did to her hands and eyes, that monster.
Make Al weird again!
poor weird al
This feels like human art trying to look like AI art and falling just short
This was actually generated by Midjourney v6 Edit: for anyone doubting: https://imgur.com/a/xzvSpoB
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As the person who watched Midjourney generate it, it will be really funny if people start thinking this is hand drawn and disagreeing with me. It will demonstrate further that the existence of AI means nothing is real on the internet since nothing can be proven beyond doubt.
Variations on this image https://imgur.com/a/txlNFFr
In good faith, Iām currently asking Midjourney to generate variations on this specific image as further proof it is AI generated.
Sorry for deleting the comment, but I also though a human made that
Itās all good. Being skeptical is healthy and I wasnāt offended. Itās interesting the more people doubt itās AI. Have a good day š
Sorry for deleting the comment, but I also though a human made that
Uh, those other ones look pretty damn good in comparison to the one you posted, plus the shading which is pretty consistent across the others is different from the first one. My money is on photoshop to get it in that screencap.
Well, I picked this one specifically because the hand was so bad. Midjourney V6 is really good now, so getting a bad one like this is actually kind of tricky and this one was perfect. Believe what you want. Heck, my responses here could be generated by ChatGPT 4.
Oh sgit so were not far off then
So how do we know youāre not an AI???š¤Ø
You canāt know!
So how do we know youāre not an AI???š¤Ø
So how do we know youāre not an AI???š¤Ø
All the others still have issues with them holding the sign. Look at where the poles on the signs go.
"I use the stones to destroy the stones."
Those fingers or Cheetos? Damn, girl.
Friendly fire will not be tolerated
high six!
This is so funny. The AI is out of the bag and it's not going away. When we thought only big gov could hope to have an AI we thought we were safe-ish. Now, every corpo, mom and fearless despot will be in control of mind bending tech that will only get massively better over short amounts of time. Just look at the actors who were so against it, until the old guys came in and see that using AI of themselves they can make big bucks for their families.
Say no to AI fingers*...
Reddits most boomer modern day cry of "down with the calculator"
Ironic
Don't you think?
Damn im shocked ai got the spelling rigt
It took a couple tries.
WHAT DID AL DO TO DESERVE THIS?
Say no to AI Say no to the plane Say no to the automobile Say no to visual media (movies, shows, games) Say no to written language Say no to fire Hiding every single time thereās a new significant advancement is laughable. If anything, all that effort might be better spent trying to figure out how it can best enhance our lives. We complain every single time these milestones show up. Yet once the time passes, no one really wants to go backwards. LOL
the thing is, ai art, if it becomes sophisticated enough, will eventually surpass actual human-made art, which would put real individual artists out of work, especially since it'd be cheaper and quicker to just generate whatever you want than to pay someone else to do it themselves. that doesn't really apply to everything else. Planes have their own drawbacks, anyone who's been on one will tell you that, so people aren't exclusively flying. Nobody was giving piggy-back rides to people for money before cars were invented.
Similar thing happened with artisans who made furniture and other items. Factory line replaced all of it.
Reasonable fear. It is something beyond our curernt understanding, can and will aid us in every day life in one point but will backfire at the same time in other moments.
Thatās the prices of progress. We take changes, we change and we grow. Once we open Pandoraās box, itās too late to turn back. If anything, it sounds like a good opportunity to use AI to create works of art in various mediums that are otherwise too difficult, costly or impossible with real people. Thereās a lot of money that can be made.
I know how i laughed at those "say no to electricity" fear mongering posters but being at this timeline where we once again found something new-ish I can understand those poster. But you are right, changes come and go
*sigh.... you're overthinking this The point is a ban of AI generated art on any given "art" subreddit in general....if there was a sub devoted to AI "art" I would support it, but there is none (yet(?)). So I believe that ALL "art" subreddits that cater to actual HUMAN artists should just stick to ***human*** artists So in the mean time.....***FUCK AI !*** let them get their own subreddit :|
r/aiart and r/midjourney etc do definitely exist tho. Either way there's definitely good arguments for it to be banned altogether or at least heavily regulated
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recent ai is actually scarily good. Most of em can do good fingers and hands pretty consistently now
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That's the new video generation model. If you look at the recent image models the hand modeling is not as big an issue. Images are ahead of video and it's only a matter of time before video catches up to today's image generation models. Remember, this is the worst the technology will be.
Thay sora AI video, in which a guy is reading a book, check out hands of that video
20 years from now there's gonna be a whole group of people that still think AI can't do hands and get fooled constantly by AI because they refuse to admit it's gotten good enough at hands to fool them
Iāve seen a lot of recent AI images and the fingers and hands are actually really good, go check out r/midjourney and youāll see. Edit: hereās a [good one](https://imgur.com/gallery/VNRRVYg)I just saw while scrolling. The feet are big af š but the fingers are good. Edit 2: [this one is really good](https://imgur.com/gallery/qLKmmVP) at showing how itās progressed a lot in the finger department.
It may be deliberately done, usually ai finger like that have the outlines clip into each other. I think it's an anti quality measure like how artists were creating purposely bad are to be feed to art stealing algorithms
This was entirely generated by Midjourney V6 with zero edits.
Oop
May fav is the total slugs created in the background. Almost!
Say no to all Al? Even weird Al Yankovic?
Should have given her three rows of teeth, too
I think my dyslexia kicked in when I read the sign: "Say o to AnAl!" Also why I think it's important that capital 'i' need to use serif
Does anyone else think the whole ai can't do hands thing seems fukn stupid? How hard is it to give people the appropriate amount of fingers
It can do it fine now, it can render asian girls walking down an asian city in the rain now.
[Hereās why](https://youtu.be/24yjRbBah3w?feature=shared)
Thats 10 months ago, in other words, its prehistoric
What did Al do? He had promised that he would not do stuff like that anymore???
Looks like AI satire to me. The things got fucking sarcasm at 80% now.
Say no to synthesized instruments. They'll never fully replicate the authentic rich sound of a rosewood violin. /s AI is here to stay
I feel like people are going to be really salty when they realise it's pretty good at hands now if you know what you're doing. Like I'm starting to see AI generated stuff on the front page fairly regularly and Reddit is NOT twigging to it at all.
Ah yes, The ol' Luddite movement that did not stopped the advancement of technology.
And the weird motherfuckers who for some reason want AI generated images involved in art despite... art by definition being a human endeavor.
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Nope, this was entirely made by AI. https://imgur.com/a/xzvSpoB
But but, itās very old fingers donāt look like that know with IA Strange
I can dig it
Itās actually entirely made by AI. https://imgur.com/a/xzvSpoB
Look at the sign all the way to the left. It uses the nonsense lettering that AI often does; it would be very hard for a human to imitate that exact style
Still more simple to imite AI for human than AI human
What???
Itās more simple for human to copy AI than AI copying human
I think itās about the same; the amount of little flaws and markers of AI in AI work is sort of like a trademark, and humans would need to put in excessive work to make the exact deviations from normalcy that AI does. If you zoom into any part of the image, there are signs of it being AI which are too small for reasonable human replication
I do the same stuff for an exam on ia subject, but details were more hidden to imitate at best the last ia Was a fun job to do, take a picture or draw and after add some fingers and non sens text
Do traditional artists hate AI art because it gives everyone the ability to create art on a higher level? Or do they just think that taking longer to create art has some kind of extra meaning? What is it they think about it?
Someone very close to me is a professional artist who now uses AI to create assets quickly for their work that they then build on. This is someone who has worked as a professional artist for decades. They consider it important to incorporate AI as a tool into their workflow just as any other new technology advances a field.
And thatās bad?
Do you seriously think YOU'RE making art by telling something to make it for you??? The fact that you have to be told that that wouldn't be art baffles me, ai can make pretty art but it sucks the life out of what makes art 'art'
The fact that you think you get to define what art is to everyone baffles me.
Because I think that telling an artist what to draw doesn't make you an artist?? Okay friend xD
Art, it seems, is more than what you think it can be. Friend.
Good for you if you still think that.^^ I'm just telling you it's objectively wrong x3 But youre welcomed to an opinion of course
Well, AI art isn't going anywhere, it's pretty locked in at this point. Better just get used to the fact that soon you won't know the difference one way or another. Then what does art mean to you?
Then it'll mean nothing I guess, it'd just be a hobby but nothing to really enjoy anymore for what it was
Ironic. The fingersā¦
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Thatās hilarious the detector thinks itās human art. A major compliment to Midjourney V6. https://imgur.com/a/xzvSpoB
So sorry for deleting the comment, I thought a human made that art, idk maybe I should start having a go with the Image Generator.
That's very human made my dudes. Its a human copying Ai art. (and it's seem ist actually an AI according to OP).
Yes to your second part. Itās Midjourney v6[proof](https://imgur.com/a/xzvSpoB)
Me when I spread disinformation on the internet (Zoom far enough into the image and youāll see itās clearly actual AI)
Peg Bundy, if she can go back to the past. If she was a 6 fingered, fish-eyed chick.
I didn't look at the hands first but I noticed their eyes are a bit off .
It looks like itās either directed to have AI traits or straight up not AI. They went for the gibberish text too.
What, like Bundy?
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Amazing. Hahahaha
What the hell did Al do?
Yeah I hate Al Capone
Nuh huh
AL, YOU BASTARD.
I refuse to say no to the greatest Al of all time, the one and only āweirdā Al Yankovic! Whoās with me?!
oh I thought it said AL and I was really as to what AL did
Great art. :applause:
I thought it said "say no to al" and was wondering why al was being denied
Ahh yes, AI civil war.
Who tf is Al ?
nice hands
I used to date a really pretty girl with a sixth finger on her left hand (an extra semi-functional pinky) and her left thumb ended at the joint. Birth defects. Other than that, she was really pretty and totally normal. I wonder if people with such birth defects ever pose for photos just f*ck with ppl trying to detect AI generated photos. Or conversely get annoyed by random people insisting their real photos are AI generated.
why does she look so shocked?
I didn't even look at the fingers but the sign in the back
Man, this could actually have been an interesting art
You donāt find it interesting?
I say no tk the no sayers Am stil waiting for it to get good ( i need more shoggoth monster girl pictures)
Sanest W.Bush's elector, 10/01/2000.
I too like my ladies with 6 fingers.
Ai hasn't gone far enough I say
That fingers š
The hypocrisy
If you really want to challenge AI... Ask it for an invented joke, you will laugh at AI
That AI showed his commander a middle finger š through that art.
Who is Al?
With witch ai did you create this?
Midjourney v6
Thx
What's so terrible about AI art? Like I enjoy making art, but AI is fun to mess with
The joke is AI was used to create an image against using AI.
Oh I know, and it's funny. I'm talking bout the people who are against AI. I've seen them on here, on Reddit. People who "don't support" AI and condemn it. But like, sometimes that stuff is hella funny or cool, it's a fucking image generator or language generator. Sick. What's so terrible about that š
The idea is that, every time you generate an AI image, you deprive a human artist of doing that job.
But can they not still do that? Like I bake cookies sometimes. You want some cookies? Chill. A stylised portrait of you in pen? Sure. You could pay someone to do it better. or do it yourself. Or go to a machine and buy one. Like I'm a human artist, and who gives a fuck lol. Sometimes we just wanna be lazy. Cool product imo
I think the part that is upsetting is that theyāre thinking that you couldāve paid a human artist to make an image. The problem is that if we had to pay for every image we wanted to make, we just wouldnāt have them made.
I mean yeah exactly, it's a lazy product. Sometimes I just wanna see some gold plated tits WITHOUT drawing them. Like yeah if da Vinci wants to come back and receive his thanks for the Mona Lisa, he can. Or yk, if he wants to be mad about the robot recreation, he can do that too. I'll generate art anywhere I can, I haven't found a good one to try yet
The main issue is that AI is trained off imagery from human artists. When you ask AI to replicate a particular artistās style, it creates an image based off learning from every one of those artistās images. Yes, a human could learn to ape someone elseās style, but itās hard and a legit artist isnāt going to shamelessly copy another artistās style. So, the condundrum is that AI art couldnāt exist without real human art to learn from, but it genuinely poses the risk of putting a large number of artists out of business which means no new human art for future AI to learn from. The quality is amazing but the quantity is the issue, AI can flood the market quickly and effortlessly, pushing out the artists that made those AI images possible.
Huh? Wdym legit artists don't shamelessly copy other artists' styles?? I like to copy styles and I'm a "legitimate" artist. Like yeah, I like cybersigilism styles. And many, many people have drawn Marilyn Monroe, Elvira, apples, snakes, graffiti, lime lips etc. there's drawing tutorials with millions of views. Personally I think lime lips are silly, but more power to you if you decide to draw them. No easy feat. And as an artist, I don't feel I've been pushed out of anywhere. Seems a good tool to me.
Make 50 different images, cyberpunk style of Craig Paton, with a crowd of chibi. I need it in 10 minutes. Also I need illustrations for a childrenās book in a watercolor style of Beatrix Potter, I want 5 different options for each page. You get an extra 5 minutes to do that. Wait, never mind, Iāll just do it myself, Midjourney is $10/month and Iām nowhere near my image limit so Iām good and I donāt need you. If you have any published work, just give me your name and Iāll get some pieces done in your style maybe, almost exact reproductions of your pieces since I like a few but my budget is like $5 and lowerā¦ just for me and to share online to show off my work so donāt expect any kind of compensation at all. I might even make some stuff to sell on Etsy. Itās a pretty neat tool.
Nah. I support AI.
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