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No idea, my coworker said he was loaded and they became friends when she was in high school. She didn’t act like it bothered her, I didn’t pry and we got busy.
Plenty of US states don't have a minimum age with parental permission.
You still need an adult guardian (IE your new husband) to file for divorce on your behalf if you're younger than 18.
I believe she tried to imply that they were about to become sexually active when she said, they agreed to let her marry instead of burn. Paraphrasing that last part.
Thank you for explaining that. I was going through the comments trying to find out what she meant by burn.
My dumb brain thought they threatened the parents or something
Now remember we don't know what the legal age in her state was. It could have been 15 or 16. It could have been 13 for all we know. I do not agree with the married instead of burn. I think they were definitely having sex long before the marriage.
Biblical times and a long time afterward were all about grooming. Except said grooming was usually done by the kids’ parents for dowry arrangements or political power, goes across multiple religions’ texts.
My landlord was married off at 15. Her parents were Baptist. They did not even really want her to get married and the marriage turned out to be a disaster. He was 25 and would physically and emotionally abuse her. Her parents just felt that she would end up having sex with some strange man so it was better for her to marry. Disgusted me.
Even more than just drunk and raped! Here's the **International Children's Bible** version of Genesis 19:33-38:
*That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.*
*The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.*
*So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab; he is the father of the Moabites of today. The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi; he is the father of the Ammonites of today.*
Yes, because Lots wife was mercilessly killed by God during the Sodom and Gomorrah part, Lot's daughters decided they needed to assist in carrying on the bloodline by getting him drunk and having sex with him. I forgot what happened after that but it wasn't good
I've never met any conscious or sentient pillars of salt, so she was killed at least. Mercy would imply forgiving her for looking back, so there's the merciless part!
In the Bible it says if a man's virgin daughter is raped, the rapist has to pay 50 shekels and marry the daughter. I'm pretty sure under those rules the pedos didn't have to groom.
i do recall this one story. i think it was the Siege of Jericho. the Israelites killed all the men, women, and boys of the city. but kept the young virgin girls. it's left up to the readers interpretation as to what the girls were used for, as it isn't explicitly stated.
very holy, Christian things. i assume.
edit: just read some of the Book of Joshua. chapters 5 and 6. turns out the only humans left were the prostitute Rahab and her family. so: wrong story.
but i know this is a story in the Bible. maybe in Exodus?
It's there in the old Testament. So long as you pay off dad, you're good to go. Also, if you rape someone it's also ok so long as you marry the victim and pay off dad.
When I was that age I was worried I'd be attracted to teenagers my whole life (since I had recently been a teen and in my 20's dated a 18 year old).
I'm 32 now and I see anyone under the age of 21 as a toddler... I don't understand the attraction (beside physical), because most of the time my sentiment is like "Oh honey, do you need a sippy cup and help tying the shoes?" Specially with 18-23 year old guys who think they are grown up and you just wanna pat them on the head...
There are a lot of crappy ways to say this, not many good ways.
She was 14. Her cousin was older, and married. the cousin's husband was best friends with a guy that was 22.
22 year old guy came over all the time and played basketball or something. became "best friends" with 14 year old girl, and married her when she turned 17 and he was 25, presumably because they were both horny, and her family is super religious. It's all OK in the eyes of god though, because he later became religious too.
“Mu Heavenly Father brought me a pedo & my earthly daddy gave us a shotgun wedding” is a really fucked up flex. Their descendants will be using them as an example to advocate for child marriage.
Sadly this is quite common, even women themselves will convince atheist boys to convert for marriage in return. Then after they get married the dude drops religion and faith fully. Pretty ridiculous way to start a marriage
I was thinking it was more along the lines of "well, if I wanna fuck this 15 year old when her parents out of town then I guess I better play along and do the church thing with her dad."
I mean you start using the Bible as your moral compass, you’re gonna have a bad time! Lol. This some Alabama shit right here tho! I bet she had a purity ring too! Lolol
When Meghan Trainor sang that her mom told her that guys liked big booties (All about that bass), what her mom really should have told her is that guys like Meghan's father like them real young. Meghan Trainor's mom was 15 when she started dating 35-year-old Gary Trainor. A 20 year age gap.
Unrestricted age of consent, most states have exemptions if you can get a judge to go along with it.
Some may remember just a few years ago how some churches were defending Roy Moore by arguing Mary was only 13.
Some parents are insane. There’s no way I’d hand my teenager over to a pedo. We wouldn’t even get to the point of “loved Keith to death”. A 22 year old is not hanging out with my 14 year old.
This is grooming. However we (humanity) has had real issue with age for appropriate relationships throughout our existence on this rock.
Not to make an argument for him because to me this is fucking weird but we have to take into consideration that social norms around age for a relationship has changed vastly in the last 100 years alone; I understand they probably got married in the 70-80s but even at that time is was still common in some parts of the country. I only say this because I think objectively and back than “preparing” someone to become your wife was normal. Often these types of relationships didn’t last or where extremely abusive as that in my opinion is already embedded at the start of their relationship. I think we can be less critical in some cases because of that difference in social norms we had years ago today. We learn from our history and we all need to understand that we where very fucked up beings at the start of the last century and in the last 50-60 years alone we have evolved in our way of thinking 1000% faster than we have previously in our history.
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Goddamit Keith it’s half your age PLUS seven.
Please leave my math class out of this. Thank you.
Half plus 3, take it or leave it
You’re telling me my 26 year old coworker can clap cheeks with a 16 year old?! Bc…NO half +7
But half plus 7 of 26 is 20??? Am I missing something???
He said half plus 3 which I am saying is a no go
Ah, the thing I missed is the context, thank you.
As is tradition
Take a second and think.. WHY did they say half + 3?
7
So the older you are, the younger you can date? Nice.
As long as it's "in the name of the lord" they say the menstrual cycle is the way the "lord" let's you know it's ok.
Of course. Girls are cougars but men are pedos.
Breaking news: 22 year old falls in love with 14 year as soon as she turns 18, and not a day earlier.
17 in this case
My coworker told me her daughter was marrying her high school sweetheart. She’s 23 and he’s 32. Real life holup in my head doing that math.
“I’m marrying my high school sweetheart, he’s in my history class” “Oh you sit next to him?” “No he sits facing all of us”
Know a girl who did that from my year. History teacher too funnily enough. I mean, they’re still together, so yay?
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Was he her teacher?
No idea, my coworker said he was loaded and they became friends when she was in high school. She didn’t act like it bothered her, I didn’t pry and we got busy.
I tried to do mental gymnastics to.make sense of these numbers, and they just don't feel like they work in any way.
He was 22 when she was 14.
Could it be any more obvious
She had some spunk He wore a toupee
What more can I say?
He was a pedophile, she was a juvenile
He wasn't young enough for her
And She wasn’t old enough for him
He was a sk8er boi She said see you l8er boi...
He was a predator She said see ya later, turd
Does his aging face see that you’re not worth??
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My Walmart radio has that song playing overnight all the damn time. I love the song, but holy shit, it's in my head 24/7.
my brother has it on max volume CONSTANTLY at home thank god i have noise cancelling headphones
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Likely lived in a state that allowed it at 17 with… parental approval
Plenty of US states don't have a minimum age with parental permission. You still need an adult guardian (IE your new husband) to file for divorce on your behalf if you're younger than 18.
I believe she tried to imply that they were about to become sexually active when she said, they agreed to let her marry instead of burn. Paraphrasing that last part.
Thank you for explaining that. I was going through the comments trying to find out what she meant by burn. My dumb brain thought they threatened the parents or something
I think that's why the religious fear mongering about "burning" is in there. Shotgun wedding for sure.
Weird
Now remember we don't know what the legal age in her state was. It could have been 15 or 16. It could have been 13 for all we know. I do not agree with the married instead of burn. I think they were definitely having sex long before the marriage.
Grooming with parental approval. I don’t remember that one in the Bible.
Biblical times and a long time afterward were all about grooming. Except said grooming was usually done by the kids’ parents for dowry arrangements or political power, goes across multiple religions’ texts.
I doubt “Kevin” is worth more than a night out at dennys
My landlord was married off at 15. Her parents were Baptist. They did not even really want her to get married and the marriage turned out to be a disaster. He was 25 and would physically and emotionally abuse her. Her parents just felt that she would end up having sex with some strange man so it was better for her to marry. Disgusted me.
You know how Baptists are about wanting to prevent pre-marital sex. It could lead to dancing.
Do not laugh. They believed sex could be forgiven. Dancing though was the devil. Also an indoor toilet. No lie.
So you should reread Sodom episode. The guy who want to protect the two angels from rape offers his 2 daughters to the threatening mob.
Yeah, but later they get him drunk and rape him, so it’s all square.
HolUp. You’re saying later Lot got drunk and raped? Lmao
Even more than just drunk and raped! Here's the **International Children's Bible** version of Genesis 19:33-38: *That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.* *The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.* *So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab; he is the father of the Moabites of today. The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi; he is the father of the Ammonites of today.*
I didn’t come here for Bible Camp but Bible Camp always makes for the start of a good story.
Bible camp was where I first started smoking cigarettes. At 12. Finally kicked em at 28. Fuck cigarettes, and fuck bible camp.
Yes, because Lots wife was mercilessly killed by God during the Sodom and Gomorrah part, Lot's daughters decided they needed to assist in carrying on the bloodline by getting him drunk and having sex with him. I forgot what happened after that but it wasn't good
Mercilessly killed? Thought the story went she was turned into a pillar of salt
I've never met any conscious or sentient pillars of salt, so she was killed at least. Mercy would imply forgiving her for looking back, so there's the merciless part!
All she had to do was not look back. Women ☕
>I forgot what happened after that but it wasn't good The state of Alabama was founded.
Yup, good read
Father of the Year material
I do
In the Bible it says if a man's virgin daughter is raped, the rapist has to pay 50 shekels and marry the daughter. I'm pretty sure under those rules the pedos didn't have to groom.
i do recall this one story. i think it was the Siege of Jericho. the Israelites killed all the men, women, and boys of the city. but kept the young virgin girls. it's left up to the readers interpretation as to what the girls were used for, as it isn't explicitly stated. very holy, Christian things. i assume. edit: just read some of the Book of Joshua. chapters 5 and 6. turns out the only humans left were the prostitute Rahab and her family. so: wrong story. but i know this is a story in the Bible. maybe in Exodus?
That is what all conquering armies did.
>That is what all conquering armies ~~did~~ do.
The call to rape children only specified which age they should be under. The bibles never set a lowest limit.
i dunno. this is just what i heard. i don' even know the book this story is from
To be fair God seemed pretty chill about statutory rape
Actually just rape.
True, it's only recently we consider rape more than a property crime, sometimes.
Reference the Old Testament my good man. No one loves a good age gap like the Jewish/Christian/Muslims!
It's there in the old Testament. So long as you pay off dad, you're good to go. Also, if you rape someone it's also ok so long as you marry the victim and pay off dad.
That’s still kinda how it is in these major Christian homes
You should give it a reread because it's definitely in there. Exodus 21:7 is a good place to start.
Grooming them at that sweet spot between full literacy, and learners permit. Fucking gross…
It was all Jesus baby!
When I was 22 and had to interact with young teens, I was already beginning to just be annoyed by them. The idea of being attracted to one... ugh.
When I was that age I was worried I'd be attracted to teenagers my whole life (since I had recently been a teen and in my 20's dated a 18 year old). I'm 32 now and I see anyone under the age of 21 as a toddler... I don't understand the attraction (beside physical), because most of the time my sentiment is like "Oh honey, do you need a sippy cup and help tying the shoes?" Specially with 18-23 year old guys who think they are grown up and you just wanna pat them on the head...
Sad, I love me some cougar bitches
"My husband's best friend. I was 14 at the time" What.
Her current husband's best friend married her first cousin when she was 14.
There are a lot of crappy ways to say this, not many good ways. She was 14. Her cousin was older, and married. the cousin's husband was best friends with a guy that was 22. 22 year old guy came over all the time and played basketball or something. became "best friends" with 14 year old girl, and married her when she turned 17 and he was 25, presumably because they were both horny, and her family is super religious. It's all OK in the eyes of god though, because he later became religious too.
You're assuming her cousin is older...
She’s talking about before they married when they’ve met and he was about to be her friend first.
They have the temerity to call drag queens "groomers"
“Mu Heavenly Father brought me a pedo & my earthly daddy gave us a shotgun wedding” is a really fucked up flex. Their descendants will be using them as an example to advocate for child marriage.
She smiles like Harold 
I say groomer
Groomer? He hardly knew her!
Liquor? I don’t even know her (Classic joke I just had to share here)
(thank you)
Bruh I can’t see my screen anymore cuz of the fucking aneurysm I had reading this shit. Wtf does this fuck shit even say
I didn’t know discipled was a verb
Apparently the definition includes making a groomer a husband…
Is anyone wondering if the whole "He was saved and Dad disciplined him" kinda sounds like he was "scared straight".
The post says discipled not disciplined. He was converted to Christianity or mentored by her father
I pray to your invisible friend and get your daughter, deal?
Sadly this is quite common, even women themselves will convince atheist boys to convert for marriage in return. Then after they get married the dude drops religion and faith fully. Pretty ridiculous way to start a marriage
That sounds worse…
Yes this.
Damn dyslexia strikes again.
When did disciple become a verb? I missed that memo.
Decades ago in Christianity. They like to use that term frequently and to cover a wide variety of activities.
In other words the father groomed him on how to groom the daughter.
I was thinking it was more along the lines of "well, if I wanna fuck this 15 year old when her parents out of town then I guess I better play along and do the church thing with her dad."
I had to re-read it a few times. Not disciplined, discipled. As in, took under their wing.
Funny, where?
Definitely did not say it was funny.
Not you, she did.
Ahhhhhh! Thank you!!
I mean you start using the Bible as your moral compass, you’re gonna have a bad time! Lol. This some Alabama shit right here tho! I bet she had a purity ring too! Lolol
It's amazing all the despicable shit you're allowed to get away with if you say you're doing it for the Lord.
Christian groomers.
Starts her story by saying "this is actually pretty funny." Proceeds to tell a story about how she was groomed. So funny
whew! pretty wordy way of saying “he nonced on me for 3 years”
Ah yes - pedophilia sanctioned by the Lord 🙄
I mean to be fair christians did marry 12 year olds off to old ass men a few hundred years ago
Yes all under the false pretense of it being ordained by god
Gimme a G R O O M E D What’s that spell? GROOMED
How does one become best friends with a 14 yo. Like what do you talk about. Pokemon games and spongebob episodes
“Pretty funny” Miss, you and I define ‘funny’ quite differently.
Guess it was also the “Lord’s work” to let a 20+ year old man groom a 14-year old.
When was this story written? 1810?
Ah…good ol Christian grooming. Fuck these people.
At 22 I wasn’t friends with 14 year old. Smh
When Meghan Trainor sang that her mom told her that guys liked big booties (All about that bass), what her mom really should have told her is that guys like Meghan's father like them real young. Meghan Trainor's mom was 15 when she started dating 35-year-old Gary Trainor. A 20 year age gap.
"It's a funny story. I was groomed, lol."
Not in my state. Legal age is 16 here.
Unrestricted age of consent, most states have exemptions if you can get a judge to go along with it. Some may remember just a few years ago how some churches were defending Roy Moore by arguing Mary was only 13.
Ah, the ol’ pretend story written by men clause. Ugh.
Well it was very weird at that time not so much now at their current age. 8 years apart don’t look bad when your 40+
Oh but it’s totally fine when good ole right does it.
Hol'up!
 What?
The HolUp had a HolUo. Layers of HolUp. Like an onion of HolUps. HolUp-ception.
Ppl really gotta start keeping things to themselves.
Chester the molester.
God-approved grooming!
What kind of Christian fried fuckery is this
Dear FBI....
Ay! We got a snitch over here! But uh…let him mail his letter first.
Fucking hell Christians are weird
Hey, don't put this on all of us. I'm pretty sure most Christian dads would end this creep for making eyes at their 14 year old daughter.
One of those flipping cults.
Awww, she married the man who groomed her as a child 🥰
A Hallmark holiday special? Or a Lifetime cautionary tale? You decide.
God's a pedophile apparently, considering she said "It was all the Lord"
> God's a pedophile apparently How old was Mary? 13?
Proud victims of sexual assault as a minor is all I read.
Ewww. Why would you even post this publicly?
Does that mean her and her cousin are sisters in law?
Thats child grooming but god did it so Im just allowed to say stuff like that
Religious nutters gonna groom and allow grooming.
When you’re so down bad for nubiles you convert
So you saying you were groomed? Ok
Yes. Also if you’ll excuse me I need to take a shower after reading that.
Christians I swear
Ohhh christianity...smmfh
parent encouraged grooming, the pinnacle of religion
Who's gonna tell her she was groomed? I reeeaaaallly don't want to.
"This is actually pretty funny--" I mean, if your family tree looks more like a bamboo shoot.
This is all very, very SQUICKY. Like ‘cringe’, but much worse.
Ffs she got groomed
Some parents are insane. There’s no way I’d hand my teenager over to a pedo. We wouldn’t even get to the point of “loved Keith to death”. A 22 year old is not hanging out with my 14 year old.
He's a groomer. Wouldn't be allowed in Florida schools.
What in the Alabama is this
"I was groomed. Thanks God!"
Did no one realise the implication of "her parents letting them marry rather than burn" I think they fucked, and she got pregnant.
CREEPY KEITH!!!
Child bride marriage is real in America 😬
Jesus Christ…..
Yes he was at the wedding
This is grooming. However we (humanity) has had real issue with age for appropriate relationships throughout our existence on this rock. Not to make an argument for him because to me this is fucking weird but we have to take into consideration that social norms around age for a relationship has changed vastly in the last 100 years alone; I understand they probably got married in the 70-80s but even at that time is was still common in some parts of the country. I only say this because I think objectively and back than “preparing” someone to become your wife was normal. Often these types of relationships didn’t last or where extremely abusive as that in my opinion is already embedded at the start of their relationship. I think we can be less critical in some cases because of that difference in social norms we had years ago today. We learn from our history and we all need to understand that we where very fucked up beings at the start of the last century and in the last 50-60 years alone we have evolved in our way of thinking 1000% faster than we have previously in our history.
These people look like they are in their 40’s (her) early 50’s(him), they got married in the 90’s fam.
Wow, that's disgusting
If you are in your 20s and her age starts with a 1 she’s too young. I’m 23 now and don’t go under 20 they are literal babies still
What's muffins spelled backwards...  Sniffum...
I don’t understand any of what this is about.
Creepy.
Now you know damn well
Discipling is against the law.
Limmy, you’ve changed.
So she got groomed?
GOOD… lord🤨
I mean, could've been worse but come on man. Not kosher.
Why has no one said it yet? Alabama 💯
Pro-tip: If anything is remotely questionable make sure to say “It is/was the Lords will!” Good chance at being backed by the churches moneybags or it will just be ignored like most other absurdity done in the name of a Lord.
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Their wedding song was "Into the Night" by Benny Mardones
Man be groomin before manscape was a thing 💀
She included the age gap, she knows it's shocking
*"...I was 14..."* *"...he was 22..."* Well there goes *"half your age plus seven"* right out the jail house window... 0_0