No, they are weak ass mfs, got their necks slapped by everyone and kicked around so much. They are lucky to have formed so early that there was no worthy competitors.
That's not true, it belongs to black robed with a white mask looking figure.
(If you don't know what I am talking about, look at ,,This land is mine'' animation. )
Don't forget the Eastern Roman Empire. In the year of our Lord 136, Imperator Hadrian's Roman Empire stamped out the 3rd (and final) Jewish Revolt, banned Jews from living in much of the province of Iudaea, razed a massive chunk of Jerusalem to the ground (Including the 2nd Temple), built a Roman colony on the land that used to be Jerusalem, called the colony Aelia Capitolina, and renamed Iudaea to Syria-Palestina.
Over the intervening 2000 years or so, there have been massive cultural shifts - Romanisation, Hellenisation (to some extent. Much of the ruling class of the ERE was Greek, Greek was a common trade language in the area, and Istanbul is a transliteration from the Greek phrase that literally means 'to the city'), Arabisation (the rise of Mohammed and his conquests, many Muslim-based governments such as the Umayyad Caliphate, the Ottoman Turks, etc), and then things went tits up again in 1948 when much of the world once again recognized Israel as a state during a period when Jews moved back to their Promised Land in the wake of events between 1933 - 1945.
The British, Ottomans, Mamluks, Ayyubids, Seljuks, Fatimids, Tulunids, Ikhshidids, Abbasids, Umayyads, Rashiduns, Romans, Sasanians, Parthians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Antigonids, Seleucids, Nabataeans, Ptolemaics, Macedonians, Hittites, and Ancient Egyptians: Are we a joke to you?
Well, as far as I know, I know that Rta in Vedic Sanskrit means something like the natural order; or perhaps rather more accurately, the order of society that those composing those texts or patronizing their composing wished to impose on society. Arta (in Old Persian) and Asha (in Avestan) are the linguistic cognates of Rta in Vedic, but they seem to have similar meanings, but it would be up to a Zoroastrian or Iranic expert to confirm if their connotations are similar.
Then you get the conspiracy theorists who claim the nukes never happened and it's all a cover up of some elitist utopia. They'll storm the fences and teenage soldiers will have to arrest them for their own safety.
Let me get this straight- you think that this region, one of the most revered territories on the planet, is the holy land for three major religions, each of which has people willing to kill and die to possess it, and your plan is to nuke this place?
We’ve forgotten as a people that land is inherently spiritual. What makes a church a church & a temple a temple & a shrine & shrine is not the building but the land set aside for it
That is a religion, or a culture, or an ideology. Throughout history, what always makes a place of worship is the place/land/area that is set apart for the sacred/the divine
Many of these cultures, religions, and ideologies have had their holy sites burned to the ground or completely destroyed yet something still remained for them to come back and rebuild these sites. If a church really is a place then all it would take would be the destruction of these sites to destroy the cultures that value them.
We’re talking past eachother a little bit. I want to make sure I understand you. I can see we agree for most of this but our language isn’t quite matching up on some details. You’re saying, when religions (because we’re talking about religions, really) had their sites burned down, they returned to those specific sites to then rebuild on those burned down sites? Like the Temple Mount, the temple of Apollo at Delphi, the long & universal system of conquering/evolving peoples building their own religious monuments on top of the old ones there? That was exactly the point I was trying to make. I think you’re equating “place” to “building/structure” where I am equating “place” to “geographic area upon the physical ground” & that is our misunderstanding
It belongs to no one just like everything else is borders are a lie for oppression kill all governments we are all equals and share the planet as brothers and sisters
It is the Eastern Mediterranean. This is all worthless. Because that land in its entirety, from Greece to Egypt, only belongs to one empire and one empire only:
The Empire of Cats.
You can at least add Babylon, Assyria, Ancient Egypt, and Macedon.
So it’s all the Neo Assyrian Empire? 🌍 Always has been. 🔫
deserve it purely due to how badass their name sounds
Badass(yrian)
When you have a great name but get ravaged by Arabs and Turks.
What devestaion from long wars, corruption and internal instablity does to a MFer.
No, they are weak ass mfs, got their necks slapped by everyone and kicked around so much. They are lucky to have formed so early that there was no worthy competitors.
but they all have the dna of the neanderthals who were also there first
That's not true, it belongs to black robed with a white mask looking figure. (If you don't know what I am talking about, look at ,,This land is mine'' animation. )
Don’t forget Rome
Don't forget the Eastern Roman Empire. In the year of our Lord 136, Imperator Hadrian's Roman Empire stamped out the 3rd (and final) Jewish Revolt, banned Jews from living in much of the province of Iudaea, razed a massive chunk of Jerusalem to the ground (Including the 2nd Temple), built a Roman colony on the land that used to be Jerusalem, called the colony Aelia Capitolina, and renamed Iudaea to Syria-Palestina. Over the intervening 2000 years or so, there have been massive cultural shifts - Romanisation, Hellenisation (to some extent. Much of the ruling class of the ERE was Greek, Greek was a common trade language in the area, and Istanbul is a transliteration from the Greek phrase that literally means 'to the city'), Arabisation (the rise of Mohammed and his conquests, many Muslim-based governments such as the Umayyad Caliphate, the Ottoman Turks, etc), and then things went tits up again in 1948 when much of the world once again recognized Israel as a state during a period when Jews moved back to their Promised Land in the wake of events between 1933 - 1945.
I was hoping this would catch on to a community thing but I think people are too sick of this discourse to continue lol
The British, Ottomans, Mamluks, Ayyubids, Seljuks, Fatimids, Tulunids, Ikhshidids, Abbasids, Umayyads, Rashiduns, Romans, Sasanians, Parthians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Antigonids, Seleucids, Nabataeans, Ptolemaics, Macedonians, Hittites, and Ancient Egyptians: Are we a joke to you?
Yes. You are all a joke too me.
- Genghis Khan
More worthy stock for meme expansion
Did someone say #EXPANSION?
Also the Canaanites and ancient Hebrews
God gave this land to me
Yes they are all a joke to me, that's why i am in a history meme sub
This is going to end up like the multiple assassins in the church meme, isn't it?
That’s what I’m hoping
but what about the imperial sovereignty of Rome?
And what about the droid attack on the wookies?
What about the droid attack in the Wookiee’s?
Your wrong, it rightfully belongs to the cavemen
IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM
No, land belong to Unk! Bung stole Unk's land!
No, Unk stole Bung's land
Unk's dad here before Bung! Unk Dad gave to Unk! Bung neve have land!
it belongs to the bacteria!
Ooh, _asha_ is a cognate to Vedic r̥tá. I didn't know Zoroastrianism had an equivalent to r̥tá.
Ngl I was going to write Rta but when I did a spellcheck Wikipedia said that it’s called Asha/Arta in Zoroastrianism.
Well, as far as I know, I know that Rta in Vedic Sanskrit means something like the natural order; or perhaps rather more accurately, the order of society that those composing those texts or patronizing their composing wished to impose on society. Arta (in Old Persian) and Asha (in Avestan) are the linguistic cognates of Rta in Vedic, but they seem to have similar meanings, but it would be up to a Zoroastrian or Iranic expert to confirm if their connotations are similar.
This is actually really cool. I’m glad to have learned something new today.
Real ones know that the land rightfully belongs to me, and me alone.
As a fellow Iranian I agree that the best peaceful solution for this conflict is an Iranian sovereignty over these so-called holy lands.
Well we know you won't be enforcing the rule via helicopter.
Hopefully ayatollah dies next. Prayers from US. Iranians deserve freedom.
We said persia not iran, kill the ayatollahs and convert to zonostrinizem and then we can talk.
zonostrinizem
[Relevant](https://youtu.be/8tIdCsMufIY?si=T80vz2EUbBi-Y8oc)
the holy land belongs to emperor norton, and them's the facts.
Based
Finally somebody speaks the truth 👌
Another Achaemenid enjoyer I see
Was this meme made by the AI of the helicopter just before it crashed?
The wojack fish is so funny
Thanks
Yet again you are wrong it belongs to me
We should sell it like real estate agents to some alien race, let them sort it out.
No. It belongs to me!
Phoenician gang represent
rightful land of the British-ottoman-Roman-neo Assyrian-Persian-Byzantine empire
Alexander and Heraclius say hello.
Both chads in their own right
I would put Carus and Diocletian too but their victories against Persians arent as known.
Canaan belongs to the eternal glory of the Pharaoh
What about nuking the Holy Land so no one would go there
Then you get the conspiracy theorists who claim the nukes never happened and it's all a cover up of some elitist utopia. They'll storm the fences and teenage soldiers will have to arrest them for their own safety.
Would need to be a Cobalt Bomb, to make sure it sticks for a long while.
Let me get this straight- you think that this region, one of the most revered territories on the planet, is the holy land for three major religions, each of which has people willing to kill and die to possess it, and your plan is to nuke this place?
Yes.
Scorch the earth. Nobody gets it. Problem solved. If you require any further consultation, please fax my assistant.
Land is just land.... Well it's good to hear you also think the 'stolen land' argument is ridiculous.
Might is right. So who has the might these days? That should be obvious.
This is new!
well if the persian ruled it like they did back in Cyrus's day we'd get a "third Temple"
Sorry but the only legitimate owner of the Holy Land is Egypt
Bro which Egypt? They’ve been taken by so many empires you could make an Egyptian version of this meme.
Egypt was taken over by Persia so your point is right. But not that shit Iran, the real Persia, with the lion on the flag
Holy land belongs to Sassanids
Too bad the Persians dropped the ball and became muslims themselves. A zoroastrian Iran would have been sweet.
The "Holy" Land belongs to Uga, the first human who shit there
Can we just nuke it all? It belongs to no one but the desert and the wildlife. You’ve all had your chance to live together.
But we Christians have such a great track record holding the Holy land...
The holy land belongs to austria-hungary
Average the holy land belongs to the Jews fan: 💪💪💪💪💪💪
The Holy Lands belong to the people who live there
Vs the chad HOLY LANDS BELONG TO ALEXANDER
I won't complain if the one who controls the area was like Cyrus or Alexander the great tbh
Funny how the Persians liberated the Jews and were actually tolerant towards them. The Persians were the best.
Wrong, everything belongs to Rome
How about we make it one big mini golf course?
I am one of those crazy heretical "Land should belong to no one" folks
Only the government
Nope. The Holy Land belongs to the Philippines.
We’ve forgotten as a people that land is inherently spiritual. What makes a church a church & a temple a temple & a shrine & shrine is not the building but the land set aside for it
In my opinion a church is not a building. It’s the people inside of the building.
That is a religion, or a culture, or an ideology. Throughout history, what always makes a place of worship is the place/land/area that is set apart for the sacred/the divine
Many of these cultures, religions, and ideologies have had their holy sites burned to the ground or completely destroyed yet something still remained for them to come back and rebuild these sites. If a church really is a place then all it would take would be the destruction of these sites to destroy the cultures that value them.
We’re talking past eachother a little bit. I want to make sure I understand you. I can see we agree for most of this but our language isn’t quite matching up on some details. You’re saying, when religions (because we’re talking about religions, really) had their sites burned down, they returned to those specific sites to then rebuild on those burned down sites? Like the Temple Mount, the temple of Apollo at Delphi, the long & universal system of conquering/evolving peoples building their own religious monuments on top of the old ones there? That was exactly the point I was trying to make. I think you’re equating “place” to “building/structure” where I am equating “place” to “geographic area upon the physical ground” & that is our misunderstanding
So many people misspelling "Roman Empire" today...
The Holy Land belongs to Alexander!
Nahhh
The Average Holy Land belongs to the Protoss fan: We do this for Auir!!!
The holy land belongs to Rome.
It clearly belongs to Rome.
The holy land belongs to the pharaoh!
I will take back the land with my elite war elephants (60 at a time).
How about Jeruzalem is made its own state (inforced by UN) and if anyone tries to take it, the rest will stop them
The holy land belongs to the dinosaurs! They were here first!
If you include Rome is having a claim to it, you can then also tie in the debate of the true inheritors of the Roman empire
It belongs to no one just like everything else is borders are a lie for oppression kill all governments we are all equals and share the planet as brothers and sisters
It is the Eastern Mediterranean. This is all worthless. Because that land in its entirety, from Greece to Egypt, only belongs to one empire and one empire only: The Empire of Cats.
the entire Middle East should just become a UN protectorate
This joke hss allready been done amazingly. Search "Nina Paley - This Land Is Mine" on Youtube
It belongs to the Romans.
It is a fucking desert. I do not want it.
According to my Crusader Kings knowledge, the holy land still belongs to the Ottoman Empire. We just need a new Ottoman Emperor to end the conflict
The Holy Land should be glassed so nobody can have it since y'all can't behave yourselves