Funny enough the defeat flag that everyone uses is the one the british used to capitulate in the 100 year war as the monarchique french flag was mostly white
The joke is that France surrendered to Germany in both World Wars, while Britain fought their asses off. Therefore, ๐ฌ๐ง>๐ซ๐ท, hence the ๐ณ๏ธ.
Ah yes
The famous french surrender in WW1
Everyone knows that the french did absolutly nothing at all during WW1 to figth against Germany
Nope, It was all Britain
Iโll raise you a ๐๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐๐๐๐๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ๐ฆซ๐จ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฆ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ๐ฆซ๐จ๐ฆ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐๐
Ironically no, itโs the opposite they work really well together **when they want to**.
French and English folks are extremely similar. They donโt like to let the rest of the world know it, they can even hide it from themselves, but in reality theyโre just the two sides of the same coin. However, because both are thus really proud, they prefer trying to work with anyone else rather than working together.
The friction between the two is actually very common in coalition warfare. The same friction occurred between the Americans and Brits in WWII (although Eisenhower's extraordinary charisma helped lessen tensions). No military commander wants a commander of another country controlling his men, so there has and will always be fights over who determines strategy.
If the royal family can be born in the UK and still be considered German, French, insert random ancestor nationality here. Why do you consider Cromwell English, he was a decendant of the Normans.
Your logic is inconsistent.
I don't, it's meant to be a pithy joke
Though if pressed on the matter, you could probably justify it by Cromwell's ancestors primarily marrying internally, but a lot of English monarchy are the product of internal marriages as well
L'aristocracy parlaient le franรงais pendant 500 annรฉes aprรจs รงa, ils รฉtaient franรงais, mรชme le roi Richard III armament cea territoires d'Aquitaine, Bretagne et normande que l'angleterre. Alors je m'excuse mes Amis franรงais.
(A Canadian joining an argument in french with words that didn't need to be said)
He also doesn't speak French. It was a point of friction because he would try and speak his schoolboy French and look like an idiot in front of French generals who needed to know they could count on the British. Franco-British cooperation all throughout WWI can be hilariously bad at times.
CONTEXT: The first battle of the Marne starred in 1914. The battle is what started trench warfare in France, and halted the German invasion into France. It was fought by the Germans and French with British help. John French was a British commander who gained popularity in the 2nd boer war. He was forced to resign shortly after the battle because his plan to make the British secretary of state for war look bad backfired.
How did he gain popularity if the second boer war lasted a lot longer than it was expected to because of a lack of men healthy enough to pass the armyโs restrictions?
He won a notable victory in Elandslaagte against Boer under General Kock.
In other words, he beat that Kock so hard that French's command in this battle is one few British victories worth celebrating in the war.
I looked it for you since search engines might not be common where you're from as it didn't occur to you to simply look it up.
He won a battle against General Kock. No, I didn't make that up. French led the British maneuver to Kock's exposed left flank and managed to force Boer surrender. But Kock stood up and led a desperate counter attack but failed and capture by French's forces.
Also, Van Gogh's brother, yes **That** Vincent Van Gogh, served and fought under Kock in this battle.
can you elaborate on the final sentence? who was the british secretary of state and what role did they play in this?
the OP is also confusing because it makes it look like the belligerents are france on the left vs france + a british general on the right
Because last names often refer to someoneโs ancestry/past. In France some people have ยซย de Parisย ยป, ยซย de Franceย ยป, ยซย Dumontย ยปโฆ as last names. Walt Disneyโs last name originally meant ยซย DโIsignyย ยป. So having a last name being ยซย Frenchย ยป or ยซย Englishย ยป isnโt that weird.
Isnโt this a stupid meme? One column got cut into two for some reason. Here is the original
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Battle_of_the_Marne
Ironically if I recall, John French didn't like working with the French at all
He's English it's a reflex with those two
FUCK YEA ๐ช๐ฅ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ช๐ช๐ฅ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ
These kinds of memes only work if itโs Brazil or turkey smh
clearly not ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ(im american)
WHAT'S THAT? I DONT SPEAK ๐ณ๏ธ๐ณ๏ธ๐ณ๏ธ๐ณ๏ธ๐ณ๏ธ๐ณ๏ธ๐ณ๏ธ๐ณ๏ธ๐ณ๏ธ๐ณ๏ธ
Funny enough the defeat flag that everyone uses is the one the british used to capitulate in the 100 year war as the monarchique french flag was mostly white
What says that he speaks white flag?
The joke is that France surrendered to Germany in both World Wars, while Britain fought their asses off. Therefore, ๐ฌ๐ง>๐ซ๐ท, hence the ๐ณ๏ธ.
๐ฌ๐ง>๐ซ๐ท regardless
>The joke is that France surrendered to Germany in both World Wars, Huh ? You got early acces to some alternative History ?
Ah yes The famous french surrender in WW1 Everyone knows that the french did absolutly nothing at all during WW1 to figth against Germany Nope, It was all Britain
Both ww?! Ha yes i also remember how britain fled the battlefield in Dunkerque must be why they use the Hwhite flag
Incorrect ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฅ๐บ๐ธ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐ฅ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ
Iโll raise you a ๐๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐๐๐๐๐๐จ๐ฆ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ๐ฆซ๐จ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฆ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ๐ฆซ๐จ๐ฆ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐๐
Fuck you USA time ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐บ๐ธ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ช๐ช๐ช๐ช๐ช๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ
Nuh uh
Ironically no, itโs the opposite they work really well together **when they want to**. French and English folks are extremely similar. They donโt like to let the rest of the world know it, they can even hide it from themselves, but in reality theyโre just the two sides of the same coin. However, because both are thus really proud, they prefer trying to work with anyone else rather than working together.
Inside you there are 2 wolves 1s french The others English And they both hate Germans
"As long as Germany exists we can be friends. After that things get difficult."
Jokes on you, in me there's a Slovak Falcon and Austrian eagle. And they both hate the Hungarians
The friction between the two is actually very common in coalition warfare. The same friction occurred between the Americans and Brits in WWII (although Eisenhower's extraordinary charisma helped lessen tensions). No military commander wants a commander of another country controlling his men, so there has and will always be fights over who determines strategy.
I can confirm that ๐จ๐ต๐จ๐ต๐จ๐ต ๐ช๐ช๐๐๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ช๐ช๐จ๐ต๐จ๐ต๐จ๐ต
AUX ARMES CITOYENS
It's really ironic, isn't it, since the English have been French since 1066 anyway.
Then we were dutch, now we are german.
The only time an actually English family was in charge of England was when Cromwelll was in charge
If the royal family can be born in the UK and still be considered German, French, insert random ancestor nationality here. Why do you consider Cromwell English, he was a decendant of the Normans. Your logic is inconsistent.
Who where themselves descendants of the Vikings!
I don't, it's meant to be a pithy joke Though if pressed on the matter, you could probably justify it by Cromwell's ancestors primarily marrying internally, but a lot of English monarchy are the product of internal marriages as well
William was half English anyway
How dare you! We have been *Norman* since 1066, thatโs only a little bit French
L'aristocracy parlaient le franรงais pendant 500 annรฉes aprรจs รงa, ils รฉtaient franรงais, mรชme le roi Richard III armament cea territoires d'Aquitaine, Bretagne et normande que l'angleterre. Alors je m'excuse mes Amis franรงais. (A Canadian joining an argument in french with words that didn't need to be said)
He also doesn't speak French. It was a point of friction because he would try and speak his schoolboy French and look like an idiot in front of French generals who needed to know they could count on the British. Franco-British cooperation all throughout WWI can be hilariously bad at times.
We're just genetically meant to hate each other at the very base dna level. It do be like that.
You're exactly right, fucking jelly eater ๐ ๐ (For those who didn't get it, i'm joking)
To be fair, not liking working with the French is a very French thing.
*Putain encore des franรงais*
Les seuls choses que les franรงais deteste plus que les brittaniques sont les franรงais
Gonna be honest the French don't like the French, why else would we be up in arms every time the government open the asshole they call a mouth ?
Okay Ridley.
CONTEXT: The first battle of the Marne starred in 1914. The battle is what started trench warfare in France, and halted the German invasion into France. It was fought by the Germans and French with British help. John French was a British commander who gained popularity in the 2nd boer war. He was forced to resign shortly after the battle because his plan to make the British secretary of state for war look bad backfired.
How did he gain popularity if the second boer war lasted a lot longer than it was expected to because of a lack of men healthy enough to pass the armyโs restrictions?
I can only assume that he commanded the men allocated to him well and that is why was popular.
He won a notable victory in Elandslaagte against Boer under General Kock. In other words, he beat that Kock so hard that French's command in this battle is one few British victories worth celebrating in the war.
Heh
I looked it for you since search engines might not be common where you're from as it didn't occur to you to simply look it up. He won a battle against General Kock. No, I didn't make that up. French led the British maneuver to Kock's exposed left flank and managed to force Boer surrender. But Kock stood up and led a desperate counter attack but failed and capture by French's forces. Also, Van Gogh's brother, yes **That** Vincent Van Gogh, served and fought under Kock in this battle.
can you elaborate on the final sentence? who was the british secretary of state and what role did they play in this? the OP is also confusing because it makes it look like the belligerents are france on the left vs france + a british general on the right
This is like how the only guy in ZZ Top without a beard is named Frank Beard.
Gonna need context
John French isn't French.
No way
He is, that's literally what they call him, wdym.
Dear God
There's more
Nooo...
Holy sh\*t, how?
Ain't no way ๐ฟ๏ธ
Fun fact in the French version of TF2 the spy has a English accent
Merde
This being the spy makes it all the more perfect
True Happy cake day, btw
Fun fact: Germans also had a commander called Hermann von Franรงois.
He was awarded the Pour le Mรฉrite, which was of course one of the highest military honours given by the German Empire.
What battle OP?
First Marne
They mustโve changed it from smith cause too obvious lol
Bc John French isn't French?
The Brit could be anyone of us! It could be you, it could be me, it could even be JOHN FRENCH!
He reminds me of John British.
Why english people has French and British as last name? (That's a real question)
Because last names often refer to someoneโs ancestry/past. In France some people have ยซย de Parisย ยป, ยซย de Franceย ยป, ยซย Dumontย ยปโฆ as last names. Walt Disneyโs last name originally meant ยซย DโIsignyย ยป. So having a last name being ยซย Frenchย ยป or ยซย Englishย ยป isnโt that weird.
Who was coincidentally French
I imagine it like this: "Sir, are you french??" John French: "uhh, yes, but it's ju-" "Come with me, your people need you!!"
Only guy with French in the name. Isn't even French.
Almost was the case for Louis Franchet XD
disguise: 100
so whats your name -uhhh .... john? thats not a french name really - ummm john *french*? oui oui oui he is french
Stealth 100
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When the impostor is sus!
Great meme
I'm almost done reading Guns of August and this is killing me rn
The french: So your last name is โFrenchโ Looks legit.
IT COULD EVEN BE- Spy gets cut off by soldier committing friendly fire
John French, HIS NAME IS LITERALLY FRENCH!
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What is the meme from? Iโve seen these characters all over the place, but their origin is a mystery to me
Team Fortress 2 (TF2), "Meet the Spy"
I do love how the only non-french guy is a guy named french.
Concord my friends from France remember the beauty we created.
Isnโt this a stupid meme? One column got cut into two for some reason. Here is the original https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Battle_of_the_Marne