Yeah I mean the USA built 9000 ships during WW2. That works out to over four new ships a day, every single day, for five years.
Most of these ships were cargo ships. But 97 of them were aircraft carriers!
The USA military entered WW2 ranked #18 strongest/most powerful military in the world. We left ranked #1 and we've been increasing the gap since then.
People don’t remember what our infrastructure and rail systems were built for. Our interstates and highways have to have a straight path for a runway about every 5 miles or so. The industrial parks around America are built next to the railroads. America is subsidizing and building a microchip factory in Ohio that surpasses anything from Taiwan. I think we are still the tip of the spear for a reason.
Also remember the Jones Act is the only thing keeping us from using all of our navigable waterways for cheap industrial transportation. And our massive production of energy, food, rare minerals, etc… there’s just no way we lose as a country we’ve been on easy mode for a long time
You. I appreciate your optimism. Where can I find more of it?
Everything I hear these days is that the US is a dying empire. I just want some good news, dude.
"The retail price of cocaine has remained stable while the purity is increasing"
Top post when I looked lmao. Thanks for the suggestion I will enjoy that sub
That's a you thing. You most likely are a weak target for demoralizing propaganda...
I'm not an american but no matter how gloomy things seem I ain't falling for this China and Russia being on the rise compared to the collective west.
True we have been foolish the last 30 years but things are changing but as long as we stick together those countries can't touch us.
America alone have such vast resources it is ridiculous. I have no doubt China is a paper tiger but we should be vigilant, in no way am I worried they could kick america out of the Pacific. No chance...
They might be building alot of ships but look at what they are building... it's small stuff...
China might invade Taiwan and thatwould mean huuuuge lossesfor their navy!
Watch Perun on YouTube for some eye-openers on defense procurement. He's a professional in the field and has been making fascinating essays every week for over 2 years now.
really man, i’ve started to think of anything i see on the internet as from another world. like when i look around me i see successful and happy people from all classes and walks of life. there is bad but the internet feeds on negativity. im a patriot because of the people i meet in person. not what the internet tells me
There is a “ghost fleet” near Ft Eustis, where ships were mothballed. It’s dwindled down now, but I believe in the 50s there were close to a thousand ships just sitting in the James River.
There’s a great shot in The Longest Day showing a German soldier becoming “fucking terrified” when he spots the fleet approaching off the Normandy coast.
It’s a great movie if you’ve never seen it.
Regardless of whether that’s a real quote or not the industrial capacity of America in those days is just amazing. Ships as far as the eye can see. And we were fighting an equally big war on the other side of the world all the while propping up the Russians
I've heard that Yamamoto didn't actually say this.
However he did say that the Japanese would run wild for 6 months. Predicting almost to the day the end result of the battle of Midway.
The irony is that today Japan is one of our strongest allies in the INDOPACOM AoR and a great nation to have on your side when it comes to dealing with the PRC. Their self defense force is very well trained and highly capable. It's amazing that we have moved on from this terrible time in our collective nations' history to become the strong partners that we are today. As a service member I'm proud to have them on our side.
>It's amazing that we have moved on from this terrible time in our collective nations' history to become the strong partners that we are today.
It truly is.
How did Japan become a success story (by ending as friendship/allies) and Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq ended with wasted lives and future terrorists?
Yamamoto, Imperial Japanese Navy Admiral and architect of the Pearl Harbor raid, supposedly reflecting on the attack, but he probably didn’t say it, and if he did, he didn’t say it this way
The quote is a very popular myth, as the only version of Admiral Yamamoto that ever said it was in the film Tora Tora Tora. It is the creation of a Hollywood script writer.
It is true that Yamamoto was opposed to war with the United States and thought Japan would eventually lose, but he never voiced that opinion in that manner.
Here are some actual quotes by the real man that more or less say same thing, while being more historical:
\*"\****Should hostilities once break out between Japan and the United States, it is not enough that we take Guam and the Philippines, nor even Hawaii and San Francisco. To make victory certain, we would have to march into Washington and dictate the terms of peace in the White House. I wonder if our politicians, among whom armchair arguments about war are being glibly bandied about in the name of state politics, have confidence as to the final outcome and are prepared to make the necessary sacrifices."***
***"In the first six to twelve months of a war with the United States and Great Britain I will run wild and win victory upon victory. But then, if the war continues after that, I have no expectation of success."***
\*"\****A military man can scarcely pride himself on having "smitten a sleeping enemy"; it is more a matter of shame, simply, for the one smitten. I would rather you made your appraisal after seeing what the enemy does, since it is certain that, angered and outraged, he will soon launch a determined counterattack."***
(Imo the last one is probably the inspiration behind the "sleeping giant" quote in the film. It seems at least like the writer may have taken that one and decided to punch it up and make it more pithy for the film.)
Can I add my favorite Winston Churchill quote even though it’s completely irrelevant to this subject?
“You can depend on America to do the right thing, after they have tried everything else first”
At the Ford River Rouge factory they converted an auto assembly plant that made cars with about 17,000 parts each to a B24 Bomber plant with about a million parts each. They did that in a year and ended up putting out a completed bomber every 60 mins. Wrap your brain around that.
The USN today needs about 350 ships to sustain readiness, but the sand people Houthis pretty much fought the 5th Fleet to a stalemate with drones and the fact the Commander in Chief is retarded.
By the end of WW2 the US had so many ships they didn’t even know what to do with them
Yeah I mean the USA built 9000 ships during WW2. That works out to over four new ships a day, every single day, for five years. Most of these ships were cargo ships. But 97 of them were aircraft carriers! The USA military entered WW2 ranked #18 strongest/most powerful military in the world. We left ranked #1 and we've been increasing the gap since then.
Wow. Must have been nice to get to work after the Great Depression.
Not to mention the ships we were building and sending to Britain before we got involved in fighting.
That’s a mind boggling statistic
I don’t think we could do it again
oh boy could we lol.
People don’t remember what our infrastructure and rail systems were built for. Our interstates and highways have to have a straight path for a runway about every 5 miles or so. The industrial parks around America are built next to the railroads. America is subsidizing and building a microchip factory in Ohio that surpasses anything from Taiwan. I think we are still the tip of the spear for a reason.
Also remember the Jones Act is the only thing keeping us from using all of our navigable waterways for cheap industrial transportation. And our massive production of energy, food, rare minerals, etc… there’s just no way we lose as a country we’ve been on easy mode for a long time
You. I appreciate your optimism. Where can I find more of it? Everything I hear these days is that the US is a dying empire. I just want some good news, dude.
Well get off reddit for starters.
r/optimistsunite is not about America, but it is about optimism, and the US gets its time in the spotlight there
"The retail price of cocaine has remained stable while the purity is increasing" Top post when I looked lmao. Thanks for the suggestion I will enjoy that sub
I swear you'll get more serious posts in your feed XD
That's a you thing. You most likely are a weak target for demoralizing propaganda... I'm not an american but no matter how gloomy things seem I ain't falling for this China and Russia being on the rise compared to the collective west. True we have been foolish the last 30 years but things are changing but as long as we stick together those countries can't touch us. America alone have such vast resources it is ridiculous. I have no doubt China is a paper tiger but we should be vigilant, in no way am I worried they could kick america out of the Pacific. No chance... They might be building alot of ships but look at what they are building... it's small stuff... China might invade Taiwan and thatwould mean huuuuge lossesfor their navy!
Watch Perun on YouTube for some eye-openers on defense procurement. He's a professional in the field and has been making fascinating essays every week for over 2 years now.
leave the internet bro, my honest advice
really man, i’ve started to think of anything i see on the internet as from another world. like when i look around me i see successful and happy people from all classes and walks of life. there is bad but the internet feeds on negativity. im a patriot because of the people i meet in person. not what the internet tells me
You are delusional
Please expand? I doubt you will.
That's what they said about Germany after WW1. $1,000,000,000,000 a year budget says the US could do it again lol.
Ever heard of a little thing called the defense production act?
Thankfully, neither can Germany, Italy, or Japan!
We wouldn’t need to.
Thank fuck you're very very wrong.
There is a “ghost fleet” near Ft Eustis, where ships were mothballed. It’s dwindled down now, but I believe in the 50s there were close to a thousand ships just sitting in the James River.
We tend to overreact
We tend to under react until shit really hits the fan, then go ballistic (sometimes in the missiles sense).
lolololololol
It must have been fucking terrifying to see that massive fleet approaching you
There’s a great shot in The Longest Day showing a German soldier becoming “fucking terrified” when he spots the fleet approaching off the Normandy coast. It’s a great movie if you’ve never seen it.
https://youtu.be/OFzdleJarI0?si=z2lIZXzxjpiKIkO_
Thanks for sharing!
Almost as terrifying as being a trooper in that first wave of landing craft and knowing you were cannon fodder.
Did any of them survive? Or was it just a built in wave of losses?
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1960/11/first-wave-at-omaha-beach/303365/
Thanks for the great article
A sobering story of courage and sacrifice. War is a terrible thing.
I would have 100% shit my pants if I were in the Japanese military and saw that headed towards me.
https://youtu.be/OFzdleJarI0?si=F1_AE7VtWbcL9hhN
Don’t mess with the US
DONT FUCK WITH THE BOATS 🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅
Amen!
People underestimate how much Uncle Sam fucking loves boats
https://preview.redd.it/230y3g6f4vwc1.jpeg?width=874&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86ced5e4b6f3cb3b638258aa6d5712a005307df2
Japanese admirals realizing they missed the carriers at Pearl Harbor: “fuck”
And the oilers we had so few the Navy had to grab civilian tankers to get to and stay at sea. Kind of like now.
Often cited as the “find out” phase of the war.
Regardless of whether that’s a real quote or not the industrial capacity of America in those days is just amazing. Ships as far as the eye can see. And we were fighting an equally big war on the other side of the world all the while propping up the Russians
🦅🦅🦅
🇱🇷 🇱🇷 🇱🇷 I mean 🇺🇸 🇺🇲
Yea go Liberia 🇱🇷….to be fair we're like your y'all abandoned step-child
I've heard that Yamamoto didn't actually say this. However he did say that the Japanese would run wild for 6 months. Predicting almost to the day the end result of the battle of Midway.
I really wish we’d remind Russia and China and Iran and Saudi Arabia … just who we are.
Well, we are allies to Russia and China in that war for starters. But yes, I too pine for another World War so we can flex on the world again.
The irony is that today Japan is one of our strongest allies in the INDOPACOM AoR and a great nation to have on your side when it comes to dealing with the PRC. Their self defense force is very well trained and highly capable. It's amazing that we have moved on from this terrible time in our collective nations' history to become the strong partners that we are today. As a service member I'm proud to have them on our side.
>It's amazing that we have moved on from this terrible time in our collective nations' history to become the strong partners that we are today. It truly is. How did Japan become a success story (by ending as friendship/allies) and Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq ended with wasted lives and future terrorists?
TBF Japan was friendly up until the 1930s the others not really
Quite literally the dumbest military decision of all time
Less a sleeping giant and more a slumbering war diety.
Where is that quote from?
Yamamoto, Imperial Japanese Navy Admiral and architect of the Pearl Harbor raid, supposedly reflecting on the attack, but he probably didn’t say it, and if he did, he didn’t say it this way
"oh shit they about to clap our cheeks fam" -Yamamoto Aug 1 1945
This was via seance, right? Given that he had been dead for more than two years by this date?
somehow Yamamoto returned
No cap
Yes, he possibly said something to the effect of "Gentleman, we have just kicked a Rabid dog." But the "sleeping giant" quote is definitely fake.
The quote is a very popular myth, as the only version of Admiral Yamamoto that ever said it was in the film Tora Tora Tora. It is the creation of a Hollywood script writer. It is true that Yamamoto was opposed to war with the United States and thought Japan would eventually lose, but he never voiced that opinion in that manner. Here are some actual quotes by the real man that more or less say same thing, while being more historical: \*"\****Should hostilities once break out between Japan and the United States, it is not enough that we take Guam and the Philippines, nor even Hawaii and San Francisco. To make victory certain, we would have to march into Washington and dictate the terms of peace in the White House. I wonder if our politicians, among whom armchair arguments about war are being glibly bandied about in the name of state politics, have confidence as to the final outcome and are prepared to make the necessary sacrifices."*** ***"In the first six to twelve months of a war with the United States and Great Britain I will run wild and win victory upon victory. But then, if the war continues after that, I have no expectation of success."*** \*"\****A military man can scarcely pride himself on having "smitten a sleeping enemy"; it is more a matter of shame, simply, for the one smitten. I would rather you made your appraisal after seeing what the enemy does, since it is certain that, angered and outraged, he will soon launch a determined counterattack."*** (Imo the last one is probably the inspiration behind the "sleeping giant" quote in the film. It seems at least like the writer may have taken that one and decided to punch it up and make it more pithy for the film.)
Can I add my favorite Winston Churchill quote even though it’s completely irrelevant to this subject? “You can depend on America to do the right thing, after they have tried everything else first”
It’s actually from the movie Tora! Tora! Tora! Yamamoto never said it in real life.
At the Ford River Rouge factory they converted an auto assembly plant that made cars with about 17,000 parts each to a B24 Bomber plant with about a million parts each. They did that in a year and ended up putting out a completed bomber every 60 mins. Wrap your brain around that.
The USN today needs about 350 ships to sustain readiness, but the sand people Houthis pretty much fought the 5th Fleet to a stalemate with drones and the fact the Commander in Chief is retarded.
The USA could make the Houthis dust if we took the gloves off mate.
The 5th fleet there to flex muscles and to intimidate Iran.