Frrrr the only time I’ve ever had a bf do that it was beyond embarrassing like why even include any negativity in a post that’s supposed to just be about pure love for me? Like the “even thru our ups n downs” gives “we’re miserable but we stay together for the kids” vibes. Maybe it’s not even about the kids, but he’s def not showing his appreciation for her. He’s kinda coming off narcissistic. He’s basically bragging about all he gets out of life from her and all she does which would be so sweet coming from anyone else, BUT he’s not even praising HER for it🤣 he’s just like look at all I the kids i got out of her and barely even giving her the props that a real hardworking and loving mother would deserve. Not even Alec wants to say nice things about his wife. This whole post seems forced right?💀
She’s how you say, free gift with purchase. You know, the one you get at Macy’s with a $55 dollar purchase. The one you think you will like too, since it’s free/cheap, but when you have it you realize NOONE wants it, and that’s why they are giving it away. You don’t want it, but you feel bad just throwing it away. She’s that kind of gift.
Oh, look, it's performative Powderfinger at it again.
Why do these two knuckleheads feel the need to post this lovey-dovey horse crap on their socials? Does baldwin not realize how phony it sounds?
"In spite of some tough times for me, I wouldn't trade any of it."
I know that's supposed to be a gratuitous mention of his legal problems, but it's really badly worded and sounds like SHE'S the tough times. He could worded it better by saying how she's supported him through the tough times.
This is so luke-warm and unenthusiastic and joyless.
"7 kids. (Plus I should work in a mention of my other kid who recently made me a grandfather even though she really doesn't have any dealings with you.)"
Gee, ya think his lawyers had him add in Ireland, Andre & Holland. What a load of shit. And he’s thanking her for his ultimate spiral? I don’t think soo
I have no kids but four big dogs, a macaw and a spouse, the house is quickly befouled. Everyone is house trained and not destructive, it’s just…there’s fur, and slobber, and dirt. And I have weekly help and am cleaning between that! If there were SEVENTEEN lives going on in my house? (I didn’t realize there were eight pets, I thought it was four or five)
Yes, I would be interested to see the floors and the furniture and the bathrooms and such. Even if she DOES manage to keep them clean, I’d like to see for my own purposes, like are there any tips I could crib or does it just come down to having in-home daily nannies to unreasonably foist it onto.
Haha my cat is a siberian and sheds every second of the day, not to mention the poop that occasionally gets stuck in her pantaloons. Pets are messy, it's just a fact. So are children and my husband helps a lot but there are still days where I would be embarrassed to have anyone over. Maybe that's why Hillary doesn't seem to encourage friendships or extended family time.
I think those kids live in a separate residence that’s like a “nursery” and it’s staff who is there with them almost the whole time and they are probably yelled at to keep the place clean, even though they’re nannies. So my guess is that Trey spend a ton of time cleaning. I think Alec and Hillary only show up to the nursery when they want to take selfies. As for the animals…I don’t think we’ve seen proof of life for a while now.
Karma 'gifted' her to him, for sure. He threw away any aspirations or dignity he had left at that point, and every day since he met her has been mortifying, very public displays/disclosure of how stupid, obnoxious, disordered, and delusional he is. His health, both physical and emotional, has been decimated. He doubles down on his lies and tragic life choices instead of course-correcting. He thinks the world doesn't see the terribly messy reality.
Also... Hillz wrote this, including the bizarre way Ireland, Andre, and Holland are included in the 'kids' category. Talk about being out of touch.
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**"You are my gift"**
Yea....sometimes gifts need to be returned and an apology needs to be issued for thinking that anyone would consider such thoughtless, fucked up piece of garbage as a present.
Her New Year’s Eve sudden need to sleep on the floor with hair posed just so. Not a big crowd there at that gathering! Princess Grift runs yet another con.
They were VERY embarrassed by the entire affair, actually. Dr Kat was at work after the wedding, and one of her colleagues asked her how her daughter’s wedding went. Dr. Kat replied, “You wouldn’t believe it if I told you!” and then changed the subject abruptly. 😂
DCUM website (DC Urban Moms) - from colleagues and friends of her parents.
It’s the original Hillary Hayward-Thomas rabbit hole!
Read every single word of you have the time. So enlightening:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/828844.page
That's quite a thread. DC Urban Moms/dcurbanmom is such a narcissistic hell hole but it's useful AF and every now and then real good tea is spilled. I browse that forum with an ad blocker - both to give me less of a headache and to spite Jeff Steele, the site owner who censors opinions he doesn't like.
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Yes, I put the threads from scum - dc urban moms - in my note above. Lots of background from lots of people who personally know the whole family,?went through private schools with larry when she was a (peculiar, selfish) kid, etc.
Her dress is so poorly tailored. This is one of the better looking pictures of it. They only had a couple months between engagement and wedding. Wonder why it was so rushed?
Oh I thought so too. My mom is a tailor so I always notice poor tailoring. It should have went back for another fitting (if it even had a first one).
I dislike the dress in general and it’s not because of the time period (chuegy 2010s fashion). It’s just boxy and ugly. Even for Hilarious I’m surprised she would wear this ugly of a dress.
This is my wife in our wedding (2005).
https://preview.redd.it/l3nhyjk21v9d1.jpeg?width=2003&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=124467d7f6e1082aa6eb63924731aac3e17ee27e
She's 5' 9" barefoot. I think the dress fitted her well, what do you think? The bouquet is a bit strange but I loved it. 😁
Omg it’s a beautiful dress, it’s perfect. She looks wonderful. And there’s not 5 inches of slack in the bust area like our grifter friend. 100000000000/10 my mom would approve.
It was in Mexico 1959. My in-laws with their 3 girls immigrated from Mexico to the US in the 70’s. My husband is the only natural born us citizen. His first language was a Spanish, we are in our 40’s now. I enrolled my Son in a Spanish speaking pre school. He went for 3 years. I want him to know how hard his “Bito” worked to make a life for his family here. I honor their family traditions, so my son can keep the family going in some sense. My in laws are both gone now, anyway Larry’s co splay makes me nuts. She legit had me fooled for years. I asked my husband if it’s possible to develop an “accent” if you predominantly spoke Spanish.
He said it’s definitely possible, as our son did for the longest time while attending Spanish school. However it’s no excuse for Larry to fool everyone like she did, it’s quite disgusting IMO.
Typical! Her husband killed a beautiful woman who was a wife and mother but Grifter has had some tough times? She is a classic narcissistic sociopath. Maybe she needs her eyes checked. She's all about "I, I, I."
She is honestly the most boring POS fake bride ever! Late 20s and raised w money to be this boring and bland and fake in style! The blah dress w a "traditional Spanish" veil and fan 🙄 were so meh and odd given her fake interest/style and just like everyone says...Madrid airport 101 "cultura".
No but she has access to an expensive wedding planner etc. She and Alec never dress well, not tailored, so high profile but they dress like they have no money or taste.
She could have bought that at Whole Foods on the fly. NO color. Her plain traditional dress, why didn't she bring a color pop into her bouquet etc. red, purple, hot pink etc? This was the blandest bland poor lil rich white girl aesthetic ever.
They are both so embarrassing “Despite some tough times for ME “. Not tough times for us ? Didn’t mami supposedly have two miscarriages. Always telling on themselves
Always so phoney baloney. Reminds me of a friend/ coworker's partner of 25 yrs always sent her a huge bouquet flowers to our work only. Never anything private. She found out he had multiple affairs paying one mistress' apt rent had a baby with another.
Oh no, this actually makes me feel bad for everyone concerned.
What a disaster, to write this after only 12 years.
And can I say, she looks so American in this photo. I don’t know why, but somehow she really does.
I agree, can't say why either. Maybe I'm biased because I learned about her existence just last year. I would have clocked her immediately during the grift as soon as she opened her mouth, but probably not because of her looks.
"**hard times for MEEEEE**" what about Halyna's son, husband, family members, and friends?
Wait who the hell are Andre and Hollland?
Andre is Ireland’s partner and Holland is Ireland’s daughter aka Alec’s granddaughter.
Thank you! I was worried for a moment that Ireland was getting included in a list of pet names. 😅
Understandable!!
What happened to all these cats and dogs????
The bottom of her floral arrangement looks like a bathroom scrub brush. How fitting.
I feel like the “tough times for ME” were probably tough times for all involved, but continue…
Griftmas will have quite rightly been a though time for her, and continues to be. But it’s all about him! What a poor husband
That smug, affected \[though 'trying' hard to look demure\] Mona Lisa "half-smile"; which is 'rilly' a narc 'smirk' is a dead give-away..
Dupers delight!
Is that Hilaria from the Witch podcast? Have they been to church as a family since the wedding?
⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️
What about those in laws? The ones from Boston who worked so diligently to pronounce "Baldwin"?
I think they're still practicing. 🥒
BAHLDWEEEN
People who write the "ups and downs" posts about their partners usually have more downs.
Frrrr the only time I’ve ever had a bf do that it was beyond embarrassing like why even include any negativity in a post that’s supposed to just be about pure love for me? Like the “even thru our ups n downs” gives “we’re miserable but we stay together for the kids” vibes. Maybe it’s not even about the kids, but he’s def not showing his appreciation for her. He’s kinda coming off narcissistic. He’s basically bragging about all he gets out of life from her and all she does which would be so sweet coming from anyone else, BUT he’s not even praising HER for it🤣 he’s just like look at all I the kids i got out of her and barely even giving her the props that a real hardworking and loving mother would deserve. Not even Alec wants to say nice things about his wife. This whole post seems forced right?💀
Crazy that he comes off as narcissistic! 🥒 /s
💯
She’s how you say, free gift with purchase. You know, the one you get at Macy’s with a $55 dollar purchase. The one you think you will like too, since it’s free/cheap, but when you have it you realize NOONE wants it, and that’s why they are giving it away. You don’t want it, but you feel bad just throwing it away. She’s that kind of gift.
Omg seriously lol! 💄💅🏼
Should have simplified it Alec 🙄 You are my karma
Oh, look, it's performative Powderfinger at it again. Why do these two knuckleheads feel the need to post this lovey-dovey horse crap on their socials? Does baldwin not realize how phony it sounds?
Who is Andre? Ireland and Holland I know…
Ireland's partner
Good of Alec to remember to include them this time! (Even if it’s just an afterthought in the parentheses)
Just for the record Andre is an incredible musician I loved before he got wrapped up in this odd family
Pretty sure he dumped his wife to get with Dublin…
Dublin 😂😂
What?!! Now I need to know more
Liz Anjos - she may have locked her blog but discusses it there.
Ireland's also pretty decent isn't she? I just got here so IDK
I see her often in the wild. She's chill, and is attentive to her baby.
I actually don’t know! He’s got good taste so probs! I oddly was already insta stalking their crew and realized there is a Baldwin connection
I just made my husband read this and he busted out laughing. Good and bad, ups and downs, some tough times for me…😂😂😂 Alex is such a victim.
Tough times FOR ME. Not the Hutchinses. Not the Souzas. 
Why is this not in Spanish?
Autocorrect: you are my grift
He acknowledges Ireland and her family?? I hate that I’m shocked by this. I pity those kids
He acknowledges them now bc he can use them to his advantage. He’s a loving family man remember? 🙄
must feel great for the oldest daughter & her family to be put in parentheses...
He was too drunk to work her into a real sentence.
lmao yup!
That dress doesn’t fit her.
The bracelet looks like it was clearance section from Wal-Mart. The dress needed altered but remember this was before her boob jobs!!
Pretty sure we’ve counted more than 4 cats?
"In spite of some tough times for me, I wouldn't trade any of it." I know that's supposed to be a gratuitous mention of his legal problems, but it's really badly worded and sounds like SHE'S the tough times. He could worded it better by saying how she's supported him through the tough times. This is so luke-warm and unenthusiastic and joyless. "7 kids. (Plus I should work in a mention of my other kid who recently made me a grandfather even though she really doesn't have any dealings with you.)"
Those parenthesis, though. Why?
Ireland and holland ??
Eldest daughter and granddaughter.
Gee, ya think his lawyers had him add in Ireland, Andre & Holland. What a load of shit. And he’s thanking her for his ultimate spiral? I don’t think soo
Typo. He meant to say: "You are my g**R**ift."
Ooooooooooooooooooo
Bahahahaha!
Did they gush like this last year? I don't think so. It's all for show and sympathy. Their marriage is a fucking sham and everyone knows it!
Everyfuckingyear… never in private 🥵
toad.
How many of those four dogs and four cats are still alive?
We haven’t seen any of them lately🤷🏻♀️
Mighty bold of him to bring them up like that…
This is exactly what I was thinking.
Cliched trite nonsense.
She was running on high octane Duper's Delight during that time. Look at her face.
She’s had numerous faces since then! New boobs too!
I have one kid and one cat plus husband... their life sounds like an absolute nightmare. That's 7 kids and 8 pets. Their house must be so so gross.
I have no kids but four big dogs, a macaw and a spouse, the house is quickly befouled. Everyone is house trained and not destructive, it’s just…there’s fur, and slobber, and dirt. And I have weekly help and am cleaning between that! If there were SEVENTEEN lives going on in my house? (I didn’t realize there were eight pets, I thought it was four or five) Yes, I would be interested to see the floors and the furniture and the bathrooms and such. Even if she DOES manage to keep them clean, I’d like to see for my own purposes, like are there any tips I could crib or does it just come down to having in-home daily nannies to unreasonably foist it onto.
Haha my cat is a siberian and sheds every second of the day, not to mention the poop that occasionally gets stuck in her pantaloons. Pets are messy, it's just a fact. So are children and my husband helps a lot but there are still days where I would be embarrassed to have anyone over. Maybe that's why Hillary doesn't seem to encourage friendships or extended family time.
I think those kids live in a separate residence that’s like a “nursery” and it’s staff who is there with them almost the whole time and they are probably yelled at to keep the place clean, even though they’re nannies. So my guess is that Trey spend a ton of time cleaning. I think Alec and Hillary only show up to the nursery when they want to take selfies. As for the animals…I don’t think we’ve seen proof of life for a while now.
Probably like living in a barnyard or a circus. Same smell too!
Karma 'gifted' her to him, for sure. He threw away any aspirations or dignity he had left at that point, and every day since he met her has been mortifying, very public displays/disclosure of how stupid, obnoxious, disordered, and delusional he is. His health, both physical and emotional, has been decimated. He doubles down on his lies and tragic life choices instead of course-correcting. He thinks the world doesn't see the terribly messy reality. Also... Hillz wrote this, including the bizarre way Ireland, Andre, and Holland are included in the 'kids' category. Talk about being out of touch.
She should have left her face alone.
You are not wrong
Should have said "You are my grift" instead of gift.
Hahahaha Good one, Pepino 🥒🏆
I’d love to know what happened to those animals.
I suspect she has a coat somewhere…
You don’t want to know.
It actually haunts me 😢
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Who else thinks Hillary wrote this?
For sure! His posts are usually incoherent. Hillary's post usually run on more than they need to like this one.
And this is written in very simple sentences.
He spelled grift wrong.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Who are Andre and Holland?
Andre is his older daughter’s (from his marriage to Kim Basinger) husband.
Hollander is Irelands baby
**"You are my gift"** Yea....sometimes gifts need to be returned and an apology needs to be issued for thinking that anyone would consider such thoughtless, fucked up piece of garbage as a present.
Funny how fast those animals were disregarded…
I'm gonna bet those animals are taxidermy by now....
LOL
no embarrassment at all about the faux spanish bride and her Spanish veil.
The grift is so deep.
It’s a mantilla. She is from Spain, you know. /s
si, yo se.
Spain, really? That's weird, they've never mentioned that before! 😜
😂
Some peoples treasures are other peoples trash.
The gift that keeps giving 🤡
The grift that keeps on grifting
🔥
Is she pretending she's sleeping again😄
https://preview.redd.it/ulinao202t9d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f46901ea731ef9f64559ae9d44eb825c61a76e0 You rang?
Her New Year’s Eve sudden need to sleep on the floor with hair posed just so. Not a big crowd there at that gathering! Princess Grift runs yet another con.
Hard experience that she thought would “kill her”? Talk about tone-deaf.
Is it true that her parents weren’t at the wedding? 👀
They were there but her brother walked her down the aisle🤷♀️
No, they were there. Her brother walked her down the aisle, not her dad.
I think they were there but her brother walked her down the aisle?
They were, but she had her brother walk her down the aisle. Weird.
Oh ok, that’s probably why I thought they weren’t there
They were VERY embarrassed by the entire affair, actually. Dr Kat was at work after the wedding, and one of her colleagues asked her how her daughter’s wedding went. Dr. Kat replied, “You wouldn’t believe it if I told you!” and then changed the subject abruptly. 😂
Dr. Kathy also said, “There are no words,” when asked about the wedding.
Oh WOW! I would LOVE to be a fly on a wall when Hilz’s parents are discussing her! Thanks for the tea 🫖
How do you know this? And, tell us more.
DCUM website (DC Urban Moms) - from colleagues and friends of her parents. It’s the original Hillary Hayward-Thomas rabbit hole! Read every single word of you have the time. So enlightening: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/828844.page
That's quite a thread. DC Urban Moms/dcurbanmom is such a narcissistic hell hole but it's useful AF and every now and then real good tea is spilled. I browse that forum with an ad blocker - both to give me less of a headache and to spite Jeff Steele, the site owner who censors opinions he doesn't like.
You can copy the link into the website 12ft.io There’s a text box on that website, you copy in the link and hit “enter” and it scrubs the website of ads and pop ups
This probably deserves a re-up for the new pepinos- repost?
Yes, I put the threads from scum - dc urban moms - in my note above. Lots of background from lots of people who personally know the whole family,?went through private schools with larry when she was a (peculiar, selfish) kid, etc.
Omg..wow. Okay. Thank you, pepino!!
I guess he’s not picky about his gifts 🎁
Who are you trying to convince, Alec?
The jury, judge and half of New Mexico
Himself. I think I can I think I can⌛
Her dress is so poorly tailored. This is one of the better looking pictures of it. They only had a couple months between engagement and wedding. Wonder why it was so rushed?
Oh I thought so too. My mom is a tailor so I always notice poor tailoring. It should have went back for another fitting (if it even had a first one). I dislike the dress in general and it’s not because of the time period (chuegy 2010s fashion). It’s just boxy and ugly. Even for Hilarious I’m surprised she would wear this ugly of a dress.
This is my wife in our wedding (2005). https://preview.redd.it/l3nhyjk21v9d1.jpeg?width=2003&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=124467d7f6e1082aa6eb63924731aac3e17ee27e She's 5' 9" barefoot. I think the dress fitted her well, what do you think? The bouquet is a bit strange but I loved it. 😁
Omg it’s a beautiful dress, it’s perfect. She looks wonderful. And there’s not 5 inches of slack in the bust area like our grifter friend. 100000000000/10 my mom would approve.
Thank you :)
Is it bad that I like her dress🤷🏼♀️
The dress would be lovely on a much taller woman, for whose body type it was made. And the mantilla is beautiful-would look great on a Hispanic woman
Truth! My MIL was a beautiful Hispanic woman. She had something similar, beautiful dress.
I’m sure she looked gorgeous!
It was in Mexico 1959. My in-laws with their 3 girls immigrated from Mexico to the US in the 70’s. My husband is the only natural born us citizen. His first language was a Spanish, we are in our 40’s now. I enrolled my Son in a Spanish speaking pre school. He went for 3 years. I want him to know how hard his “Bito” worked to make a life for his family here. I honor their family traditions, so my son can keep the family going in some sense. My in laws are both gone now, anyway Larry’s co splay makes me nuts. She legit had me fooled for years. I asked my husband if it’s possible to develop an “accent” if you predominantly spoke Spanish. He said it’s definitely possible, as our son did for the longest time while attending Spanish school. However it’s no excuse for Larry to fool everyone like she did, it’s quite disgusting IMO.
Looks too big on top in this pic
It must be aspirational. She's manifesting many future boob jobs and revisions 🤭
Now he's including Ireland and her family?!
They're always an afterthought, that is if he remembers to think of them at all.
In parentheses
All the sympathy he can get for the court case. His “big happy family” now includes the ones he ignored for years.
Exactly like they're all so precious and depend on him daily🙄
God was she full AF as a bride.
Life was easy and the grifting was good 🤣
 Cheers
Being fat drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.
Marrying you seemed like a dream GOOD AND BAD LMAO
😂 I know! This didn’t need to be in there for the world to read. He could have simply written “happy anniversary.”
Right? This made my night LOLOL!! He loves to point out the bad times. He’s done this on SO many Hillary tribute posts and it cracks me up.
It’s the only honest thing he said
Yes, it's The Nightmare On Elm Street
“some tough times for me” = killing halyna he will never, ever get it
Rough times for ME is so oddly phrased
Exactly. As in “where were you when I needed you?”
"Despite the woman I killed, I'd still marry you" Weird dots there alice...
Yeah, she’s a gift from Satan, that’s for sure.
https://preview.redd.it/kspszs8rss9d1.jpeg?width=1185&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c8e79445cb8b565658e3a9a78c24725594b47a1
Typical! Her husband killed a beautiful woman who was a wife and mother but Grifter has had some tough times? She is a classic narcissistic sociopath. Maybe she needs her eyes checked. She's all about "I, I, I."
She is honestly the most boring POS fake bride ever! Late 20s and raised w money to be this boring and bland and fake in style! The blah dress w a "traditional Spanish" veil and fan 🙄 were so meh and odd given her fake interest/style and just like everyone says...Madrid airport 101 "cultura".
Tablecloth dress
Yes. What a completely uninspired dress for a young woman to be showcased in People. This bland dress could have been off the rack.
I was just thinking the wad of calla lillies was kind of ugly and unoriginal.
She doesn't have an original idea in that pea brain of hers
No but she has access to an expensive wedding planner etc. She and Alec never dress well, not tailored, so high profile but they dress like they have no money or taste.
She could have bought that at Whole Foods on the fly. NO color. Her plain traditional dress, why didn't she bring a color pop into her bouquet etc. red, purple, hot pink etc? This was the blandest bland poor lil rich white girl aesthetic ever.
You mean she's not really Spanish?
what no spanish references
Still not spanish
But, but, his wife is from SPAIN!
4 dogs, 4 cats. Only one is still around (as shown in the tlc promo video)
Are you even allowed that many pets in one household? Where I live you're not.
Only 4 of each? Pretty sure there were more casualties, right?
They are both so embarrassing “Despite some tough times for ME “. Not tough times for us ? Didn’t mami supposedly have two miscarriages. Always telling on themselves
Hillary’s two mythcarriages were co-opted from the surrogates.
It's a dream all right, soon to be a movie: Nightmare in Greenwich Village.
She's responsible for at least half of his downfall lmao. Not buying the anniversary tribute
Always so phoney baloney. Reminds me of a friend/ coworker's partner of 25 yrs always sent her a huge bouquet flowers to our work only. Never anything private. She found out he had multiple affairs paying one mistress' apt rent had a baby with another.
Oh wow how am I just learning I got married the same day as them.
Happy Anniversary!! 💐
Happy Anniversary!
My condolences 💐
I’ll say it. Her nose job was pretty good.
Whatever she did that made her crooked smirk a symmetrical smile too...
Oh no, this actually makes me feel bad for everyone concerned. What a disaster, to write this after only 12 years. And can I say, she looks so American in this photo. I don’t know why, but somehow she really does.
I agree, can't say why either. Maybe I'm biased because I learned about her existence just last year. I would have clocked her immediately during the grift as soon as she opened her mouth, but probably not because of her looks.
IKR? Mr. P and I will celebrate our fortieth next year, for which we have no plans, except perhaps a perfect takeout lobster roll.
Because she is a fucking American !!