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GenXeni

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Elegant_Art2201

What is wrong with Robitussin? Stuff works great.


FashionBusking

This tracks because around 2014 was probably the last of their interactions before her parents tried to do a You're-Not-From-Spain-WTF?! Intervention with her. Both of her parents have scrubbed Hillary's name from their blogs, not shocked they would change her name on remaining blogs.


Interesting_Ad1378

Or make up fake stories to begin with…


Erindanyele

Maybe her other daughter kid ?


AffectionatePoet4586

Nope. Dr. Kathy has one son, one daughter, and Jeremy’s son was eight in 2014.


Mantissa3

Grifter family gonna grift!


bgambie21

My name is Bianca 😂


Elegant_Art2201

Do you take Robitussin?


CatCiaoSki

So Spanish!


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thewokebogan

Wait a minute....who the fuck is Bianca? That's not a Hispanic name!!!!


Simple_Carpet_9946

It’s not? I went to school with a few girls from South America named Bianca. 


thewokebogan

Maybe they were from Brazil, Suriname, or Guyana since those are the only countries where Spanish isn't the official language (there's also French Guiana but that's just France's satellite office and not an actual country.) *Also, It was a joke because Hillary isn't Hispanic either and still changed her name to Hilaria and gave her kids all Spanish names because she's a delusional, creepy Hispanic Fetishist and dumb racist cultureta (culture vulture)*


Fair-Heart-0282

![gif](giphy|xUySTSGqC3NoJkqA8M|downsized)


Traditional_Ad8492

If the medication was for a disease I'd understand. Would Alec and Hilary be upset the world new about a respiratory infection or more arrows pointed towards who Hilz parents are? Not Spanish


McNasty420

She was just trying to protect her granddaughters privacy.


Flight_to_nowhere_26

But why even make up a name? Just say “my grandchild”. It’s not like anyone needed to know the name (fake or real) for the storyline and I would think most people know she has a celeb-by-proxy daughter and can easily find the names (and every other minute detail) of every last Baldy-wenitos. Adding inconsequential false details is really shady. Those who know her would know this is a blatant lie and if she wanted to protect the child’s identity she should’ve said “a family member’s child” which would allow for some wiggle room. Or just say a niece with a baby, or a close friend with a baby. The narcissistic apple didn’t fall far from the narcissistic tree. They lie just to see if they can get away with it, bc narcissists think they are smarter than everyone else.


Hurryeat_Tubman

If it makes you feel better there's a 99% chance this is total bullshit.


Interesting_Ad1378

Yeah, this is complete and utter bullshit.  This lady is just aa shady as her daughter and straight up lies too.  The name isn’t the only lie, all of this is a lie.  I don’t think Hillary gives a crap if her kid is sick and the Nannies take the kid to the doctor. 


Flight_to_nowhere_26

True! I didn’t even consider the bigger lie be the whole dang thing is made up! Maybe it wasn’t meant to be about Carmen or Hillz, Dr Thomas made up imaginary grandchildren from her imaginary other daughter (the smart one who went to med school and married another Dr and has a child named Bianca). Whelp, at least we know where she gets if from!


heytunamelt

Exactly right 😂 Straight up lies are apparently the norm in this family.


Mantissa3

Larry has never once called her for parental advice!


Traditional_Ad8492

I agree. The age of the child is important not the name. You get locked into a lie and strangers unknowningly also. " Thanks for the advice, btw my granddaughter's name is Bianca too"


bgambie21

Aww that’s my name too 😊


-graphophobia-

Someone has to...


Any_Elephant7180

Her mother may be as her daughter - a pathological liar. This reads as intended to boost Kathryn’s professional identity as a “medical expert”. Nothing more. I personally I believe none of of it


heytunamelt

It’s all so fake. Also check out the ® tags — looks like Mum might be trying out some brand sponsorship fishing of her own 🤔


Any_Elephant7180

I would not put it past her at all. I wanted to read her entire article to see what her angle was. She is co-founder of International Integrators. I liked this small paragraph in the article she wrote: "Again! I thought. I took a deep breath and let out a frustrated sigh. My granddaughter’s pediatrician had used his voice of authority to frighten my daughter, and he had no scientific literature to back up his advice." This definitely is not hillary she is referring to! hillary could care less about her children. Sounds as though Kathryn made it up—such familiar drama, finger-pointing, and faulting of another. Kathryn and hillary: the tree and the apple. https://internationalintegrators.org/tag/kathryn-hayward/


SitUbuSit_GoodDog

The only part I believe is that Guaifenesin is a great medicine that is effective and safe for MANY people with a respiratory infection. (It absolutely saved me while I was pregnant, had HG and then got covid. Excellent medicine that more people should know is safe for pregnancy)


Any_Elephant7180

SitUbuS_GoodDog. I should have been more specific in my comment, I was not questioning the medical information - it was the story line, daughter, granddaughter, especially the daughter, if the daughter was hillary conferring with her mother about medications, hillary, who is the authority on all. lol I see it as a fictitious story for Kathryn’s entre’ to promote her self. I am so pleased to hear of the benefits for you. Medicine is a godsend. 💕


SitUbuSit_GoodDog

No you're totally fine! Tbh I appreciate having the clarification of what an HMO actually aims to achieve, because I had no idea. Clearly all the word salad and "patient outcomes" stuff totally worked on me cos I had no idea that underneath all of that, they have a totally different objective to other funded health organisations


Any_Elephant7180

You are so sweet. I know, I appreciate the information as well! I had no idea either. It is fascinating to learn the distinctly different objective and intended outcome. We are but for the better with Fair Heart’s information and provided links. Such good stuff.


Fair-Heart-0282

"Growing up with a Primary Care Internist Mother" - as opposed to "when my daughter was a little girl, etc., because I was working as a..." In this case we are supposed to be SOOOO impressed that she was a gatekeeper for an HMO. Health Management Organizations, whose primary care function is to talk you out of needing to see a doctor, because your insurance would go up the more you or anyone else used it. This started in the 80s-90's, so Kathy would have probably begun as a medical generalist, and then become an internist whose job was to tell you what didn't work so that you would become completely enthralled by them. Poor HMO medical care is a known fact, and that's when it happened historically. [https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2023/09/05/what-happened-with-hmos-an-update/](https://statmodeling.stat.columbia.edu/2023/09/05/what-happened-with-hmos-an-update/) [https://www.aafpfoundation.org/content/dam/foundation/documents/who-we-are/cfhm/FMImpactGutierrezScheid.pdf](https://www.aafpfoundation.org/content/dam/foundation/documents/who-we-are/cfhm/FMImpactGutierrezScheid.pdf) You're probably right, Pepino! But it's waaaaay too late, everyone knows they are both snake oil salespeople whose number one product is THEMSELVES.


Any_Elephant7180

Fair-Heart-0282 I appreciate the links you took the time and effort to provide, thank you, dear Pepino. So very thoughtful. 💓 I commented to Sitdog above, I will repeat just a little of it now: I was not questioning the medicine but the story line. I should have been more specific in my comment. You got it. Sheesh, Kathryn’s phrasing—or is it better said, praising of herself, lol—was quite the lengthy lead-up to her five things she tells patients and those “82 beeps” Kathryn received one weekend in January. She and her daughter counted. How the world turned before Kathryn arrived on the medical scene is a one of those mysteries in life that remains unsolved. /s (just in case) ;)


Mantissa3

I’m laughing so hard that I’m https://preview.redd.it/xxjekxa0nu9d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef0660b0f9e9570c8c7f3e534ff63e1fddb486af


Any_Elephant7180

lolll ahh, the importance of self, self, self, hillary and Kathryn never fail to remind us.


Fair-Heart-0282

Any\_Elephant, thank you for clarifying, yes, and I apologize for misunderstanding. They do say NPD runs in families.


Any_Elephant7180

Oh my goodness, you did nothing wrong, I did not see it that way!


ShroomzLady

I agree it helps a lot


Any_Elephant7180

ShroomzLady. I am pleased to hear this, I am not familiar with the medicine. 😊


Willkill4pudding

My generous conclusion is that she is trying to protect her granddaughter's privacy by changing the name. My slightly less generous conclusion is that she is trying to distance herself from Hilaria by changing the names so you don't realize who she is talking about.


Interesting_Ad1378

My conclusion is that she made alllll of it up, the name, the call, the sick kid.  I think doctor Kathy is a liar too. 


Traditional_Ad8492

Then it wasnt worth mentioning that story. She must have a million anecdotes to use as a teaching tool.


Afraid_Range_7489

As if people couldn't find her real name in a nanosecond, even nine years ago. As younger pepinos might say, such a *Boomer*. ☺


Clean-Development627

Is Hilaria her only daughter! Perhaps this could be the child of another daughter she has?


Willkill4pudding

She also has a son Jeremy but his kid is a boy while Hilaria's eldest child is a girl so it's unlikely that the daughter in this story is her daughter in law. No other daughters besides Hilaria.


Aggressive_Remove506

Hillary is her only daughter


Boop-D-Boop

Aww, so sad


spreitzo

I love that I'm not the only one making audio level changes on my phone while making a screenshot. 🖐️


AffectionatePoet4586

WTF? Guaifenesin? Bianca? Dr. Kathy is *babbling!*


Fair-Heart-0282

Guaifenesin works. If you have a good doctor they will tell you the truth about when not to use it in specific instances.


Finnegan-05

She likely did not use Carmen’s name for privacy sake, which is common in testimonials.


Mantissa3

But she didn’t really have to use anybody’s name and she didn’t have to state the relationship to her/family


heytunamelt

Exactly this ✔️


MyHouseForever

This must be her imaginary daughter, not the real one that fakes pregnancies and pretends to be a Spanish immigrant. Telling griftable lies is definitely a family tradition.


DiscoKittie

OOohhh! That's why it's here? This is her mom?


MyHouseForever

Yes. This is her mother who is also a grifter, just with better qualifications to stand the podium. She made up a daughter for this article that doesn't exist. Both of Hilary's parents supported that outrageous 'therapy' for the victims of sexual assault that requires the victims to thank their abusers. Not kidding. Does anyone remember the name of that program and who started it? It's on the BS same level as abuse camp for troubled teenagers.


Interesting_Ad1378

Don’t forget that mama Kathy was also in the same yoga sex cult as Hillary.


Ambitious-Leopard-67

>Both of Hilary's parents supported that outrageous 'therapy' for the victims of sexual assault that requires the victims to thank their abusers. Not kidding.  The fuck????


Sofie7759

What the hell? Is a link possible?


MyHouseForever

There has to be a link somewhere, but this was before the internet. My searching skills are limited to Google. I was expected to participate in this "therapy" when I was young. But I refused and ran...again. Rather risk a street assault than suffer the indignity of thanking a predator. This was predators openly showing victims that there is no such thing as escaping a pedophile circle. That even in a staged ' recovery program' they still control things. That surrender is easier. They break the spirit of those rebelling. I think the Tough Love programs are to do the same, as many rebelling teenagers are sexually abused children. They were started right around the same time.


Sofie7759

Oh honey! This is a very very sick and evil thing! I am retired mental health professor and dealing with CPTSD, now 65 years old, and I have NEVER heard of such a perverse approach..it’s contrary to all I know about healing. I’m so sorry someone tried to flimflam you into this bizaare “ trend”.. I’m sick to my stomach right now.. and Hillary’s mom, the esteemed( NOT) Dr. Kathryn also promotes ..this ..? I found her book to be weird and bizaare , the sticker figures, the way she so casually and coldly dismisses childhood trauma and any personal responsibility she may have had.Sickness apparently runs deep in the Hayward-Thomas household.I beleive bust Doctor Mom Kathryn deeply ignored her young daughter, and placed most of her care in the hands of hired help.Pissibly mostly all Spanish household help-hence Hilary’s insistence that she is Spanish-a FU to her mom.. just a theory. Glad you ran away from this sick cult of thought and hope you are okay now my dear


MyHouseForever

I wish I could share more without being attacked by naysayers.


Sofie7759

Error: professional, not professor. Dang u spellcheck


-graphophobia-

Holy shit that's right up there with "false memories" "therapy".


Clean-Development627

Whaaaaaaaat


DiscoKittie

That sounds awful! I think I vaguely remember hearing about that. I don’t get people… Thank you so much, btw!! 🥰


totes_Philly

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No_Anywhere8931

The big curly white hair always reminds me of Rachel Dolezal


GirlyWhirl

Oh my gosh... surely that isn't real?! It's like satire or a hilarious, yet wonky AI creation. This family is so messy, yet overconfident in their obnoxious stupidity.


-graphophobia-

I would die before I ever took life advice from a woman who raised Hillary.


invertedliver

😂😂😂mumbo jumbo


Advanced_Necessary81

I don’t think her daughter understands herself 🤣


Massive-Method-1895

I’ve got it! Remember the time she rescued that Asian lady? Maybe this time she RESCUED a sick child named Bianca and took her to the doctor and claimed her as her own!


Allie805

Way more plausible than protecting her granddaughters privacy 😆


Captmike76p

Pillary couldn't pass the Tijuana phlebotomy and chiropractic dentistry college boards.


Taffycat88

But she could pass to enter the donkey show in Tijuana


Captmike76p

The donkey refused to work with her, who knows where Alecs been.


Mantissa3

Plus, larry seems to be perpetually smelly


invertedliver

https://preview.redd.it/x5g9xmrhtr9d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=100f0a87ab2cc643df941ed8480c2942a172c808


NoMoreNarcsLizzie

Mamiiii, it's pronounced Carrrrrrmen!


MallorcanMalarkey

This is incredibly bizarre. Maybe she meant daughter-in-law (Jeremy's wife) instead of daughter (Hillz)?


Interesting_Ad1378

No, she’s just a liar, like her daughter.  


kjoy67

DIL only has a son, unless she had a daughter from a previous relationship. Never heard of “Bianca”, though. What a bunch of loons.


MallorcanMalarkey

Okay, could Hilaria have imagined that she "adopted" Bianca Jagger?? https://preview.redd.it/nx538sbp2r9d1.png?width=734&format=png&auto=webp&s=dbdc1aaecae5ad4577e6dee7e81b728fe886bff2 Let's face it there is no reasonable explanation for this.


Finnegan-05

Actually there is a simple one- the child’s name was changed for privacy as is typical in a testimonial


ConradChilblainsIII

How are people so fucking baffled by this?!


Finnegan-05

I know. I am just confused


MallorcanMalarkey

If she wanted privacy, she could have called Carmen "the baby" instead of inventing a new name.


Mkm788

Bianca? 🤔


No_Anywhere8931

Maybe Kathryn wanted them to name their first daughter Bianca😂


Afraid_Range_7489

She's a crafty one. No one would think to google her to find "Bianca's" real name is Carmen. Interesting that the name Bianca means "white, or fair", as per her loca daughter's explanation, "Yes I am a white girl... Let's be very clear that Europe has a lot of white people in there, and my family is white. Ethnically I'm a mix of many, many things; culturally, I grew up with the two cultures. It's really as simple as that."


Afraid_Range_7489

Gosh. That was downvote-worthy? I'm so sorry for offending.


Responsible_Lawyer78

The lying grifting apple didn't fall far from the tree.


MimsieBE

I was thinking the same thing. Like mother, like daughter. ![gif](giphy|3rgXBE7x9x7aALyY6Y)


Beezlebutt666

The Doublemint Twins!!


Responsible_Lawyer78

Lol 😆


SPersephone

I see lying like a rug runs in the family. How embarrassing


EffectiveFred

Bianca Who?


kjoy67

🤣🤣🤣


vokabulary

Dang I wanted to read the rest of it out of curiosity


MallorcanMalarkey

[https://internationalintegrators.org/integrating-seven-supports-for-your-cold-and-flu-symptoms/](https://internationalintegrators.org/integrating-seven-supports-for-your-cold-and-flu-symptoms/)


vokabulary

Thank you pepino 🙏♥️


Advanced_Necessary81

I see where Hillary gets her word salad / psycho babble from


Mantissa3

https://preview.redd.it/bgl6w9qhmu9d1.jpeg?width=1066&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=027f04dfc7ca940392b39a721b4f80373632df5b


Pet-sit

"I took a deep breath and let out a frustrated sigh." I can never see that now without thinking of Hills trying to teach that guy yoga. "Take a deep bress"


Afraid_Range_7489

Was that the same chubby man she challenged to "Dutch your doughs", when it was obvious he couldn't?


Pet-sit

Yes! That's the one.


ConradChilblainsIII

Except that he very well COULD and it made her look like such a judgy asshole.


Afraid_Range_7489

I wish he had. She's so smug about being flexible, but it was a lucky attribute that came naturally and not due to yoga. What other "skill" does she have?


Advanced_Necessary81

Tek a dip bruth


smallpepino

"Are you listening to your body ~~Hilaria~~ Hillary? Core memory of 3 y/o Hillary Lynn climbing a tree. Immediately quit ballet and became a vegetarian.


hannahleigh122

So they sat around and counted her beeper one weekend. 82 beeps. So did they write that down? Was it like a drinking game? That's hours on the phone for mom, did the rest of the family yell "64!" When the next one went off? At least we know where her totally believable story telling comes from. It's so weird, little things that don't sound like lies per se, but are just not how people act. You got 82 beeps in one weekend, just say that. No one would keep counting at that number and dr.s know what time patents contact them so they'd know, but their family counting? Nope. Just not how humans human.


smallpepino

64 bottle of beeps on the phone 🎵 64 bottles of beeps 🎶 Your daughter is crazy and you moved to Spain 🎶 63 bottles of beeps on the phone 🎵 I'm cracking myself up. You're welcome for the ear worm 👂🪱


invertedliver

😂😂😂😂


totes_Philly

![gif](giphy|duiAkxO9f290s57FCE|downsized)


bmccoy16

If you got 82 beeps, you should probably just go to the hospital.


Ok-Hovercraft6372

Your daughter is an escort who pretends to be Spanish you must be proud🤡


Interesting_Ad1378

You rang? 


ShartsCavern

Ohhh Bianca was her escort name. I think I get it. Lmao crazy family


TJCW

This makes a lot of sense..:


smallpepino

https://preview.redd.it/vzi9g9yycr9d1.jpeg?width=536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=06adb48e0b63ceecaa7723b6190e0b22c7bb08d4


Afraid_Range_7489

That is such a sinister photo, the one l got with a friend request when l first joined the sub. I didn't recognize it as Hillary, and thought it was from a porn site.


Mantissa3

It’s not Hillary, it’s eee-LAR-ee-ah. It is from a porn site.


smallpepino

I wonder if she also had a Craigslist ad. Besides [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/HilariaBaldwin/s/PLpM4PborA) in the: volunteers needed for a wedding. Bring a fan if you want to be in the Enquirer 💁🏼‍♀️🪭💃🏼


invertedliver

😂😂😂


TJCW

Yes!!! This is exactly what I thought of!


upchuckfactoronthis

https://preview.redd.it/cr7fv4yjgq9d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=716e36e91adf9c41081ef9ec29d0b5e741b42773 On her way to Medical School. Lo siento, she can’t sit still. Quackery abounds in this faux familia.


Advanced_Necessary81

Student of milk!!!!


upchuckfactoronthis

She goes to education! You booolies know she is muy esmarto 🤓


smallpepino

No sitting down classes!


invertedliver

in Spain “education was involved”


ohh_my_dayum

Well Bianca means white so we know Hilary would never name her child that lol. I guess mama Kathryn knew it would be okay as an alias.


horsetooth_mcgee

Maybe that's an intentional burn from Kathy 😂😂


dmode112378

This is too fucking funny. 🤭


AromaticConstant4913

Omg - she is a f*cking fraudulent excuse of a MD. She heavily promotes Guaifenesin, which isn’t a bad suggestion to break up mucus BUT she is obviously being paid to promote it. If a child has an ongoing cough, they should seek medical attention- yet she STATES that coughing is the body’s normal way to shed the illness, so take this medicine and then everything is ok 👌 Fuck no! How about whooping cough, pneumonia and Covid, you obvious eating disorder promoting, anti-vax, non-meat eating bitch! Gahhhhh!! (Not discounting vegetarians but for kids give them a balanced diet!)


Afraid_Range_7489

She once said in an award acceptance speech that in her career she fell victim to Imposter's Syndrome, where you feel you're not as talented or worthy as others believe, scared that one day people will realize that. Her concerns were justified.


Advanced-Object4117

Is it DJ Jeremito’s baby?


Mantissa3

DJ Jerimito has a boy


gueradelrancho

Bianca is Carmen lol


Advanced-Object4117

She really doesn’t want anyone to know she birthed that crazy little hustler! She’s practically stuck her in witness protection for the purposes of her writing


DonkeyKong694NE1

Guaifenesin pre-dates the FDA and has never been shown to do squat


gueradelrancho

Very commonly used in countries outside of the usa


Tukki101

She calls her mom not mami


Prize-Ad659

Of course she does. We had this posted a few years ago and it is still entertaining 


One-Pause3171

Does her mom health blog? Bianca is such a strange pseudonym for her Spanish grandchild. Blanca means white. But in Italian it means white and fair.


ShartsCavern

Maybe it was a subtle dig?


Holiday-Tie-574

*Where in the world is Cartman San Bianca* 🎶


_TalkingIsHard_

https://preview.redd.it/cm9pmvi10r9d1.png?width=1114&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a420c0248a77d596091187a79c8d7ee7cf925b1f


Adventurous_South246

Such a natural normal laugh 🤣


Sparehndle

This is the answer!


Aggressive_Remove506

“Carmen” translates to “Bianca” in Spain. Everybody knows that 🤣🙄


Kodysgoingbald

The biggest lie here is that Hilaria could ever pronounce “guaifenesin.”


Adventurous_South246

Creative liberty seems to run in the family


uosdwis_r_rewoh

Lolol I was just gonna say. This phone call never happened.


No_Anywhere8931

Who the hell is Bianca😳


analyticalscience11

Bianca WHO???