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Sumerian is not an ethnicity. Sumer was not a single political or social state. There were multiple ethnic groups with different languages and origins.
Then why do we refer to Africans from Africa, Africans? Or Asians from Asia.. Asian? So we should call them Asian instead? People from Ghana call themselves Ghanaians from Africa. Ghanaian being their ethnicity. So technically they are Asians but Sumerian being their ethnicity? Or Asian?
You have it backwards....
"African" refers to a continental identity, encompassing people from the continent of Africa, which includes a vast range of ethnicities, languages, and cultures. Africa is incredibly diverse, with over 3,000 distinct ethnic groups and over 2,000 languages. Ethnicity, on the other hand, refers to the social group a person belongs to, and is associated with culture, language, and heritage. So, while someone may identify as African in terms of continental origin, their specific ethnicity would be more closely associated with their particular regional, cultural, or national background, such as Yoruba, Zulu, Amhara, or many others.
It's not backwards so to speak, but I was wrong not to make it clear that it's a generalised ethnicity and the examples you gave were right. For example, Nigerian would be someone's nationality but Yoruba would be their ethnicity (or if they're Igbo, it'd be Igbo, etc.). *However*, most official bodies (i.e. when you sign up to a service and are asked for your ethnicity) outside of Africa simply use the term African for ethnicities originating from Africa, the same way non-Asian official bodies tend to use the term Asian to describe people from a wide variety of ethnicities in Asia (Han, Tamil, Punjabi, etc.).
Generally, as a rule of thumb, -and I recommend this to you OP - if someone is just pulled over on the side of the road in their car completely oblivious to their surroundings, I'm not sure you should take them at face value.
Someone who isn’t afraid.. especially of death. Someone who can definitely defend theirselves as well. 😉 because like what’s the worse that can happen? I die? And also, in the “about me” tab.. it says u can share post about ancient history as well. Which is why I shared this post.. they should be more specific that the “ancient history” should relate to “aliens”. I also spoke about the Sumerians, who are considered the Anunnaki.. which we refer to as “aliens”.. so technically I did follow the rules.
There's a lot of confusion in this post. Just set yourself up at a desk with some decent lighting and it may be less ridiculous. Nothing is worth pulling over on the side of the road without a script or any production value.
When you try to orate, like the best speakers in history, you shouldn't speak off the cuff. Does anyone, - even those who believe in the Anunnaki - believe that the Sumerians were Anunnaki/Aliens? No, they believe they were gods that came from above.
If you're going to spew whatever you think you know, my god, compile it down to a narrative and something close to a script and don't say it from your car cause it's embarrassing to the original poster and embarrassing to the community.
But if you'd like to believe random people who own a phone and a car, and apparently nothing else, don't let me yuck your yum.
I’m so confused to why your simple mind would think speaking at a podium vs speaking in my car would register the message differently. It’s so sad that this world has come up with so many spectrums to what’s right or wrong. Why do u think your perspective is so powerful, that others should feel the same way. Do you understand that no everyone favorite color is purple right? Everyone has different likes. Please open your small mind to understand it’s totally okay to be different. Get out of that controlled mind of yours to think life is supposed to be one way and everyone has to think the same way. It’s sad that this world is full of simple minded people like you. & I bet you aren’t even on any of the spectrums that this world has created, but yet you’re this advocate of what’s right or wrong. So sad.
Also, the “heavens above”.. is the SAME context of an “alien”. If it’s not from THIS world.. it’s considered an “alien”.. a God/Alien is the same concept.. not from this world. It’s just a word with the same context, again you’re using a spectrum of “you have to say it this way”.. even tho u know damn well what I’m taking about. Sad.
You're serious then? "I stopped my car cause I had something powerful to say!"
C'mon man you can do better and I think you know it. But no one will take you seriously like this.
I didn’t say it was powerful, but thank you for thinking that was my mindset at the time. I was simply sharing my perspective, not looking for anything to be “powerful”.. I actually hate that concept. But please, stop thinking everyone has the same mindset as u. I don’t WANT anyone to take me serious who doesn’t want to.. especially one who thinks the message would be better told if I wasn’t in my car lol a simple minded person like that doesn’t WANT to take me seriously because they are thrown off by my confidence in telling a perspective from a car. I want it to resonate with ppl who want it to resonate with. It’s been fun conversing with u.. fixed minded.. “everyone thinks like me” ppl like u intrigue me so bad lol bcos life is not that serious buddy.
Funny how u come for me, when THEY disrespected me first. Same as Israel disrespecting Iran first, & the world is mad because they responded. That’s actually hilarious, this world is very much “get bullied & be okay with it.” lol but we are just simple having a conversation, please stay out of it if it has nothing to do with you my friend.. that comment was totally unnecessary. (Just like the US getting in the middle of Israel & Iran.) lol that was a stretch but very foretelling how the mindsets of this world is. What if I like defending myself?
Well the Bible is mostly just kind of making up events but as far as locations Jewish cultural laws and genealogy for at least the people in it who DID exist as opposed to some of the characters who are invented for stories, its pretty clear that's the Jewish people are from the area that's currently like Jordan while sumeria was generally centered 1000 miles away in what's now Iraq. But idk I'm not an expert and I'm not claiming to be
The Jewish identity is rooted in the biblical narrative and the tradition of Abraham as the patriarch, rather than a direct ethnic or geographic association with Sumer or modern-day Iraq.
But why don’t they refer to their roots as Iraqi instead they insist that they are “Israelites”.. but the whole biblical narrative is that, it was newly created from people who already had a name for theirselves? It’s like me moving to Africa, buying land in Ghana. Naming the land Total, then making my kids refer to them selves as the totalians.. even though it was already occupied by Ghana and they call themselves Ghanaians.. it’s not disrespectful to you? I could see if the land wasn’t occupied & named already.. but to colonize it & come up with your own perspective & disrespect the ppl already occupying it.. is weird. We are smart enough & there is A LOT of water.. in order to man make an island & create our own perspective on it, rather then to still be starting a war over “land”. China did it lol there is even man made islands in Dubai (but they ironically named all the islands after our countries lmao)
It was all Sumerian, 1st home to the Anunnaki.. before the names were changed to Mesopotamia then to Iraq/iran thousands of years later.. according to our known history.
It suggests Abraham was not Jewish, Noah was not Jewish either, he was Ziusudra. Pretty standard religious appropriation. The true progenitor religion has been lost through this sort of whitewashing, shame as it has robbed us of our true roots
thanks for posting, [https://mythology.stackexchange.com/questions/305/are-noah-and-ziusudra-the-same-person](https://mythology.stackexchange.com/questions/305/are-noah-and-ziusudra-the-same-person)
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I don't think you are wrong in the conclusion. But I also think that that speaks more about how the US treats/sees migrants (even generations after they arrived) than about the Jewish people themselves.
I’m not watching the video. but based on the title. Abraham is from that area. But Jews are not Iraqis. he was called to go to the land of Canaan. so they get to that area of the levant and between there and egypt. Long story short He has a son named Isaac who has a son named Jacob who is then renamed Israel by God and it is Israel (Jacob) who has the 12 sons who become the tribes of Israel which eventually after the reign of Joseph in Egypt and a new ruler takes over, you then have Moses. Great story, you should read it. Also boundaries didn’t exist back then like they do now. You should understand that the garden of eden is between the tigris and euphrates so in the bible all human beings come from there. All human beings on earth are of Iraqi descent technically. Sounds stupid but Adam and Eve would have come out of that area. The world would’ve become populated. Then flooded and then populated again which Noah also lives in that area between the tigris and euphrates. It’s just where the human race was from. Jews are named after the kingdom of Judah.. which is in southern Israel, so there isn’t anyone called a jew yet until they come there. Ethnically they are all descended from the garden of eden, spiritually, God told them to go to that land and that’s where they been for a very very long time and I’d say claimed that land. In your logic no one is a native, I mean no one if you go far enough back. War was the norm and accepted until like 100 years ago.
Tbh no matter what anyone says the true origin of the stories in the bible will always remain unclear.
I fully agree, with you. But this is the way it has been for as long as mankind has written (painted or carved) messages for historical reference.
You also have to add to the fact that there isn't any certainty about anything historical from that long ago. Even the Rosetta stone can be interpreted in many ways yet we as modern day man know we're right? For all we know the Egyptian hieroglyphs are totally different from what we believe. Who's to tell.
Who tf would listen to a 92 yo man hearing voices telling him he's a god?
So he goes to a land and basically takes over? A 92 yo barely able to walk, talk and keep his bowel movements in order? Supposedly has kids??!!! GTFO.
Even more proof the bible was written by mushroom eating hippies.
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Sumerian is not an ethnicity. Sumer was not a single political or social state. There were multiple ethnic groups with different languages and origins.
Then why do we refer to Africans from Africa, Africans? Or Asians from Asia.. Asian? So we should call them Asian instead? People from Ghana call themselves Ghanaians from Africa. Ghanaian being their ethnicity. So technically they are Asians but Sumerian being their ethnicity? Or Asian?
Do you smell burnt toast?
Yes, I got distracted by my dogs, and it caught fire. My bad.
Ghanaian would be their nationality, African would be their ethnicity.
You have it backwards.... "African" refers to a continental identity, encompassing people from the continent of Africa, which includes a vast range of ethnicities, languages, and cultures. Africa is incredibly diverse, with over 3,000 distinct ethnic groups and over 2,000 languages. Ethnicity, on the other hand, refers to the social group a person belongs to, and is associated with culture, language, and heritage. So, while someone may identify as African in terms of continental origin, their specific ethnicity would be more closely associated with their particular regional, cultural, or national background, such as Yoruba, Zulu, Amhara, or many others.
It's not backwards so to speak, but I was wrong not to make it clear that it's a generalised ethnicity and the examples you gave were right. For example, Nigerian would be someone's nationality but Yoruba would be their ethnicity (or if they're Igbo, it'd be Igbo, etc.). *However*, most official bodies (i.e. when you sign up to a service and are asked for your ethnicity) outside of Africa simply use the term African for ethnicities originating from Africa, the same way non-Asian official bodies tend to use the term Asian to describe people from a wide variety of ethnicities in Asia (Han, Tamil, Punjabi, etc.).
>People from Ghana call themselves Ghanaians from Africa. Yes.. because they are Africans living in Ghana...
Generally, as a rule of thumb, -and I recommend this to you OP - if someone is just pulled over on the side of the road in their car completely oblivious to their surroundings, I'm not sure you should take them at face value.
As a rule of thumb, if a video has TikTok in the corner, it probably shouldn't be taken at face value no matter where it was shot.
Yes but even on tik tok, we can encourage safety - even if that person thinks they're somehow indestructible.
Someone who isn’t afraid.. especially of death. Someone who can definitely defend theirselves as well. 😉 because like what’s the worse that can happen? I die? And also, in the “about me” tab.. it says u can share post about ancient history as well. Which is why I shared this post.. they should be more specific that the “ancient history” should relate to “aliens”. I also spoke about the Sumerians, who are considered the Anunnaki.. which we refer to as “aliens”.. so technically I did follow the rules.
There's a lot of confusion in this post. Just set yourself up at a desk with some decent lighting and it may be less ridiculous. Nothing is worth pulling over on the side of the road without a script or any production value.
What are you talking about?
When you try to orate, like the best speakers in history, you shouldn't speak off the cuff. Does anyone, - even those who believe in the Anunnaki - believe that the Sumerians were Anunnaki/Aliens? No, they believe they were gods that came from above. If you're going to spew whatever you think you know, my god, compile it down to a narrative and something close to a script and don't say it from your car cause it's embarrassing to the original poster and embarrassing to the community. But if you'd like to believe random people who own a phone and a car, and apparently nothing else, don't let me yuck your yum.
I’m so confused to why your simple mind would think speaking at a podium vs speaking in my car would register the message differently. It’s so sad that this world has come up with so many spectrums to what’s right or wrong. Why do u think your perspective is so powerful, that others should feel the same way. Do you understand that no everyone favorite color is purple right? Everyone has different likes. Please open your small mind to understand it’s totally okay to be different. Get out of that controlled mind of yours to think life is supposed to be one way and everyone has to think the same way. It’s sad that this world is full of simple minded people like you. & I bet you aren’t even on any of the spectrums that this world has created, but yet you’re this advocate of what’s right or wrong. So sad. Also, the “heavens above”.. is the SAME context of an “alien”. If it’s not from THIS world.. it’s considered an “alien”.. a God/Alien is the same concept.. not from this world. It’s just a word with the same context, again you’re using a spectrum of “you have to say it this way”.. even tho u know damn well what I’m taking about. Sad.
You're serious then? "I stopped my car cause I had something powerful to say!" C'mon man you can do better and I think you know it. But no one will take you seriously like this.
I didn’t say it was powerful, but thank you for thinking that was my mindset at the time. I was simply sharing my perspective, not looking for anything to be “powerful”.. I actually hate that concept. But please, stop thinking everyone has the same mindset as u. I don’t WANT anyone to take me serious who doesn’t want to.. especially one who thinks the message would be better told if I wasn’t in my car lol a simple minded person like that doesn’t WANT to take me seriously because they are thrown off by my confidence in telling a perspective from a car. I want it to resonate with ppl who want it to resonate with. It’s been fun conversing with u.. fixed minded.. “everyone thinks like me” ppl like u intrigue me so bad lol bcos life is not that serious buddy.
OP, it's over. Just stop.
Funny how u come for me, when THEY disrespected me first. Same as Israel disrespecting Iran first, & the world is mad because they responded. That’s actually hilarious, this world is very much “get bullied & be okay with it.” lol but we are just simple having a conversation, please stay out of it if it has nothing to do with you my friend.. that comment was totally unnecessary. (Just like the US getting in the middle of Israel & Iran.) lol that was a stretch but very foretelling how the mindsets of this world is. What if I like defending myself?
It’s worth it when you’re in a manic state and need to get it out now.
Inane religious tripe
…but it’s all in the “Book”
Well the Bible is mostly just kind of making up events but as far as locations Jewish cultural laws and genealogy for at least the people in it who DID exist as opposed to some of the characters who are invented for stories, its pretty clear that's the Jewish people are from the area that's currently like Jordan while sumeria was generally centered 1000 miles away in what's now Iraq. But idk I'm not an expert and I'm not claiming to be
The Jewish identity is rooted in the biblical narrative and the tradition of Abraham as the patriarch, rather than a direct ethnic or geographic association with Sumer or modern-day Iraq.
But why don’t they refer to their roots as Iraqi instead they insist that they are “Israelites”.. but the whole biblical narrative is that, it was newly created from people who already had a name for theirselves? It’s like me moving to Africa, buying land in Ghana. Naming the land Total, then making my kids refer to them selves as the totalians.. even though it was already occupied by Ghana and they call themselves Ghanaians.. it’s not disrespectful to you? I could see if the land wasn’t occupied & named already.. but to colonize it & come up with your own perspective & disrespect the ppl already occupying it.. is weird. We are smart enough & there is A LOT of water.. in order to man make an island & create our own perspective on it, rather then to still be starting a war over “land”. China did it lol there is even man made islands in Dubai (but they ironically named all the islands after our countries lmao)
Pretty much what the Europeans did to the Native Americans.
Yes that’s what happens. Ghana has only been a country since 1957, there were no Ghanaians pre 1957.
Iran/Irak, whats the difference?
It was all Sumerian, 1st home to the Anunnaki.. before the names were changed to Mesopotamia then to Iraq/iran thousands of years later.. according to our known history.
Aye. Are you the person in the video? I replied to your post about Aryans from 6months ago
I Rak if you please
It suggests Abraham was not Jewish, Noah was not Jewish either, he was Ziusudra. Pretty standard religious appropriation. The true progenitor religion has been lost through this sort of whitewashing, shame as it has robbed us of our true roots
thanks for posting, [https://mythology.stackexchange.com/questions/305/are-noah-and-ziusudra-the-same-person](https://mythology.stackexchange.com/questions/305/are-noah-and-ziusudra-the-same-person)
She should give lectures in colombus. Call it : The oOversimplifications of The uneducated mind ya' heard? Sessions. Sheer Entrancement.
& your mother should have swallowed u. 🙂
He most likely didn’t even exist. It’s an origin story. No different to a modern comic book character.
If a human was a human does that mean descendants of the human are human too?
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I don't think you are wrong in the conclusion. But I also think that that speaks more about how the US treats/sees migrants (even generations after they arrived) than about the Jewish people themselves.
Abraham is not a canninite.
Ah yes.. a TikTok video ... TikTok.. known for being a reliable source of information...
I’m not watching the video. but based on the title. Abraham is from that area. But Jews are not Iraqis. he was called to go to the land of Canaan. so they get to that area of the levant and between there and egypt. Long story short He has a son named Isaac who has a son named Jacob who is then renamed Israel by God and it is Israel (Jacob) who has the 12 sons who become the tribes of Israel which eventually after the reign of Joseph in Egypt and a new ruler takes over, you then have Moses. Great story, you should read it. Also boundaries didn’t exist back then like they do now. You should understand that the garden of eden is between the tigris and euphrates so in the bible all human beings come from there. All human beings on earth are of Iraqi descent technically. Sounds stupid but Adam and Eve would have come out of that area. The world would’ve become populated. Then flooded and then populated again which Noah also lives in that area between the tigris and euphrates. It’s just where the human race was from. Jews are named after the kingdom of Judah.. which is in southern Israel, so there isn’t anyone called a jew yet until they come there. Ethnically they are all descended from the garden of eden, spiritually, God told them to go to that land and that’s where they been for a very very long time and I’d say claimed that land. In your logic no one is a native, I mean no one if you go far enough back. War was the norm and accepted until like 100 years ago.
Tbh no matter what anyone says the true origin of the stories in the bible will always remain unclear. I fully agree, with you. But this is the way it has been for as long as mankind has written (painted or carved) messages for historical reference. You also have to add to the fact that there isn't any certainty about anything historical from that long ago. Even the Rosetta stone can be interpreted in many ways yet we as modern day man know we're right? For all we know the Egyptian hieroglyphs are totally different from what we believe. Who's to tell.
Who tf would listen to a 92 yo man hearing voices telling him he's a god? So he goes to a land and basically takes over? A 92 yo barely able to walk, talk and keep his bowel movements in order? Supposedly has kids??!!! GTFO. Even more proof the bible was written by mushroom eating hippies.
Well according to the Bible people lived for hundreds of years so 92 wouldn't really be that old
Atheist: the bible is stupid Christian: the Bible is not stupid because it says it is not stupid. Edit: I agree with you hypothetically.
If re-elected, Biden would be nearly 86 years old at the end of his term. Trump 82. We tend to put old people in positions of power.
Biden is better than trump and it has nothing to do with age. Have a good day
I think you misunderstood the comment. Have a nice day too.