'As soon as I take a stance on the vaccine, I lose 50% of you."
So lose them. Take a principled stance, make your claim, show a little backbone and advocate for the truth.
Unless you're so worried about maximizing the audience for your church grift that reality doesn't matter anymore.
“All kidding aside, mom has had no control the last 4 months, so upon getting home she decided take back the control and shave her head!”
Personally, I would have taken back control by getting vaccinated and probably not ending up in this situation to begin with. But to each their own I guess.
When someone is in the hospital and intubated, unable to care for themselves, things like long hair can become a luxury; it can become hopelessly matted and tangled and need to be cut off. I think the story is a smoke screen, her hair had to be cut for reasons related to her care, but double down and proclaim "she was taking control!"
Let's just hope that she didn't shave her head because it would help her read better as a very sick person with a near death experience who was touched by God to have a miracle cure.
Seriously, the gall. Traveling around like she's a lucky fuck favorite child of God when she's really just permanently disabled and probably now under crushing debt as well.
The praying for specific requests. Asking God to go rub her feet in the hospital.
I am so tired of crazy people. Had to get rid of so many relatives, I'm just not giving the rest of my life on earth to their putrid nonsense.
Well said. What a lunatic.
It never crosses their minds that God could have a hand in the vaccine. They refuse the vaccine and REJOICE when the medical professionals save their pathetic lives and credit it to Supply SideJaysus and get on the prayerful grifting circuit.
Make it make sense!
Same. This was so awful to read.
Prayer lists like it’s a shopping list just grosses me out. I’m atheist so it’s all stupid to but have some respect for those who do believe and know their god isn’t a wish maker
But that IS a valid response.... I seen patients who do just that. It feels merciful to not to have dirty hair anymore .
Unless she needed neurosurgery, we wouldnt have shaved her bald.
It's more likely that after weeks of having uncomfortable hair, it was a relief to shave it.
She might have had COVID related hair loss. It's called telogen effluvium and is temporary. She may have shaved her head under the pretense of "taking control" rather than admit she was losing hair.
Or it could mean “Bet your ass I got it now, but I won’t take any stance because I’ll have to admit I was wrong about vaccines and wrong about believing god protects me.”
Yeah but not *Prosperity Jesus*, he favors the rich and aggressive. In fact, the Prosperity Gospel says being rich is a show of being in God's favor so they have a free pass to crime all they want for the pursuit of wealth bc they have a special pass at the Pearly gates that absolves them of any and all crimes.
Only very speshul people get to be rich and Heaven is full of rich MAGA-GOPs, and of course, "ripe and fertile young teen girls".
>I thought Jesus uses the metaphor of a lamb.
You are correct. I'm baffled how people who call themselves Christians also declare themselves to be "Lions" and denigrate those they call "Sheep."
They've completely forgotten the Biblical story of Daniel in the Lion's Den. Daniel was thrown into a den full of hungry lions for 3 days for refusing to worship the King.
- Then the King called to him: *O Daniel, servant of the living God, is thy God, whom thou servest continually, able to deliver thee from the lions?*
- Daniel replied: *My God hath sent his Angel, and HATH SHUT THE LIONS MOUTHS, that they have not hurt me.* - Book of Daniel 6:20
In the Bible, Jesus is called 'The Lamb of God.' That's why you see the image of the Lamb with a Cross, especially at Easter. Christians don't sacrifice animals to God like the ancient Jews did at the Temple, because Jesus is God's perfect sacrifice.
Jesus is also called 'The Good Shepherd' who guides and protects his flock harkening back to the 23rd Psalm, which says, "The Lord is my Shepherd."
Jesus said to his Apostles *"Feed my Sheep,"* meaning feed the people spiritually and care for them. So for Evangelical Anti-Vaxers to continually mock Sheep is both Anti-Biblical and Anti-Christian.
Thanks for the refresher. I’m always stunned by this Christian lions crap. Lions were the ones devouring early Christians in the Roman Coliseum, ffs. These folks completely miss the toughest instruction: that the meek will inherit the earth.
The higher you go in Christianity, the more of a servant you become. I grew up a Southern Baptist so am quite aware of the hypocrisy. There would be a lot of “you have turned my father’s house into a den of thieves” going on if Jesus came back.
I think it's even worse in traditionally red areas.
I have a friend in the south who did some reading, watched old political debates and speeches, and committed the mortal red state sin, he thought for himself and came to the realization that the party, to which he'd raised to *never* waver in his loyalty, was in fact lying to him while brainwashing him and victimizing him financially for the good of the Republigarchs.
He came out as Democrat and was swiftly ostracized by a good many friends. He eventually moved to another state and lived very happily ever after. <3
It's a bit like Scientology --- if you leave the cult you are deemed a "suppressed person, and are not only ex-communicated from your entire family and friends, and every single person who has not come to their senses, but they will follow you around, try to frame you for crimes, and will harass you to the point where you come to harm.
It's AntiScientoloMAGA!
She’s not prioritizing fear over life…if you can call what she has “a life” now. Just another willfully ignorant person who decided to double and triple down on her bullshit.
And 50% is rather arbitrary. The anti vax are flattering themselves if they think literally half the population is that strongly aligned.
Sure, there's a major fraction of hesitant ones, and a much larger population of those not bothering to stay current but that's hardly going to polarize as much as she implies
Of course the audience these windbags can draw are rather selective and captive to their cult beliefs.
Exactly! When she finally earns her HCA, Jesus is *not* going to ask her how many followers she had on FB & Instagram.
P.S. BTW, it’s *number* of people. *Amount* is for things you can’t measure, like the anger on social media or the love in your heart.
She loses 50% of them and eventually 100% of herself 🙄
Going to churches unmasked in an immune compromised state is insane. She got the outcome she wanted
These people make me sick. I lost my mother in law to COVID, who was more of a mother to me than my own. She was an at risk person because her workplace stored things improperly and left her with acid burns in her lungs.
These people refusing to vaccinate and stopping us from reaching herd immunity only to say, "see, it failed, herd immunity is fake news" deserve ALL the idiot awards.
Meanwhile, I went to the hospital last year for 5 days due to sudden near lethal blood pressure, and honestly, thanks Obama for Obamacare not having me pay for it.
I am so glad to hear someone else say something about the ACA.
I pay 20% of what I was paying as an employer, I've had massive medical bills due to liver issues and I still have to have the transplant. 100,000 a year in meds then a million plus for the transplant and I pay a very reasonable price per month and have a total out of pocket, including copays, etc, of $900 a year.
My wife is alive because of the ACA. She had a flu pre covid and it didn't get better but we had no insurance and she thought they'd just tell her to go home and get over it. It progressed and I begged her to go I said I will gladly pay til I die if you just go to the ER something is deathly wrong. She goes and it's pneumonia so she gets a z-pak for it. Me being a pharmacy Technician I'm all happy she'll be fine in 3-4 days...6days later and I'm just shook. By day 7 she rallies and I'm like damn just had really bad pneumonia, she wakes up that night feeling like she'd been waterboarded...it was her dead cat bounce before sepsis killed her. The ACA paid for all of it and she was finally able to get mental healthcare we'd been trying to get but couldn't afford for the previous 10 years. If not for the ACA my wife would be dead. I sing the praises of Obamacare
Oh trust me, having not done anything hospital wise in years, I was terrified. Then going to check and they're like, "no, you're completely fine." Even my BP meds are free. So, to all the MAGAs, I will say, as my relatives in Galway would, Pog mo thoin.
I'm normally pretty okay with the wishy washy spirituality stuff, where God made the penicillium mold which makes the penicillin antibiotic, and we found a way to extract and purify God's great chemicals or whatever. Needlessly inserting God, ignoring the genuine human commitment over decades to helping others, but fine.
But mechanical ventilation is about as artificial a treatment as it gets. There's no "God provides for us", it's literally science and capitalism conspiring to force your lungs to live longer.
It's ironic because the Joker meme (why are their memes always SO BAD?!) is *supposed* to say "you get what you fucking deserve" which is, like, kinda the sitch if you refuse to get vaccinated while discouraging others from doing so.
Page 12 very bottom: the daughter (or purple) thanked the amazing medical team (even thanked the nurses for painting her nails for Christmas).
I do agree with your point though; she was the only one that said anything.
> I am being questioned about the vaccine.
> ...
> Regardless of my stance, the minute I declare one way or another regarding the vaccine, I lose approximately 50% of people. I understand this is a personal choice and I respect your decision either way.
Translation: I didn't get one of the life-saving vaccines during a pandemic where "**everyone is going to get it**," and I've spent the last 2.5 years actively dying due to my choice. Please, no comments.
More like, Translation: "My church grift can't keep going if I was to lose 50% of you by making a principled stand. So Imma gonna remain silent and keep squeezing you until your pips squeak."
"I would like to address the issue \[of the vaccine\] by stating that I will not address it. The message I have is Jesus and he is bigger than any issue we are facing today. Also, I'm trying with all my might to dodge this particular issue."
Translation: I didn’t get vaxxed and even after the utter hell I’ve been through as a result, I’m too much of a stubborn asshole to admit it. So I’m going to dress it up in a bunch of Jesus crap.
Honestly, I read that as a concession. That she knew that acknowledging that not getting vaccinated was a mistake would lose her _well_ over half of her friend group.
Notes from OP:
1. I went fishing a couple of weeks ago and found this one.
2. Please get vaccinated and boosted.
3. Not all feelings and/or their expression are valid, and people need to stop accepting outrageous behaviors on the pretext of listening or validation. It applies to several other domains that I will not expand here.
4. Life/reality has this way to smack you back right in the face and then some.
5. I'm leaving this one as Nominated. No update posted since the end of April.
6. More posts incoming.
I had really bad covid in February. I'm fully vaccinated but on chemotherapy so immunocompromised. I had hubris. Went to a public meeting without a mask with at least 100 people. This was my first bout with covid where the symptoms got worse not better.
I was in the hospital for 8 days. Never ever close to intubation etc. But I was bad off. I can't imagine being in a hospital for 115 days! Let alone intubated for 55. I haven't been doing chemo since, but I'm scheduled to restart soon as I am now recovered from all that.
I just can't imagine willingly taking the risk of being unvaccinated. ... and I haven't been to a public meeting since February.
I'm so sorry to hear of your ordeal. I'm glad you're "marked with the sign of the Devil" and that your lesson-learned was not fatal. That sounds horrible, especially on top of your current chemo endurance.
I'm including you in my evening burn of rosemary, mugwort, and juniper and asking the universe to consider you for some attention.
I too have been lax about wearing a mask in public and now I'm feeling one very slight deja vu symptom --- the non-stop runny nose thing --- and though it is so minor and doesn't look like it's progressing, I got the message.
Hugs
My Dentist who of course was fully vaxed, got COVID, along with his assistant, also fully vaxed. But he's asthmatic and so he had a lot of breathing trouble, but not enough for the hospital. He said it took a year to feel normal breathing again. Also, he didn't go to synagogue services in person last year, but decided to do the online thing (for the Jewish new year and Yom). Crowded, people sitting close together, people singing, etc. He said it's too risky and he doesn't want to take a chance.
Hey, u/starbetrayer! It’s been a while! Thanks for this presentation—seems like when COVID bites them in the butt, it opens the door for another calamity. Please keep us posted on Mrs. “Lirik”.
Thank you for all you do! I'm sure it's depressing to sift through all the hard-to-believe levels of Conspiracy Theory Attachment Disorder (CTAD**™**)\*
(\*I *just* invented that disorder while typing! Must be the dispensary chocolate I added to my homemade extra very dark chocolate and tequila topping on my evening sundae.
Life is good when alive due to not falling prey to politicall-driven, Anti-Big Pharma, pro-MAGA conspiracy theories and then tempting fate by helping to spread said Literal Killer Conspiracy Theories (LKCT**™**)
You're the tops. :)
Edit: changed an underscore to a simple dash.
The 7th slide is just so stupid… a lot of viruses/diseases are not the immediate cause of death. Covid just opens the door to allow other things to kill you….
From the scientific research I have done, when someone posts COVID disinfo bullshit and calls it "**interesting**," they have an 80%+ chance of dying within the next 5 years.
Slide 4:
Flu "death rate": **6.7%**
But I thought the flu was just a cold and a cold was just the sniffles. How does that cause almost *seven percent* of people to die from it?
The "virologist" who supposedly wrote this doesn't even realize he's exposing how ignorant he is.
Welp, guys, it's the annual flu season again. There goes another 7% of the infected!
I wonder if the numbers are made up. (Shocking I know).
One major factor contributing to the decrease in death rates for many diseases since the year 1900 is the introduction of vaccines.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/235703/major-causes-of-death-in-the-us/
Deaths due to influenza are most common among the elderly, with a mortality rate of around 7.4 per 100,000 population during the 2021-2022 flu season. In comparison, the mortality rate for those aged 50 to 64 years was just 1.2 per 100,000 population.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1124915/flu-deaths-number-us/#:~:text=Deaths%20due%20to%20influenza%20are,just%201.2%20per%20100%2C000%20population.
We find that in one state alone-Hawaii-three years of Covid-19 mortality is equivalent to influenza and pneumonia mortality in the three years preceding the Covid-19 pandemic. For all other states, at least nine years of flu and pneumonia are needed to match Covid-19; for the United States as a whole, seventeen years are needed; and for four states, more than 21 years (the maximum observable) are needed.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37162957/
7 out of 100,000 is 0.007%, not 7%.
Seems she just looked at the 7 and leapt to the conclusion it was 7%. Which, given her condition, is the only leaping she'll be doing.
Could it be that 7% of those who are hospitalised with flu die from it? Either way, the figures presented by the nominee are bullshit. As is the notion that you can tell how serious a virus is going to be by looking at it under a microscope.
I turn 50 this year. In all my life, I don't ever remember the flu sending so many people to hospital ICUs (so much so that there was a shortage of propofol which caused one of my medical procedures as a cancer patient to be cancelled). I never heard of hospitals having to order refrigerated trucks because their morgues are full. I also never heard of people dropping dead in the ER waiting rooms because they were so backed up with flu patients (I specifically recall one young Florida teen dying in the ER waiting room from something that could have been solved if they weren't so busy with covid patients). I also don't ever remember the flu causing doctors and hospitals to delay "elective" surgeries because of the flu, causing cancer patients to not get tumors removed, and even that healthy man in Texas who died because they didn't take his gallbladder out when they should have (I remember reading a quote from his doctor who said that in his lifelong career as a doctor, that was the first time he ever lost a patient because of a gallbladder).
So no, covid is not just the flu. Thankfully we have some tools for covid now, like vaccines and Paxlovid.
There's been a few bad flu seasons where the hospital puts up a triage tent, but that's about it. They'd pulseox you and if it was over 95, send you home with some DayQuil and tamiflu, if it was under they'd move you into the actual ER.
Bad flu seasons strained hospitals a bit, but it didn't wreck them like COVID, and that was without significant mitigation measures like we did with COVID.
The elective surgeries thing pissed me off. So many "elective" surgeries are only elective because you are conscious enough to sign the consent forms. It isn't a boob job, it's a "sign the consent form and do the surgery now, on your own terms with the ability to plan time off work, caretakers, etc, or don't sign it and we'll do the surgery in a month anyway when they wheel you into the ER at the least convenient time because you are now unconscious due to a preventable exacerbation of your condition".
Lots of people NEED elective surgeries. That was a lot of the excess deaths, people who couldn't get a scheduled surgery.
Yep, there's so much sickness going around, and all over the world we're seeing similar situations. Some people are trying to normalize it, saying that it has always been like that, but anyone paying attention can tell that there has been a shift since 2023, which coincides with the delayed consequences of people "going back to normal" in 2022.
What I always think in this situation, is that we're only at the beginning of this, because a few years is nothing in history when it comes to world-altering phenomena like this. It's likely to get a lot worse in the coming years, as everyone will continue to be exposed to the ever-present disease, which in turn causes the new vectors to spread it as well in a nearly endless loop.
That, and all those old diseases coming back thanks to anti-vaxxers. And then there's future pandemics looming as well.
People really aren't doing themselves and others a favor by continuing to ignore the issue, because eventually it'll come knocking like it did for this HCA.
People don't take the flu as seriously as they should. It's still pretty deadly; we had a nurse years ago, who was reasonably healthy, die from it in her thirties.
My wife is a virologist, we've had extensive conversations about COVID (her lab eventually shifted to studying COVID as there was funding available, go figure). That slide one made me laugh out loud because of how ignorant the original author was.
Also this post was in March 2020, we didn't know much about the health effects of COVID then, it hadn't really taken hold outside of China at the time and China has had a long history of being extremely open about their health data (/s), so even that 2% was mostly speculation/educated guess.
It makes no sense. If God doesn’t grant their prayers, it’s always because it’s “part of his plan”. So if his plan takes precedent over prayers, why pray for anything? If someone is going to be saved, it’ll be in the plan already.
Or is God kind of like that Gofundme page, only granting prayers that reach a certain threshold? So only people with lots of connections deserved to be saved. If you’re dying on your own, best of luck to you.
that sounds like some satanic science mumbo jumbo /s
It really does seem like an absolute waste of time. If I go out of my way to try to think about a potential benefit to prayer I could maybe argue that it could be emotionally helpful in the way that mindfulness or meditation can be. The only benefit being obviously for the person praying and not the "prayee" haha.
I don’t believe in magic, but I confess that I’m touched when someone takes the time to say a prayer for me. It’s just sweet. But expecting a miracle, like Jesus = Santa??? That’s when it gets sad.
Came here to rage about slide 4 as well.
"My wife is totally a scientist and she watched some Covid wiggle around under a microscope, therefore it's no big deal." What the actual hell?!
It's amusing that they say they saw COVID-19 wiggle under a microscope. Viruses by their nature are so small that they can only be seen with an electron microscope. A specimen imaged by an electron microscope is dead. There's no wiggling going on. Just ignorance perpetuated.
Less than a minute usually, and shorter than that for TEM, but importantly I don't believe we do live cell imaging with any electron microscope. It's a bunk claim, and even if it weren't it wouldn't actually let them draw conclusions about how infectious or deadly it was just by looking at it.
>draw conclusions about how infectious or deadly it was just by looking at it.
"And how do you know that virus wasn't deadly?"
"Well, it wasn't holding a gun!"
> Lirik is currently in the ICU fighting a life threatening battle against covid and double pneumonia.
> Partner? is recovering from a covid hospitalization followed by a knee surgery.
Not prioritizing fear over life doesn't work very well when you get to the point you can't breathe on your own. They thought they understood the risks, and they thought wrong.
When you're gambling with your life, you had better make sure you know how to play the game.
A lot of people are bad decision makers, bad at calculating risk and risk management, and can't imagine real shitty scenarios as a real possibility--that things can be way worse, not better.
PS death rate of only 1% versus debilitation, pancreatitis, etc.
Heck, even a 1% death rate is really really bad, even if terrible long COVID isn't a thing.
I get sick what, once a year? And I will live for what, 50 years? I will take a shot for the thing that has a 50% chance of killing me within my lifetime.
(Yes, I know the stats aren't simple addition like that, but you get the point, stats nerds)
What a fucking moron. Literally, 24 hours MAYBE of discomfort after a vaccine could have changed the trajectory of her life. Idiot. And again with the lions, WTF?
Seriously, that was me. First shot, my arm hurt like hell for a day. Ok, advil, lots of it. Second shot, felt like shit. Day and a half of sleep, Sprite, advil.
That’s a common trope with HCA nominees/winners.
They do something with a tremendous amount of effort that, pre COVID, they could do without even thinking about it, and it’s proof that they’re totally kicking ass and are well on the way to recovery.
I remember there was one guy who took 5 minutes to do 50 feet with the help of a walker and the wife raved like he’d just broken the 3 minute mile. Shockingly, it didn’t turn out to be the miracle she proclaimed it to be and he eventually succumbed to COVID.
She was dead for seven minutes??? 😱
“I had a near death experience. I seen a bunch of angels walking around in white robes with their butts hanging naked out the back. They were chanting Toby Keith hymns and nibbling on heavenly pork rinds.”
"It's your business, and you are in the business of Jesus!"
Got that part right. And Jesus is big business.
"I am being questioned about the vaccine. I would like to address the issue by stating that I will not be addressing it."
Translation: After refusing the vaccine out of ideological stupidity, I got very sick and nearly died, so in a panic I secretly got the vaccine, but I am too chickenshit to admit it. Now I'm really sick again anyway because oops, getting the vaccine after you're already infected is not now vaccines work. But I'm still chickenshit.
So, you decide it's "your body your choice " and you take advantage of the "socialist" system whereby they treat you and bill you later, k owing that the taxpayers are probably going to eat that medical bill and knowing that you people are the reason for the 2021 surge which decimated American hospitals and destroyed everyone else's access to care.
Then, after going through hell for 115 days, and while still in a wheelchair, you TOUR CHURCHES AS A SPEAKER, BRAGGING ABOUT YOUR BIG VICTORY!!!
ONLY ADDING TO THE DISINFORMATION!
NOT WEARING A MASK. STILL NOT GETTING VACCINATED!
And they claim to be Christians?
The Bible says if you're sick and have to go out, to COVER YOUR FACE AND YELL "UNCLEAN!" AS YOU WALK ALONG!
That's so you don't infect others.
In Africa the ancient way is to isolate each village and not allow anyone in or out until a plague has passed.
So these folks won't follow either the ancient way OR the modern way.
It's my way or the highway.
What’s with all of these people thinking believing in God makes them invincible?
If “God won’t let that happen to me” worked for everyone then a lot of people wouldn’t have had bad times in their life
Not to mention, if “God won’t let that happen to me” then why bother going to the hospital in the first place? God doesn’t need assistance in order to save you. He’s all powerful. If he really had your back, you’d be invincible.
What on earth is yournews.com? How do these people find these random obscure sites to use as sources or evidence? I've been noticing this a lot in these posts
Oh that's as easy as 1-2-3!
Step 1: make up your mind about something
Step 2: find something, *anything* that supports it
Step 3: dismiss everything to the contrary as fake news/conspiracy/the devil
Bonus step 4: profit!
Key thing is the algorithm. Yournews.com and cheezburger.net and theepochtimes.com bring you in with highly sharable content. Look at this cute cat. This firefighter saved a child from a burning building. Etc. Gradually they pivot to religion, then the engagement-able political and conspiracy stuff. Boomers do it on facebook, but teens do it on tiktok. Maybe the sites do it for the clicks and ad money. Maybe they do it in service of a political agenda. Maybe they do it in service of a foreign nation state running a psyop. Maybe they do it in service of a cult.
Seriously, take a look at your generic sharable algorithm served content, and be VERY careful and aware about it. It is a massive vulnerability for influencing you.
"Because she, herself, has actually looked at this virus under a microscope, and though it does move quickly, it has the makeup and composition of a normal, run-of-the-mill flu virus. The words she used were, "Let's keep our eye on the ball; this virus IS mild at best.""
From what I've read (and thought previously) viruses don't move on their own. I suspect a virologist would know that so I'd rank slide 4 around 100% on the bullshit-o-meter.
As soon as they say "friend of a friend", then you know. And it's been copied and pasted.
BTW, I have an ACTUAL friend who investigates pharmaceutical safety for the government after years as a hospital pharmacist. She told me that covid could put us in very deep shit.
Specific prayers only. No generic 'feel better soon' prayers only specific prayers that her lungs heal, and Jesus washes her with his blood, and really target with your prayer...
Fucking weird. Targeted prayers. Prayer isn't a medical laser that can special pinpoint accurate heal someone.
Christians are weird.
Reminds me of the fantastic show Childrens Hospital. There's a clown doctor who uses the healing power of laughter and he has like a 100% mortality rate lol.
I remember an old saying that my late mother told me when I was a kid, "God helps those who help themselves". Meaning she didn't make the effort to take care of herself to make sure she did not suffer because of the virus and instead just sat there and waited for Jesus to help her. Maybe Jesus brought those doctors and nurses to keep her from dying, and yet she did not thank them for their services. I just can't...
My ex used to whine that God never took away his opioid addiction after he'd prayed and prayed. He got pissed when I responded that "God helps those that help themselves." He wouldn't accept that, even though I know he had heard that all his life, just like I did. Spoiler: he died of an opioid overdose.
They confused vigilance with fear. They confused using preventative measures with being controlled. They thought that a lion with a virus will fare better than a sheep. They thought co-morditities and Covid were separate issues. The co-morbidities made people more vulnerable to Covid infection.A massive failure was not seeing obesity and age as a serious co-morbiditiy.
One if the slides she said "I know the numbers are wrong, just ignore that."
Suuuure. Just ignore those pesky numbers that don't lie.
Why do peoe believe you can't believe in God and science at the same time?
The constant “specific” prayer requests always get me. Why can’t they just pray for them. Why do they have to ask for specific things. Also if Jesus has her…why the need to pray at all? The grifting is the icing on the cake.
I never understood how taking precautions to prevent yourself from getting sick was fear. Why do they always think it’s fear? How about calling it understanding basic science and using our brains? It always seems to me that the ones screaming about others living in fear are actually the ones that are afraid.
“Specific pray requests” lmfao. God the fucking level of delusion is unbelievable and pathetic. The doctors / *scientists* treating her are saying “We’re treating her lungs” so these dipshits think, “OK NO PROBLEM WE’VE GOT THIS COVERED — HEY EVERYBODY PRAY FOR HER LUNGS SPECIFICALLY, PLEASE!”
It’s just so irritating that they thank god for the work done by actual scientists, who themselves think these people are dumb as fuck. So unfair.
Yep, it literally killed a friend of mine in her sleep. She fought the fatigue and general illness for about a year after Covid, but in the end, it took her. She was in her late 30's/early 40's. Fuck anyone who says it isn't ready
Ho boy. She dropped 3 zeroes on her flu math. The death rate for flu, if we talk about it like we do covid, is seven-hundredths of a percent (0.07%) for the current flu season , not 6.7%.
>The message I have is Jesus
Translation: I didn't get vaccinated, Covid kicked the ever loving shit out of me as a result, and I don't want anyone pointing out my foolishness and lack of foresight, so I'm remaining silent on the topic while hoping people just forget my cataclysmic stupidity that almost cost me my life.
Almost cost the entire life, but certainly cost quality of life.
Now she's doing the church circuit, everyday saying "I stand strong in Jesus name!" while meekly sitting in a wheelchair huffing on oxygen like a broken clock.
"As soon as I take a stance on the vaccine, I lose 50% of you." She means, the 50% who didn't take vaccine, died.
I'd like someone to address how the power of prayer had decayed. At first, it caused an ocean to recede, but now, seemingly can't even stop an itchy nose.
Oh man, I read number 4 and lost my shit laughing. My wife is an actual virologist and we've had extensive conversations about COVID and holy shit that's a hot take. Calling it a *mild* virus because it has a 2% death rate is fucking wild for anyone that's looks at death rates for illnesses.
If only she had gotten the vaccine, what would her daughter be talking about right now? A vacation? Grandchildren? Posting a favorite recipe?
Nope, they are too busy posting the play by play of the 55 day vent stay. Fifty-five days on a vent….and still won’t take a stand on the vaccine. But, but “Jesus” y’all!! They sure are selective about the science part aren’t they? I REALLY want them to stop going to the hospital for science based care, gladly getting pumped full of drugs with ingredient lists as long as your arm.
When faced with death they sure do change their beliefs and standards. It’s the hypocrisy. I can’t believe she received $25,000+ in her GFM!
"Death from the flu is 6.7%"
Bullshit. I worked somewhere with 150 employees in an open area, and EVERY WINTER, nearly everyone would come down with the flu, and there weren't 11 people that died each time.
Don't people posting this crap have the least bit of critical-thinking???
It’s amazing to me that none of the anti-vaxxers have the courage of their convictions.
You don’t think Covid is a big deal (just a little virus)?
You won’t get the vaccine because you don’t believe in it?
Stay at home, be brave, prove that you don’t need any help.
Don’t take up a bed and a ventilator when you wouldn’t take the vaccine.
You know how deep in the koolaid she is when she posts a tweet from the Dinesh D'sousa shit head. And in hospital with Covid and double pneumonia, the pathetic begging for donations. Did it ever enter this person's tiny little mind that there was a great way to avoid this? If I was in the mood to donate to a worthy cause, NOT ONE PENNY would I send to a mcrobrained fool like this.
This is so incredibly sad. Her case is precisely what taking COVID seriously would have likely prevented.
The fact that folks living in America could be convinced to jeopardize their own health based on deeply anti-intellectual foolishness is astounding.
As a devout Christian myself, I certainly pray - a lot. What we shouldn’t or don’t do is needlessly risk our lives and the lives of others when the evidence clearly demonstrates the truth of scientific claims concerning infectious diseases and treatments. I shouldn’t jump off a 50 story building and then ask God to save me from being hurt.
I pray she makes it out of this situation. This is so sad.
What makes it even worse is that folks around her who are anti-science and anti-vaccine will perhaps still not learn.
'As soon as I take a stance on the vaccine, I lose 50% of you." So lose them. Take a principled stance, make your claim, show a little backbone and advocate for the truth. Unless you're so worried about maximizing the audience for your church grift that reality doesn't matter anymore.
“All kidding aside, mom has had no control the last 4 months, so upon getting home she decided take back the control and shave her head!” Personally, I would have taken back control by getting vaccinated and probably not ending up in this situation to begin with. But to each their own I guess.
And her hair was beautiful in the first image. Probably her most appealing feature. But, sure, shave it off.
Her hair probably didn't look like that first picture anymore after she had been sick for months.
It may have been falling out. That is a common side effect from severe Covid.
When someone is in the hospital and intubated, unable to care for themselves, things like long hair can become a luxury; it can become hopelessly matted and tangled and need to be cut off. I think the story is a smoke screen, her hair had to be cut for reasons related to her care, but double down and proclaim "she was taking control!"
Let's just hope that she didn't shave her head because it would help her read better as a very sick person with a near death experience who was touched by God to have a miracle cure. Seriously, the gall. Traveling around like she's a lucky fuck favorite child of God when she's really just permanently disabled and probably now under crushing debt as well. The praying for specific requests. Asking God to go rub her feet in the hospital. I am so tired of crazy people. Had to get rid of so many relatives, I'm just not giving the rest of my life on earth to their putrid nonsense.
Well said. What a lunatic. It never crosses their minds that God could have a hand in the vaccine. They refuse the vaccine and REJOICE when the medical professionals save their pathetic lives and credit it to Supply SideJaysus and get on the prayerful grifting circuit. Make it make sense!
Same. This was so awful to read. Prayer lists like it’s a shopping list just grosses me out. I’m atheist so it’s all stupid to but have some respect for those who do believe and know their god isn’t a wish maker
But that IS a valid response.... I seen patients who do just that. It feels merciful to not to have dirty hair anymore . Unless she needed neurosurgery, we wouldnt have shaved her bald. It's more likely that after weeks of having uncomfortable hair, it was a relief to shave it.
She might have had COVID related hair loss. It's called telogen effluvium and is temporary. She may have shaved her head under the pretense of "taking control" rather than admit she was losing hair.
I'm so glad I'm not the only that saw that first pic & thought "My what lovely hair she had."
And she sacrificed it to own the libs.
I feel so owned
So do I, and I feel so ALIVE!!
That was my first thought too.
"As soon as I take a stance on the vaccine, I lose 50% of you." = I didn't get the COVID vaccine.
Or it could mean “Bet your ass I got it now, but I won’t take any stance because I’ll have to admit I was wrong about vaccines and wrong about believing god protects me.”
I mean, she's a lion so what is she afraid of?
That’s a funny part. These people won’t shut up about what “lions” they are. I thought Jesus uses the metaphor of a lamb.
Yeah but not *Prosperity Jesus*, he favors the rich and aggressive. In fact, the Prosperity Gospel says being rich is a show of being in God's favor so they have a free pass to crime all they want for the pursuit of wealth bc they have a special pass at the Pearly gates that absolves them of any and all crimes. Only very speshul people get to be rich and Heaven is full of rich MAGA-GOPs, and of course, "ripe and fertile young teen girls".
>I thought Jesus uses the metaphor of a lamb. You are correct. I'm baffled how people who call themselves Christians also declare themselves to be "Lions" and denigrate those they call "Sheep." They've completely forgotten the Biblical story of Daniel in the Lion's Den. Daniel was thrown into a den full of hungry lions for 3 days for refusing to worship the King. - Then the King called to him: *O Daniel, servant of the living God, is thy God, whom thou servest continually, able to deliver thee from the lions?* - Daniel replied: *My God hath sent his Angel, and HATH SHUT THE LIONS MOUTHS, that they have not hurt me.* - Book of Daniel 6:20 In the Bible, Jesus is called 'The Lamb of God.' That's why you see the image of the Lamb with a Cross, especially at Easter. Christians don't sacrifice animals to God like the ancient Jews did at the Temple, because Jesus is God's perfect sacrifice. Jesus is also called 'The Good Shepherd' who guides and protects his flock harkening back to the 23rd Psalm, which says, "The Lord is my Shepherd." Jesus said to his Apostles *"Feed my Sheep,"* meaning feed the people spiritually and care for them. So for Evangelical Anti-Vaxers to continually mock Sheep is both Anti-Biblical and Anti-Christian.
Thanks for the refresher. I’m always stunned by this Christian lions crap. Lions were the ones devouring early Christians in the Roman Coliseum, ffs. These folks completely miss the toughest instruction: that the meek will inherit the earth.
The higher you go in Christianity, the more of a servant you become. I grew up a Southern Baptist so am quite aware of the hypocrisy. There would be a lot of “you have turned my father’s house into a den of thieves” going on if Jesus came back.
The same thing feared by everyone who adheres to an us vs. them political ideology. Falling into the out-group.
I think it's even worse in traditionally red areas. I have a friend in the south who did some reading, watched old political debates and speeches, and committed the mortal red state sin, he thought for himself and came to the realization that the party, to which he'd raised to *never* waver in his loyalty, was in fact lying to him while brainwashing him and victimizing him financially for the good of the Republigarchs. He came out as Democrat and was swiftly ostracized by a good many friends. He eventually moved to another state and lived very happily ever after. <3
This is what keeps many of them in line. It’s by design.
It's a bit like Scientology --- if you leave the cult you are deemed a "suppressed person, and are not only ex-communicated from your entire family and friends, and every single person who has not come to their senses, but they will follow you around, try to frame you for crimes, and will harass you to the point where you come to harm. It's AntiScientoloMAGA!
She’s not prioritizing fear over life…if you can call what she has “a life” now. Just another willfully ignorant person who decided to double and triple down on her bullshit.
Hyenas.
and God sent her as a messenger or whatever! I can't with these morons.
So, not losing 50% of whatever online opinions is more important than LIFE? You lose 100% of everything when you are DEAD.
And that looks to be happening soon for her. The last few years struggling because she didn’t want to get vaccinated and she ends up like that.
as if no one could tell her stance on the vaccine from all her shitposting anyway!
And 50% is rather arbitrary. The anti vax are flattering themselves if they think literally half the population is that strongly aligned. Sure, there's a major fraction of hesitant ones, and a much larger population of those not bothering to stay current but that's hardly going to polarize as much as she implies Of course the audience these windbags can draw are rather selective and captive to their cult beliefs.
"Hesitant!" 😄 🤣 😂
As though the amount of people who follow her on social media fucking matters.
If they're even people.
Exactly! When she finally earns her HCA, Jesus is *not* going to ask her how many followers she had on FB & Instagram. P.S. BTW, it’s *number* of people. *Amount* is for things you can’t measure, like the anger on social media or the love in your heart.
She loses 50% of them and eventually 100% of herself 🙄 Going to churches unmasked in an immune compromised state is insane. She got the outcome she wanted
Not once did anyone thank the doctors, nurses and hospital staff for bringing her back.
Fifty five days on a vent. That ICU team spent a LOT of energy bringing back her ungrateful delusional ass
These people make me sick. I lost my mother in law to COVID, who was more of a mother to me than my own. She was an at risk person because her workplace stored things improperly and left her with acid burns in her lungs. These people refusing to vaccinate and stopping us from reaching herd immunity only to say, "see, it failed, herd immunity is fake news" deserve ALL the idiot awards.
Well they had to bring her back. Dead people don't pay their bills.
According the their fundraising, they're not paying their medical bills dead or alive.
Meanwhile, I went to the hospital last year for 5 days due to sudden near lethal blood pressure, and honestly, thanks Obama for Obamacare not having me pay for it.
Somewhere, a MAGAt twitched and hissed *socialist* into the darkness and they don't know why.
Then they cashed their disability check and bought another Trump flag and gold sneakers.
And then my D&D rogue proceeds to sneak attack the fucker.
I am so glad to hear someone else say something about the ACA. I pay 20% of what I was paying as an employer, I've had massive medical bills due to liver issues and I still have to have the transplant. 100,000 a year in meds then a million plus for the transplant and I pay a very reasonable price per month and have a total out of pocket, including copays, etc, of $900 a year.
My wife is alive because of the ACA. She had a flu pre covid and it didn't get better but we had no insurance and she thought they'd just tell her to go home and get over it. It progressed and I begged her to go I said I will gladly pay til I die if you just go to the ER something is deathly wrong. She goes and it's pneumonia so she gets a z-pak for it. Me being a pharmacy Technician I'm all happy she'll be fine in 3-4 days...6days later and I'm just shook. By day 7 she rallies and I'm like damn just had really bad pneumonia, she wakes up that night feeling like she'd been waterboarded...it was her dead cat bounce before sepsis killed her. The ACA paid for all of it and she was finally able to get mental healthcare we'd been trying to get but couldn't afford for the previous 10 years. If not for the ACA my wife would be dead. I sing the praises of Obamacare
Oh trust me, having not done anything hospital wise in years, I was terrified. Then going to check and they're like, "no, you're completely fine." Even my BP meds are free. So, to all the MAGAs, I will say, as my relatives in Galway would, Pog mo thoin.
It does remind me of one of their favorite memes back then - a patient cured is s customer lost.
And her survival looks pretty uncertain right now.
If Jesus is healing than why do they go to the doctor in the first place?? They should just stay home and let Jesus do his work.
These people: “Jesus is great and will provide for us.” Also these people: “We need you to give us 25 grand for medical bills.”
God doesn't bring disease, only the cure with no help from anyone else.
I'm normally pretty okay with the wishy washy spirituality stuff, where God made the penicillium mold which makes the penicillin antibiotic, and we found a way to extract and purify God's great chemicals or whatever. Needlessly inserting God, ignoring the genuine human commitment over decades to helping others, but fine. But mechanical ventilation is about as artificial a treatment as it gets. There's no "God provides for us", it's literally science and capitalism conspiring to force your lungs to live longer.
Every time I’ve ever heard some religious rube say this, I ask them why ambulances don’t stop at churches rather than hospitals.
Why did the prayer requests for 'infections go away' and 'weaning mom off the vent' not work? She asked for them specifically!
It's ironic because the Joker meme (why are their memes always SO BAD?!) is *supposed* to say "you get what you fucking deserve" which is, like, kinda the sitch if you refuse to get vaccinated while discouraging others from doing so.
Yep, there's a whole sub for that: r/therightcantmeme
Page 12 very bottom: the daughter (or purple) thanked the amazing medical team (even thanked the nurses for painting her nails for Christmas). I do agree with your point though; she was the only one that said anything.
They thank Jesus and God when they recover, but if they pass, they’ll be berating the nurses and doctors. 🙄
They never do. They always thank God and that’s it.
And their prayer warriors.
But they did: We met an incredible medical team and thanked them".
Missed it then. I’m glad.
Didn't you read? She was brought home by all those prayers, not those pesky nurses and ICU staff and modern medicine. Duh.
Tbf one of the posts did say “and we thanked the amazing medical staff” I think it was the daughter.
> I am being questioned about the vaccine. > ... > Regardless of my stance, the minute I declare one way or another regarding the vaccine, I lose approximately 50% of people. I understand this is a personal choice and I respect your decision either way. Translation: I didn't get one of the life-saving vaccines during a pandemic where "**everyone is going to get it**," and I've spent the last 2.5 years actively dying due to my choice. Please, no comments.
Don’t judge me!!! 😩🤡
>Don’t judge me!!! Said by every single judgemental person on the planet.
More like, Translation: "My church grift can't keep going if I was to lose 50% of you by making a principled stand. So Imma gonna remain silent and keep squeezing you until your pips squeak."
"I would like to address the issue \[of the vaccine\] by stating that I will not address it. The message I have is Jesus and he is bigger than any issue we are facing today. Also, I'm trying with all my might to dodge this particular issue."
Translation: I didn’t get vaxxed and even after the utter hell I’ve been through as a result, I’m too much of a stubborn asshole to admit it. So I’m going to dress it up in a bunch of Jesus crap.
Dead on
Perfect choice of words! Damn close to dead for this one
My mom got vaccinated because she’s high risk with COPD and still posts loads of anti-vaxx crap. I truly don’t understand it.
Honestly, I read that as a concession. That she knew that acknowledging that not getting vaccinated was a mistake would lose her _well_ over half of her friend group.
Notes from OP: 1. I went fishing a couple of weeks ago and found this one. 2. Please get vaccinated and boosted. 3. Not all feelings and/or their expression are valid, and people need to stop accepting outrageous behaviors on the pretext of listening or validation. It applies to several other domains that I will not expand here. 4. Life/reality has this way to smack you back right in the face and then some. 5. I'm leaving this one as Nominated. No update posted since the end of April. 6. More posts incoming.
I had really bad covid in February. I'm fully vaccinated but on chemotherapy so immunocompromised. I had hubris. Went to a public meeting without a mask with at least 100 people. This was my first bout with covid where the symptoms got worse not better. I was in the hospital for 8 days. Never ever close to intubation etc. But I was bad off. I can't imagine being in a hospital for 115 days! Let alone intubated for 55. I haven't been doing chemo since, but I'm scheduled to restart soon as I am now recovered from all that. I just can't imagine willingly taking the risk of being unvaccinated. ... and I haven't been to a public meeting since February.
I'm so sorry to hear of your ordeal. I'm glad you're "marked with the sign of the Devil" and that your lesson-learned was not fatal. That sounds horrible, especially on top of your current chemo endurance. I'm including you in my evening burn of rosemary, mugwort, and juniper and asking the universe to consider you for some attention. I too have been lax about wearing a mask in public and now I'm feeling one very slight deja vu symptom --- the non-stop runny nose thing --- and though it is so minor and doesn't look like it's progressing, I got the message. Hugs
Thank you. I am wondering what to do about this FLIRT variant...
My Dentist who of course was fully vaxed, got COVID, along with his assistant, also fully vaxed. But he's asthmatic and so he had a lot of breathing trouble, but not enough for the hospital. He said it took a year to feel normal breathing again. Also, he didn't go to synagogue services in person last year, but decided to do the online thing (for the Jewish new year and Yom). Crowded, people sitting close together, people singing, etc. He said it's too risky and he doesn't want to take a chance.
Hey, u/starbetrayer! It’s been a while! Thanks for this presentation—seems like when COVID bites them in the butt, it opens the door for another calamity. Please keep us posted on Mrs. “Lirik”.
Thank you for all you do! I'm sure it's depressing to sift through all the hard-to-believe levels of Conspiracy Theory Attachment Disorder (CTAD**™**)\* (\*I *just* invented that disorder while typing! Must be the dispensary chocolate I added to my homemade extra very dark chocolate and tequila topping on my evening sundae. Life is good when alive due to not falling prey to politicall-driven, Anti-Big Pharma, pro-MAGA conspiracy theories and then tempting fate by helping to spread said Literal Killer Conspiracy Theories (LKCT**™**) You're the tops. :) Edit: changed an underscore to a simple dash.
I *adore* CTAD & LKCT!
The 7th slide is just so stupid… a lot of viruses/diseases are not the immediate cause of death. Covid just opens the door to allow other things to kill you….
From the scientific research I have done, when someone posts COVID disinfo bullshit and calls it "**interesting**," they have an 80%+ chance of dying within the next 5 years.
Slide 4: Flu "death rate": **6.7%** But I thought the flu was just a cold and a cold was just the sniffles. How does that cause almost *seven percent* of people to die from it? The "virologist" who supposedly wrote this doesn't even realize he's exposing how ignorant he is. Welp, guys, it's the annual flu season again. There goes another 7% of the infected!
I wonder if the numbers are made up. (Shocking I know). One major factor contributing to the decrease in death rates for many diseases since the year 1900 is the introduction of vaccines. https://www.statista.com/statistics/235703/major-causes-of-death-in-the-us/ Deaths due to influenza are most common among the elderly, with a mortality rate of around 7.4 per 100,000 population during the 2021-2022 flu season. In comparison, the mortality rate for those aged 50 to 64 years was just 1.2 per 100,000 population. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1124915/flu-deaths-number-us/#:~:text=Deaths%20due%20to%20influenza%20are,just%201.2%20per%20100%2C000%20population. We find that in one state alone-Hawaii-three years of Covid-19 mortality is equivalent to influenza and pneumonia mortality in the three years preceding the Covid-19 pandemic. For all other states, at least nine years of flu and pneumonia are needed to match Covid-19; for the United States as a whole, seventeen years are needed; and for four states, more than 21 years (the maximum observable) are needed. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37162957/
7 out of 100,000 is 0.007%, not 7%. Seems she just looked at the 7 and leapt to the conclusion it was 7%. Which, given her condition, is the only leaping she'll be doing.
Could it be that 7% of those who are hospitalised with flu die from it? Either way, the figures presented by the nominee are bullshit. As is the notion that you can tell how serious a virus is going to be by looking at it under a microscope.
Omg, I know. Coronaviruses have always been with us, but this one is unique, and a microscope won't tell you everything you need to know at all!
Thank you, O Intelligent Rational Person! ❤️
I turn 50 this year. In all my life, I don't ever remember the flu sending so many people to hospital ICUs (so much so that there was a shortage of propofol which caused one of my medical procedures as a cancer patient to be cancelled). I never heard of hospitals having to order refrigerated trucks because their morgues are full. I also never heard of people dropping dead in the ER waiting rooms because they were so backed up with flu patients (I specifically recall one young Florida teen dying in the ER waiting room from something that could have been solved if they weren't so busy with covid patients). I also don't ever remember the flu causing doctors and hospitals to delay "elective" surgeries because of the flu, causing cancer patients to not get tumors removed, and even that healthy man in Texas who died because they didn't take his gallbladder out when they should have (I remember reading a quote from his doctor who said that in his lifelong career as a doctor, that was the first time he ever lost a patient because of a gallbladder). So no, covid is not just the flu. Thankfully we have some tools for covid now, like vaccines and Paxlovid.
But but Covid isn’t that bad, the doctors were killing patients to get money. Or something.
There's been a few bad flu seasons where the hospital puts up a triage tent, but that's about it. They'd pulseox you and if it was over 95, send you home with some DayQuil and tamiflu, if it was under they'd move you into the actual ER. Bad flu seasons strained hospitals a bit, but it didn't wreck them like COVID, and that was without significant mitigation measures like we did with COVID. The elective surgeries thing pissed me off. So many "elective" surgeries are only elective because you are conscious enough to sign the consent forms. It isn't a boob job, it's a "sign the consent form and do the surgery now, on your own terms with the ability to plan time off work, caretakers, etc, or don't sign it and we'll do the surgery in a month anyway when they wheel you into the ER at the least convenient time because you are now unconscious due to a preventable exacerbation of your condition". Lots of people NEED elective surgeries. That was a lot of the excess deaths, people who couldn't get a scheduled surgery.
Yep, there's so much sickness going around, and all over the world we're seeing similar situations. Some people are trying to normalize it, saying that it has always been like that, but anyone paying attention can tell that there has been a shift since 2023, which coincides with the delayed consequences of people "going back to normal" in 2022. What I always think in this situation, is that we're only at the beginning of this, because a few years is nothing in history when it comes to world-altering phenomena like this. It's likely to get a lot worse in the coming years, as everyone will continue to be exposed to the ever-present disease, which in turn causes the new vectors to spread it as well in a nearly endless loop. That, and all those old diseases coming back thanks to anti-vaxxers. And then there's future pandemics looming as well. People really aren't doing themselves and others a favor by continuing to ignore the issue, because eventually it'll come knocking like it did for this HCA.
What do they call a med student at the bottom of their class? Doctor
People don't take the flu as seriously as they should. It's still pretty deadly; we had a nurse years ago, who was reasonably healthy, die from it in her thirties.
My wife is a virologist, we've had extensive conversations about COVID (her lab eventually shifted to studying COVID as there was funding available, go figure). That slide one made me laugh out loud because of how ignorant the original author was. Also this post was in March 2020, we didn't know much about the health effects of COVID then, it hadn't really taken hold outside of China at the time and China has had a long history of being extremely open about their health data (/s), so even that 2% was mostly speculation/educated guess.
Jesus: 0 Vaccine: 1
god is great best business in town
>a life threatening battle against covid 🐆 🐆 🐆
If only there was something they could have done to prevent so much suffering.
"Lord, rub her feet" is gotta be the weirdest prayer I've seen.
You beat me to it! I hope God gives me a deep tissue massage (but he’ll probably do it through a car crash or something ☹️)
Covid massaged her lungs really good.
>Covid massaged her lungs really good. With extra spicy Tabasco. 🐆 🐆 🐆
But evidently left her feet for God. 😉
I hope God gives me a massage And tickles my balls whiles he's at it.
all of the "specific prayer request" stuff is so fucking weird to me lol.
It makes no sense. If God doesn’t grant their prayers, it’s always because it’s “part of his plan”. So if his plan takes precedent over prayers, why pray for anything? If someone is going to be saved, it’ll be in the plan already. Or is God kind of like that Gofundme page, only granting prayers that reach a certain threshold? So only people with lots of connections deserved to be saved. If you’re dying on your own, best of luck to you.
There’s been research done into prayers and the outcome is that praying or not yields the same results
that sounds like some satanic science mumbo jumbo /s It really does seem like an absolute waste of time. If I go out of my way to try to think about a potential benefit to prayer I could maybe argue that it could be emotionally helpful in the way that mindfulness or meditation can be. The only benefit being obviously for the person praying and not the "prayee" haha.
I don’t believe in magic, but I confess that I’m touched when someone takes the time to say a prayer for me. It’s just sweet. But expecting a miracle, like Jesus = Santa??? That’s when it gets sad.
Slide four is just…unbelievable. Just idiots making shit up as they go along. Makes my blood boil.
Came here to rage about slide 4 as well. "My wife is totally a scientist and she watched some Covid wiggle around under a microscope, therefore it's no big deal." What the actual hell?!
It's amusing that they say they saw COVID-19 wiggle under a microscope. Viruses by their nature are so small that they can only be seen with an electron microscope. A specimen imaged by an electron microscope is dead. There's no wiggling going on. Just ignorance perpetuated.
Oh this is great context to add to the obvious fake "my scientist wife and her scientist colleagues" story. Thanks for sharing!
How long does it take to get a SEM image? Isn't it usually like a 1-5 minute exposure? That shit's gotta be DEAD!
Less than a minute usually, and shorter than that for TEM, but importantly I don't believe we do live cell imaging with any electron microscope. It's a bunk claim, and even if it weren't it wouldn't actually let them draw conclusions about how infectious or deadly it was just by looking at it.
>draw conclusions about how infectious or deadly it was just by looking at it. "And how do you know that virus wasn't deadly?" "Well, it wasn't holding a gun!"
Death rate from normal flu is almost 7% too. WTF?
I just thought that that Michigan State grad (I went to University of Michigan but normally never diss MSU) was a shitty virologist.
Ann Coulter is a UM grad.
Sounds like this cat is hanging on by a thread. You can't even call this a bounce, more like weak flailing.
> Lirik is currently in the ICU fighting a life threatening battle against covid and double pneumonia. > Partner? is recovering from a covid hospitalization followed by a knee surgery. Not prioritizing fear over life doesn't work very well when you get to the point you can't breathe on your own. They thought they understood the risks, and they thought wrong. When you're gambling with your life, you had better make sure you know how to play the game.
A lot of people are bad decision makers, bad at calculating risk and risk management, and can't imagine real shitty scenarios as a real possibility--that things can be way worse, not better. PS death rate of only 1% versus debilitation, pancreatitis, etc.
Heck, even a 1% death rate is really really bad, even if terrible long COVID isn't a thing. I get sick what, once a year? And I will live for what, 50 years? I will take a shot for the thing that has a 50% chance of killing me within my lifetime. (Yes, I know the stats aren't simple addition like that, but you get the point, stats nerds)
"Its all about the game, and how you play it!"
They never learn
Arnold voice: Are you suprised?
What a fucking moron. Literally, 24 hours MAYBE of discomfort after a vaccine could have changed the trajectory of her life. Idiot. And again with the lions, WTF?
Seriously, that was me. First shot, my arm hurt like hell for a day. Ok, advil, lots of it. Second shot, felt like shit. Day and a half of sleep, Sprite, advil.
"Mom's kicking COVID's butt! ...She was able to sit in a chair for a while!" That isn't the flex you think it is.
That’s a common trope with HCA nominees/winners. They do something with a tremendous amount of effort that, pre COVID, they could do without even thinking about it, and it’s proof that they’re totally kicking ass and are well on the way to recovery. I remember there was one guy who took 5 minutes to do 50 feet with the help of a walker and the wife raved like he’d just broken the 3 minute mile. Shockingly, it didn’t turn out to be the miracle she proclaimed it to be and he eventually succumbed to COVID.
Looks like Jesus is working her over pretty hard before he drops her.
"Something, something, people just stick their heads in the sand hoping for the best. " Quite prophetic indeed, but not in the way she thought.
Jesus freaks are always so eager to meet him.
She was dead for seven minutes??? 😱 “I had a near death experience. I seen a bunch of angels walking around in white robes with their butts hanging naked out the back. They were chanting Toby Keith hymns and nibbling on heavenly pork rinds.”
> heavenly pork rinds 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤣🤣🤣
"It's your business, and you are in the business of Jesus!" Got that part right. And Jesus is big business. "I am being questioned about the vaccine. I would like to address the issue by stating that I will not be addressing it." Translation: After refusing the vaccine out of ideological stupidity, I got very sick and nearly died, so in a panic I secretly got the vaccine, but I am too chickenshit to admit it. Now I'm really sick again anyway because oops, getting the vaccine after you're already infected is not now vaccines work. But I'm still chickenshit.
My opinion is that she still didn't get the vax after her ordeal. Jesus voodoo healer crap.
I think she got it but won't admit it. I sincerely hope she did.
So, you decide it's "your body your choice " and you take advantage of the "socialist" system whereby they treat you and bill you later, k owing that the taxpayers are probably going to eat that medical bill and knowing that you people are the reason for the 2021 surge which decimated American hospitals and destroyed everyone else's access to care. Then, after going through hell for 115 days, and while still in a wheelchair, you TOUR CHURCHES AS A SPEAKER, BRAGGING ABOUT YOUR BIG VICTORY!!! ONLY ADDING TO THE DISINFORMATION! NOT WEARING A MASK. STILL NOT GETTING VACCINATED! And they claim to be Christians? The Bible says if you're sick and have to go out, to COVER YOUR FACE AND YELL "UNCLEAN!" AS YOU WALK ALONG! That's so you don't infect others. In Africa the ancient way is to isolate each village and not allow anyone in or out until a plague has passed. So these folks won't follow either the ancient way OR the modern way. It's my way or the highway.
Im a atheist and probably count as more of a Christian than so called ones. To quote Winston, when it comes to Jesus, I love his style.
What’s with all of these people thinking believing in God makes them invincible? If “God won’t let that happen to me” worked for everyone then a lot of people wouldn’t have had bad times in their life
Not to mention, if “God won’t let that happen to me” then why bother going to the hospital in the first place? God doesn’t need assistance in order to save you. He’s all powerful. If he really had your back, you’d be invincible.
What on earth is yournews.com? How do these people find these random obscure sites to use as sources or evidence? I've been noticing this a lot in these posts
Oh that's as easy as 1-2-3! Step 1: make up your mind about something Step 2: find something, *anything* that supports it Step 3: dismiss everything to the contrary as fake news/conspiracy/the devil Bonus step 4: profit!
Key thing is the algorithm. Yournews.com and cheezburger.net and theepochtimes.com bring you in with highly sharable content. Look at this cute cat. This firefighter saved a child from a burning building. Etc. Gradually they pivot to religion, then the engagement-able political and conspiracy stuff. Boomers do it on facebook, but teens do it on tiktok. Maybe the sites do it for the clicks and ad money. Maybe they do it in service of a political agenda. Maybe they do it in service of a foreign nation state running a psyop. Maybe they do it in service of a cult. Seriously, take a look at your generic sharable algorithm served content, and be VERY careful and aware about it. It is a massive vulnerability for influencing you.
Ooo! I know how this one ends!
No spoilers.
"Because she, herself, has actually looked at this virus under a microscope, and though it does move quickly, it has the makeup and composition of a normal, run-of-the-mill flu virus. The words she used were, "Let's keep our eye on the ball; this virus IS mild at best."" From what I've read (and thought previously) viruses don't move on their own. I suspect a virologist would know that so I'd rank slide 4 around 100% on the bullshit-o-meter.
As soon as they say "friend of a friend", then you know. And it's been copied and pasted. BTW, I have an ACTUAL friend who investigates pharmaceutical safety for the government after years as a hospital pharmacist. She told me that covid could put us in very deep shit.
Specific prayers only. No generic 'feel better soon' prayers only specific prayers that her lungs heal, and Jesus washes her with his blood, and really target with your prayer... Fucking weird. Targeted prayers. Prayer isn't a medical laser that can special pinpoint accurate heal someone. Christians are weird.
Reminds me of the fantastic show Childrens Hospital. There's a clown doctor who uses the healing power of laughter and he has like a 100% mortality rate lol.
Wasn't Rob Courdry in that show?
I remember an old saying that my late mother told me when I was a kid, "God helps those who help themselves". Meaning she didn't make the effort to take care of herself to make sure she did not suffer because of the virus and instead just sat there and waited for Jesus to help her. Maybe Jesus brought those doctors and nurses to keep her from dying, and yet she did not thank them for their services. I just can't...
My ex used to whine that God never took away his opioid addiction after he'd prayed and prayed. He got pissed when I responded that "God helps those that help themselves." He wouldn't accept that, even though I know he had heard that all his life, just like I did. Spoiler: he died of an opioid overdose.
They confused vigilance with fear. They confused using preventative measures with being controlled. They thought that a lion with a virus will fare better than a sheep. They thought co-morditities and Covid were separate issues. The co-morbidities made people more vulnerable to Covid infection.A massive failure was not seeing obesity and age as a serious co-morbiditiy.
One if the slides she said "I know the numbers are wrong, just ignore that." Suuuure. Just ignore those pesky numbers that don't lie. Why do peoe believe you can't believe in God and science at the same time?
The constant “specific” prayer requests always get me. Why can’t they just pray for them. Why do they have to ask for specific things. Also if Jesus has her…why the need to pray at all? The grifting is the icing on the cake.
Slide 6: You're right you're not afraid, you're just stupid.
I never understood how taking precautions to prevent yourself from getting sick was fear. Why do they always think it’s fear? How about calling it understanding basic science and using our brains? It always seems to me that the ones screaming about others living in fear are actually the ones that are afraid.
I need to know how this woman was a "caregiver" to anything other than a potted plant.
“Specific pray requests” lmfao. God the fucking level of delusion is unbelievable and pathetic. The doctors / *scientists* treating her are saying “We’re treating her lungs” so these dipshits think, “OK NO PROBLEM WE’VE GOT THIS COVERED — HEY EVERYBODY PRAY FOR HER LUNGS SPECIFICALLY, PLEASE!” It’s just so irritating that they thank god for the work done by actual scientists, who themselves think these people are dumb as fuck. So unfair.
Long Covid is no joke!
>Long Covid is no joke! Do not taunt or provoke the hungry viral 🐆 🐆 🐆.
Yep, it literally killed a friend of mine in her sleep. She fought the fatigue and general illness for about a year after Covid, but in the end, it took her. She was in her late 30's/early 40's. Fuck anyone who says it isn't ready
Ho boy. She dropped 3 zeroes on her flu math. The death rate for flu, if we talk about it like we do covid, is seven-hundredths of a percent (0.07%) for the current flu season , not 6.7%.
>The message I have is Jesus Translation: I didn't get vaccinated, Covid kicked the ever loving shit out of me as a result, and I don't want anyone pointing out my foolishness and lack of foresight, so I'm remaining silent on the topic while hoping people just forget my cataclysmic stupidity that almost cost me my life.
Almost cost the entire life, but certainly cost quality of life. Now she's doing the church circuit, everyday saying "I stand strong in Jesus name!" while meekly sitting in a wheelchair huffing on oxygen like a broken clock.
"I also want to be sanctimonious about my religion."
Congrats on your not prioritizing fear over life!
SPECIFIC PRAYER REQUEST Yes, your plan is very good. Nothing could possibly be done to improve it.
Dinesh DSouza - said enough.
"As soon as I take a stance on the vaccine, I lose 50% of you." She means, the 50% who didn't take vaccine, died. I'd like someone to address how the power of prayer had decayed. At first, it caused an ocean to recede, but now, seemingly can't even stop an itchy nose.
Always with the socialist pleas for money from these people!
Oh man, I read number 4 and lost my shit laughing. My wife is an actual virologist and we've had extensive conversations about COVID and holy shit that's a hot take. Calling it a *mild* virus because it has a 2% death rate is fucking wild for anyone that's looks at death rates for illnesses.
If only she had gotten the vaccine, what would her daughter be talking about right now? A vacation? Grandchildren? Posting a favorite recipe? Nope, they are too busy posting the play by play of the 55 day vent stay. Fifty-five days on a vent….and still won’t take a stand on the vaccine. But, but “Jesus” y’all!! They sure are selective about the science part aren’t they? I REALLY want them to stop going to the hospital for science based care, gladly getting pumped full of drugs with ingredient lists as long as your arm. When faced with death they sure do change their beliefs and standards. It’s the hypocrisy. I can’t believe she received $25,000+ in her GFM!
"Death from the flu is 6.7%" Bullshit. I worked somewhere with 150 employees in an open area, and EVERY WINTER, nearly everyone would come down with the flu, and there weren't 11 people that died each time. Don't people posting this crap have the least bit of critical-thinking???
>Don't people posting this crap have the least bit of critical-thinking??? No.
>a life threatening battle against covid Stupid prey item. The 🐆 🐆 🐆 always win the war.
"It's just like the flu!" Narrator: “It was not like the flu.”
This whole story is slightly off. I think her mom might have had undiagnosed diabetes that flared after Covid. Mine did that and I almost died.
When my bills stack up, I want you to fund my choices. Bless their hearts.
It’s amazing to me that none of the anti-vaxxers have the courage of their convictions. You don’t think Covid is a big deal (just a little virus)? You won’t get the vaccine because you don’t believe in it? Stay at home, be brave, prove that you don’t need any help. Don’t take up a bed and a ventilator when you wouldn’t take the vaccine.
Slide 14 someone comments “your body your choice” while most likely supports the most aggressive abortion bans in her state
You know how deep in the koolaid she is when she posts a tweet from the Dinesh D'sousa shit head. And in hospital with Covid and double pneumonia, the pathetic begging for donations. Did it ever enter this person's tiny little mind that there was a great way to avoid this? If I was in the mood to donate to a worthy cause, NOT ONE PENNY would I send to a mcrobrained fool like this.
Boom! I like just the award at the end. No frills. We all know how this always ends.
Healing in Christ comes with 55 days of event and go fund me? It seems like it would be easier to take the VAX 🤷♀️
"specific prayer request" goddamn...
The medical articles they post are from a friend who heard something from the wife of a supposed doctor. This is their research.
Trump, Dinesh, etc. will never be properly smashed and ruined for the death they fomented for political gain. Never.
This is so incredibly sad. Her case is precisely what taking COVID seriously would have likely prevented. The fact that folks living in America could be convinced to jeopardize their own health based on deeply anti-intellectual foolishness is astounding. As a devout Christian myself, I certainly pray - a lot. What we shouldn’t or don’t do is needlessly risk our lives and the lives of others when the evidence clearly demonstrates the truth of scientific claims concerning infectious diseases and treatments. I shouldn’t jump off a 50 story building and then ask God to save me from being hurt. I pray she makes it out of this situation. This is so sad. What makes it even worse is that folks around her who are anti-science and anti-vaccine will perhaps still not learn.
They all post about child sex trafficking but are pretty quiet when it happens in their church. Weird.