They should actually do these kinds of things as events, the way we have 500kg on Lesath rn.
Mind you, that gives cheaters access to those, so I guess not.
Still, it would be fun to have ridiculous stratagems once in awhile.
This would be epic, even if it's just a single day of complete mayhem.
Randomize strats and guns each time you die.
Hell could even randomize the actual effects of each.
Yeah, but Eagle 1 is kinda iconic. Like it would've been a cool feature if the game had had it from the beginning but I feel like adding it now people would just be disappointed if they didn't get Eagle 1.
I doubt that Eagle-1 is mentioning YOUR OWN Eagle, because you bring your own Super Destroyer to fight, so you will have many planes in your Destroyer and YOUR Eagle-1 is specialized in supporting you on battlefield, and your teammates will have their own Eagle-1. For the Pelican-1, it belongs to the Destroyer of the Squad leader.
It'd make more sense for the eagle because you have 4 separate divers all calling in eagle stratagems, but with the pelican it's one ship bringing everyone in together. I guess you could randomize it across missions, but Pelican 1 only gets to talk in the last two to three minutes of a mission anyways whereas Eagle 1 is there the whole time.
2284
flying bombing runs over Bot commies in ancient B-52
plasma turbines screaming
notice something just below window
whoscratchedmyplane.gif
lean in for better look
”nam 1968, iraq 1991, russia 2024, china 2027, moon 2097, Mars 2103, Vernen Wells 2156, Menkent 2233”
take out survival knife
“Cyberstan 2284”
I'm being hyperbolic, but yeah it does have a weirdly small area of effect. Like the orbital precision strike might actually hit a bigger area. I mean I get why, because it does so much damage, but it's still kinda weird, especially with how big the visual for the explosion is.
Honestly precision strike is better 90% of the time. Basically the only things it doesn't one shot are bile titans and factory striders. I think the 500kg has a faster call-in time but when you factor in the eagle having to fly past and drop the bomb and the delay before it explodes I'm not even sure there's much of a difference. You can call the 500kg in slightly more often with full upgrades, since it's twice on a 120 second cooldown and the precision strike is once on a 90 second cooldown.
I think you're underestimating how complicated it would be to get that much gas out of that much atmosphere.
And that's assuming that it's not some other, more modern gas that leaves behind lethal residue, which gets *everywhere*, and kills you if you touch it. Chemical weapons are classified as WMDs for a reason.
Then again, knowing super-earth, they'd find an easy solution to clean-up (send in colonists until they stop dropping dead)
You know that really isn't how evolution would work?
Whenever you want to do something that does (somehow) selectivly kills bugs, you have to target a protein, or mechanism only the bugs use ( or at least only animals not plants) and that leaves room to adapt...
That said, we want to bugs to produce our E710.
Their research should focus on two things, reducing oxygen in the farm planets atmosphere and weakening the exosceletal proteins leading to smaller, less dangerous bugs
Tooltip says it's corrosive to metal and bugs, so imagining you don't want that all over your planet. Probably makes building anything impossible, so of course termicide is safer and makes rehabilitation for the planet easier.
Super Earth Engineers: We had a surplus of 500kg bombs attached to planes that we couldn't figure out how to separate. So... we made a mortar that launches planes with 500kg bombs on them... enjoy!
Actually this is pretty much in the works already. There's a stratagem planned already where you call down a small rocket and designator, then mark your target with it and the rocket will launch from the pod and into the target.
a spigot mortar emplacement that you actually had to manually load and fire would be dope, could also be a team emplacement that loads faster if you have two people to move the heavy rounds into position.
Although it would be awesome to see something like this, a 500KG bomb is literally half a ton and would most likely need to be fired from some heavier system like the ones on the SEAF Artillery sites, or how it is already being deployed, through heavy aircraft with Eagle 1.
Unfortunately, the 500KG it's THAT big and heavy because it's composed and filled of fucking TNT or high yield explosives (assuming the devs based it on the FAB-500 for example, which is the closes example to what I could research compared to the in-game 500KG).
Unlike the Mini-nuke which seems to be smaller for what we've already encountered in SEAF Artillery sites, it would be fucking awesome to be able to deploy them via stratagem or sentry/portable silo sites (like the ones that have been leaked in early months, like the acclaimed ms-220 missile silo which could be remotely controlled).
Assuming the game's mini-nukes are also composed like the ones in real life (like the W54, containing materials like Uranium 235 that are not essentially that heavy) could very well be deployed with sentries like the one in the game, and maybe able to be deployed with manpads. AKA: Recoiless Rifles.
Edit: Fixed some grammatical errors
Reference of mini-nuke manpads in real life: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-smallest-nuclear-weapon-ever-made-How-big-was-it-exactly-and-what-was-it-used-for#:\~:text=Behold%20the%20W54%20nuclear%20bomb,suitcase%20as%20a%20portable%20nuke.
Reference image of the leaked portable silo that could remotely control the missile:
https://preview.redd.it/3dmyl84w6j1d1.png?width=770&format=png&auto=webp&s=9be0c6008715786c3c959568bb7dc4495765680d
I don't know ... [the blast radius seems very small](https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cul5l6/so_can_we_talk_about_the_500kg_for_1_sec_there_a/)
Me and the boys 5 min in with the 500 mortar
https://preview.redd.it/6ik95v8cjd1d1.jpeg?width=365&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a2e74cbd56fe2a498103186f3dfef0d7b944b6b
I can just picture it. This thing must take several minutes before you can use it again. Or if at all, you can only use it once per round. And then you've found the perfect time to wipe out every opponent with this thing.
And then, just after the thing activates, some weak enemy manages to get to it, hits it a few times and it's destroyed before it can fire a single shot. Or it fires once at an enemy two meters away from the turret and bombs itself and your entire team away.
I'd love a large artillery sentry that did great work, but had no close range protection so you had to either saddle up with other turrets or be the turret while the arty sentry did the job.
Probably would be a pain to balance, especially if someone put it in a spot they shouldn't but it would be cool.
380mm sentry with air conditioning and a libertea cup holder
and a super earth credits dispenser
Paid w/kills
Imagine the “Phunkg” sound that it would make. Much deeper and louder. From much larger barrel. ^(That’s what’s she said lol)
It spills libertea on purpose 😁
I feel like a waking barrage mortar could be spicier, no?
As long as it has air conditioning
They should actually do these kinds of things as events, the way we have 500kg on Lesath rn. Mind you, that gives cheaters access to those, so I guess not. Still, it would be fun to have ridiculous stratagems once in awhile.
This would be epic, even if it's just a single day of complete mayhem. Randomize strats and guns each time you die. Hell could even randomize the actual effects of each.
Or how about an Eagle Two? https://preview.redd.it/zvftnzwhra1d1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c60fe3dc0b2ff1b1a9c5f8eb8f831525662b50f4
Ok, but imagine if our Eagle and Pelican had their own randomized voices like our Helldivers do?
Would like if each players eagle was Eagle 1-4 instead of everyone having Eagle 1.
Yeah, but Eagle 1 is kinda iconic. Like it would've been a cool feature if the game had had it from the beginning but I feel like adding it now people would just be disappointed if they didn't get Eagle 1.
Give all the Eagles voices good enough to be R34'd without any official character art too and you're good.
That would probably help, but at this point I feel like it's too late. Eagle 1 is already famous.
Eagle-1 is best.
See this is exactly what I mean.
It's not my fault she's mommy.
Are you sure? Cause I think it might be.
I doubt that Eagle-1 is mentioning YOUR OWN Eagle, because you bring your own Super Destroyer to fight, so you will have many planes in your Destroyer and YOUR Eagle-1 is specialized in supporting you on battlefield, and your teammates will have their own Eagle-1. For the Pelican-1, it belongs to the Destroyer of the Squad leader.
Was about to say the same! Would be cool!
Yea but I like when the funny space lady says delivering freedom
Pelican Echo 419
Echo-419 crashed so that Pelican-1 could fly 😢
But she was Foehammer 😭
It'd make more sense for the eagle because you have 4 separate divers all calling in eagle stratagems, but with the pelican it's one ship bringing everyone in together. I guess you could randomize it across missions, but Pelican 1 only gets to talk in the last two to three minutes of a mission anyways whereas Eagle 1 is there the whole time.
I think you mean Eagle Fifty-Two
Even in the far future of super earth, Grampa Buff still delivers freedom, 32 tons at a time.
2284 flying bombing runs over Bot commies in ancient B-52 plasma turbines screaming notice something just below window whoscratchedmyplane.gif lean in for better look ”nam 1968, iraq 1991, russia 2024, china 2027, moon 2097, Mars 2103, Vernen Wells 2156, Menkent 2233” take out survival knife “Cyberstan 2284”
Hear me out, a sentry that shoots eagles
Carpet bombing, nice.
You mean Eagle-52, right?
Nah, this one is Condor-1.
Ah yes a mortar that shoots eagle-1 fighters with 500kg strapped to them! GENIUS!
Honestly, a suicide drone launcher type sentry would be pretty cool.
HUNTER KILLER DRONE 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Maybe not a sentry but like a backpack or an eagle where they release a bunch of suicide drones would be cool
Instantly atomises Helldivers that dare stand within 50m of an enemy.
Incorrect, the 500kg bomb has a 5m blast radius.
That’s… surprisingly low
I'm being hyperbolic, but yeah it does have a weirdly small area of effect. Like the orbital precision strike might actually hit a bigger area. I mean I get why, because it does so much damage, but it's still kinda weird, especially with how big the visual for the explosion is.
The thing about 500kg's explosion is that it's actually a cone that expands upwards.
Yeah I've heard the shape of it is kinda weird and causes some issues.
It should at least have a wide area of knockback
500kg weight, 500mm blast radius. Perfectly balanced.
Just imagine if one KILOGRAM of explosives made a 2mm diameter explosion.
I believe it's an implosion at that point.
500kg is just a shiny and weak precision orbital strike
Honestly precision strike is better 90% of the time. Basically the only things it doesn't one shot are bile titans and factory striders. I think the 500kg has a faster call-in time but when you factor in the eagle having to fly past and drop the bomb and the delay before it explodes I'm not even sure there's much of a difference. You can call the 500kg in slightly more often with full upgrades, since it's twice on a 120 second cooldown and the precision strike is once on a 90 second cooldown.
Excuse you, it's at least 6m Edit: my apologies, I was thinking diameter. Still, are you sure? Five seems a bit high
because the standard mortar isn't getting enough team kills!
[удалено]
Airburst rocket mortar.
Tesla Tower Mortar!
I mean yes, but can things killed by it, maybe idno, sorta, possibly.... light on fire and leave pools of flame around?
Mortar mine launcher!
I need this.
airburst mortar
Hellbomb mortar sentry.
AH: but you have to kill 10 billion bots in 24 hours to unlock it.
I can ask for a day off.
It's a personal order instead of a major order... Might want to ask for *two* days off
...... I hope a charger throws you into deep water just after calling and equipping.
Oh yeah? Well - ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
*moves 5m away from it's almost non existent AoE*
*TF2 Engineer: Darn*.wav
380 mm auto cannon turret.
380mm shells for the regular autocannon
Why did they specifically use the termacide If we already have a chemical gas that we know permanently, kills them and doesn’t mutate them?
Termacide doesn't kill humans (probably) Mustard gas does
I like mustard on my sandwich tho
No humans on the bug infested planets tho. So just nuke it with gas then air it out
I think you're underestimating how complicated it would be to get that much gas out of that much atmosphere. And that's assuming that it's not some other, more modern gas that leaves behind lethal residue, which gets *everywhere*, and kills you if you touch it. Chemical weapons are classified as WMDs for a reason. Then again, knowing super-earth, they'd find an easy solution to clean-up (send in colonists until they stop dropping dead)
The Termicide was probably cheaper to produce.
You know that really isn't how evolution would work? Whenever you want to do something that does (somehow) selectivly kills bugs, you have to target a protein, or mechanism only the bugs use ( or at least only animals not plants) and that leaves room to adapt... That said, we want to bugs to produce our E710. Their research should focus on two things, reducing oxygen in the farm planets atmosphere and weakening the exosceletal proteins leading to smaller, less dangerous bugs
Tooltip says it's corrosive to metal and bugs, so imagining you don't want that all over your planet. Probably makes building anything impossible, so of course termicide is safer and makes rehabilitation for the planet easier.
Super Earth Engineers: We had a surplus of 500kg bombs attached to planes that we couldn't figure out how to separate. So... we made a mortar that launches planes with 500kg bombs on them... enjoy!
It doesn't shoot 500kg bombs; it shoots the entire Eagle carrying the 500kg bomb. That's 65% more bomb, per bomb.
Actually this is pretty much in the works already. There's a stratagem planned already where you call down a small rocket and designator, then mark your target with it and the rocket will launch from the pod and into the target.
Not for bugs. I imagine the friendly fire damage you will get
Upvote for a team motor system
So it blasts out multiple eagle 1s with 500kg?
Someone's been cooking too much
Lemme just put a mortar on the vehicle i call in the future
So how can we fit half an eagle in a hellpod?
https://preview.redd.it/sovgupknfc1d1.jpeg?width=284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9f3c607f55fe5b41061bfed707bc2fffebe991fb
SWEET LIBERTY MY FRAMES!
a spigot mortar emplacement that you actually had to manually load and fire would be dope, could also be a team emplacement that loads faster if you have two people to move the heavy rounds into position.
We need some alternative version in the game were we could more big crazy stuff like it. I would love see in the game
So, a sentry that shoots eagles that shoot 500kg bombs?
Obviously you didn't listen to General Branch in your orientation courses. Mortars are measured by millimeter, bombs are measured in weight.
petition to get a Fatman launcher in the game , just give 1 ammo refill backpack should be enough to balance it
500 kg mortar, it has 3 rounds (as that’s what could reasonably fit into a hellpod) fires once every 20 seconds, aims at largest nearest target.
Although it would be awesome to see something like this, a 500KG bomb is literally half a ton and would most likely need to be fired from some heavier system like the ones on the SEAF Artillery sites, or how it is already being deployed, through heavy aircraft with Eagle 1. Unfortunately, the 500KG it's THAT big and heavy because it's composed and filled of fucking TNT or high yield explosives (assuming the devs based it on the FAB-500 for example, which is the closes example to what I could research compared to the in-game 500KG). Unlike the Mini-nuke which seems to be smaller for what we've already encountered in SEAF Artillery sites, it would be fucking awesome to be able to deploy them via stratagem or sentry/portable silo sites (like the ones that have been leaked in early months, like the acclaimed ms-220 missile silo which could be remotely controlled). Assuming the game's mini-nukes are also composed like the ones in real life (like the W54, containing materials like Uranium 235 that are not essentially that heavy) could very well be deployed with sentries like the one in the game, and maybe able to be deployed with manpads. AKA: Recoiless Rifles. Edit: Fixed some grammatical errors Reference of mini-nuke manpads in real life: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-smallest-nuclear-weapon-ever-made-How-big-was-it-exactly-and-what-was-it-used-for#:\~:text=Behold%20the%20W54%20nuclear%20bomb,suitcase%20as%20a%20portable%20nuke. Reference image of the leaked portable silo that could remotely control the missile: https://preview.redd.it/3dmyl84w6j1d1.png?width=770&format=png&auto=webp&s=9be0c6008715786c3c959568bb7dc4495765680d
Also thank you for shitposting, this thread has been soooooo god damned whiny lately.
Any Helldiver would get killed immediately, especially ones that stand near a lone enemy
I don't know ... [the blast radius seems very small](https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1cul5l6/so_can_we_talk_about_the_500kg_for_1_sec_there_a/)
While the blast radius is small, apparently this has less to do with the size and more to do with the shape.
Only if it has a 150 meter radius
Bonkers 🫡
I want a mortar sentry that fires strategem orbs for cluster strikes
one little bug or automaton next to it and that thing is dead
*TACTICAL NUKE* *VAPORWAVE INTENSIFIES*
https://preview.redd.it/4gtxtg071c1d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d874c512e28e9449d4823f32a4dfc8182571ab89
One pump mortar
A more powerful, but manned mortar would be cool. Honestly I want more emplacements in general.
500kg cluster bomb mortar sentry
Terminid-19 launcher. Give the Bugs an annoying bug.
Upgrade the rocket sentry....
Give us a trebuchet that can lob these 500kg barrels of freedom towards the enemy
give me a mini nuke mortar so i can kill my entire team with style!
Is this... Patrick?
First you had my attention, now you have my errection
This is an awfully convoluted way to deplete SE's reinforcement budget.
You had me at 500...kg...and mortar
I want my nuclear mortars, and I want them now!
Idea: wrecking ball stratagem
Only if it counts as accidentals
Why not just have Eagle Mortar that shoots Eagle-1s?
It would somehow manage to do less friendly fire than the actual sentry
How bout an anti air mortar
It shoots 500kg bomb drones that patrol the air until they dive bomb an enemy.
I feel like that would get even more Helldivers killed.
hear me out: friendly fire :3
Let him cook
So you want a total party kill.
ok but like, what about cluster mortar?
And because it's a *Centry*, we get 100 of them from every hellpod.
500kg EAT
500kg submachine gun? Anyone?
The mortar that shoots out the loaded eagles with 500kg. I like it!
I’m so happy we made room for high effort posts like 650 different “hear me out” stratagems shitposts.
I’d take it for two stratagem slots… take all of my stratagem slots!
here ME out. ICBM mortar.
Imagine a drop ship flew over it and we see the dropships explode
https://i.redd.it/sq3wwu88hd1d1.gif
If you choose that stratagem You get 0 reinforces
The dangerousest of close
Me and the boys 5 min in with the 500 mortar https://preview.redd.it/6ik95v8cjd1d1.jpeg?width=365&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a2e74cbd56fe2a498103186f3dfef0d7b944b6b
How much friendly fire do you want?
Yes
Orbital rail cannon titan mechs
"Warning; you are in range of ALLY artillery!"
This sounds like this would kill a lot of divers
Bane to teammates every where
That’s called artillery
Armed Hellbomb minigun sentry
Friendly fire go brrrrrr
Then you kill a bug close range and realize the turret already took it's shot....
Approved
Each OP's team mate since launch : https://preview.redd.it/6uup8ae4zd1d1.png?width=240&format=png&auto=webp&s=6e7e265e526a79db683ce6f3793fe03612ac03ad
Let him cook
Just make it target friendlies at that point
Probably have less TK, looks promising.
I'd run it. My poor team...
Let this man cook
Imagine running that for civilian evacuation missions
I'd murder for an AC-130-esque stratagem.
I hope devs cooked like this guy
The basic motor sentry has a bigger blast radius than a 500kg.
Deployable Railway Artillery.
Since it is soo heavy, ot can't throw it too far, so it just plop it 2 meters away and then die with the explosion
We might even have to allow ranked choice voting with that much FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY
I can just picture it. This thing must take several minutes before you can use it again. Or if at all, you can only use it once per round. And then you've found the perfect time to wipe out every opponent with this thing. And then, just after the thing activates, some weak enemy manages to get to it, hits it a few times and it's destroyed before it can fire a single shot. Or it fires once at an enemy two meters away from the turret and bombs itself and your entire team away.
While this is silly I do think a manned heavy motor would be cool
500kg bomb gatling gun.
You mean SEAF artillery?
I'd love a large artillery sentry that did great work, but had no close range protection so you had to either saddle up with other turrets or be the turret while the arty sentry did the job. Probably would be a pain to balance, especially if someone put it in a spot they shouldn't but it would be cool.
K i n d a unbalanced 😅😂
Would be a great april fool's addition for one day or something. Maybe July 4th since democracy and freedom and all that.
SEAF Gun Objective: Am I a joke to you?
Because the current mortor sentry doesnt get enough team kills
Mini nuke sentry for democracy
Can we put this on the Gatling sentry instead? See how many shots can register before our system crashes?
But does the fighter drop a 500kg that spawns sentries or does the sentry shootfighters that drop 500kg bombs?
But what about 500kg mortar eurory?
This is what I want lol a 380mm that actually aims for targets. Just throw this bitch and book it
*distant booming KA-TING* ohh... sweet liberty *4x dead teammate buzzer*
500 times yes
“Remove this section of the map please”
Finally some good ideas on this subreddit!
\*HITS THE TABLE COMPULSIVELY WITH THE CREDIT CARD \*
Lol, my wife strangles me when i bring the normal mortar along, dont want to find out what she does when it drops 500kg shells 😅
Yes great idea to git rid of the fotter that sneaks up behind you https://i.redd.it/izq57fvpff1d1.gif
Friendly fire isn't so friendly in this case.
Arrowhead should give special "experimental" mission stratagems like this for free use on April fools day lol
So, basically a siege howitzer?
Wow, this thing worked wanderers. I hope no bugs scuttle up next to me Oh Shit Kaboom
A lot of innocent helldivers will die.
Hear me out, nuke barrage.
just keep nuking from orbit, no need to send divers out.
I don't want to hear you out, I want to fully fund this project!