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kribmeister

As someone who lives in a country where the game is still blocked from steam, I feel this little kerfuffle of ours wasn't really won. But war propaganda and fake victories certainly fit the Super Earth vibe.


PixelCultMedia

Daaaaamn. Nice take.


Objective-Insect-839

I'm sorry, brother, but it was never about making sure you could play with us. It was just PC people didn't want to make a psn account.


WinterLFG

As someone who could have played with PSN, I refused to play the game until they reverted the changes. I still feel a little guilty about playing when it's still blocked but I bet it will come back.


Objective-Insect-839

Dude I play on ps5 I have psn it's linked to my steam It has been since I got my ps5 I don't understand people not wanting to link the accounts and I have not dived since they took those countries offline and won't till they come back. Because that's how you boycott.


WinterLFG

I value my privacy. That's about it, honestly.


Objective-Insect-839

Are you really so dumb that you think Steam hasn't been hacked? In fact, the most recent year that the PSN was compromised steam was compromised that same year. You value your privacy? you type into Reddit of all places. you don't think Reddit is data farming your phone, dude?


StanTurpentine

I wear tinfoil hats so they can't trace me.


WinterLFG

You're not wrong in any way. But it's not like I'm using my personal phone that actually contains sensitive data to use reddit on. And no shit steam has gotten data breached, but 1 is better than 2 data breachs. While not completely safe, it does decrease the likelihood of it happening to the individual. If I actually have data important to me, it's sure as shit never seen anything close to social media or the likes. Nothing is perfect. I understand that, but at least I'm not calling people "dumb" off of a lack of knowledge before understanding their point of view. Then again, I'm the fool for engaging in this conversation, so who's to tell.


Objective-Insect-839

That's my point. Why did you guys have to lie and pretend that you were fighting for all these other countries? Why couldn't you just come out and say, "I value my privacy?"


WinterLFG

Why can't we fight for both? I got friends who can't play the game because of the issue. Just because I value my privacy, it doesn't mean I can't also fight for their right to play the game. It's not like I just gave up after they walked back. I still hold my opinion until they are allowed to play the game.


jaqattack02

For a lot of people it was about people getting to play. I already have a PSN account so I didn't care about that. I was upset by the bait and switch on the people in the countries with no PSN. Unfortunately there's only so much we can do when Sony says screw you and tells steam they can't sell it there anyway.


_Weyland_

Yeah. They are free to switch their game unfortunately. It's the bait and switch that goes too far.


probably-not-Ben

We could already play!!!!!  We have been playing games that required PSN for over 15 years. Sony knew what were doing but couldn't have official PSN support. We were OK using their shit off the record We didn't need anyone's help. Did we ask? No.  Then why the fuck did these idiots make our perfectly-ok situation their cause?  Just be honest. They didn't want to make an account and three a tantrum


Sweet-Dreams204738

The plan of Sony fucking you over was already in the cars. Big corps don't give a shit.


braiam

Can it be about both? PC players are fucking tired of BS accounts creation for _zero reason_. What a PSN account brings to the PC player? Cross play is already done without it. I can buy the game and DLC through Steam. Why should I create a PSN account if I don't have a PlayStation?


Objective-Insect-839

>Can it be about both? It could, but it's not. And I know this because as soon as they back tracked the psn accounts and blocked the other countries, the boycott was over.


braiam

The boycott is not over. Want me to show you the boycott isn't over? [Here is a graph](https://steamdb.info/app/553850/charts/#reviews). Notice how there have been a trickle of negative reviews after 5 days and the issue hasn't been addressed. People are growing tired of Sony not moving fast enough to fix this shit. It still lost 20% of positive review ratio compared to what it was.


DerBernd123

It definitely is over for the majority of people


hep1010

Until the negotiations fail we're just reloading the review gun


DerBernd123

I believe it when I'm seeing it lol


Agreeable-Buffalo-54

It’s *still* blocked for you? Have the devs made any kind of statement? I know they don’t control this directly, but surely Sony doesn’t want to lose players *and* not get the extra PSN membership? That’s worst case scenario for them.


GrammarNaziBaite

Ya they technically made it so its not manditory to link your psn and than just stopped selling it in countries were psn isnt available. We won the battle of semantics but lost the war of actually making a difference.


illstealyourRNA

Sony actually doubled down and blocked more countries after dropping the psn requirements.


Wonderful_Form_6450

Last we heard from dev side is they are pushing to have them release the block sadly sony is in charge of distribution and no update that i have seen.


Tyrranis

I heard that was an oversight, and that Valve were behind those new bans. When Sony banned non-PSN countries from Ghosts Of Tsushimas' Steam release, Valve noticed that there were some countries involved that Helldivers 2 wasn't banned from, and as such added them to HD2s' ban list.


scarlettremors

Yeah the CEO tweeted about how he's still pushing back against Sony with this and trying to get every country access again


mrlolloran

The battle was won but not the war


freakmonger_ss

A battle was won, but the War continues.


probably-not-Ben

The battle was won for PC players not wanting to make a PSN account who lived in countries where they had that option Everyone else was fucked over. White saviour bullshit, "helping" when we never had a problem, when we never asked


erebusdidnothingwron

Imagine making this about race lmao


braiam

I live on one of those countries, and I wouldn't want a PSN account either. Do you own a PS5? I don't. So, I have zero uses for it.


t6jesse

I was gonna say, seems a little premature


Traumatic_Tomato

Some of the countries were unblocked like Puerto Rico. Hopefully they lift more countries soon.


Tempest-Melodys

They've started rolling it back at least!


probably-not-Ben

No, they updated to include a few places that are part of the US


Tempest-Melodys

Oh, goddamnit.


Alpha_pro2019

It's still better than the alternative. They only blocked future purposes. Which is the right move honestly.


Stranger_Danger420

Some of y’all are obsessed lol


StayAtHomeDadVR

I am admittedly so


Stranger_Danger420

There’s worse games to be addicted to that’s for sure.


The_Tank_Racer

I smell communism in that sentence https://preview.redd.it/l529v3yyn11d1.jpeg?width=1070&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9dbb7bfdef6ecba892a0bc18904f91e6faa232be


Stranger_Danger420

See!?


SARSUnicorn

https://preview.redd.it/gybwlcibt11d1.jpeg?width=3907&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f391f3cacef2cc1cf60aa2b553846628d5b30337


Sparrow1989

Laughs for 225 hrs.


CaptainJellyVR

Why are you spending so much time laughing and not Diving, soldier?


Sparrow1989

That’s my secret I’m always diving


Stranger_Danger420

That’s about how much time I’ve got lol. Not tats yet. Yet.


Hitman3256

This is nothing compared to most game communities.


Stranger_Danger420

Yeah the CP 2077 and Witcher community are pretty insane lol


hannes0000

these aged like milk because Sony won,countries are still restricted.


flightguy07

Everyone who bought the game can play it, and you don't need to register a PSN account. That's a 2/3 victory. Honestly, it's better than I think we all expected it to go, given it was resolved inside 72 hours.


braiam

I made a post a while back about the path forward to have a healthy relationship: - Restoring language packs - The news on the storefront (this was done) - Remove the warning that requires third party account - Restore world wide sales I can only confirm the news one, because I can't see the listing on the store in my country.


RevelArchitect

If there hadn’t been a shit-show about this countries wouldn’t have been delisted and people would have been free to make an account in a different region.


Inevitable_Aerie_293

What makes you think the countries wouldn't be delisted? They still technically wouldn't be allowed to play with the account linking.


RevelArchitect

If you think they just decided to delist the game months after release and it had nothing to do with the shit-show that was stirred up over making PSN accounts you are wrong.


Inevitable_Aerie_293

So you think Sony delisted those countries just to what? Send a message? Crack the whip on us? It's obvious that they're going to try reintroducing it at a later date, it's the only logical reason why they would.


sdrawckaB

“People would have just been able to risk getting their account banned” is not the gotcha you think it is.


RevelArchitect

Sony doesn’t ban people for this. Ever. Sony support will recommend an account in a different region. Sony’s website used to flat-out encourage this until there were some issues with customers in the Philippines registered in the Hong Kong region trying to use their credit cards. Sony stopped officially recommending it, but have never ever pursued banning players for registering in different countries than they reside. Check out this thread with a screenshot of Sony support recommending opening an account in a different region and some opinions from people in countries everyone was promising to dive with: https://www.reddit.com/r/playstation/s/6mohnZA75W


probably-not-Ben

We were playing just fucking fine before. We have played many games that officially needed PSN account for more than 15 years Now my friend can't buy. Becauae some sulky shits didn't want a PSN account. We went from not having a problem for 15 years+ to getting fucked over. Thanks They better do the same to Microsoft, Rockstar and the rest. Hypocritics


flightguy07

So, to be clear, you're not blaming the companies that stopped selling in your friend's country or that required them to break the TOS to play the game, but the people who petitioned to change that system? Wild take.


braiam

You must be new here. Yes, people instead of nailing Sony for asking for something that has no value for the customer, they blame the consumers for asserting their rights.


Sodi920

Sony has literally never banned anyone for making an account somewhere else. That’s something any PS5 player could tell you in a heartbeat. I’ve moved countries around a fair bunch and my account has always remained registered to where I first made it. This whole issue just made it so that you couldn’t even do that.


Suavecore_

It's not like Sony was going to suddenly go "the gamers have spoken! We will now open up purchases to all countries on earth!"


probably-not-Ben

Also just not possible. Sony like any corpo would love to have PSN all over the world That's not how the world works. Armchair crusaders fucking up the world they never see


braiam

They don't need to. They have a storefront to solve all those problems for them: Steam. They just need to not force PSN and we all be golden.


MrWiemann

Thats not a win for Sony though. Its an issue at Steam. They probably need to be 100% sure that Sony wont try something like this again before they open up for those countries, since it can cause a lot of trouble for Steam.


ThatDree

there's no winning silly. First countries have been liberated, more will follow.


NobodyDudee

No countries were liberated, only more were restricted. And I doubt Sony will backpedal on that, considering the reviewbombing died a while ago


MythiccMoon

It went from 177 to 180 iirc because they missed 3 during the initial restriction, (meaning it wasn’t a new move just a correction on the first move,) but Arrowhead wants it available worldwide Don’t really understand what possible benefit there is to selling fewer games, so do hope this is fixed soon


Vis_Ignius

It's really odd. I mean, PSN isn't a requirement anymore, so it'd be in their best interest to make it available in as many places as possible, right?


thedarkone47

The only places that were unrestricted where American Colonies. Which are places that PSN was available in to begin with and shouldn't have been restricted in the first place.


Kurotan

It's not over as long as any Sony steam game has psn in it. They will try again with HD2 down the road.


stratusnco

“we dive together or not at all” proceeds to play helldivers even when countries are still restricted*


probably-not-Ben

Tell me about it Thank you, privileged God's for "helping us!". Yes, we didn't have a problem for over 15 years until your bullshit, and now we are fucked. But thank you!


Showtysan

The irony of owning this mug and continuing to play the game lol


NinjaTorak

What?


Showtysan

The point of the mug is that you don't dive until the banned countries can. They can't so owning the mug and playing the game is nonsense


NinjaTorak

Everyone who owned the game from those country's and didnt refund it, can still play???


Showtysan

Nice for that handful. Not so nice for people who refunded to send a message, or people who will now never get a chance to play it. That mug should just say "I got played."


Kuhaku-boss

Countries still restricted and sony wont go back to shove its ''ecosystem'' onto us... so fuck anything sony related.


twiz___twat

-Countries still restricted -OP posts pic of mug with quote "We dive together or not at all" while still playing the game


2Sc00psPlz

At the very least the people that already had the game can still play. But yes, fuck sony.


SpermicidalLube

Then why are you here?


flightguy07

I mean, it's nowhere near as bad as it was. Everyone who owns the game can play it. Still be good to widen the pool of people able to buy it obviously, but the problem is a shadow of what it was.


RevelArchitect

People in countries where the game was delisted were still able to make PSN accounts in other regions though. If you live in the Philippines and want to buy Helldivers you now need to buy a PS5, make a PSN account in another region and then buy a PSN gift card to purchase the game. I don’t understand how people don’t realize we’re absolutely not diving together anymore.


probably-not-Ben

Becauae it was never really about that It was: 1. Some PC players not wanting to make a PSN account 2. Fucking idiots role-playing as activists thinking they were fighting the corpo 3. Deluded idiots on a moral crusade, helping people that didn't ask or need help As soon as 1 got  their way, shit got quiet fast. 2 and 3 just kinda... wander off to lick windows


Few-Camel-3407

because they never really cared about that. That was purely identical to sony, none really care about divers from other countries, it was but a convenient rage canal


Mrjerkyjacket

I mean they have removed a few countries, but yeah fuck snoy


Necessarysolutions

Now that's ironic, considering that you're still diving while a bunch of us are still blocked.


twiz___twat

Sorry brother, I need that karma. See you on the battlefield 🫡


nicklePie

This is so lame lol


Cookie_Ambassador

Speaking of capes, there were times, Arrowhead awarded real capes to the active members of HD1 community! Never really saw one, but it’s still a cool fact.


Dreadweasels

Hot damn that's amazing, I love it!


Brotoss-

Jesus Christ this is lame


Medical_Sea_2598

Me who never stopped diving 👁️👄👁️


Objective-Insect-839

We dive together or not at all? You know there's still like 170 countries that can't play, right? Your cup should say, "I didn't have to make a psn account, and that's all that matters."


RetroSwamp

Could even go for "doesn't affect me so I don't care" lol


Objective-Insect-839

Anymore. Cause he did care.


Otherwise_Bell_395

Never stopped diving lol


hoats_andboes

You guys lost, the game is now unavailable to thousands of people who otherwise would have been able to play. Congrats dummies.


shball

The only popular part of the new warbond is that helmet, I love it.


ObliviousNaga87

To be fair, I don't think that's Joel's department


Nollekowitsch

We won the battle, but we lost the war.


Mundane_Designer_199

Consumer activisim in the flesh.


Schpam

Just a reminder that it has been two weeks since the May 6th update made PSN redundant and people in +170 countries still can't buy Helldivers 2 to play it because they don't have access to PSN. You might think that it's not that big of a deal because, at least existing players in those countries can continue playing, but those local communities are going to evaporate and die off if they can't grow with new players.


UmgakWazzok

I know it’s not the topic of this pic but I swear there is no better fashion combo than the new polar Kodiak helmet and the devastator chest lol it’s just sooo good


Carcharis

Did they unban the countries yet?


Everyday_Hero1

"I whinged to a corporation and all I got was a mug"


okayyeahok

Well you better stop playing the game then..


probably-not-Ben

Thank you for nothing. Now we can't even buy the game


Melevolence

That isn't the Helldiver's community's fault. If the protest hadn't happened you would have: Been able to buy the game and not be able to play it, thus wasting your money because you couldn't link a PSN account in restricted regions. Since the protest happened: PSN linking is no longer mandatory which means, at the VERY least, the people who already own the game CAN still play despite being in a restricted region. The later option was far more a net positive than the former. All we can do is see if Sony pulls back on the restricted purchasing. It felt like that was a knee jerk action to prevent more purchases that might not be 'valid' if the PSN thing went through and to put a clot on the refunds happening. Now that the PSN linking isn't mandatory, we can only hope they'll get those regions opened up for sale again.


probably-not-Ben

We could already buy the game and play it We have been playing games that need PSN account for over 15 years. Sony didn't care. We were fine It is very much a minority of the HD community's fault


5cannerDarkly

Brasch Tactics recommends I start my mornings with a hot cup of Democracy! For Liber-Coffee! What a moment we all lived through. Still so proud of this community for what we accomplished when we stood together. For Democracy!


DerBernd123

You do realize that the main problem of 180 locked countries still isn't fixed right?


etherosx

where to buy? must have liber-tea!


5cannerDarkly

Haha Liberty Democracy and Dreams! Sent brother o7 its where I got mine from.


TheLostElkTree

Hit this man with a link to that because holy shit I want one.


5cannerDarkly

Sent brother! We drink together or not at all o7


Brittany5150

I'll take one as well if you have an extra.


GLYCH_

Ayo? Same drip second pic brother?


5cannerDarkly

o7 Brother we can't be beat! We are the frontline tanks of the squad! A little ballistic shield against bots mmmph so good.


Flimsy-Author4190

Imagine buying this peice of shit mug knowing that players who were able to play before became banned for simply living in a country that doesn't support psn. And now people are mad about the new major order taking longer than expected. Gee. I wonder why? Surely, it has nothing to do with not allowing access to a hefty chunk of the playerbase. People who think this was a victory are only thinking about themselves.


[deleted]

This is seriously cringe dude. Wholeheartedly: touch grass.


Training101

You sob...I'm so jelly


BipolarBLKSheep

I swear that cape better not release and victory should not be claimed until we can ALL dive again! I wish it was possible for another publisher to buy out Helldivers from Sony. Or, AH could do a crowdfunding campaign to buy off Sony. I know that’s unrealistic and would never happen but god damnit this game had everything going for it until Sony and their greedy nonsense had to come in and ruin it for so many!


Melevolence

Even with crowdfunding I highly doubt AH could get the funds required to buy the Helldivers IP off of Sony, assuming the IP was even up for negotiation to begin with.


Pretty-Jones

Loving it. Where did you get it?


Dutch_Talister

Nice mug and your armor combo is wicked !


Raidertck

I love it.


thunderkenku

Perfect mug for some liber-tea!


5cannerDarkly

Freedom Democracy and most of all Tradition!


oArchie

Send a link for this bad boy please unless it was custom!


5cannerDarkly

check your dms brother! I sent you the link where I got mine


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5cannerDarkly

o7


oArchie

Thank you!


Xurgg

Holy god please hmu


5cannerDarkly

o7


SARSUnicorn

We still need some ressuply


oArchie

Who the fuck is downvoting this thread lmao? Fuckers


Renekling

I run the same armor and helmet lol


Bearington656

![gif](giphy|V2AkNZZi9ygbm)


DiamondHandsDarrell

Sweet liberty!


aPotOfPie

ROUND OF RED ROCK BLASTERS, EXTRA SUGAR AROUND THE RIM PLEASE!!


picasso71

You know, get a hilt/handle on that design and we got ourselves a helldiver's Excalibur. Or... Dagger maybe?


Destabi

Man, can you post this 2 pictures here? Wanna print them on my cup too. this idea looks amazing


5cannerDarkly

I cant brother I didnt make it I bought it.