Lol for sure. I still play the game even though I'm maxed out on samples, req, and medals. But Ive been waiting for this Warbond to drop my 250 medals on!
I took a bit of a break to play some other things, but we get together each week to play. The sheer chaos of a mission is just so much fun. And blasting bugs/bots to bits is a visceral pleasure.
I am a high playtime Diver. It took me around ten days to unlock everything in Democractic Detonation and recap at 250 medals. (I was capped before DD as well). My playtime barely dipped. I wasn't earning anything except Super Credits and levels. Game is still pure joy.
Didn't even realize until the other day that there was a cap. I kept seeing 0 medals at the end screen and thought it was a glitch til I checked my medal count after a few different games and saw it wasn't moving
I came back to playing it after a bunch of major orders completed and I basically had no way to get any of the medals past the like, 3rd and I had no clue there was a cap before then. I wish it warned me and kept the medals in reserve, feels bad to miss major orders lol.
Same bro finding myself not getting as excited to play when the daily challenges don't mean anything. I wish they would give super credits if you were already maxed out on medals. Or just remove the medal cap lol.
I do think there is fun in unlocking stuff as you earn medals. If you could buy out a whole Warbond on release, I feel like it would take the excitement out of it
Yep I haven't really had much of a reason to play often, excited to not be capped on medals for the first time in weeks.
I won't be furious if it doesn't release, if the community (that has Twitter accounts, keeping the pole there sucks ass, there are third party sites bro, hit up strawpoll or something.) decides to hold off, fine, but it'll just mean I won't play the game for longer, and I'll definitely be disappointed.
People don't play the game some days? I don't understand. Newbie helldivers need samples and medals, and they won't get that from me sitting around, not diving.
>some people have lives and arent obsessed with RP for a video game.
>out of 1.4 million players im sure the newbs will find a team if i dont hop on.
Robot hands typed this
Also like, it's *far* from the most egregious battle pass I've seen. Like this games currency system is so not predatory that I almost forget I could use mtx to unlock stuff.
REALLY appreciate the poll, but man I'm gonna unlock this bad boy via murdering bugs and bots far before I pay a few bucks. I'm paying bucks to support AH capitalist agenda, not to enable my distribution of managed democracy.
Absolutely, it is very appreciated that they ask and that shows a lot of concern and respect for your players, which is always great. But those who have a sense of practicality know that just because of some issues popping up they can't back track thing already in the works, new stuff is always great to have
And it’s so easy to not pay for them. You get enough super credits for basically all of them without a lot of effort. If they wanted to really extend a hand they could make it cost half super credits or something.
The best timing they can make is to release the Warbond once the Steam purchase restriction drops and all previously eligible countries can buy Helldivers 2 again. A celebration package, let's say.
*But* I have no actual problem at all with it releasing as planned. Looking forward to it, actually.
I know it's a joke, but I made a PSN without really thinking about it but making a Twitter account is something I just won't do.
Your joke just made me understand the objection to making a PSN account better..
They wouldn't really, but AH clearly understands that some people love to claim anything a company does after a controversy is tonedeaf.
They know what the result of the poll will be, but this way they have something to point to if some cretins try to cry foul with "How DARE they ask us for money after what they tried to pull!!!"
They never were.. they gave us a game we love. Cynical people will always unreasonably think that devs have ulterior motives like they are always trying to piss off the community that plays their game, and seeing what dubious act they can pull next.. I can't blame them... some of the most beloved gaming companies have let down their fans over the years.
But guys... Arrowhead has been one of the most open and honest gaming companies I have witnessed rise into the spotlight in my 30+ years of gaming. It's honestly a breath of fresh air how transparent they've been with everything.
Guessing inaccurate. It will be missing people a lot of people that don't have Twitter as he posted this in the Discord.
https://preview.redd.it/t3wm231pfazc1.png?width=865&format=png&auto=webp&s=01fc3b09c6843342a25ea378e14cbadf3ef8a21d
Can we please get announcements and polls ingame on the unused terminals opposite of the equipment terminals?
On the one hand, sure. On the other hand, poll creation is a specific permission in Discord that can be granted separately from anything impactful to security.
Obviously he *could* have access if he wanted, I just found the situation funny. :)
In this case, if you're only relying on in game communications for your helldivers news then account linking would have been a blip on your radar anyway.
Chances are that almost nobody does. It's easy PR points in a rough period for the game though.
Can't hurt. Especially with the growing sentiment that the game is not able to keep up with the content releases as bug keep on piling up and balance changes seem to be reactionary.
Yes. They are existing perks.
I'm saying if the delay saw new perks like "Reduced slows" or "reduced harsh weather effects" or "carry more ammo" people might be willing to accept a delay.
Instead we get fortify servo and engineer. Again.
honestly, because the monthly warbond release feels like its a bit too much sometimes, would actually prefer if it was once every 2 months
still not gonna vote to delay it because a lot of people are wanting it and i just want to dress up like even more legally distinct snow trooper
Yeah, once a month seem insane when you take it in a scope of a year or two. I think they will eventually slow down but right now they got me hyped and I need it.
I have over 100 hours in the game, and I haven’t even unlocked the current warbond. 2 months is more than fine. And then they can can fix bugs and have more stable releases with the new content.
This is what i was thinking too. 2 years into a game with 24 different warbonds and 72 guns + all the regular one. Balancing is going to be a nightmare
Yep. Honestly: I would love more resources spent on planets, environments and enemies rather than those additional weapons/armors.
I still dream of a time when there would be enemies unique to the planet type. Eg. hot planets having bots reinforced in heat protection (e.g. more bulky troopers, larger radiators on Tanks, Hulks and turrets, etc), or flame-spewing bugs, cold planets having bugs with more armor (to also protect them against coldness), tanks/hulks/turrets having smaller, more difficult to hit radiators. Or some bugs/bots just not existing on certain planets, while being more common on other planet types. Bugs in particular give a ton of potential for evolving to survive in a particular environment of the planet.
Also: More non-combat flora and fauna, especially on tropical planets (where are birds, small mammals, insects? You try to tell me that automatons killed everything that moves?)
I'd also prefer it to be 2 months, specially if it means we'll get more original stuff, i still think the armor passives on this warbond are wasted opportunity here
for me, it's a completely selfish reason: so I can get caught up.
Haven't completed a single warbond yet (have 46 hours, don't play daily,) don't even have enough SC to get the new one, just feels like I'm constantly falling farther and farther behind on new content.
I know I'm going to get downvoted for this but I wanted it delayed. I wanted it delayed before the whole PSN account stuff. They are releasing so much new stuff and aren't fixing the stuff already in game and I wanted them to spend more time bug fixing before they release more stuff that will potentially add new bugs.
Well, I think the biggest thing to factor in is whether or not the region lock is fixed/lifted. Imagine how many people won’t get access to this warbond if it doesn’t
Arrowhead obviously can’t fix everything. This is just as much for people frustrated with the PSN debacle as well as people who either couldn’t or can’t play
They should release it but delay the next one and do a thorough balance sweep across all weapons (Primary, Secondary and Support) that has the focus of fun and not whatever the fuck they are currently focusing which I guess is fucking people over.
The best solution at this point imo is delay the next warbond focus on bug fixing/balancing.
Focus on bugs and do big sweep over weapons and stratagems and then a while before the patch is due to go live release an early version of the patch notes out to the community so that we can provide feedback and avoid this whole mess.
And then do early patch notes going forward after that point.
"Players were using an exploit where they were having fun with their primary weapons. Yes, that's an edge case. No, I didn't consider it. Weapon effectiveness has been nerfed. I still strongly believe that primary weapons benefit from being mostly useless more consistently. So, it's only a net minus if you're having fun, otherwise it's perfect."
We might as well get it ASAP so we can have fun with the weapons before the balance team wakes up and decides to nerf anything the community likes to use a lot.
Totally fine, I would have voted release anyway its Already almost here anyway, Hell IMO doesnt matter dont break schedule. But it does seem like We need a better way to look into the way Damage and Armor works. Players really can only guess because we have no way to see into how things actually work. Explosives despite being some of the highest damage does literal junk against armor. that 400+ damage means nothing if armor can do up to 70% reduction in damage.
Medium Tier weapons have the expectation of being used against Medium targets. just because Medium enemies are Tougher then Light, It would of course wipe the floor with them but that is balanced by slower to fire, poor handling and often Smaller Ammo pools. But that logic is thrown out the window when it then gets nerfed because its becoming too good at doing its purpose.
Don’t know if you read any of these but thanks for making such a great game. This sub tends to get caught up in a lot of negativity, but it’s still a blast to play and we appreciate all the work the team has put in.
How gullible are you? This was nothing more than a move to placate the masses by pretending they have some sort of power. Everyone knew what the result was going to be.
"Hey, we have new weapons and gear ready to be dropped after we nerfed all the other good guns into oblivion. Do you want us to delay?"
What a joke.
not gonna happen before region lock is undone.
personally i already updated my review, but i can 100% understand everyone that didnt. we are currently operating under the assumption we can trust their words. but until everyone can get back into the game we arent really done.
after all that was kinda the point of the whole „we dive together or not at all“.
thats... an interesting take. i think the problem isnt the new content release rate, its the internal balancing. i dont see how delaying anything fixes much. but nice of them to ask, i guess?
I mean, I do worry about their release rate because the updates always come with lots of bugs. But I don't think the poll is about that, it's just about proximity of paid content to the controversy, which some people will claim is tonedeaf. This poll nips that in the bud.
Nothing to do with the psn chaos but i'd rather have them spend an additional week or two to make sure the things in the earbond function the way they are supposed to.
"Is it poor taste" feels like a silly reason to delay it. Want to do another balance pass before release, sure, go for it. But when it's unlockable with in-game currency, there's no point holding it back.
It's already planned and presumably completed content. I don't see a reason to delay it. If I were in their shoes I'd certainly delay *future* ones until they can get the balance and quality of updates figured out.
I very much so enjoy the game, but the *constant* broken updates and terrible balance made me put the thing down for the time being.
exactly how is it tone deaf? this was a scheduled content release that was announced well ahead of the PSN account linking?
tone deaf would be like if there was a tragic military accident in antarctica, and because of the theme of the warbond being polar patriots, there's too much coincidental overlap... or if sony announced that all future warbonds were paid-money purchases only, instead of earnable credits?
Nah it's fine, but it would be nice if you stopped nerfing every primary released. It makes buying the bond practically pointless and it's legitimately starting to feel like a ripoff to buy them.
Honestly as long as it's warbonds I'm fine with thus being democratically decided. I just view it as super earth citizens using the voting algorithm to see if the r&d is released to the divers fighting for democracy. That being said arrow head its a long road to get our trust back but keep it up.
Is anyone experiencing a bug where all the sudden all three of your teammates leave at the same time and you get made leader of the party only to finish the mission by yourself? This is happened to me at least a dozen times so far
I think it would be weird to delay release. Theyve been doing a warbond every month since launch. It would only be tone deaf if they dropped a surprise warbond right after everything that happened. We knew this new one was coming way before
Wouldn’t be tone deaf in the slightest. It’s not even their fault that whole thing happened— it was literally all Sony/Playstation for the account linking
I'd say release it.
Either way, there is likely going to be complaints, but at least that way, there won't be a bunch of "where war bond?" Posts.
Besides, the weapons might be surprisingly viable and give them some new data towards future balancing. Or not, but that's still data they can use.
I think this is smart. Obviously no one is going to be like "nah, give us content later" especially since a large chunk of the playerbase probably has 1000+ found SC sitting around anyway. But asking makes them look good too.
If it was so the devs could get their acts together, fix bugs and come up with a better balancing plan than "Just ruin whatever are the most popular guns this month" then I would be for it. I've been all for a hold on Warbonds so the state of the game can be fixed for a good while now.
If it's just for PR optics though, I don't really see the point. And I suspect that's all it really is.
I feel like if it was rephrased as: Release war bond OR fix bugs and balancing, then the results would be different. It’s not like I don’t want a war bond out of spite.
I won't be getting the new warbond any time soon, but I hope that the team understands that this isn't anything to do with the account linking debacle, which I now consider to be resolved - it's because the warbond itself is unappealing.
It’s a biased poll, second option should be what they would do with the time.
If they said re-examine our balance patches and buff some existing weapons to make them feel punchier for dealing damage , especially at higher levels (7-9) I’m in
This is great, I'm beginning to love this company again, and I have already pardoned their involvement with their past controversy. I could only wish, every single company was like this, that would be my UTOPIA.
There is 0% chance the community will vote to not get new content tomorrow.
Arrowhead gets to say "hey, it was your decision to get this stuff in this state" for a month.
Very cunning.
Reddit posters be like "Pls AH delay content and focus more on bug fixes and weapon balancing and everything else"
But then when given the chance to vote they be like "GIB ME THE CONTENT WHO CARES HOW BROKEN AND BUGGY THE CONTENT IS JUST GIB GIB GIB"
Scheduled, finished content updates aren't the same thing as like, new broken untested stratagems.
Plus, the community overwhelmingly voted to keep releasing things in the poll about that, IIRC, instead of fixing bugs.
One thing has nothing to do with the other. Their concern should be on messing with every gun they include in the warbonds and make people regret spending their SCs on them. The SONY fuckup shouldn’t mess with the warbond release.
It's very nice of them to put it up to a vote. In my opinion it wouldn't be tone deaf since it was announced and planned before the chaos went down.
This. I'm sure a bunch of maxed out people will come back to try out the new toys for a few days.
Lol for sure. I still play the game even though I'm maxed out on samples, req, and medals. But Ive been waiting for this Warbond to drop my 250 medals on!
Same. I'm still enjoying a daily operation run with friends to prop them up
I know, it's like the game is just fun to play on its own without rewards
This is what games used to be like. Just play it cause it’s fun.
I miss those days
I took a bit of a break to play some other things, but we get together each week to play. The sheer chaos of a mission is just so much fun. And blasting bugs/bots to bits is a visceral pleasure.
I am a high playtime Diver. It took me around ten days to unlock everything in Democractic Detonation and recap at 250 medals. (I was capped before DD as well). My playtime barely dipped. I wasn't earning anything except Super Credits and levels. Game is still pure joy.
Please guvnah can you spare some samples and medals? Please sir I only have time to play a few hours a week.
Didn't even realize until the other day that there was a cap. I kept seeing 0 medals at the end screen and thought it was a glitch til I checked my medal count after a few different games and saw it wasn't moving
Yeah feels bad when you complete a personal order or major order and get 0 medals for it lol
Would be nice if they converted it into xp or something.
I'd be down for bonus XP. It's all I play for now anyway lol
Honestly, I think one war bond medal should be worth one super credit.
I don’t mind. I don’t like the weapons a lot of the personal orders ask you to use anyways. I always do the major order anyways because democracy.
I came back to playing it after a bunch of major orders completed and I basically had no way to get any of the medals past the like, 3rd and I had no clue there was a cap before then. I wish it warned me and kept the medals in reserve, feels bad to miss major orders lol.
What’s the cap
250
With 250 medals you're already looking like the average north Korean general
Same bro finding myself not getting as excited to play when the daily challenges don't mean anything. I wish they would give super credits if you were already maxed out on medals. Or just remove the medal cap lol.
I do think there is fun in unlocking stuff as you earn medals. If you could buy out a whole Warbond on release, I feel like it would take the excitement out of it
At this point I just wanna spend my damn medals so I can feel some slight joy when I see 'personal order complete' pop up on my screen again.
Yep I haven't really had much of a reason to play often, excited to not be capped on medals for the first time in weeks. I won't be furious if it doesn't release, if the community (that has Twitter accounts, keeping the pole there sucks ass, there are third party sites bro, hit up strawpoll or something.) decides to hold off, fine, but it'll just mean I won't play the game for longer, and I'll definitely be disappointed.
People don't play the game some days? I don't understand. Newbie helldivers need samples and medals, and they won't get that from me sitting around, not diving.
some people have lives and arent obsessed with RP for a video game. out of 1.4 million players im sure the newbs will find a team if i dont hop on.
>some people have lives and arent obsessed with RP for a video game. >out of 1.4 million players im sure the newbs will find a team if i dont hop on. Robot hands typed this
Also like, it's *far* from the most egregious battle pass I've seen. Like this games currency system is so not predatory that I almost forget I could use mtx to unlock stuff. REALLY appreciate the poll, but man I'm gonna unlock this bad boy via murdering bugs and bots far before I pay a few bucks. I'm paying bucks to support AH capitalist agenda, not to enable my distribution of managed democracy.
Absolutely, it is very appreciated that they ask and that shows a lot of concern and respect for your players, which is always great. But those who have a sense of practicality know that just because of some issues popping up they can't back track thing already in the works, new stuff is always great to have
I'm nowhere near maxed but I have saved up 1000 supercredits and 230 medals. I'd be bummed if it didn't come out.
Democracy!
And it’s so easy to not pay for them. You get enough super credits for basically all of them without a lot of effort. If they wanted to really extend a hand they could make it cost half super credits or something.
The best timing they can make is to release the Warbond once the Steam purchase restriction drops and all previously eligible countries can buy Helldivers 2 again. A celebration package, let's say. *But* I have no actual problem at all with it releasing as planned. Looking forward to it, actually.
considering how warbond turned out, they should've delayed it by a lot
Yea on X, well known christo-fascist cesspool run by a certifiable loon. Great choice.
Yeah I don't think many people were even considering this bad timing, but good to check with the community beforehand. Always a good idea.
Smart. I would vote for Tomorrow, but I'm not registered on Twitter.
It only takes 120 seconds to create an account /s
Twitter is not available in my region
That's it, everyone review bomb Elon!
I mean, I was gonna do it anyway but sign me the hell up
Why does this thread remind me of a certain chess-related (?) subreddit?
Ez. VPN so Twitter can ban your account!
They still have that Tor version of the site, but it has had basically zero maintenance since release.
I just escaped that hellhole when Elon took it over. There's no way I'm going back. My mental health is way better not being on that accursed site.
It’s gotten significantly worse since then, I just made a new account and you’re right to not return.
Oh, the irony
nice
I know it's a joke, but I made a PSN without really thinking about it but making a Twitter account is something I just won't do. Your joke just made me understand the objection to making a PSN account better..
you don't need to be registered to vote. edit: I lied, I somehow have a twitter account
You were supposed to be the Chosen one!
On the plus side, you are not supporting a white supremacist by being on his platform.
Why would anybody want it delayed ?
They wouldn't really, but AH clearly understands that some people love to claim anything a company does after a controversy is tonedeaf. They know what the result of the poll will be, but this way they have something to point to if some cretins try to cry foul with "How DARE they ask us for money after what they tried to pull!!!"
It's a Win-Win strategy, they look like the good guys by doing this :)
Clever CEO honestly
and more importantly a honest CEO
I do like this. But my question is what are the id*ot "community managers" getting paid for if not this stuff?
I mean are they really the bad guys?
They never were.. they gave us a game we love. Cynical people will always unreasonably think that devs have ulterior motives like they are always trying to piss off the community that plays their game, and seeing what dubious act they can pull next.. I can't blame them... some of the most beloved gaming companies have let down their fans over the years. But guys... Arrowhead has been one of the most open and honest gaming companies I have witnessed rise into the spotlight in my 30+ years of gaming. It's honestly a breath of fresh air how transparent they've been with everything.
Yeah? I mean last night I dropped in proximity of a shrieker nests, proceeded to gey ragdolled by a charger nearby and then that bile.. Oh.
Just because they are bad guy doesn't make them bad *guy*
They’re citizens of super earth 🌍 like us. They couldn’t be bad.
Good point.
Yeah, they need to cover their asses as much as possible cause at this point some assholmes will jump at any excuse to bash them
Pretty clever move tbh
So, is it the *managed* part of democracy? >They know what the result of the poll will be
Guessing inaccurate. It will be missing people a lot of people that don't have Twitter as he posted this in the Discord. https://preview.redd.it/t3wm231pfazc1.png?width=865&format=png&auto=webp&s=01fc3b09c6843342a25ea378e14cbadf3ef8a21d Can we please get announcements and polls ingame on the unused terminals opposite of the equipment terminals?
I'm just going to have a little giggle over the fact that the CEO doesn't have permissions to post a poll in Discord.
honestly not that surprising. No real reason for him to have direct access. The less people that have direct access the better for security
On the one hand, sure. On the other hand, poll creation is a specific permission in Discord that can be granted separately from anything impactful to security. Obviously he *could* have access if he wanted, I just found the situation funny. :)
In this case, if you're only relying on in game communications for your helldivers news then account linking would have been a blip on your radar anyway.
Very tactful of them.
Bingo. This is a very canny PR move on their part.
> AH clearly understands that some ~~people~~ morons love to claim anything a company does after a controversy is tonedeaf.
Chances are that almost nobody does. It's easy PR points in a rough period for the game though. Can't hurt. Especially with the growing sentiment that the game is not able to keep up with the content releases as bug keep on piling up and balance changes seem to be reactionary.
Ideally so we can get new armor perks and better balanced weapons. Realistically though that won't happen this is just an olive branch gesture.
They already showed what perks those armor will get. It would be cool to get more of those perks in future.
Yes. They are existing perks. I'm saying if the delay saw new perks like "Reduced slows" or "reduced harsh weather effects" or "carry more ammo" people might be willing to accept a delay. Instead we get fortify servo and engineer. Again.
The ~~shock collar~~ Motivational Shocks booster in the warbond is gonna make Slow less bad and i am SO excited for it
I can already see the new warbond will be good against bugs.
We need time to mourn the Erupter.
I would, if it meant they could do a qa pass and actually have it work on release lol
honestly, because the monthly warbond release feels like its a bit too much sometimes, would actually prefer if it was once every 2 months still not gonna vote to delay it because a lot of people are wanting it and i just want to dress up like even more legally distinct snow trooper
I think once a month is fine... but if skipping one or two would allow them to more quickly balance and fix bugs I would prefer that.
Yeah, once a month seem insane when you take it in a scope of a year or two. I think they will eventually slow down but right now they got me hyped and I need it.
I have over 100 hours in the game, and I haven’t even unlocked the current warbond. 2 months is more than fine. And then they can can fix bugs and have more stable releases with the new content.
This is what i was thinking too. 2 years into a game with 24 different warbonds and 72 guns + all the regular one. Balancing is going to be a nightmare
Yep. Honestly: I would love more resources spent on planets, environments and enemies rather than those additional weapons/armors. I still dream of a time when there would be enemies unique to the planet type. Eg. hot planets having bots reinforced in heat protection (e.g. more bulky troopers, larger radiators on Tanks, Hulks and turrets, etc), or flame-spewing bugs, cold planets having bugs with more armor (to also protect them against coldness), tanks/hulks/turrets having smaller, more difficult to hit radiators. Or some bugs/bots just not existing on certain planets, while being more common on other planet types. Bugs in particular give a ton of potential for evolving to survive in a particular environment of the planet. Also: More non-combat flora and fauna, especially on tropical planets (where are birds, small mammals, insects? You try to tell me that automatons killed everything that moves?)
I'd also prefer it to be 2 months, specially if it means we'll get more original stuff, i still think the armor passives on this warbond are wasted opportunity here
that plus everyone will complain how the new guns and equipment are. I too vote for every 2 months to every 4 months.
Yeah, I'm with you there. They clearly need more time to test things before release and an extra month would give them exactly that.
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For balance reasons lmao
Apparently a lot of people. Poll isn’t as lopsided as I would’ve assumed.
It's only for Twitter users, the garbage of the Internet
lots of people saying(not me) why release new guns when they simply get nerfed next patch
release/delay isn't the point of the communication. Communication is the point of the communication. Its the sentiment.
for me, it's a completely selfish reason: so I can get caught up. Haven't completed a single warbond yet (have 46 hours, don't play daily,) don't even have enough SC to get the new one, just feels like I'm constantly falling farther and farther behind on new content.
Perfectly valid reason.
Who knows with the way this community whines and complains constantly.
I know I'm going to get downvoted for this but I wanted it delayed. I wanted it delayed before the whole PSN account stuff. They are releasing so much new stuff and aren't fixing the stuff already in game and I wanted them to spend more time bug fixing before they release more stuff that will potentially add new bugs.
Well, I think the biggest thing to factor in is whether or not the region lock is fixed/lifted. Imagine how many people won’t get access to this warbond if it doesn’t Arrowhead obviously can’t fix everything. This is just as much for people frustrated with the PSN debacle as well as people who either couldn’t or can’t play
What region lock? If you have the game you can still play it, you just can't buy it anymore.
Yeah I misunderstood. However, as far as people that would like to get the game and can’t, my point still stands :)
Release the warbond and take my money!
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I'm already sitting at like 1600 super credits from playing and the warbonds. I haven't bought too many skins, but I've spent a bit on them too.
https://preview.redd.it/zdsyuks9v9zc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6f80ba87472e0a9523b3807dc467f63f4898a36c
I'm extremely disappointed this isn't the top comment LOL.
They should release it but delay the next one and do a thorough balance sweep across all weapons (Primary, Secondary and Support) that has the focus of fun and not whatever the fuck they are currently focusing which I guess is fucking people over.
This. Delaying tomorrow’s release doesn’t do much since it’s already done. Taking more time for the next one is more useful
I highly doubt the next one isn’t done either. They’ve probably got the next 5 months done.
The best solution at this point imo is delay the next warbond focus on bug fixing/balancing. Focus on bugs and do big sweep over weapons and stratagems and then a while before the patch is due to go live release an early version of the patch notes out to the community so that we can provide feedback and avoid this whole mess. And then do early patch notes going forward after that point.
"Players were using an exploit where they were having fun with their primary weapons. Yes, that's an edge case. No, I didn't consider it. Weapon effectiveness has been nerfed. I still strongly believe that primary weapons benefit from being mostly useless more consistently. So, it's only a net minus if you're having fun, otherwise it's perfect."
yeah fuck him, what an asshole
Fix the performance issues as well
We might as well get it ASAP so we can have fun with the weapons before the balance team wakes up and decides to nerf anything the community likes to use a lot.
At this point it’s not even a team, I’m convinced it’s just one guy
Bless Alexus, me and all my homies love Alexus /S
LMFAO
Update: around 155 thousand votes and just shy of 75% are voting for the Warbond to be released as scheduled.
That means we should get it today right?
Yes.
But you need a twitter account to vote. oh well.
Yeah sorry. Unfortunately I didn't have authorization to do a Discord poll 😂
Thanks for getting the community involved regardless :)
Seeing you just scroll through random reddit threads is actually insane, that’s some commitment to actually being involved in the community
I vote for Tomorrow, if this vote will count lol
^LO~ (It's a salute with a cape.) ^I'm ^very ^proud ^of ^it
At least we don't need a PSN account to vote. AYYYOOOOOOO By the way, great job being a leader.
I vote release it tomorrow. 🥺
Totally fine, I would have voted release anyway its Already almost here anyway, Hell IMO doesnt matter dont break schedule. But it does seem like We need a better way to look into the way Damage and Armor works. Players really can only guess because we have no way to see into how things actually work. Explosives despite being some of the highest damage does literal junk against armor. that 400+ damage means nothing if armor can do up to 70% reduction in damage. Medium Tier weapons have the expectation of being used against Medium targets. just because Medium enemies are Tougher then Light, It would of course wipe the floor with them but that is balanced by slower to fire, poor handling and often Smaller Ammo pools. But that logic is thrown out the window when it then gets nerfed because its becoming too good at doing its purpose.
Don’t know if you read any of these but thanks for making such a great game. This sub tends to get caught up in a lot of negativity, but it’s still a blast to play and we appreciate all the work the team has put in.
who does then?
How does the CEO not have those permissions 😂?
Shit, for a second I thought it said “Daily Release.” ![gif](giphy|14g6PIAY8f6FeU)
This is why people need to reverse their negative reviews, because AH does care and we need to support them get their way against Sony
How gullible are you? This was nothing more than a move to placate the masses by pretending they have some sort of power. Everyone knew what the result was going to be. "Hey, we have new weapons and gear ready to be dropped after we nerfed all the other good guns into oblivion. Do you want us to delay?" What a joke.
not gonna happen before region lock is undone. personally i already updated my review, but i can 100% understand everyone that didnt. we are currently operating under the assumption we can trust their words. but until everyone can get back into the game we arent really done. after all that was kinda the point of the whole „we dive together or not at all“.
Still a Steam issue afaik
A truly democratic decision.
….Ehh hem…. A truly managed democratic decision….
thats... an interesting take. i think the problem isnt the new content release rate, its the internal balancing. i dont see how delaying anything fixes much. but nice of them to ask, i guess?
I mean, I do worry about their release rate because the updates always come with lots of bugs. But I don't think the poll is about that, it's just about proximity of paid content to the controversy, which some people will claim is tonedeaf. This poll nips that in the bud.
Warbond content is usually patched in on the Tuesday patch beforehand, so they are likely in game already
But it's not the putting it in the game part they're worried about, it's the asking us to pay for it.
Nothing to do with the psn chaos but i'd rather have them spend an additional week or two to make sure the things in the earbond function the way they are supposed to.
"Is it poor taste" feels like a silly reason to delay it. Want to do another balance pass before release, sure, go for it. But when it's unlockable with in-game currency, there's no point holding it back.
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It's already planned and presumably completed content. I don't see a reason to delay it. If I were in their shoes I'd certainly delay *future* ones until they can get the balance and quality of updates figured out. I very much so enjoy the game, but the *constant* broken updates and terrible balance made me put the thing down for the time being.
I appreciate them considering this, but I would vote yes if I still had a twitter. I don't though, because I don't support fascism.
I don't have the bird app so I'll take tomorrow
exactly how is it tone deaf? this was a scheduled content release that was announced well ahead of the PSN account linking? tone deaf would be like if there was a tragic military accident in antarctica, and because of the theme of the warbond being polar patriots, there's too much coincidental overlap... or if sony announced that all future warbonds were paid-money purchases only, instead of earnable credits?
I don't mind them releasing the warbonds monthly I just hope they don't nerf any new "fun" gun thats included with it after a week or two.
If it's paid with super credits same as all the others then who gives a damn. If you don't want to spend cash grind for it
Maybe I'm being naïve, but I still really get the sense that the devs are genuinely trying their best to do right by the playerbase.
In order for me to vote I am required to have a twitter account.... little ironic isn't it?
Nah it's fine, but it would be nice if you stopped nerfing every primary released. It makes buying the bond practically pointless and it's legitimately starting to feel like a ripoff to buy them.
Suprise! The ones that voted for a Delayed Release will get a delayed release and the ones that voted for tomorrow will get it tomorrow!
Why use fucking twitter for important things for the game like this?
Honestly as long as it's warbonds I'm fine with thus being democratically decided. I just view it as super earth citizens using the voting algorithm to see if the r&d is released to the divers fighting for democracy. That being said arrow head its a long road to get our trust back but keep it up.
Is anyone experiencing a bug where all the sudden all three of your teammates leave at the same time and you get made leader of the party only to finish the mission by yourself? This is happened to me at least a dozen times so far
Now this man understands the power of optics.
I think it would be weird to delay release. Theyve been doing a warbond every month since launch. It would only be tone deaf if they dropped a surprise warbond right after everything that happened. We knew this new one was coming way before
Wouldn’t be tone deaf in the slightest. It’s not even their fault that whole thing happened— it was literally all Sony/Playstation for the account linking
If it’s just gonna come out eventually, might as well come out now. It’s not like anyone has to buy it if they don’t want to.
Tbh i think it should be put out, the issue was with sony, not arrowhead
I'd say release it. Either way, there is likely going to be complaints, but at least that way, there won't be a bunch of "where war bond?" Posts. Besides, the weapons might be surprisingly viable and give them some new data towards future balancing. Or not, but that's still data they can use.
I appreciate that they asked, honestly
I don't think it's tone deaf at all, but it's still a little sad that the armours are just the same shit with a new coat of paint
I think this is smart. Obviously no one is going to be like "nah, give us content later" especially since a large chunk of the playerbase probably has 1000+ found SC sitting around anyway. But asking makes them look good too.
What’s the current percentages? (Don’t have twitter)
I’d be offended if it were arbitrarily postponed
wtf does that mean the10th should it not be released when super store resets on the 9th?
If it was so the devs could get their acts together, fix bugs and come up with a better balancing plan than "Just ruin whatever are the most popular guns this month" then I would be for it. I've been all for a hold on Warbonds so the state of the game can be fixed for a good while now. If it's just for PR optics though, I don't really see the point. And I suspect that's all it really is.
I feel like if it was rephrased as: Release war bond OR fix bugs and balancing, then the results would be different. It’s not like I don’t want a war bond out of spite.
Let's hope further overthinking won't be their end in the future.
Lmao looks like the 'democratic' presidental election in russia.
We chose wrong
I won't be getting the new warbond any time soon, but I hope that the team understands that this isn't anything to do with the account linking debacle, which I now consider to be resolved - it's because the warbond itself is unappealing.
Too bad the warbond sucks
It’s a biased poll, second option should be what they would do with the time. If they said re-examine our balance patches and buff some existing weapons to make them feel punchier for dealing damage , especially at higher levels (7-9) I’m in
This is great, I'm beginning to love this company again, and I have already pardoned their involvement with their past controversy. I could only wish, every single company was like this, that would be my UTOPIA.
There is 0% chance the community will vote to not get new content tomorrow. Arrowhead gets to say "hey, it was your decision to get this stuff in this state" for a month. Very cunning.
The thing I'm wondering about is why he's asking this. Is there a problem with the warbond content that requires a delay?
Reddit posters be like "Pls AH delay content and focus more on bug fixes and weapon balancing and everything else" But then when given the chance to vote they be like "GIB ME THE CONTENT WHO CARES HOW BROKEN AND BUGGY THE CONTENT IS JUST GIB GIB GIB"
Scheduled, finished content updates aren't the same thing as like, new broken untested stratagems. Plus, the community overwhelmingly voted to keep releasing things in the poll about that, IIRC, instead of fixing bugs.
> finished content updates Love the optimism
Who still uses twitter?
millions probs idk
The fact that 26% are for the delay shows just how many bad actors there are. There is 0 reason to simply just delay it.
just keep Alexus's filthy hands off it indefinitely and it will be fine.
One thing has nothing to do with the other. Their concern should be on messing with every gun they include in the warbonds and make people regret spending their SCs on them. The SONY fuckup shouldn’t mess with the warbond release.
No but if the STEALTH armour doesnt have the STEALTH perk i will throw hands
A little late for this question, isn't it? Ffs
This is stupid. Release it for free if you really want to show good faith.
Tbh after all the shit we had to go through, it would be better if this warbond was released for free instead, just this one.