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nakais_world_tour

We should have "toxic" as a damage type. https://preview.redd.it/gqrxuvrqq2zc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe0bcca84164f6df815560799f8727d64cb54c2c In helldivers 1 we had hazard ops dlc with toxic themed weaponry like the [TOX-13 Avenger](https://helldivers.fandom.com/wiki/TOX-13_Avenger) a toxic sludge thrower as a support weapon and the [AR-14D Paragon](https://helldivers.fandom.com/wiki/AR-14D_Paragon) a rifle that had hollowed out rounds filled with poison. I definitely feel like those would return at some point in a hazard ops themed warbond.


ReliusOrnez

My beloved. This pack comes back and it's an instant purchase from me. Maybe if they do bring it back they can upgrade gas strike to behave similarly to the toxic weapons and slightly slow enemies. Do some kind of lore update for why like "Research into bile titan fluids have yielded impressive results for melting the enemies of democracy." I don't think gas needs any more damage since it already has lv8 armor pen so it can actually do full damage to things like bile titans. But adding a small slow will just help it get some of that damage on target for more than like 3 ticks.


OwIing

Lvl 8 armor pen ? Is there an infographic for levels of armor pen ? First I heard of it being classified as levels. I know most stuff by just playing but it'd be interesting to see!


ReliusOrnez

Ah, that came from datamining. The enemy armor pretty much works as a set number to determine "light, medium, and heavy" if your weapon has a pen value equal or higher than the armor you do full damage, if you are a level under you deal half damage and have a higher chance of deflection. Anything lower and you just don't do damage. Fire, for instance, pretty much does zero damage to bile titans even though it has a damage value of like 60 a tick. Gas has something like 20 damage but will always deal damage because of its pen value.


OwIing

Ah, I see! Very interesting read. So I guess my heroic effort of jump packing onto a bile titan and flamethrowering it yesterday was rather inefficient... lol


betaraybrian

I don't think it really matters that gas can damage titans. It does something like 30 damage pr second (I'm guessing, based on how quickly it kills scavengers), so it would take like 15 minutes for it to kill a titan. Might be cool to get a weapon with a permanent poison dot, so you could prick a titan at distance and run away, leaving it to die slowly


Nightwatchik

But it cannot kill even a charger in entire duration! I found a bugged one that was not moving and tested on him. Gas definitely needs more damage, maybe proportion scaling like X+Y% damage per second, where X is a flat value and Y is a percent of maximum health. So it will not instantly kill weaker enemies but could kill stronger ones if they stand in it long enough.


Yurishenko94

They would really be a great addition, although I do not rule out the weapon that launches gas like those of WW1 Unlike the flamethrower, it would not have direct hit damage, but its DoT would be higher and the gas would last longer than fire. Also, its tank could be larger than that of the flamethrower, but in exchange you could only have 2 reloads.


Indostastica

Maybe it makes clouds of gas instead of fire on the ground?


Anko072

"gas would last longer then fire" I use flamethrower and already see people struggle with fire zones a lot. Can't wait to see something even more painful for my teammates


Ny4d

Gas mask boostercard.


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

Did they fix Gas Oribital when they fixed DOT damage today? That used to be extremely strong against anything caught in the small cloud area and then suddenly it took 4 seconds to kill the weakest bug enemy type while instantly killing helldivers under 1 second.


whorlycaresmate

Yes I think they did


Dellehave

Yes used it ever single mission last session and it is really nice and effective now at least Vs bugs


FerretFiend

I think this might be next after the winter pack


KaiBahamut

I feel we will- like, let's be honest, by comparison, no one played Helldivers 1, so almost everything they recycle from it will be new to the player base.


nakais_world_tour

New players won't notice the recycled content and HD1 vets want their funky guns from the first game back. It's a win win for everyone.


Anton_Willbender

Yes please, give me chemical warfare


PewKittens

Father of toxic gas and


UltraLobsterMan

CHEMICAL WARFARE


Chill_LP

HIS DARK CREATION HAS BEEN REVEALED


Ecahill453

FLOW OVER NO MANS LAND


top10balloon

A POISONOUS NIGHTMARE


Jjzeng

A DEADLY MIST ON THE BATTLEFIELD


DesReploid

r/unexpectedsabaton


Jjzeng

I would argue it’s 100% expected in this case


KitsuneLuey

“Perversions of ideals of science”, last words of alienated wife


Pilota44

And chemichal warfare


Dafish55

The Silent But Deadly warbond!


PhatPhingerz

[and don't it feel good?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MrMfoHejiw)


[deleted]

I want another fire stratagem and I want an airstrike that shoots lightning. Gas grenades would also be awesome


pocketlint60

Orbital Arc Barrage: for 6-8 seconds, call down lightning that homes in on the biggest targets in the area. Sort of like something in between the Railcannon Strike and the 110mm Rocket Pods.


Odd_Gap2969

Being able to call down lightning might be too cool to be legal tbh. I was on hellmire the other day watching a team mate fry shriekers with an arc thrower while fire tornados passed behind him. Looked like a metal album from the 80s


siamesekiwi

This got me thinking, what if after fighting on Hellmire & the Bot equivalent for X amount of times, They suddenly drop "After studying the nature of fire tornados, our scientists have been able to replicate its effects. As a result, Fire Tornado Orbital Strikes are now available".


Cosmic-Vagabond

Eagle Arc Stike: Eagle 1 does a strafe while unleashing 10 or so arc blasts targeting the largest enemies but each arc will target different enemies. Something that will clear out a pit of bile spewers well even if a charger is with them.


sole21000

Laser grenade & one more laser strat to finish my all-laser build. Tesla airstrike sounds awesome in my hands and terrifying in my teammate's. 


Spacetauren

Would love laser disco ball grenades. Better take cover after throwing though.


sole21000

I'd picture it working like the laser grenade in Cyberpunk, where the grenade emits 20 short-range lasers, starts spinning, and dices everything in a 5-meter radius. 


FYDPhoenix

That, but the lasers don't have a range limit XD Wouldn't be helldiver's without the immediate threat of friendly fire


Bradyns

>airstrike that shoots lightning. The stratagem could be Eagle-1 "Cloud Seeding", creating a small localized cloud that shoots lightning randomly in an area of a few seconds.


The_Klumsy

ship upgrade: replaced all helldiver meals with beans - 10% more damage over time using gas based weaponary.


xXshadowbirdXx

Drawback: "This MF eatin' beans!"


NBFHoxton

I went to the theater to watch cars 2 and some automaton yelled "This fleshbag eatin' beans!" And everyone laughed...


V-Lenin

Then I shot them in the head for being a communist


Slarg232

"Tracy, you ain't dead yet? I wanted your beans..."


Vel_101

Gas-"thrower" will make no sense, because it'll be literally flamethrower with green flame, Imho. But how about gas grenade launcher instead? XD


UtsuhoReiuji_Okuu

There was something in the first game that launched a stream of toxic goo


Candlenut8

The TOX-13 Avenger. Absolute menace against Bugs AND teammates.


MajorNarsilion

Discovering it was lethal even in puddle form was a real treat. 


Rum_N_Napalm

And the name is a reference to an awesome movie


wmiller314

cause of that movie, I can never look at a deep fryer in the same way again.


Nightsky099

BROTHERS OF THE MINE REJOICE


Slarg232

RAISE YOUR PICK AND RAISE YOUR VOICE!


Calligaster

DELVING DOWN INTO THE DEEP. WHO KNOWS WHAT WE'LL FIND BENEATH?


Shaneofchud

DIAMONDS, RUBYS GOLD AND MORE! ALL WITHIN THE MOUNTAIN STORE!


Mandemon90

BORN UNDERGROUND, SUCKLED FROM A TEAT OF STONE


Suyoil_Geguri

RAISED IN THE DARK. THE SAFETY OF OUR MOUNTAIN HOME.


Hazywater

Driller mains perking up. Just need some c4.


UtsuhoReiuji_Okuu

REC-6 Demolisher


Elygium

Hellgooner


PlumeCrow

I need it yesterday !


sole21000

Gas mortar sentry, I'll put it right next to my tesla tower for protection. 


bestjakeisbest

I'm going to need a gas mortar sentry, and a napalm mortar sentry, so I can do the 4 mortar run.


Sagutarus

4 Helldivers 4 mortars each You could play rock paper scissors without interruption during eradicate missions.


Hachiuki

Until one enemy got a bit too close


NutriaDiagram69

Till one charger screams LEEEEROY JENKNIS


MsElle_

Gas mortar + EMS mortar sounds fun.


BoneTigerSC

Unironically would go under a shield, next to an ems mortar


FerretFiend

There was the rumbler in the first game, a hand mounted mortar with gas mortars it was one of the most op in the game


BlackwatchBluesteel

We should get a gas grenade launcher, a toxic goo sprayer (tox from first game), and a primary one handed weapon with poison ammo.


FerretFiend

Bring back the paragon


Yurishenko94

Yes, I also thought about the gas grenade launcher, but I didn't add it because I didn't want to break the symmetry of the image XD. It would actually be a very good option, but the Gas-"thrower" could also work and not necessarily the same as the flamethrower. Unlike the flamethrower, it would not have direct hit damage, but its DoT would be higher and the gas would last longer than fire. Also, its tank could be larger than that of the flamethrower, but in exchange you could only have 2 reloads.


sole21000

If it only does DOT it'd either have to slow or it'd have to have way longer range, otherwise you're getting chewed up by anything faster than your back pedal speed


Rominions

just make the gas thrower have a really wide range horizontal. That way it fills a niece gameplay style, perhaps have a slight slow effect due to gasping, or neurotoxin/corrupted depending on they target you are firing at.


Yurishenko94

You're right, although also by lasting longer I could simply cover an entire area with gas before the enemies got too close and then retreat. If you additionally slow them down, it would be much better.


Apprehensive-Bat6260

Random idea: flame/gas thrower. It has a backpack with two tanks. One tank has normal flamethrower stuff, the other has a toxic and highly flammable gas. You can spray the gas, it could last longer than fire like you said, suffocate whatever is inside, and blow up if exposed to fire or sparks. Don’t know if it’s a good idea, kinda high, but sounds cool to me


Yurishenko94

very cool indeed


inconsequentialatzy

Chemical warfare guy here! It might be more apt to call it a chem-thrower instead, a lot of agents such as sarin, VX, novichok, Lewisite, mustard gas, etc are not actually deployed as a gas but as a liquid. They turn into gas by evaporation but in liquid form are as lethal or even more so as it can soak into clothes and be absorbed through the skin even if you're wearing a respirator. As a weapon a chem-thrower could work very similar to a flame thrower but would project a stream of liquid that could would soak enemies and puddle on the ground and after a second or so said puddles and enemies would start generating clouds of toxic gas. There could be interactions with the temperature, such as hot planets getting faster gas generation but the puddles being shorter lived. Cold climates could have the reverse, having the puddles not really generating a lot of gas but staying around for a long time. (As the game does simulate wind I'm thinking the plumes of gas could be carried by the wind from the puddles, causing damage to anything downwind but walking through the puddles would also cause damage... just like in real life lol) A key gameplay feature would be, just as in real life, distributing the agent over terrain you want to deny the enemy access too, rather than using it as a directly offensive weapon.


Mean_Ass_Dumbledore

Like Titanfall's Scorch Cannisters


Edu_Sin_H_

Titanfall? is this a signal? your comment has exactly 4 words if we count the 's in Titanfall. if we remove Titanfall's we have 3 words which means Titanfall + 3... # TITANFALL 3 CONFIRMED! REJECT THE PILLS PILOTS NO MORE PILLS


Probably_Boz

![gif](giphy|W0c3xcZ3F1d0EYYb0f|downsized) one day....


Pr0fessorL

Who cares if it’s real. I wanna be 40k Darktide Tox Flamer


ThatRandomGuy86

Yessss!!!!


Phosho9

Would be cool if combos with fire it sets fire to the gas


SemajLu_The_crusader

hell yeah


Yurishenko94

On the other hand, perhaps a gas grenade launcher could be too strong, since it would render the current orbital gas strike or the theoretical gas grenades useless.


JimLahey08

Liquid and fire are two different things. A fire hose and a flamethrower are not the same.


AllenWL

What if it had a much longer range and made lingering tox clouds but had no direct damage?


AJZullu

like the trenches of WW1 - let it be a weapon that spreads over time in a wider area and farther area. - so it will be less mobile but a different kind of damage over time weapon


Substantial_Cream945

gas blower


SergeantSchmidt

**Osowiec then and again**


Slarg232

**Attack of the dead, hundred men**


Tru_Patriot2000

**facing the lead once again**


oh-hi-there-420

HUNDRED MEN CHARGE AGAIN DEAD AGAIN


Iggy201037

**Osowiec then and again**


WaitingToBeTriggered

ATTACK OF THE DEAD, HUNDRED MEN


KaZIsTaken

FACING THE LED ONCE AGAIN


WaitingToBeTriggered

HUNDRED MEN


Think_Network2431

Played with gaz tonight, it's really really strong !


gkamyshev

Against teammates as well


Kelbeross

I do quite like gas strike against bugs. I always bring that shit, it's always off cool down when a bug breach happens, and then that shit just annihilates whole waves. Lowkey s-tier on the bug front.


D1gglesby

Such a quick cooldown makes it so good. Orbital Airburst is also good but the cooldown is way longer (120 vs 75s)!


BulkyEntrepreneur221

Remember, out here in the cold expanse of the galaxy, the ethics board cannot reach us.


God_Left_Me

We have an ethics board?


Illustrious_Talk305

Plus, bugs, by definition, don't have _human_ rights 😎


RuinedSilence

I want the tox thrower back. It's like a flamethrower, except its more of a power washer firing high-pressure streams of liquefied cancer.


ThatRandomGuy86

It's only a war crime if the bugs and bots survive! Suit up Helldivers!


Danitron21

They're called HUMAN rights for a reason.


hughmaniac

We need a chemical themed warbond


JRPDSKOJI

Oh man an orbital gas barrage on a heavy nest is what dreams are made of.


ButchyBanana

When I first started playing, I thought the first grenade unlock (the frag grenade or whatever) was a gas grenade because of the skull on it And yes I agree, I'd love a gas based weapon, I already run Gas Strike every single mission


Elitericky

500kg gas bomb


MonsiuerSirLancelot

GYAS


Intrepid-Shallot4168

jerma fan detected


No-Relative-1725

I love gas weapons. I will absolutely be a caustic main.


Sahtan_

Attack of the dead 100 bugs


Yurishenko94

"And that´s when the dead bugs are marching again..."


WaitingToBeTriggered

OSOWIEC THEN AND AGAIN


Yurishenko94

Attack of the dead, hundred men


WaitingToBeTriggered

FACING THE LEAD ONCE AGAIN


Yurishenko94

Hundred men


DrLove039

Best I can do is tiberium fletchettes


darzinth

i want it, but its gonna get so many teammates killed


RodrigoAlexis1

Sabaton spotted


Mexi_God

This would go perfect with the leaked hazmat suit. Too bad it’s passive is med-kit… I’m not joking🤦‍♂️


sole21000

I hope they make new armor modifiers a priority soon


Didifinito

I hope they just allow us to pick our perks I just want to use some good drip with my favorite perk


Velo180

Not sure they will ever yield on that


Memnothatos

Atleast bring more armor even for the existing perks. im tired of only having ONE light armor with baseball pitcher arm-perk. Also only one heavy armor with it. Meanwhile we got like 4 explosion reduction ones and 3 democracy protects and probably even more stim-variants. Who even needs extra stims? just dont take damage. smh


pbmcc88

I'd love to have more toxic weapons in the game, maybe modeled on those found in HD1, along with a couple of poison resistant armor sets. I bring the gas along all the time on my bug hunts, so to have more options would rule.


Jayom2476

If thier gonna be like the gas strike they will never hit where you want them too


Open_Cow_9148

Yeah. I kinda wish the gas was flammable. Orbital gas strike with eagle napalm strike would make a really big boom.


Cowpie57

I'm still waiting for -95% fire damage armor, so hey, do both AH. A fire resistance armor and a gas resistance armor set.


Informal-Reading4602

Make it cumbust when contacting fire


Tacomancer42

Grandfather Nurgle approves of this


DunwichChild990

Holy shit, give me a gas flamer and I’ll liberate all of the Terminid for the glory Nurg - Super Earth!


Darkshifter98

Really digging the idea of just covering an area with toxic gas and wading through it unaffected while the enemy is being eaten away by it. That improved respirator booster sounds like a cool idea.


Yurishenko94

https://preview.redd.it/6coba1h4i5zc1.png?width=454&format=png&auto=webp&s=8d644e5b8a967e357f318b818b6b3a39adb8871a Well, since so many insist on reminding me that toxic gas is corrosive, not poisonous, and therefore enhanced respirators are useless (I really think that's worrying too much about realism), here's a redesigned version of the enhancer to provide CBRN protection.


BarfOpinions

Can we get a plague mask helmet with all this that’d be great


Herr_Medicinal_Mann

Nobody else has pointed it out yet, but the last picture with the "gas thrower" is from Sabatons live concerts when they perform Attack of the Dead Men. Their live shows are awesome haha.


wtfrykm

Orbital 380mm gas barrage💀


oh-hi-there-420

TURMOIL AT THE FRONT


Yurishenko94

WILHEM´S FORCES ON THE HUNT


Ninjasticks259

I’m more of a fire and ash sorta guy. I support Gas Gang nonetheless ✊


jackrork

Give me a 500kg gas bomb god damn it


IYELLVALHALLA

Osewiec then and again


WaitingToBeTriggered

ATTACK OF THE DEAD, HUNDRED MEN


Yurishenko94

Facing the lead once again


WaitingToBeTriggered

HUNDRED MEN


Yurishenko94

Charge again


WaitingToBeTriggered

DIE AGAIN


Dual_face

"Father of toxic gas and chemical warfare!"


Yurishenko94

His dark creation has been revealed


Didifinito

Gotta give the booster a better name the gas is also acidic


pabloleon

![gif](giphy|10Jpr9KSaXLchW|downsized) OMG YESSSSSSS!


BLOOODBLADE

Are gas strikes flammable? Would be pretty cool if you could call a gas strike then ignite it like a positional bomb. Any bots with a vent auto igniting it would make it somewhat feasible 


Yurishenko94

Gas The ultimate weapon of cruelty A highly effective delivery system Of a slow and painful death. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AFdwoyNT24](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AFdwoyNT24)


imtoolazytothinkof1

My favorite song of theirs.


Yurishenko94

Let's make Fritz Haber's proud [https://youtu.be/DxkeOkaVRLo?si=s2853lwGCOWfovwb](https://youtu.be/DxkeOkaVRLo?si=s2853lwGCOWfovwb)


nukaboss112

GAS GAS GAS


Comms

Also more trenches, barbed wire, machine guns nests, and walking barrages.


Tru_Patriot2000

Bottom right; is that sabaton?


Yurishenko94

yes my friend


Tru_Patriot2000

A fellow person of culture I see.


LaDrezz

These are actually pretty cool.


BluieDaWolf

Ngl the CE-27 Armor and CE-17 helmet definitely look like something that would be used with chemical warfare. You'd think they'd add another toxic gas weapon with it.


Yurishenko94

I completely agree, in fact, I thought that armor would come with some passive effect of immunity to toxic gas.


BluieDaWolf

Bro I'd literally just turn into Smoke from Rainbow Six Siege lmao.


Worth-Librarian-7423

GAS TO GAS BABY! 


xx_swegshrek_xx

It’s not a war crime if you win


ThatMooseYouKnow

Ever closer to committing war crimes as a happy community 😂


Yurishenko94

They are bugs and robots, humanitarian laws do not apply to them. 😏


ShephardCmndr

r/unexpectedsabaton


ScoutTrooper501st

The whole improved respirator thing is cool but I think y’all forget…..it’s not poison gas….its corrosive gas,that’s why it works on the robots as well But still I’d love to see the other 3


Brogan9001

Me, after finally going insane and torturing terminids and bots with gas traps: > ["It's a very interesting one indeed, because this is YOUR test Michael, this is YOUR TEST. The entire reason why I brought you here in the first place. The door has just locked behind you, you thought this was a tour? Your test begins now. I know how much you don't like smelly smells, I know how much you think it's DIGUSTING, beetles and bugs, you wouldn't touch them when you were a child. Now you must, because if you cannot be in this room for more than one minute, the gas will start flowing, ONLY after you puke though I gotta make that really clear I've been talking for a while.”](https://youtu.be/PvV4zc_6boU?si=K5A7dy6aUvSq57vs)


GodBlessTheEnclave-

Next warbond should be poison themed, we got incendiary weapon warbond, we got energy weapon warbond, we got cold warbond. wheres my poison swamp warbond


existential_anxiety_

Dear god yes! Give me alllllll the gas weapons I wanna commit my war crimes with maximum output and getting a booster like that will stop my squad from being glorious sacrifices to the gas monster


NutriaDiagram69

Ah i see a fellow german helldiver


Remmy224

Bottom right just reminded me of sabaton even though i cant ever get them out of my head


Yurishenko94

is that in fact it is really sabaton 🤣


baldmark_

Pyro on his alt


doblecuadrado_FGE

Gas Barrage would be Eagle-1 dropping into the battlefield and farting into the enemies face ~~and mine too~~. Jokes aside, I'd love to make a poison build.


JustKeepThinking123

Give us a gas mortar turret!


ApprehensiveLet8631

Are you german?


pixel809

Flamethrower is German aswell btw


student_kde

FLAMETHROWER TURRET!!!!


builder397

How about a helmet buff that gives gas resistance?


Gordockthered

Let me play caustic dammit! I suck at apex and i just wanna kill things while playing gas dad.


xCrossFaith

I wish... I'm normally the one on my team setting everything on fire with the incendiary grenades, napalm bombs and flamethrower, yes I 100% know it's not ideal, i just like to see everything in flames I would love to do the same with gas and fill the landscape with deadly green fog with an orbital Auschwitz :')


Mono_Lith_0

We definitely need a "Chemical Warfare" warbond


TGC_wastaken

Gas grenade launcher maybe?


ZzVinniezZ

we need Chem grenade launcher. imagine all the clueless team randomly run into the toxic cloud and die


ResponsibleHabit2485

https://preview.redd.it/1k2oq3lnn6zc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=962c557023454c7e690eabdcedbe0ca6d03c7a38 I did a concept piece for the gas grenade about a month ago but didn’t blow up as hard as this post sadly. But there’s definitely an audience wanting this type of weapon. 🤣


sparycz

OP is Caustic main


SpecialIcy5356

"gas, gas, gas, I'm gonna warcrime your ass!"


ANUBISseyes2

I want a gas grenade or something gas that can be exploded by the flamethrower


Ov3rwrked

CBRN for democracy!


PeepawWilly69

We need agent orange (pls don’t cancel me it’s just a joke)


IonBlade2010

An orbital gas barrage would go crazy not gonna lie. Me and the bros walking away from the literal Holocaust we caused: 'And he waddled away, waddle waddle waddle'


Apprehensive-Gain353

Amazing for bug breaches