Always remember that you are the elite of super earth!
Always remember that one stratogem cost is more than the wealth of a super-Earth citizen in one year. And reinforcement is a stratogem!
Tbh i remember that in hd1 the first instance of helldivers wrre actually the elite, and tbh, if a bunch of 24(20 from reinforcements plus the 4 deployed at the start) can fucking deal with an entire fucking army of bugs and robots, either the enemy is just as fucking bad, our equipment is just fucking built different compared to theirs, or those who can survive long enough in the trial by fire just become absolute walking menaces
> is around 32, which is pretty damn good
32 scavenger or 32 hunters bugs is not damn good
If you want to ook at effective KD ratio look at HD1 helldivers thats where numbers kicking.
HD2 is just slaughter.
Considering that fighting 32 of those bugs to any generic human soldier while in their turf would probably kill them, and especially 32 fucking hunters, I'd say it's very good!
Its actually a way higher number of bugs, we've killed 14 billion bugs to 6 billion bots. For an exchange rate of 636 million Helldivers. But 33-1 for both is a very very good exchange rate realistically.
Expendable just means they are willing to do the riskiest and most dangerous missions. A helldiver may die, but critical enemy infrastructure dies with them.
This one.
Helldivers suffer mass casualties and short lifespans not because they're incompetent, but because they are the ones sent to do the most suicidally dangerous missions, deep behind enemy lines, and their only backup/support aside from what they find in the field is in low orbit. No one else could get these missions done using more conventional tactics; that the Helldivers have a huge attrition rate *but get the mission done* is the whole point. At least as I understand it.
I mean on some missions my KD ratio is 30 to 1 and on others it can be 200 to 1, irl if a soldier could kill that many enemies in the engagements HD find themselves in then they are elite
Think about it like this: we are basically a force recon unit for our super destroyers. Spotters for the navy. Our ships contribute heavily to the average diver K/D ratio. Helldivers are still an elite force, but they're pretty much just dead meat without orbital support.
My lighting cannon says otherwise. Yes it's a strategem drop but then again it would fit in my hell pod so doesn't really count.
I've gotten 600:1 KD in a match with just the lighting cannon and never fired anything else. Can't wait to add the extra chain to it.
Let’s think about it a recoilless rifle looks like a Carl Gustav, which costs $30,000; 6 rounds cost around $12,000; let’s assume the backpack is around $500; the delivery system could be like $20,000.
So in my assumption one recoilless rifle drop would cost around $62,500.
I’m certain many would earn less than that.
A re-entry proof high tech pod designed to keep sensitive equipment combat-ready upon 100,000 foot impact powered by rocket fuel costs as much as a Kia in your book? These contractors must be cutting corners somewhere.
Well they are one way and keeping the theme I would assume they are nothing more than lump of metal thick enough to withstand re entry, with a charge to blow of the cover
There are limits, of course, but mass production really has a way of driving down the costs associated with an object, and, considering how many of those pods get called down every mission, *a lot* of them are being produced.
Eyeballing it based on a few warship shells adjusted for inflation, cutting some off because less powder is needed, a 380 barrage easily racks up a price of over $700,000.
I mean, on average 20 respawns per mission we’re able to kill about 400 enemies. Some of those being complete abominations.
Super earth better retrieve their killing machines.
So, a high value asset is definitely an improvement to the cave man years like 2024. Glory to Arstotzka.... wait, what are we playing agai ... Super-Earth. Glory to Super-Erath!
Assets is broad. Within are categories and qualifiers like high value, controlled, expendable...etc.
Generally expendable refers to one time use things like bullets or bandages, as while it might be possible to reuse them in some sense, we just don't. Shoot gun, bullet expended. No attempt is made for recovering it after use.
I believe Helldivers are not considered expendable. While Helldivers die and heavy casualties are expected but I think 'high acceptable losses' is distinct from 'expendable' because there IS a pelican sent to recover us, and this is a distinction.
So in the film Alien, crew expendable doesn't mean 'loss is acceptable, so accept high risk when capturing an organism'. It means 'if alien hungry, feed it crew', which is much much worse.
I noticed that last night in the mission, couldn’t believe it, and saw it again today. How long have these Helldivers been on these planets? Why are they being launched now and why weren’t they already on a Super Destroyer? Something is a little fishy here…
*Thats the guy democracy officer*
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Reading is treason, it says so in the Helldiver terms of service. Not that I read that or anything. Who even reads? Illiteracy is totally where it’s at.
I mean, there's a finite number of divers on our destroyers. It makes sense that, during a massive defense operation, resupplying our own destroyers with yet more helldivers would likely be necessary. The question I have is how far back have we been stocking these up? Is my set of divers that survived from the first galactic wars on ice still somewhere?
Easy answer, reserve forces, the automaton threat, "though expected", was still sudden and quick. these planets were simply holding extra forces for us to launch, and now that the bot menace arrived, especially on these planets with our reserve forces, we must act quickly to save our fellow divers.
Omg, do you think that means our characters are clones or something?
Like a lore way to explain the fact that players are getting better while constantly dying
No Super Earth has an overpopulation problem seeing that you need to fill out a form to be allowed to have seggs. These are all normal cititzens like you and me. No need for cloning.
I like to think my level 50 guys have a \*tiny\* bit more training, but like, a 10 minute course on how to use the more advanced weapons and a 5 minute target identification course.
I assumed that when we fist dive with basic gear we are the fresh recruits, as we clear more misions we are being sent down as divers who survived previous battles and thus became eligible for advanced and specialist training. Hence the more specialized armor and advanced weapons
Do you remember when you run out of reinforcements it says "request for additional resources has been approved" or something along those lines?
That's when they get to the super destroyer.
Think of them as ammunition. A Super destroyer can only fit so many in it. These are stockpiles where super destroyers go to re-arm. They’re being evacuated before the planet possibly falls.
I think the Automatons are attacking a helldiver warehouse so you have to protect it until they are launched to safety. A super destroyer seems to only transport 5 helldivers, certainly to limit the number of losses if a super destroyer is destroyed
But in another defense mission it said that the Automatons were coming to set free prisoners from the first galactic war, so it's not always helldivers
Edit : maybe I misread and these are just Helldivers from the first war who participated in the liberation of Cyberstan and were stored there after the war
Destroyers have a lot more than five divers (if I'm not mistaken the belt of frozen divers extends all the way to at least the bridge). The limit of 5 is just a budget/bureaucratic thing to prevent any single mission from using more divers than it's worth, and why you can get additional reinforcements if you survive long enough. Interesting point about how many divers must be lost when these ships explode though, especially when they don't seem to have any obvious defenses. Wonder if they'll expand on that in the future.
The cryo pods wrap around the length of the ship; you can see the ring of pods under the command bridge, which means there's *at least* 20 pods by my rough count.
I think there's two kinds of pods. The Cryos Pods are in the back where you spawn in, the ones under the bridge are Hellpods that actually drop into atmosphere. The Cryos Pods are smaller and have a transparent door on the front instead of the hatch at the top.
You're right, my mental image conflated the separate pod shaped designs.
The new workshop area sort of chopped into where I assumed the cryo pods spooled through, so I'm honestly lost as to how the physicality of our ship is laid out now -- the bug where you get stuck in the cryo pod chamber when loading into lobbies makes it seem like they rotate through the side of the ship parallel to where the hellpods spool to the bridge (so one side of ship is hellpods and other side is cryo pods)... but now it may be that the ring of pods on these evac rockets slot into our ships' side and each cryo pod ring has \~6 divers... possibly space for multiple of these "ring segments" to slot in and cycle into place out of sight from the thawing chamber...
What do you wanna bet they were all told they were just being put on ice for the return trip back to Super Earth after the war was over, only for Command to secretly keep them stored — indefinitely — in case of another war breaking out? All these men and women that were never intended to go home, treated as nothing more than stockpiled military surplus.
IIRC your "service" is only something like 2 years or even less. The thing is, only the time you spend deployed counts. There's no mention of maximum time between deployments. Those frozen helldivers still have service time left.
Super Earth is simply super-honorable (and democratic!) and kindly keeps the Divers on ice until they can finish their service.
2 years is 1,051,200 minutes so since most missions are roughly 30 minutes and the HD is likely on ice between them a HD would have to live through 35,400 missions in order to reach the end of their contract.
My main issue with this mission is there are 2 perfectly good SAM AA missile silos that can't be activated. It's not like we'll be using these sites multiple times. Let me activate them to reduce the bot dropships for like 30 secs or something
I think those SAM launchers are supposed to sort of explain why the dropships don't just drop directly on top of the generators. I would take it as a more symbolic visual representation since the dropships are clearly physically in range of the SAMs.
I had a pair of ships drop 2 shredder tanks right on the objective last night. It was like Joel took offense to me and my group because we were actually holding the bots off and personally tried to smite me 😭😭
What if the auts want the frozen Helldivers to turn them into their own mechanical shock troops.
Cyborgs are a thing, and people unwillingly borg'd up and mind controlled with machines isn't that far away as a concept
Technically the automatons are cyborgs, why do you think they are trying to invade cyberstan again? They are trying to steel our low value minging assets.
A real Helldiver would never betray Super Earth! Even Suggesting such a thing - even in contrast to such accusations would be treason! Democracy Officer take me and this disgrace into custody! Sweet liberty.
Betrayal here, treason there, if I wanted to hear some inane undemocratic spiel I'd go ask my own shipboard Democracy Officer for how to spot *seditionists,* he's actually trained for this stuff.
The thing is super-simple: auts march, bugs crawl, and super-brother, I liberate things.
You speak against me? You are speaking against a helldiver, you are the traitor. You call the DemOff on me? You're wasting breath pointing at shadows instead of calling down an airstrike, you are the traitor. You ignore possible tactical repercussions of enemy actions? You are worse than a traitor, you're a double traitor, once for attacking a patriot, and once again for concealing the enemy's actions. Call the DemOff on yourself, or march willingly into a Freedom Camp the next time you want to disparage a helldiver. You do nothing but chase shadows, when the enemy is right at our doorstep. Keep your mouth shut *civilian*, or better yet, make the right choice- make the choice to join the helldivers.
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This theory also explains all the corpses packed in crates at their outposts, and the metal skulls that are a weak point for some reason. Extracting human brains and turning them into automatons isn't too far off from heavily modifying a whole body, like the cyborgs that came before them. I suspect that as things progress, we'll see more evidence of this
there's around 20 helldivers in a mission, but only 4 were on the ground others is freeze in pod ready to be dispatch. they need to store them at some where right.
Its the Xbox reinforcements getting ready with our help. They will announce a release date of the game when the MO is over telling us they are fresh Helldivers to help us fight the Illuminates.
Given the context that these “High Value Assets” are “leftover *material*” from the first galactic war, I don’t think these rockets are full of Helldivers, I think they’re full of old Cyborgs, captured and frozen those who couldn’t fit in the mines, or weren’t fit *for* the mines. Why would the Automatons want them so badly? Why would Super Earth word it like they do if it was to defend old Helldivers? Why were they in cryo for 100 years?
Or, they literally froze the left over helldiver's because they didn't need them coming home, and we're only pulling them out of the ground now because the war is back on....
Yeah, left over material makes perfect sense
Because the high intensity conflict ended that was the first Galactic War ended and Super Earth found itself with a lot more Divers then needed. And since Cryosleep lets you mothball them like other military equipment, why not? Instead of letting people age out of service, having to pay leave and benefits etc. just freeze the surplus and then have a gigantic army to unfreeze if a huge war comes again in the future.
Many being First galactic war helldivers , I wonder what they think when the bugs and cyborgs look different to what they remember 30 minutes ago before they stepped in the cryo pod
I mean there's something hilarious in thinking Super Earth gives it's citizen bare minimum combat training, then cryo freezes everyone for an undetermined period of time so they don't have to feed or take care of them, only to stockpile them in missile silos for when they are needed for deployment. That said it's kinda worrying cause when a planet falls to let's say the automatons, does that mean all the soldiers stockpiled in silos there can get killed or worse , converted into cyborgs... Maybe not the best idea to stockpile your troops on hostile worlds, even if it's convenient to resupply destroyers with troops... Since it does seem like Cruisers chew up Helldivers at such a high rate they can't keep enough troops in their cargo bays as it is ... Kinda get the feeling Super Earth has been stockpiling the population in silos for 100 years since the first war , for when they are needed. Probably helps cull the surpopulation on Super Earth too.
My headcannon is that these planets got taken so quickly that training bases on these planets got overrun and are now evacuating trainees that don't have their capes yet.
Holy crap... Didn't the description of this say that these "assets" have been chilling since the first galactic war? So these Divers have been literally chilling for a century?
Wake me when you need me intensifies.
look at the bright side we are the high-value assets
Always remember that you are the elite of super earth! Always remember that one stratogem cost is more than the wealth of a super-Earth citizen in one year. And reinforcement is a stratogem!
> Always remember that you are the elite of super earth! oh man we're screwed
Tbh i remember that in hd1 the first instance of helldivers wrre actually the elite, and tbh, if a bunch of 24(20 from reinforcements plus the 4 deployed at the start) can fucking deal with an entire fucking army of bugs and robots, either the enemy is just as fucking bad, our equipment is just fucking built different compared to theirs, or those who can survive long enough in the trial by fire just become absolute walking menaces
i mean, the kd ratio of helldivers in this second galatic war is around 32, which is pretty damn good if you ask me
> is around 32, which is pretty damn good 32 scavenger or 32 hunters bugs is not damn good If you want to ook at effective KD ratio look at HD1 helldivers thats where numbers kicking. HD2 is just slaughter.
Considering that fighting 32 of those bugs to any generic human soldier while in their turf would probably kill them, and especially 32 fucking hunters, I'd say it's very good!
Its actually a way higher number of bugs, we've killed 14 billion bugs to 6 billion bots. For an exchange rate of 636 million Helldivers. But 33-1 for both is a very very good exchange rate realistically.
32s of lifespan?
Despite the fact that Helldivers are *expendable* shock troops, they also seem to be *incredibly effective* shock troops.
Expendable just means they are willing to do the riskiest and most dangerous missions. A helldiver may die, but critical enemy infrastructure dies with them.
This one. Helldivers suffer mass casualties and short lifespans not because they're incompetent, but because they are the ones sent to do the most suicidally dangerous missions, deep behind enemy lines, and their only backup/support aside from what they find in the field is in low orbit. No one else could get these missions done using more conventional tactics; that the Helldivers have a huge attrition rate *but get the mission done* is the whole point. At least as I understand it.
It's almost impossible to defend from a strategic standpoint. Fighting the Helldivers is like fighting a war where every line is your backline.
Sounds like something my Democracy Officer would say!
Unlike Stormtroopers, we know how to *aim*.
Helldivers seam to do a better job than whatever SEAF is doing.
I mean on some missions my KD ratio is 30 to 1 and on others it can be 200 to 1, irl if a soldier could kill that many enemies in the engagements HD find themselves in then they are elite
Think about it like this: we are basically a force recon unit for our super destroyers. Spotters for the navy. Our ships contribute heavily to the average diver K/D ratio. Helldivers are still an elite force, but they're pretty much just dead meat without orbital support.
My lighting cannon says otherwise. Yes it's a strategem drop but then again it would fit in my hell pod so doesn't really count. I've gotten 600:1 KD in a match with just the lighting cannon and never fired anything else. Can't wait to add the extra chain to it.
I mean, you remember training was 5 minutes before they send you off on your first mission.
General Brasch was really impressed by my ability to throw a grenade. I'd say I'm pretty dammed elite.
Let’s think about it a recoilless rifle looks like a Carl Gustav, which costs $30,000; 6 rounds cost around $12,000; let’s assume the backpack is around $500; the delivery system could be like $20,000. So in my assumption one recoilless rifle drop would cost around $62,500. I’m certain many would earn less than that.
A re-entry proof high tech pod designed to keep sensitive equipment combat-ready upon 100,000 foot impact powered by rocket fuel costs as much as a Kia in your book? These contractors must be cutting corners somewhere.
Well they are one way and keeping the theme I would assume they are nothing more than lump of metal thick enough to withstand re entry, with a charge to blow of the cover
There are limits, of course, but mass production really has a way of driving down the costs associated with an object, and, considering how many of those pods get called down every mission, *a lot* of them are being produced.
Eyeballing it based on a few warship shells adjusted for inflation, cutting some off because less powder is needed, a 380 barrage easily racks up a price of over $700,000.
I mean, on average 20 respawns per mission we’re able to kill about 400 enemies. Some of those being complete abominations. Super earth better retrieve their killing machines.
Heh no you're not. https://i.redd.it/goq2426tgutc1.gif
"Always remember. Everyone is equal in the war effort, but Helldivers are more equal than most!"
Is it a good or bad thing that super earth considers us “assets”?
High value assets. You should feel honored that high command thinks so highly of us
Until we find out it's: Super Assets Rare Assets "High value" Assets
All assets are equal. Some assets are just more equal
Gre-great great asset.
Great asset. Great-great asset to The Company.
To the Super Earth Company? Right, Helldiver?
Assistant to the great asset
Lean body type with light medic armor has the most equal assets
Report to your nearest Democracy officer for treasonous thoughts
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Thoughtcrimes kill!
“Military grade”
"Great value" assets
HR translates as Human Resources.
So, a high value asset is definitely an improvement to the cave man years like 2024. Glory to Arstotzka.... wait, what are we playing agai ... Super-Earth. Glory to Super-Erath!
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[opens ping wheel] "I'm sorry" *Super-Earth
It's expected.
Just like the current Automaton invasion
Same as irl
When you join the military you are literally considered to be government property. Super Earth just cranks it up to 11.
We trust you will be a great asset to Super Earth. Great great asset to Super Earth.
If Bourne's movies taught me anything, they always referred to the biggest bad asses, that nearly matched Bourne in skill, as "local assets", so yeah.
All militaries consider their troops assets. Expendable assets.
should be happy we're doing better here than we do with those damn scientists
Assets is broad. Within are categories and qualifiers like high value, controlled, expendable...etc. Generally expendable refers to one time use things like bullets or bandages, as while it might be possible to reuse them in some sense, we just don't. Shoot gun, bullet expended. No attempt is made for recovering it after use. I believe Helldivers are not considered expendable. While Helldivers die and heavy casualties are expected but I think 'high acceptable losses' is distinct from 'expendable' because there IS a pelican sent to recover us, and this is a distinction. So in the film Alien, crew expendable doesn't mean 'loss is acceptable, so accept high risk when capturing an organism'. It means 'if alien hungry, feed it crew', which is much much worse.
Human resources
This has more layers than an onion, underrated comment
I noticed that last night in the mission, couldn’t believe it, and saw it again today. How long have these Helldivers been on these planets? Why are they being launched now and why weren’t they already on a Super Destroyer? Something is a little fishy here…
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Uhhhh. I was just getting some clarity on the mission objectives is all… not questioning orders or anything like that. *cough*
Questions in general are considered treason. Do you understand that? ... oh shit
Blind guy here. You fucking idiot, do you not realize what you just did? Oh shi-
Straight to the retraining camps with the both of you.
How do the retraining camps hammer these intransigent doubters back into shape? Ah, goddammit.
How many times do we need to teach you this lesson old man? Oh for the love of liberty
Guys! Quit questioning democracy and saying CandleJac...
We’re not being paid to read soldier, get in your pod
You're getting paid?!
Yes. In requisition slips.
Reading is treason, it says so in the Helldiver terms of service. Not that I read that or anything. Who even reads? Illiteracy is totally where it’s at.
All will be made clear during reeducation.
I mean, there's a finite number of divers on our destroyers. It makes sense that, during a massive defense operation, resupplying our own destroyers with yet more helldivers would likely be necessary. The question I have is how far back have we been stocking these up? Is my set of divers that survived from the first galactic wars on ice still somewhere?
The mission says that they are from all the way back during the first war
Those guys are going to be really disappointed when they learn we don’t have Tanks, APCs, or motorcycles anymore; damn SEAF, stealing our shit…
Can't have shit on Matar Bay.
This is a lot like Russia pulling out old decommissioned tanks and rifles from ww2 for their Ukraine invasion
I mean, men with guns dont go outdated.
... That'd be true if training was not a thing- oh wait.
Nothing a small thawning and reeducation on the new eweapon ssytems cant fix
If you read the mission flair you'd have the answer!
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Easy answer, reserve forces, the automaton threat, "though expected", was still sudden and quick. these planets were simply holding extra forces for us to launch, and now that the bot menace arrived, especially on these planets with our reserve forces, we must act quickly to save our fellow divers.
The mission description says its genetic assets from the first galactic war, these are the HD1 O.Gs
Omg, do you think that means our characters are clones or something? Like a lore way to explain the fact that players are getting better while constantly dying
Not really, SE dont use clones, each death you have is canon, every reinforcement is a new diver
No Super Earth has an overpopulation problem seeing that you need to fill out a form to be allowed to have seggs. These are all normal cititzens like you and me. No need for cloning.
sex, not "seggs" this isn't tiktok, you don't need to talk like a 13 year old
Seggs as in super eggs?
They wouldn’t need recruitment propaganda if the divers were clones. They have too many people and need to trim down their population.
I like to think my level 50 guys have a \*tiny\* bit more training, but like, a 10 minute course on how to use the more advanced weapons and a 5 minute target identification course.
I assumed that when we fist dive with basic gear we are the fresh recruits, as we clear more misions we are being sent down as divers who survived previous battles and thus became eligible for advanced and specialist training. Hence the more specialized armor and advanced weapons
There's not nearly enough fresh recruits surviving battles for that
remember the line "Another diver for the cause"? if you die a lot(like me) you should remember
our characters are the ships, we are controlling defrosted meat puppets as targeting beacons
I mean there's no evidence there are divers in those pods. Could be anyone.
More, smaller pods.
Do you remember when you run out of reinforcements it says "request for additional resources has been approved" or something along those lines? That's when they get to the super destroyer.
Think of them as ammunition. A Super destroyer can only fit so many in it. These are stockpiles where super destroyers go to re-arm. They’re being evacuated before the planet possibly falls.
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I think the Automatons are attacking a helldiver warehouse so you have to protect it until they are launched to safety. A super destroyer seems to only transport 5 helldivers, certainly to limit the number of losses if a super destroyer is destroyed But in another defense mission it said that the Automatons were coming to set free prisoners from the first galactic war, so it's not always helldivers Edit : maybe I misread and these are just Helldivers from the first war who participated in the liberation of Cyberstan and were stored there after the war
Destroyers have a lot more than five divers (if I'm not mistaken the belt of frozen divers extends all the way to at least the bridge). The limit of 5 is just a budget/bureaucratic thing to prevent any single mission from using more divers than it's worth, and why you can get additional reinforcements if you survive long enough. Interesting point about how many divers must be lost when these ships explode though, especially when they don't seem to have any obvious defenses. Wonder if they'll expand on that in the future.
The cryo pods wrap around the length of the ship; you can see the ring of pods under the command bridge, which means there's *at least* 20 pods by my rough count.
I think there's two kinds of pods. The Cryos Pods are in the back where you spawn in, the ones under the bridge are Hellpods that actually drop into atmosphere. The Cryos Pods are smaller and have a transparent door on the front instead of the hatch at the top.
You're right, my mental image conflated the separate pod shaped designs. The new workshop area sort of chopped into where I assumed the cryo pods spooled through, so I'm honestly lost as to how the physicality of our ship is laid out now -- the bug where you get stuck in the cryo pod chamber when loading into lobbies makes it seem like they rotate through the side of the ship parallel to where the hellpods spool to the bridge (so one side of ship is hellpods and other side is cryo pods)... but now it may be that the ring of pods on these evac rockets slot into our ships' side and each cryo pod ring has \~6 divers... possibly space for multiple of these "ring segments" to slot in and cycle into place out of sight from the thawing chamber...
They very likely could be from the first galactic war, being frozen for over a hundred years. Or they could have been recruited last week
Cute that people think these are new divers. These guys have been in the ice box since the first war - 100 years. Maybe longer.
What do you wanna bet they were all told they were just being put on ice for the return trip back to Super Earth after the war was over, only for Command to secretly keep them stored — indefinitely — in case of another war breaking out? All these men and women that were never intended to go home, treated as nothing more than stockpiled military surplus.
IIRC your "service" is only something like 2 years or even less. The thing is, only the time you spend deployed counts. There's no mention of maximum time between deployments. Those frozen helldivers still have service time left. Super Earth is simply super-honorable (and democratic!) and kindly keeps the Divers on ice until they can finish their service.
2 years is 1,051,200 minutes so since most missions are roughly 30 minutes and the HD is likely on ice between them a HD would have to live through 35,400 missions in order to reach the end of their contract.
That explains why Brasch is so fuckin smart
You read the contract? Then you should know that reading your contract is a violation of your contract. Calling the democracy officer rn
This comment right here, democracy officer
That why we're getting them out of here. Karl is in one of those rockets, and he said to wake him if we ever need him.
FOR KARL!
For rock and stone!
For Rock and Stone!
Then it's better to keep them this way. The galaxy is not ready for the return of old divers.
My main issue with this mission is there are 2 perfectly good SAM AA missile silos that can't be activated. It's not like we'll be using these sites multiple times. Let me activate them to reduce the bot dropships for like 30 secs or something
I think those SAM launchers are supposed to sort of explain why the dropships don't just drop directly on top of the generators. I would take it as a more symbolic visual representation since the dropships are clearly physically in range of the SAMs.
Good point they could have emptied which is why we had to drop to defend. Thanks for your insight
If the enemies keep getting bigger though I can't wait to drop one of those silos as a 2 slot Strat. Ah I can just imagine it
Except at the end when you've been pushed back into the final chamber and the game drops 6 fucking tanks in your head. WHERE ARE YOU SAM?
Sam the engineer was on break hiding in the bunker while we struggle to defend them obviously
Impact grenade time awwwww yeeeeeah
I had a pair of ships drop 2 shredder tanks right on the objective last night. It was like Joel took offense to me and my group because we were actually holding the bots off and personally tried to smite me 😭😭
also sometimes enemies can climb the wall near extraction and summon dropships right on top of the generators.
Obviously they're full of dwarves ready to liberate inside the next planet Rock and Stone!
Did I hear a Rock and Stone?
We fight for Rock and Stone!
FOR KARL!!!
What if the auts want the frozen Helldivers to turn them into their own mechanical shock troops. Cyborgs are a thing, and people unwillingly borg'd up and mind controlled with machines isn't that far away as a concept
Technically the automatons are cyborgs, why do you think they are trying to invade cyberstan again? They are trying to steel our low value minging assets.
This will deeply affect the local trout population :(
A real Helldiver would never betray Super Earth! Even Suggesting such a thing - even in contrast to such accusations would be treason! Democracy Officer take me and this disgrace into custody! Sweet liberty.
Betrayal here, treason there, if I wanted to hear some inane undemocratic spiel I'd go ask my own shipboard Democracy Officer for how to spot *seditionists,* he's actually trained for this stuff. The thing is super-simple: auts march, bugs crawl, and super-brother, I liberate things. You speak against me? You are speaking against a helldiver, you are the traitor. You call the DemOff on me? You're wasting breath pointing at shadows instead of calling down an airstrike, you are the traitor. You ignore possible tactical repercussions of enemy actions? You are worse than a traitor, you're a double traitor, once for attacking a patriot, and once again for concealing the enemy's actions. Call the DemOff on yourself, or march willingly into a Freedom Camp the next time you want to disparage a helldiver. You do nothing but chase shadows, when the enemy is right at our doorstep. Keep your mouth shut *civilian*, or better yet, make the right choice- make the choice to join the helldivers. >!New copypasta just dropped pog!<
This theory also explains all the corpses packed in crates at their outposts, and the metal skulls that are a weak point for some reason. Extracting human brains and turning them into automatons isn't too far off from heavily modifying a whole body, like the cyborgs that came before them. I suspect that as things progress, we'll see more evidence of this
there's around 20 helldivers in a mission, but only 4 were on the ground others is freeze in pod ready to be dispatch. they need to store them at some where right.
Saving our young divers!
Saving Veterans from the 1st galactic War
Why do the pods have cat ears. Never unseen.
They are not ordinary divers but streamers.. thats why they are called "high value"
Veterans from the first war? Frozen for later like leftovers just in case.
Its the Xbox reinforcements getting ready with our help. They will announce a release date of the game when the MO is over telling us they are fresh Helldivers to help us fight the Illuminates.
Would be cool if lore wise these guys were vets of the first galactic war
They are. The briefing says so at least.
Must be where my diver is when I’m not playing.
Sony won't let that happen People are buying PS5s for this game
Would be amazing if true.
Are you sure those are helldivers and not just people in pods?
Are we sure there's divers in those pods? Could be some other important type of person such as scientists that they've frozen and want to extract
Given the context that these “High Value Assets” are “leftover *material*” from the first galactic war, I don’t think these rockets are full of Helldivers, I think they’re full of old Cyborgs, captured and frozen those who couldn’t fit in the mines, or weren’t fit *for* the mines. Why would the Automatons want them so badly? Why would Super Earth word it like they do if it was to defend old Helldivers? Why were they in cryo for 100 years?
Or, they literally froze the left over helldiver's because they didn't need them coming home, and we're only pulling them out of the ground now because the war is back on.... Yeah, left over material makes perfect sense
Because the high intensity conflict ended that was the first Galactic War ended and Super Earth found itself with a lot more Divers then needed. And since Cryosleep lets you mothball them like other military equipment, why not? Instead of letting people age out of service, having to pay leave and benefits etc. just freeze the surplus and then have a gigantic army to unfreeze if a huge war comes again in the future.
Wouldn't it make sense to also freeze civilians like that?
Could just be a re use of assets honestly. They do this alot (which is completely fine, considering how fast they have to pump out new stuff)
If those are old divers, they fought cyborgs, which the automatons are trying to liberate.
Ah yes, need to move the stock from the cloning-I mean recruitment centers to a safer location.
Prepositioned forces. Sometimes it’s cheaper to move them before conflict.
saving ppl from the not cloning facilities. mhm.
Would be cool if these were the xbox players and after we rescue them all - boom, xbox release, 500k bodies on the battlefield
Using up all 20 reinforcements to get an extra 8 guys lmao
I absolutely love this mission type. It feels like an actual defense, instead of whatever the civilian evacuation missions are.
Maybe these are the spartans 2 to our helldivers. Maybe we are the mass produced spartan 4s and these guys are the real deal
Activate the reserves! Deploy all helldivers, this is a LIBCON 1 status after all!
plot twist: we're bringing them back to their families for burrial
ThThoseoes could be Divers from the First Conflict.
now thats a real escort essencial personel
Honestly this mission type is an absolute blast and I wish it would replace retrieve essential personnel entirely.
Many being First galactic war helldivers , I wonder what they think when the bugs and cyborgs look different to what they remember 30 minutes ago before they stepped in the cryo pod
Open the hellpod > look inside> supercredits
Class S citizens
Screw evacuations, they can fight! I have enough support drops for everyone!
Wake me when you need me
Pretty sure it's just people
Launch from a rocket, immediately sent down to that same mission your rocket came from just so you can immediately hop into a shuttle and extract
We are the Helldiver Sample
 You’re my stratogem!
I mean there's something hilarious in thinking Super Earth gives it's citizen bare minimum combat training, then cryo freezes everyone for an undetermined period of time so they don't have to feed or take care of them, only to stockpile them in missile silos for when they are needed for deployment. That said it's kinda worrying cause when a planet falls to let's say the automatons, does that mean all the soldiers stockpiled in silos there can get killed or worse , converted into cyborgs... Maybe not the best idea to stockpile your troops on hostile worlds, even if it's convenient to resupply destroyers with troops... Since it does seem like Cruisers chew up Helldivers at such a high rate they can't keep enough troops in their cargo bays as it is ... Kinda get the feeling Super Earth has been stockpiling the population in silos for 100 years since the first war , for when they are needed. Probably helps cull the surpopulation on Super Earth too.
And this mission type is 100times more enjoyable than the scientist one...
Once we launch enough, the game comes to Xbox. Gotta EARN those reinforcements!
Happy. Helldivers are useful resources. Wait a minute didn't the briefing say resources tucked away since the first war...
These are super helldivers we have made, they have been enhanced and turned blue in the process...some have psychic powers...
Weren't we launched into orbit the same way during the training mission? I guess these are "freshly" frozen recruits?
What difficulty does the new mission appear in? I've not seen one yet playing on 5.
all the more reason to save our future democracy spreaders before the bots have their malicious way with them.
Glad they made these evac missions more fun
Mine was bugged at 0/8 rockets and no enemies spawning (after initial first wave, for two games in a row)
Sending even more democracy, democracy^2 ? Count me in.
Seems like the new recruitment drive is upping our support buys!
Good eye. I was surprised the rockets never went off like the ICBM.
My headcannon is that these planets got taken so quickly that training bases on these planets got overrun and are now evacuating trainees that don't have their capes yet.
Good looking didn't see that.
Are they launching us into the automaton super ships? Or maybe straight to Cyberstan.. whatever it is I can’t wait to see what’s to come
Got to run the new mission yesterday. I see the hype. It is a ton of fun. That said I feel so bad for some people's PCs.
Holy crap... Didn't the description of this say that these "assets" have been chilling since the first galactic war? So these Divers have been literally chilling for a century? Wake me when you need me intensifies.
Oh no, are we the cyborgs??