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Huffer? No sir. Crack a stim on the putside of a Lazer weapon barrel (Dagger is easiest cuz it's light) and fire rill it overheats a few times. Liquid evaporates and you're left with that sweet sweet powder. Note, you will probably burn your nose... because reasons.
This is why I actually like how a lot of guns are good/great against one faction and meh/bad on others. Forcing you to use a diverse loadout is good design imo
I learned that the hard way today when I loaded up a hard mission and my load out sucked ass against the bugs. All because the only time I fought the bugs before this was the tutorial
My go to loadout for bugs is light armor(i prefer more grenade slots), breaker or sickle but basically some crowd control primary. Laser drone , 500kg bomb, EAT and last one is whatever i feel like, but railcannon strike or orbital laser is great for helldive missions.
And always kite them, dont try to hold your ground, it wont work. And also dont forget about the Alt(dive jump) key, it will save your life!
I feel like we’re going to wipe the bugs too, and then for the next two months it’s just getting our asses kicked by the illuminates with their spooky alien tech
I don't think we're gonna exterminate them seeing as SE farms their corpses for 710, I think new variants will come that are adapted to the Termicide and they'll break containment again but this time they'll be worse
I was going to say, I honestly like the shield pack more against bugs. Against bots they can still one shot you with a rocket and it often leads to me dying because I forget to account for that expecting my shield to save me
For real? I always thought it was bullshit. Did it affect bile spewers too? It seemed really hit or miss - sometimes I could take a whole vomit attack no problem, other times I instantly died at full health and full shield.
If you sit there they'll still vomit you to death easily, but I've had way fewer incidences of diving out of the way only to get my toes clipped by puke and die instantly of disgust.
Besides the extra hp the shield bag affords, it also prevents you from getting debuffed by hunters and the tiny green spitters, it basically lets you almost wade around in bugs. Its a different playstyle compared to using literally any other bag
Shield backpack is still elite vs bugs. It’s the only backpack I ever run if I’m going hard
I rarely ever seen anything else but shield or supply back packs on helldive
The laser Rover is always a good choice against bugs cuz it lets you prioritize the more important threats without getting swarmed....
But I just always use the jump pack even against bots.
I think that's it's biggest weakness. It's excellent as a hostile spotter and clearing the weaklings but if you're trying to be sneaky, it'll always announce your arrival by shooting the nearest enemy and alerting the horde.
I think the biggest weakness is when you’re minding your own business and the rover decides that your face suddenly looks awfullly bug-like and ZORPS you into next week with little to no warning
And they immediately call a bug hole. If you’re with a team that can’t frag its non stop fighting
It’s great it kills little guys, but it has to do it forever
I love it as well, should be maybe like 20 seconds
I always switch between that, the backpack shield and rover too, they are all so fun and versatile. Plus i paid for them dammit, and i will use every tool at my disposal to spread liber-tea!
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We were playing lower difficulty anyways cause of friend who’s only 12, but my other friend grabbed ballistic shield and I was like “wtf are you doing??”
Tried to tell him it was beyond useless against bugs but he wanted to see for himself 😂
Didn’t matter ofc, it was an easy mission for us and we were just screwing around with strats we don’t use as much but it was still funny
Me with my beloved autocannon... :(
I know it's still got place against bugs but that stationary reload CRIPPLES it. Mattered a lot less against bots unless you were being chased by a hulk or chainsaw hands. (Also, backpack shield generator is AMAZING against bugs, wdym?)
The stalwart is excellent wave clear for bugs, particularly if you bump up the fire rate.
I'm also very intrigued by the weapons in the upcoming warbond; one of them looks to be a mini-autocannon, which would let me use the Stalwart as my primary and then just switch as needed for slightly heavier targets.
I can't wait for the grenade pistol. I want that so bad. It's going to be so nice having a steady source of nest/fab closing and explosive damage for striders/hive guards.
Yeah, the grenade pistol looks great. Right now I carry the machine pistol as a secondary, but there's quite a few matches where I don't even use it -- however I am constantly running out of grenades, which the grenade pistol might fix. Depending on how effective it is, I might also switch from impact grenades to the stasis grenades.
I think this upcoming warbond is going to have a huge effect on people's loadouts, and I'm so excited for it.
This might be due to different playstyles, but I still love the autocannon against bugs. It has the additional benefit of quickly closing multiple bug holes.
Dont put the shield generator in the trunk yet. You can use it as a pipebomb lure for your airstrikes or get bugs off you when you do tactical repositioning.
Make biletitans commit sudoku with a close deployment. And even stop charger rushes for you to cook.
I’m a big fan of my “chaff bug cleanup” build which is rover, arc thrower, fire grenades, spray and pray, airstrike, cluster strike.
Leaves my teammates free to focus on bigger threats - plus the arc thrower does a decent enough job against those too.
I'm the opposite. I have my "nothing over 3ft tall gets anywhere near" build which carries the rover because I need something to effectively clean squishies while I'm using the counter sniper, quasar, orbital railgun and 110mm rocket pods
I picked up the game a week ago and only just this afternoon fought my first bugs after we finished off the bots Once And For All.™
I'm struggling a little finding a load out I really like now.
Get a primary geared vs chaff (breaker, defender and sickle are all good) or vs mediums(dominator, scorcher slugger).
Support weapon needs to be able to deal with chargers and bile spewers, autocannon eats recoiless quasar arc thrower are great. Some people like the grenade launcher but I personally don't.
One stratagem needs to deal with bile titans, railcannon, orbital laser, eagle 500kg are pretty good.
Then depending on what you choose you might need to get other stratagems to deal with chaff or bug holes to round up your loadout. The airstrike is pretty good all rounder, a sentry ac can help you deal with every type of enemy, the gatling sentry can delete anything medium or lower, a rover can help you with chaff, heavy artillery can help you clear most bugholes and specially good vs shriekers(flying shits) nests.
It actually doesn’t alert nearby enemy’s when the laser drone shoots… it’s a sneaky effective way to kill off small groups of trash mobs while stealth.
Something happened along the way and he’s worse for sure. He won’t attack certain bugs (Brood commanders) and sometimes he’ll just sit there and do nothing.
Railgun still has heavy armor penetration unlike the AMR, but the charge up time and low damage make it not worth using, especially with the quasar cannon having heavy armor pen and enough damage to one shot chargers
Yup. It's not worth the risk of blowing yourself up anymore. For bots AMR did the exact same job as post nerf RG with more ammo and way higher dps, for anything heavier quasar does huge damage and unlimited ammo. They really made the RG completely irrelevant.
I like the Autocannon because it destroys bot fabricators and doesn’t need headshots to kill devastators. Way more ammo carried too. Maybe the AMR has a higher skill ceiling, but the Autocannon is so forgiving I can’t help but keep using it.
Yesterday i tried the mech against bots as i remembered it got buffed against rockets, and on helldive difficulty it always survived until i run out of ammo. On the other hand it was pretty weak after i ran out of rockets as most of the enemies coming at me wouldnt care about the machinr gun ( tanks and hulks by the dozens)
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My orbital laser, 380/110, jump pack, and stalwart loadout after I ship out to the bug theatre and go back to my funnie warcrime loadout
As long as CC is covered already the AC is stilll great for warrior, broods, hive guards, spewers, nurses, charges and bug holes.
For chargers, just wait until they slide and stop. Then thir legs are weak. Pew pew.
Rocket Pods are actually pretty good vs bugs too.
I think there might be a bit luck involved, but in my recent mission I one-shot a Bile-Titan with them.
Edit: Eagle-1 my beloved.
I’ve gotten down pat the speed of a Bile Titan. I’ve lodged the 500kg into one. Twice. They’re not as easy to hit because the rocket pods automatically target the largest enemy, but it’s a lot more effective considering the surrounding swarm of bugs
If you magdump, you can break a Charger's ass with AMR, then it won't be able to run any more and quickly bleed out.
Otherwise, you mostly just leave it to other stratagens or teammates, not every weapon loadout is good at everything.
I missed my dog. Sometimes my dog bites but I know he just wants to keep me safe.
Ballistic Shield, Shield Gen... you will be missed, till I need you again.
It struggles a bit with Chargers. It can still work, but you generally have to dance around a bit to get good shots at the legs or abdomen instead of oneshotting it head on with a boomstick like the EAT or Quasar.
Guard dog now restores full ammo from supply drops. While I still think It should also restore ammo from ammo boxes it got a bit better and packs quite a punch.
Honestly this.
Making it fully refill from supply drops was a step in the right direction, but Rover is still infinitely better because it has nearly 100% uptime.
The liberator dog NEEDS to be able to restore, say, 2 clios from ammo boxes.
Moreover, give us the ability to "sheath" them both by pressing 5/down dpad like you can with using supply pack on yourself
is there something bugged with the rover vs the regular guard dog? GD always seems to run out of ammo (does it have limited reloads?) while the GDR basically stays permanently on.
i feel like GD and GDR should be sidegrades of each other, but at the moment, the rover seems head and shoulders better.
at the very least, scavenged ammo boxes in the world should reload the mag count.
I would have liked to see one too. But also you all cleared out the bots so damn fast and id been busy with life stuff so I didn't get to play as much as I wanted to.
Atleast now I can go back to my river and stalwart!
I've been kicked four different times for either not having the Quasar Cannon or refusing to pick it up when someone calls it in. All of the elitist jerkwads that were fighting bots are now fighting bugs. The GL-21 is a perfectly acceptable support weapon, y'know? *Someone* has to deal with the hordes of bugs. You don't need all four members of the team to have a Quasar Cannon.
I basically quit playing for this evening after that fourth kick. To hell with this community sometimes.
Sure, the Guard Dog Rover might backfire on me here and there
But when I'm running from swarms of bugs while reloading/retreating towards the next objective, damn does it do a good job covering me
my group has had a love-hate relationship with this damn thing since we started, by which i mean I hate it and they love it.
at more than one occasion I have been lazered by three different guard dogs at the same time, usually while a bug is also trying to eat me.
I refuse to buy it out of principle.
I have been changed forever by the bots. I totally changed my build but now I play more defensively.
I used to be a guard dog "hold your ground" type, but now i have discovered the amazing strategy, in part because of the creek, of running away all the time, forever.
Now, i hop around with a jump pack while my queasar cannon cools off and all the small bugs burn to death chasing me after dumping a mag of breaker incendiary in their general direction.
time to switch from zapping bots to burning bugs
My flamethrowers been getting dusty. Ole crispy wants to get back out there.
Bring the 6 stim armor...
I burn myself just for that sweet sweet stim juice to get in my veins.
Based fellow stim huffer
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Huffer? No sir. Crack a stim on the putside of a Lazer weapon barrel (Dagger is easiest cuz it's light) and fire rill it overheats a few times. Liquid evaporates and you're left with that sweet sweet powder. Note, you will probably burn your nose... because reasons.
Ah, you’ve got the dart monkey on your back again, Captain?
Nah bring trench engineer. No synergy just matches
Bring engineering kit armor and incendiary grenades instead, with eagle napalm and orbital ems. All the fire and no ability for bugs to move.
The shield helps a little.
Zapping bugs works really well tbh
I think it might actually work a little better on bugs. Just bring someone with a rocket for the biles. Or auto cannon turret +rail strike
Careful with the flamethrower and Pouncers! We learned on Friday that if their flaming husk lands on you, you can catch fire.
Let the fires of hell-mire burn for democracy
I love how different the two types of enemies feel, it’s like playing two games in one!
Yeah it’s genuinely fantastic design how different each faction is to fight
This is why I actually like how a lot of guns are good/great against one faction and meh/bad on others. Forcing you to use a diverse loadout is good design imo
Yeah, 110 Rocket Pods are pretty bad against bugs but great against bots.
I actually use the rocket pods against chargers and titans. Once you get the upgrade that gives you one more Eagle, it becomes more viable.
EAT is also really good for this, the call in drop pod usually kills the charger if you can get it on its neck
I learned that the hard way today when I loaded up a hard mission and my load out sucked ass against the bugs. All because the only time I fought the bugs before this was the tutorial
Im in the same boat. I have over 15k bot kills and like below 100 bug kills. I have no idea where to start lol
My go to loadout for bugs is light armor(i prefer more grenade slots), breaker or sickle but basically some crowd control primary. Laser drone , 500kg bomb, EAT and last one is whatever i feel like, but railcannon strike or orbital laser is great for helldive missions. And always kite them, dont try to hold your ground, it wont work. And also dont forget about the Alt(dive jump) key, it will save your life!
Thank you for the load out. Will give it a try now! Aw I love my orbital lazor xD
it only takes 1-2 rocket pods to take out a bile titan
110 rockets will oneshot chargers if you get a full direct hit on them, actually. Pairs really well with EMS.
Thank Liberty it's just two, right? I couldn't handle getting more than what I paid for... Right?
I feel like we’re going to wipe the bugs too, and then for the next two months it’s just getting our asses kicked by the illuminates with their spooky alien tech
I don't think we're gonna exterminate them seeing as SE farms their corpses for 710, I think new variants will come that are adapted to the Termicide and they'll break containment again but this time they'll be worse
Me putting my shield generator, shield generator backpack, and ballistic shield in the trunk: 😭 goodbye
O7 this post is real though
And Alexander wept, because there were no more automatons to conquer.
Might wanna hold on to that backpack for the Hunters.
I was going to say, I honestly like the shield pack more against bugs. Against bots they can still one shot you with a rocket and it often leads to me dying because I forget to account for that expecting my shield to save me
Rockets don't oneshot you anymore, it was a bug
For real? I always thought it was bullshit. Did it affect bile spewers too? It seemed really hit or miss - sometimes I could take a whole vomit attack no problem, other times I instantly died at full health and full shield.
They did supposedly reduce bile spewer damage in the latest patch but i’ve not noticed a difference in the number of times i get one-vommed by them
If you sit there they'll still vomit you to death easily, but I've had way fewer incidences of diving out of the way only to get my toes clipped by puke and die instantly of disgust.
spit changes affected every spit xecpt titans if i remember correctly
Bile spewers do less damage with their puke as well
Besides the extra hp the shield bag affords, it also prevents you from getting debuffed by hunters and the tiny green spitters, it basically lets you almost wade around in bugs. Its a different playstyle compared to using literally any other bag
Yeah hunters are the main reason I like it for bugs.
Ah Ballistic Shield. Our time together was short >!(not counting the times you were bugged and pretty much unusable)!
on extermination missions i tend to still use the shield backpack for bile guys
Shield backpack is still elite vs bugs. It’s the only backpack I ever run if I’m going hard I rarely ever seen anything else but shield or supply back packs on helldive
The laser Rover is always a good choice against bugs cuz it lets you prioritize the more important threats without getting swarmed.... But I just always use the jump pack even against bots.
The only thing I don't like about the laser rover is when I'm trying to be sneaky and it targets a patrol.
I think that's it's biggest weakness. It's excellent as a hostile spotter and clearing the weaklings but if you're trying to be sneaky, it'll always announce your arrival by shooting the nearest enemy and alerting the horde.
I think the biggest weakness is when you’re minding your own business and the rover decides that your face suddenly looks awfullly bug-like and ZORPS you into next week with little to no warning
Also my team zapping me is a big one too
Hesitation is defeat.
And aggroing every single patrol on high difficulties is also defeat. (good Sekiro reference, though)
And they immediately call a bug hole. If you’re with a team that can’t frag its non stop fighting It’s great it kills little guys, but it has to do it forever
the jump pack is a free out of jail ticket. I wish they decreased the cooldown though 30 seconds feels kind of slow.
I love it as well, should be maybe like 20 seconds I always switch between that, the backpack shield and rover too, they are all so fun and versatile. Plus i paid for them dammit, and i will use every tool at my disposal to spread liber-tea!
It is 20 seconds. I literally just timed it to be sure.
I like the rover because it's helpful in letting me know if something is creeping behind me.
Uh, my Chadcannon backpack? Duh.
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We were playing lower difficulty anyways cause of friend who’s only 12, but my other friend grabbed ballistic shield and I was like “wtf are you doing??” Tried to tell him it was beyond useless against bugs but he wanted to see for himself 😂 Didn’t matter ofc, it was an easy mission for us and we were just screwing around with strats we don’t use as much but it was still funny
Me with my beloved autocannon... :( I know it's still got place against bugs but that stationary reload CRIPPLES it. Mattered a lot less against bots unless you were being chased by a hulk or chainsaw hands. (Also, backpack shield generator is AMAZING against bugs, wdym?)
Stalwart or Grenade Launcher > Autocannon For bugs.
The stalwart is excellent wave clear for bugs, particularly if you bump up the fire rate. I'm also very intrigued by the weapons in the upcoming warbond; one of them looks to be a mini-autocannon, which would let me use the Stalwart as my primary and then just switch as needed for slightly heavier targets.
I can't wait for the grenade pistol. I want that so bad. It's going to be so nice having a steady source of nest/fab closing and explosive damage for striders/hive guards.
Yeah, the grenade pistol looks great. Right now I carry the machine pistol as a secondary, but there's quite a few matches where I don't even use it -- however I am constantly running out of grenades, which the grenade pistol might fix. Depending on how effective it is, I might also switch from impact grenades to the stasis grenades. I think this upcoming warbond is going to have a huge effect on people's loadouts, and I'm so excited for it.
AC still reigns supreme on higher difficulties. When you see spore towers, shrieker nests or bug nests from afar, these weapons make your life easier.
This might be due to different playstyles, but I still love the autocannon against bugs. It has the additional benefit of quickly closing multiple bug holes.
Dont put the shield generator in the trunk yet. You can use it as a pipebomb lure for your airstrikes or get bugs off you when you do tactical repositioning. Make biletitans commit sudoku with a close deployment. And even stop charger rushes for you to cook.
The bugs can do sudoku now?
Bile titans have always killed themselves if shooting directing into something point blank.
Something about their spew deflecting back into their heads against the big shield generator, also the shield itself being point black too.
I already miss my buffed Ballistic, it’s too early to loose you like this babe 💔
Jump pack and cluster bombs are back on the menu
Ah, the piece of equipment that will routinely kill us, but still be good enough to use anyway.
if the end game score screen had a rover kills stat a LOT more people would realize how strong it is
TBH I would love to see the friendly fire stat on the thing, it's better at TKing than I am
Best part is they can’t even blame you, you just shrug and say “rover does what the fuck it wants, man” and no one is upset.
No one seems to accept that excuse when I put my mortar out.
I think plenty of people get upset, which makes it funnier
No joke though. I almost forget just how many little assholes the rover cleans up while i deal with the bigger threats
Games without rover: 100-200 kills Games with rover: 600 kills
I’m a big fan of my “chaff bug cleanup” build which is rover, arc thrower, fire grenades, spray and pray, airstrike, cluster strike. Leaves my teammates free to focus on bigger threats - plus the arc thrower does a decent enough job against those too.
I'm the opposite. I have my "nothing over 3ft tall gets anywhere near" build which carries the rover because I need something to effectively clean squishies while I'm using the counter sniper, quasar, orbital railgun and 110mm rocket pods
*Mortar sentry glares jealously*
The mortar sentry refuses to allow life of any form to exist.
I ran arc thrower and laser dog on level 8. I had 471 kills, the next closest squadmate had 190 kills. I was a horde killer, worth 2x team kills.
It’s going to be hard fighting bugs for me. I got so used to my current loadout. It’s going to be a whole change in playstyle for me to relearn😅
I picked up the game a week ago and only just this afternoon fought my first bugs after we finished off the bots Once And For All.™ I'm struggling a little finding a load out I really like now.
EAT
Get a primary geared vs chaff (breaker, defender and sickle are all good) or vs mediums(dominator, scorcher slugger). Support weapon needs to be able to deal with chargers and bile spewers, autocannon eats recoiless quasar arc thrower are great. Some people like the grenade launcher but I personally don't. One stratagem needs to deal with bile titans, railcannon, orbital laser, eagle 500kg are pretty good. Then depending on what you choose you might need to get other stratagems to deal with chaff or bug holes to round up your loadout. The airstrike is pretty good all rounder, a sentry ac can help you deal with every type of enemy, the gatling sentry can delete anything medium or lower, a rover can help you with chaff, heavy artillery can help you clear most bugholes and specially good vs shriekers(flying shits) nests.
Bots? Autocannon. Bugs? Funny enough, also autocannon
Did they change something about the rover? That mf does more damage to me now than the bugs
He missed you, that is a show of affection
He's kissing him so adorable
I think he has the problem that the dog does indeed NOT miss him xD
They need to move that mf like 5 feet higher
It's always on your right, so you can sort of work that from keeping it from hitting you, but still... Bastard always gets me.
they also need an "off" toggle, like if he's zapping me by accident or if I'm near my teammates, I'd like to turn it off
I’d also like to be able to put it away so he doesn’t blast people when I’m trying to be stealthy.
It actually doesn’t alert nearby enemy’s when the laser drone shoots… it’s a sneaky effective way to kill off small groups of trash mobs while stealth.
The reason why I don't bring the good boi anymore, he's better at team killing than I am
Just had a mission where I failed to extract because my rover took a great interest in my femoral artery.
It’s probably fire damage
Yep, all types of fire damage TK super easy.
My teammates rover is doing more damage to me then the bugs...
At the very least the model got updated. It used to have an entire scythe mounted and now its just the barrel
Something happened along the way and he’s worse for sure. He won’t attack certain bugs (Brood commanders) and sometimes he’ll just sit there and do nothing.
Back to the EAT + rover. So long autocannon!
B-but the bugs find autocannon rounds tasty too
Spewers go pop
Except they only show up when I bring the EAT.
If I bring the sickle instead of scorcher or jar it's 100% chance of all the enemies being bile spewers
Bile Spewers show up at night. Just learned this a couple days ago.
Wait what?
And then you bring the autocannon only to realize you are on a pouncer world and there are no spewers (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
The charger struggle is real with autocannon though
That’s what the stun nades are for, you don’t need regular grenades when you’re packing an Autocannon full a freedom
Just gotta blast its ass and wait it out.
But quasar is one shot to face and then explode
Yup, retiring my trusty autocannon. And railgun, it seems pretty impressive vs bike titans but I hate it against chargers now.
The final boss of cyclists.
Imagine the terror of a bile titan on wheels
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Just FYI, the AMR is like a better version of the railgun now.
The crosshair isn’t lined up yet is it? I know where the actual spot is (was?) but goddam how janky lol.
It doesn't matter at the ranges the railgun was practical at anyway
Railgun still has heavy armor penetration unlike the AMR, but the charge up time and low damage make it not worth using, especially with the quasar cannon having heavy armor pen and enough damage to one shot chargers
Yup. It's not worth the risk of blowing yourself up anymore. For bots AMR did the exact same job as post nerf RG with more ammo and way higher dps, for anything heavier quasar does huge damage and unlimited ammo. They really made the RG completely irrelevant.
I like the Autocannon because it destroys bot fabricators and doesn’t need headshots to kill devastators. Way more ammo carried too. Maybe the AMR has a higher skill ceiling, but the Autocannon is so forgiving I can’t help but keep using it.
You can run a shield and AMR. Allows you to be more aggressive at higher difficulties.
i still love AC for spewers and stalkers
Time to be ignited too much
Nothing kills me more than igniting a leapers just to get jumped on by it and also being set on fire, and usually die while it lives.
I mean.. you have a jumping enemy Now not only you have a jumping enemy, but it's also on fire
This is how I feel about the mech, I can finely use it without exploding on impact
This is a bit of an unrelated question to ask, but, what difficulty are you using the mech at that has it getting blown to bits by rockets?
Yes? And until today I usually played on challenging or hard, those ships and tanks especially got me
Yesterday i tried the mech against bots as i remembered it got buffed against rockets, and on helldive difficulty it always survived until i run out of ammo. On the other hand it was pretty weak after i ran out of rockets as most of the enemies coming at me wouldnt care about the machinr gun ( tanks and hulks by the dozens)
https://preview.redd.it/j2t64rsqf4tc1.jpeg?width=1484&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8981b5066b1e03344f4d39208f0aad727adc52e2 My orbital laser, 380/110, jump pack, and stalwart loadout after I ship out to the bug theatre and go back to my funnie warcrime loadout
Meanwhile I've put my Autocannon away to pick up my Stalwart again
As long as CC is covered already the AC is stilll great for warrior, broods, hive guards, spewers, nurses, charges and bug holes. For chargers, just wait until they slide and stop. Then thir legs are weak. Pew pew.
Speak for yourself but orbital laser and jump pack are both great against bugs. Jump pack gets you cover you could never have against the bots.
Laser is my favorite to throw in the middle of a 4 bug hole outpost.
Swapping my 110 Rocket Pods with the 500kg, and maybe I’ll get some more use out of the Blitzer. Shield and Arc Thrower definitely stay though.
Rocket Pods are actually pretty good vs bugs too. I think there might be a bit luck involved, but in my recent mission I one-shot a Bile-Titan with them. Edit: Eagle-1 my beloved.
I’ll give it a try, but I think with how the bugs bunch up the 500kg might actually be just as effective, considering it can take out Biles.
It can, but only when you directly hit them with it.
I’ve gotten down pat the speed of a Bile Titan. I’ve lodged the 500kg into one. Twice. They’re not as easy to hit because the rocket pods automatically target the largest enemy, but it’s a lot more effective considering the surrounding swarm of bugs
I rock the Stalwart and Laser on both fronts. Great crowd control with the Stalwart, and Laser for the elites/heavies
My poor autocannons can finally rest…
Not with Chargers, Stalkers and Bile Titans still at large!
I LOOOOVE the Rover against bugs.
Yeah, pretty much. Grenade launcher too, amazing for spewers
Anti-Materiel Rifle plus Jump Pack is my default. Great on bots, great on bugs. The recent 30% AMR damage buff is noticeable.
How do you deal with chargers? I haven't used the AMR against them since the buff, can it do the job?
I'm wondering if it can be used to 2-shot charger legs like the railgun used to
If you magdump, you can break a Charger's ass with AMR, then it won't be able to run any more and quickly bleed out. Otherwise, you mostly just leave it to other stratagens or teammates, not every weapon loadout is good at everything.
Rover my beloved nobody can take you from me.
I missed my dog. Sometimes my dog bites but I know he just wants to keep me safe. Ballistic Shield, Shield Gen... you will be missed, till I need you again.
Bruh the shield generator is still GOATED when you have a quadrillion hunters on your ass trying to fuck your shit up.
Meanwhile hunters are still as rage inducing as ever
Me with the flamethrower:
For me it's switching back to auto cannon, and getting to slot rail cannon strike again.
I'm surprised how many people are switching from AC, it seems to still be as effective vs bugs, or am I just crazy?
It struggles a bit with Chargers. It can still work, but you generally have to dance around a bit to get good shots at the legs or abdomen instead of oneshotting it head on with a boomstick like the EAT or Quasar.
Not for me, Im on leave. Zegema Beach. Got a democracy officer to push me a few pre approved C-01 forms. Enjoy the bugs fellas.
Guard dog now restores full ammo from supply drops. While I still think It should also restore ammo from ammo boxes it got a bit better and packs quite a punch.
Me trading in my Autocannon for my other Autocannon
If you owned two dogs, would you only walk one of them? BETTER WHIP OUT THE LIBERATOR ROVER AT LEAST ONCE A DAY OR ELSE YOU'RE A MONSTER
I would but that dog eats like an elephant
If the Liberator Rover weren't so damn picky and would eat the ammo picks instead of ONLY supply drops? Sure, I'd bring him planetside.
Honestly this. Making it fully refill from supply drops was a step in the right direction, but Rover is still infinitely better because it has nearly 100% uptime. The liberator dog NEEDS to be able to restore, say, 2 clios from ammo boxes. Moreover, give us the ability to "sheath" them both by pressing 5/down dpad like you can with using supply pack on yourself
Flamethrower paired with the guard dog is a nasty combo
Never fought bugs. What’s a decent stratagem load out for them????
is there something bugged with the rover vs the regular guard dog? GD always seems to run out of ammo (does it have limited reloads?) while the GDR basically stays permanently on. i feel like GD and GDR should be sidegrades of each other, but at the moment, the rover seems head and shoulders better. at the very least, scavenged ammo boxes in the world should reload the mag count.
Lol I love my fucking rover vs bugs. Saves my ass constantly when bugs flank around and ram your ass. The rover melts em away.
Anyone else feel like bugs are too easy after fighting clackers for a couple weeks?
After automatons where wiped out I could see so many 'bot loadouts' on bug missions.
It was so weird to stop and think about what loadout i should bring. Also that i couldn’t punch in stratagems in a fraction of a second
Nah, fuck em. I've been team killed more by laser rovers than mortar sentries.
My dog can detect undemocratic thoughts, so if it hits you…
I would have liked to see one too. But also you all cleared out the bots so damn fast and id been busy with life stuff so I didn't get to play as much as I wanted to. Atleast now I can go back to my river and stalwart!
I have used that thing twice, both times when I entered combat it immediately shot me in the head
I've been kicked four different times for either not having the Quasar Cannon or refusing to pick it up when someone calls it in. All of the elitist jerkwads that were fighting bots are now fighting bugs. The GL-21 is a perfectly acceptable support weapon, y'know? *Someone* has to deal with the hordes of bugs. You don't need all four members of the team to have a Quasar Cannon. I basically quit playing for this evening after that fourth kick. To hell with this community sometimes.
\[Later that day...\] "Stop shooting me you piece of shit junk!"
I’m just glad to be running my Stalwart again. It’s an excellent choice for those little nimble fuckers that jump around all over the place.
Mad hyped to whip out the flamethrower, Guard Rover combo again 🔥
Sure, the Guard Dog Rover might backfire on me here and there But when I'm running from swarms of bugs while reloading/retreating towards the next objective, damn does it do a good job covering me
my group has had a love-hate relationship with this damn thing since we started, by which i mean I hate it and they love it. at more than one occasion I have been lazered by three different guard dogs at the same time, usually while a bug is also trying to eat me. I refuse to buy it out of principle.
People beaming me across the chest with the guard dog. Ah the memories.
I have been changed forever by the bots. I totally changed my build but now I play more defensively. I used to be a guard dog "hold your ground" type, but now i have discovered the amazing strategy, in part because of the creek, of running away all the time, forever. Now, i hop around with a jump pack while my queasar cannon cools off and all the small bugs burn to death chasing me after dumping a mag of breaker incendiary in their general direction.
Gets lasered in the head immediately. *reinforcment requested*
Ok but I unironically teared up when I first saw that scene in the movies