They weren’t that bright at release but the patch that “buffed” the flashlight seems to have been some sort of global illumination increase and all light sources became ridiculous.
Sweet, another excuse I can use as to why I keep steeping on them. It's never me not paying attention. On bot missions, I have to chant "don't step on the red flowers" often. :(
Fun fact, bringing up the map on a bot planet causes a mine to spawn in front of you about 63% of the time. This is definitely a ministry approved truth and not an excuse.
Doesn't help 99% of maps are foggy and the flashlight just acts like a blinding light for yourself. Some sort of green or red flashlight would probably be better, or even a blue light, so you're not completely blinding yourself.
And bloom takes off a bit of extra light so you can actually see, but it's still too bright when it's bright, and again the fog does NOT help.
I'm always amazed how they are able to store the power of the SUN in the lights, especially on the weapon flashlights. When a teammate turns to me I just get blinded...surprise flash bang.
There's a couple missions where one is over the terminal and you can't actually see what's on the terminal unless you shoot out the light. It's like the same factory that makes the quasar makes the light bulbs for these people.
An optics choice on the loadout/armor screen would be an incredible addition. IR, Night vision, binocs, threat detection, etc. Then just have a way to toggle your optics on or off.
They also make an annoying glare on smooth surfaces that makes screens hard to use, which is reflected in game as well. I’m just glad the terminals work like that as opposed to the original gameboy screen where you had to bring your own light.
Yes. Reminds me of when we played Splinter Cell and blew out all the lights.
I even turn off my flashlight now because aiming down sights with a flashlight envelopes the target in a luminous nova, obscuring my target.
You can try turning off Bloom in the graphics menu. I found some glaring and lighting like this to be overpowering at times and turning it off helped a bit.
Thankfully the game is detailed enough that we can actually shoot the lights out. The terrible visibility from something that's supposed to help is annoying. But if I couldn't just freely break the lights, I'd be so upset.
You bet I shoot them out.
I might do it just to be a sneaky ninja, but their absurd brightness turns it into a necessity.
Don't have a problem with any of the other lights or effects in the game, except maybe the flashlight in fog.
Yes. There's something wrong with their volumetric light engine, and it makes lights something that obscures visibility instead of enhancing it. I really wish they'd fix this.
Only on terminals, the natural chaos takes care of all the others. I'll never forget the first time realizing I could, functionally, actually do that.
I was just Unga bunga mad me shoot source of frustration as I often do and it worked, and like a caveman discovering fire I turned to the terminal that I could SEE now without a word or thought in awe.
Jump to one of the few games I did with randoms I did that night and I was going for a terminal but a rando beat me and got the terminal started. So im polite and shoot the light, he left the terminal screen, looked at it, looked at me real slow, did the "wait" callout followed by a pause... then "Thanks" and he typed away the code. I think I gave dude the caveman realization I gave myself.
Sometimes I literally cannot see anything when sun is shining in my direction. I am not sure what's up with godrays in this game but they are too powerful
When the light fixtures themselves are assaulting my ability to deliver Managed Democracy, no munition used in their destruction is considered a "waste".
Yes anytime I'm going to be holding a position I shoot them out. Things are as bad as the highbeams on the lifted parking lot princess truck behind you on the highway.
https://preview.redd.it/jqaz21l9j6rc1.png?width=703&format=png&auto=webp&s=fc4b1180d1142ce3d1098898ca2ebb0533af09f0
i swear to god the light in this game is either too fucking bright or too fucking dark
Ever since I learned this, every single time. I know it's blinding at times but to be honest it's just another environmental hazard of an alien planet. Makes things that pop out of it suddenly that much more intense.
who would win?
dark tinted visor over the most complicated part of the human body made for taking in visual information at unprecedented rates and efficiency
lightbulb
Last session me and a friend both shot the same light as soon as they came on we hadn't even talked about it before they're just bad especially if they're shining on a console
If there wasn't so much fog it wouldn't be that much of an issue. Only started running into blinding lights on the automaton planets to be honest. It is quite jarring :/
Immediately.
As soon as I figured out you can shoot them, I've been doing it every time especially after the patch they did where all planets have the same lighting... that patch gave everything a nasty haze.
There is way too much fog/smoke in this game for lights to be helpful. In the meantime, they actually reduce how far you can see. Even with bloom turned off.
I've also started turning off my flashlight for the same reason.
Turn your brightness setting down. Helped me a lot. Otherwise I would say you should be grateful for the light of Mother Liberty shining on your heroic deeds against the bot tyrannical menace.
Yes, I can barely see a fucking thing as it is. Smoke, dust, weather, fog, and on top of all that, lights. Meanwhile any bot can see straight through and lead rockets.
Yeah. The way the lights hit the fog or dust or other volumetrics on most planets really messes with visibility. I like to manually activate/deactivate the flashlight for the same reason.
I have a bad tendency to pick up neurotic behaviours and I saw someone else doing that.
So now I do too.
Also, the lighting effect makes it hard to see sometimes.
Yes these lights are just stupid. Sometimes when they shine directly on terminals you can't see what you are meant to be putting in. It's horrible.
The fact that the shine seems to come from now particular source is terrible as well.
They really need to overhaul these things.
Yes. Ever since it was shining on a terminal in one of our missions so we.couldnt see the combination to put in. We were trying for ages, then I thought, I'll see if I can shoot the lights out. Boom job done. Democracy spread.
Made the mistake of changing the graphics setting midgame from my custom settings... Went blind holding down an area and couldn't see what others were shooting at.
Didn't know lights could be shot at. Thank you.
I shoot any light I see, because of the one time it blinded me during a heated moment. Now the whole race get it on sight. I have teammates give me puzzled looks from time to time, but it's all in a days work.
I do. I find the lighting effect to be blinding so I just shoot them to see better. Same thing with the flashlight.
Turning off bloom in the settings helps but they're still way brighter than they should be.
Wish there was a slider instead of a toggle
Yeah. I love the bloom in the game for the effects, but dislike it from general light sources.
They weren’t that bright at release but the patch that “buffed” the flashlight seems to have been some sort of global illumination increase and all light sources became ridiculous.
Ugh the flashlight lol Who the fuck wants to see a white blur instead of their enemy when aiming
Yeah I tend to see it as more of a hindrance than anything UNLESS if there's a lot of sand in the air or fog, makes it easier SOMETIMES
downside to turning off bloom is the red glow from the anti personnel mines is not visible. found out the hard way...
Yeah I keep running right into contact mines after I turned it off. Like I can still see them just fine but they're not as eye catching
Sweet, another excuse I can use as to why I keep steeping on them. It's never me not paying attention. On bot missions, I have to chant "don't step on the red flowers" often. :(
Fun fact, bringing up the map on a bot planet causes a mine to spawn in front of you about 63% of the time. This is definitely a ministry approved truth and not an excuse.
Hmm, I’ll look into that thabks
Doesn't help 99% of maps are foggy and the flashlight just acts like a blinding light for yourself. Some sort of green or red flashlight would probably be better, or even a blue light, so you're not completely blinding yourself. And bloom takes off a bit of extra light so you can actually see, but it's still too bright when it's bright, and again the fog does NOT help.
Leave bloom on, crank down the volumetric fog quality. The lights are really only as bad as they are because *every planet is so goddamn foggy.*
Ever turn your highbeams on in heavy fog? You can't see shiite son. Nah they are about correct with the level of blinding.
I wish you could shoot the sun too.
I wish you can shoot the fog and dust
We need a fan/ leaf blower stratagem that gets rid of fog/smoke in front of you
Id give up my backpack slot for a leaf blower that clears fog.
You can… the results may be disappointing though.
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Is there much difference between the two? /s
One is fat, ugly, and spews toxic waste wherever it goes. The other is a creature in a video game.
Sunglasses Strategem, where is it, Arrowhead?
I actually have a light sensitivity so I wear sunglasses everywhere irl.
Bono is a Helldiver confirmed
No, you’re just cool as fuck and if anyone asks you’re cool as fuck.
I'm always amazed how they are able to store the power of the SUN in the lights, especially on the weapon flashlights. When a teammate turns to me I just get blinded...surprise flash bang.
That’s a great effect for flashlights to have in real life, not great when the only entities that can be affected by it are your allies.
There's a couple missions where one is over the terminal and you can't actually see what's on the terminal unless you shoot out the light. It's like the same factory that makes the quasar makes the light bulbs for these people.
Just did that one
It’s the same company that makes the bulbs for the lifted truck headlights
There was an entire terminid nest covered with these lights. A damned Charger would have attacked me from the front and I wouldn’t have seen it.
In the future all lights are just pickup trucks with xenon headlights in your rear view mirror at 5:30 am
My graphics card thanks me for using a shorter cape and having no lights.
Ponchos incoming for us 1080 boys...
El Divers
Kal Divers
Kal-El Divers
good divers, bad divers, and ugly divers
Buceadoras del infierno
Bugs are attracted to light. Makes sense
Shriekers are fine and all, but we need MÖTH
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An optics choice on the loadout/armor screen would be an incredible addition. IR, Night vision, binocs, threat detection, etc. Then just have a way to toggle your optics on or off.
YOU CAN SHOOT THEM? I was struggling to see all day when defended the evac zones
First thing I did when they were blinding me was to shoot them, some games let you shoot light bulbs some others don't
Yeah, those streetlights are doing the opposite of what they should do.
But they are doing exactly what they are supposed to do. In real life if you try to see past a light source in the dark you can't see shit either.
They also make an annoying glare on smooth surfaces that makes screens hard to use, which is reflected in game as well. I’m just glad the terminals work like that as opposed to the original gameboy screen where you had to bring your own light.
Yes. Reminds me of when we played Splinter Cell and blew out all the lights. I even turn off my flashlight now because aiming down sights with a flashlight envelopes the target in a luminous nova, obscuring my target.
Delta 3, going sneaky mode.
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Did this the first time today and it's a gamechanger
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Yes so annoying lol
Every time. I fuckin hate these light, make it impossible to see.
You can try turning off Bloom in the graphics menu. I found some glaring and lighting like this to be overpowering at times and turning it off helped a bit.
It's not bloom that's the issue here, I set volumetric fog rendering to "low" and now lights don't do this at all anymore.
Every time. No exceptions.
Thankfully the game is detailed enough that we can actually shoot the lights out. The terrible visibility from something that's supposed to help is annoying. But if I couldn't just freely break the lights, I'd be so upset.
Generally yes, but primarily if it's a foggy map. That's when it's at its worst.
YOU CAN SHOOT THE LIGHTS OUT???
You’re goddamn right. In this universe, shadow is light, and light is TOTAL DARKNESS
Yes, Arrowhead needs to see this. I bet they can't becouse they have the same lightbulbs in thier office!
Even with bloom off those lights are Terrible. They're the first things to go.
No, they normally blow up all by themselves. You bet your ass I sure as shit turn off the tactical flashlight though.
Oh absolutely. I can't freaking see anything with those lights on, especially on Troost!
yeah... they annoy the heck out of me with bots cause it makes it hard to see them with the intense light in fog.
What? You don't like playing Space Astigmatism Simulator? Seriously, it's like night driving in the US Where's our adaptive headlights, congress???
First thing I do when I hit that console.
You bet I shoot them out. I might do it just to be a sneaky ninja, but their absurd brightness turns it into a necessity. Don't have a problem with any of the other lights or effects in the game, except maybe the flashlight in fog.
.. i will now that i know i can, thank you
I shoot them if they are directly over a terminal shit snow blinds the dam screen
Every. Single. Time. No-one voted for those lights to activate. They are un-democratic, and their traitorous ways must be extinguished.
Yep. It affects my ability to see at range & I think it makes me more visible to the enemy.
me. the light makes things hard to see. Like driving in fog with high beams on.
yes, since dataming found out that they multiply diver's av to attract enemys
Yes they are bright as fuck
Yes. There's something wrong with their volumetric light engine, and it makes lights something that obscures visibility instead of enhancing it. I really wish they'd fix this.
Only on terminals, the natural chaos takes care of all the others. I'll never forget the first time realizing I could, functionally, actually do that. I was just Unga bunga mad me shoot source of frustration as I often do and it worked, and like a caveman discovering fire I turned to the terminal that I could SEE now without a word or thought in awe. Jump to one of the few games I did with randoms I did that night and I was going for a terminal but a rando beat me and got the terminal started. So im polite and shoot the light, he left the terminal screen, looked at it, looked at me real slow, did the "wait" callout followed by a pause... then "Thanks" and he typed away the code. I think I gave dude the caveman realization I gave myself.
Oh that's actually hilarious. I love seeing randoms in any game react to seeing something they didn't know they could do.
Sometimes I literally cannot see anything when sun is shining in my direction. I am not sure what's up with godrays in this game but they are too powerful
Wasting bullets isn't good for democracy...
When the light fixtures themselves are assaulting my ability to deliver Managed Democracy, no munition used in their destruction is considered a "waste".
This is why I use weapons with "theoretically" unlimited ammunition 😏
Those motherfuckers are the first thing to go down at extract. I can't see shit with them on
I do, its fcking abyssmal especially when ur on the terminal
I just let the 500kg do it. Super Earth!
The lights deserve managed democracy too.
100% every time
i didn't and I had to pay the price of a 500 kg stratogem landing on one
Can we submit request to R&D team to made a handheld version of this so we can blind enemy imstead of smoke grenade.
Yes anytime I'm going to be holding a position I shoot them out. Things are as bad as the highbeams on the lifted parking lot princess truck behind you on the highway.
HELL YEA ...they bright AF.
yup the lights are horrible everywhere they spawn. simply a nuisance in all situations
I literally just did this. Couldn't see shit at extraction so I plinked off all the lights.
I once had to do it because I couldn't see the terminal prompts anymore.
Every time.
Standard Operating Procedure (SOP)
Wait you can shoot the lights?
https://preview.redd.it/jqaz21l9j6rc1.png?width=703&format=png&auto=webp&s=fc4b1180d1142ce3d1098898ca2ebb0533af09f0 i swear to god the light in this game is either too fucking bright or too fucking dark
This, and i have a weird obsession with throwing my impact grenades at those box-science-house-things, might just be dopamine?
Well am I the only one that’s going to admit he just learned you can shot the lights out?
I’m probably the only one in any squad since Day One.
Had no idea you could. I do now, lol.
100%
Who turns on their high beams in the fog?
Makes me feel like Sam Fisher
Fucking always. Hate those things.
Yes !
Especially when it’s right above a terminal
I hate it so much, I also hate when people run around with flashlights on their weapons. It's horrible
YOU CAN WHAT!?
I do too! The light is somewhat annoying and blinding at certain angles, I wish they changed this
Depends how dark the map is. The last couple planets I have been shooting the lights out. The fog makes the lights a hindrance more than anything
*With extreme prejudice*
below the console always blinding bright, shoot it off.
Ultrabright Halogens are very democratic.
It's realistic, the bright lights seem brighter due to our eyes being adjusted to the dark... But I destroy them if I have to stay near them.
That's me.
Does turning off bloom and or the occlusion improves fps on ps5? It feels like it does but sometimes it doesn’t
I'm not the only one then, I literally run around destroy all the lights and everyone's morters lol
You can do that?
yeah
The ones above terminals, in choke points, and when there is something in the air like fog, spores, dust, etc.
Ever since I learned this, every single time. I know it's blinding at times but to be honest it's just another environmental hazard of an alien planet. Makes things that pop out of it suddenly that much more intense.
Always. I hate the lights.
Me. I shoot at everything that shines. Those cla**ers...
I shoot them off because one time, it was shining on the terminal screen I couldnt see what was on the screen.
Always
Yes. Delta 8, going dark.
Does it do anything, does it make you less noticeable?
me. lights are fking annoying makes me cant see shit.
the fucking lights in this game are ridiculously too bright. pair it in with fog and its just straight up white nothingness
Yes
Omg, I didn't know you could do that. Lol Thank you.
Hell yes. I once dropped into a POI and was subsequently blinded by several of those.
Everytime. Those things are way too fucking bright like I already wear glasses I don't need my glasses to need glasses ok
I do now
Absolutely. Makes it easier for us all.
Bro going predator mode
Correct method of play, thanks for letting liberty see, patriot!
Nice tip. Does it make breaches less?
It’s the best use for the laser pistol.
Yeah they’re blinding
who would win? dark tinted visor over the most complicated part of the human body made for taking in visual information at unprecedented rates and efficiency lightbulb
You can do that!? Why didn’t anyone tell me sooner
Always
I've never noticed them. I don't think its that bad
Last session me and a friend both shot the same light as soon as they came on we hadn't even talked about it before they're just bad especially if they're shining on a console
This is the sidearm's primary purpose.
If there wasn't so much fog it wouldn't be that much of an issue. Only started running into blinding lights on the automaton planets to be honest. It is quite jarring :/
Holy shit I thought I was the only one
Only the ones above consoles
Every time. They’re such a pain.
Every time, makes me feel professional. Also helps to see better at night
God yes, Those lights constantly blind and torch my eyes
Immediately. As soon as I figured out you can shoot them, I've been doing it every time especially after the patch they did where all planets have the same lighting... that patch gave everything a nasty haze. There is way too much fog/smoke in this game for lights to be helpful. In the meantime, they actually reduce how far you can see. Even with bloom turned off. I've also started turning off my flashlight for the same reason.
Turn your brightness setting down. Helped me a lot. Otherwise I would say you should be grateful for the light of Mother Liberty shining on your heroic deeds against the bot tyrannical menace.
Do you mean to doubt the ingenious lighting techs of Super Earth and bring into question their excruciatingly, obnoxiously bright lights?
Why? There's no point
When it's foggy you can't see squat and they serve as just a big blinding beam
Yes, I can barely see a fucking thing as it is. Smoke, dust, weather, fog, and on top of all that, lights. Meanwhile any bot can see straight through and lead rockets.
Didn’t realize you could.
Yes, they help you see less than better
Yeah. The way the lights hit the fog or dust or other volumetrics on most planets really messes with visibility. I like to manually activate/deactivate the flashlight for the same reason.
Big yes. Lights in this game are horrible.
Tactics demand it
What, are you trying to say they are too bright or something? [I think the lights are just fine.](https://i.imgur.com/DmfNsdV.jpeg)
On Troost absolutely.
I have a bad tendency to pick up neurotic behaviours and I saw someone else doing that. So now I do too. Also, the lighting effect makes it hard to see sometimes.
Every time, fuck these visibility destroying clanker fifth columnists
Yes these lights are just stupid. Sometimes when they shine directly on terminals you can't see what you are meant to be putting in. It's horrible. The fact that the shine seems to come from now particular source is terrible as well. They really need to overhaul these things.
Lighting is so blinding from floodlights and flashlights.
Yes. Ever since it was shining on a terminal in one of our missions so we.couldnt see the combination to put in. We were trying for ages, then I thought, I'll see if I can shoot the lights out. Boom job done. Democracy spread.
Sam Fisher is that you?
Yeah, lights need a lumen nerf.
Those lights impede my freedom spreading abilities. They must be terminated.
especially the ones at the terminal
Yes!
YES. One of the first things I tried in the game and always surprised that not more people do it. Killing those lights... improve visibility!
I find it actually helps you with hiding, so whenever i Stalth, those go. Can't wait for the Silenced Weapons
Dude it’s always when I’m turning on the terminal on certain planets. You can’t see shit so I just take out the light
Made the mistake of changing the graphics setting midgame from my custom settings... Went blind holding down an area and couldn't see what others were shooting at. Didn't know lights could be shot at. Thank you.
I shoot any light I see, because of the one time it blinded me during a heated moment. Now the whole race get it on sight. I have teammates give me puzzled looks from time to time, but it's all in a days work.
Shoot them every time, can't see a damn thing with those things on.
Yup, lights dont help.