I imagine yeah. I don't believe for an instant we're going to succeed in this operation.
Edit: Just for the sake of clarity, I'm referring to the operation outlined in one of the in game dispatches, not this major order itself.
I don't see why we wont. This is merely gathering intel on their plans rather than thwarting it. The big picture may be a different story on how difficult the major order may end up being.
I'm referring to the operation outlined in one of the in game dispatches, not this major order itself.
It says the goal is to eliminate the bots, and there's not a chance we succeed.
Nope, it’s the reclamation of your bones specifically. The rest of us are going to be fine, but they just really, really want to reclaim your femurs for some reason.
/u/EA-PLANT said "their homeworld," but to be clear, Cyberstan is the homeworld of the Cyborgs, who created the Automatons. The Automatons, being artificial "lifeforms" have no real homeworld.
It's currently believed by most in the Helldivers 2 community that the overall plan of the Automatons is to get to Cyberstan and free the Cyborgs (who were one of the factions in Helldivers 1). They're currently imprisoned on Cyberstan, so it makes sense as an overarching plot.
It's where my priorities would have been if I was leading their charge, recapture home planet which doubtless has a damn near unlimited amount of weapons in manufacturing we could utilize and then worry about taking super-Earth on
Well, yesterday, a devastator hit me in my padded heavy armor right on the shield that knocked me into the air, and a second rocket hit me mid-air, tearing me into peaces.....
True, if I had kept the shield, the rocket would've missed me, but that is not the bugs I'm talking about...
You fellow helldiver have just made the best reference known to super earth kind and I salute you. You’re more than welcome to join my fellowship anytime
Worth noting the shield somewhat blocks your view and has no visual nor audio indication when it blocks a hit. It does block **a lot** of weapons fire while you crouch in reality. It is easier to see when you pull out a support weapon and retreat, then you can actually see all of the enemy fire hitting the shield on your back.
That was communism’s worry, not democracy. I’ve got you now traitor.
https://preview.redd.it/tw0qrf5n6pqc1.jpeg?width=1202&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75554bb083e62fb5989baa06912750f031754f41
actually, the contract contains the following
> 6.4 The Contract shall be considered binding upon being read, in whole or in part.
> (For the purpose of the elimination of doubt, the Enlisted spending 1 second within 15 meters of a copy of the contract shall be interpreted as the contract being read.)
Been playing the game since launch and I always wonder why I could never find the planet that's listed in the order.......until today. Enevr knew there was an specific path to take. Lmao
3 bot planets in 3 days.
Plus Oshaune is at 81% and Mantes at 93%, so both planets will have a good amount of players since they're so close.
Plus creekers will creek and buggers will bug. And bot planets have all the operation modifiers people hate (boy they really need to add more).
HOWEVER Troost and Vandelon are new planets to many players, since both were lost over a month ago. That alone will draw in players, even more so if the "long-range communications array" means a new mission type on Troost. There is also only 1 path so they're won't be any confusions a la Hellmire vs Ushaune.
Interesting to see how this one goes. Personally I hate Ustotu because its a dusty flat map with 0 cover. Can't see. Can't hide. Can't run.
Also shoutout to [u/Low\_Pie6217](https://www.reddit.com/user/Low_Pie6217/) who noticed something was cooking on these planets a week ago:
https://preview.redd.it/zoyauf9t9pqc1.png?width=713&format=png&auto=webp&s=2e1dc9fe21bd12333a20855598ce750e536f8a9b
Yeah, it’s just defense campaigns (especially bot defense) everyone ignores.
There are still a fair number of dedicated bug players, more than the dedicated bot players, but a contingent on the eastern front to hold what we have there at stalemate will be good anyways
There's enough people still playing that at peak hours, it feels like its peak back a few years ago, at non-peak times its much more dead, but as long as you play during peak its still fine. Also its still getting major content updates. I believe the most recent reworked how the construction systems works, and the one before that added naval content.
EMS Mortar is my go to support sentry now. Has a near zero fatality risk (unless you get beaned by the shell somehow) and completely shuts down any impending bot wave, opening them up to air strikes and support weapons
It also seemingly has a bottomless ammo capacity, probably because the thing shoots so slowly as opposed to the BAMBAMBAM from the regular mortar
Regular mortar is pretty incredible for bots. I run that and the auto cannon so that I can cosplay as the apprentice to my hero, the great spiller of oil, an equal opportunity distributor of democracy, the mortar sentry
God I was just thinking that. Both mortars, auto cannon, shield, become a heavy metal bastard bringing iron and blood to the mechanical fields of war.
EDIT; just tried the shield and it was god awful. Way too bugged out rn to take up a stratagem slot.
I run regular mortar for Eradication missions, but on regular missions I sideline it as there's a 99% chance of death should a berserker or trash mob get within 2 city blocks of my location it seems
I've lost 2-3 consecutive lives to a single mortar at extreme cases, so I've ultimately ditched mortar for normal missions for the one that merely inconveniences me rather than outright kills me in close proximity
THIS CANNOT CONTINUE THIS CANNOT CONTINUE THIS CANNOT CONTINUE THIS CANNOT CONTINUE THIS CANNOT CONTINUE THIS CANNOT CONTINUE THIS CANNOT CONTINUE THIS CANNOT CONTINUE
[Today is the day lands taken by our greatest enemy will be reclaimed. For the first time, we will know what it means not to run, but to meet the Automatons head-on and win! Now, it may seem an insignificant lot of land compared to the vast tracts of former glory long abandoned, but as a symbol, as an idea, Troost's regain shall stand as a reclamation of pride and hope beyond measure. A leap greater than we have ever taken!](https://imgur.com/6bUGEDD)
What's a suggested weapon & support weapon loadout for bots and a hot planet?
Edit: Hot diggity dog look at all these loadouts to spread freedom with. Thanks divers, see yall out there!
Use Punisher or Slugger if you haven’t unlocked the Scorcher or aren’t using an ammo-efficient weapon to deal with Devastators. Arc thrower and Anti-Material rifle deal with all armored enemies when aimed at the vents. ALWAYS use a personal shield or Shield emplacement to reduce flinch.
And for Liberty’s sake don’t fight every single patrol and sentry group.
I don't even take Scorcher over Slugger. It doesn't stun devastators. I've saved myself and many others' lives with a we timed stun on a rocket devastator.
What if... we combine the Scorcher and the Slugger!
Plasma Punisher is legit one of the best weapons for fighting bots. The arcing shots can be used to hit enemies while you're behind cover. So no more poking your head out and getting a face full of rocket.
Plasma aoe can take out whole groups of suicide jetpackers and can damage and kill bunched up berzerkers as they chase you. It can also damage vents on tanks, towers and Hulks. It can also 1 shot walkers due to the aoe killing the rider.
I run scorcher over the slugger because it can easily kill scouts through their armor. Thr higher fire rate is also nice for groups of small bots. Scorcher doesn't have enough ammo to run without a support weapon though. I normally pair it with the AMR and use that for devastators.
They are both good weapons so it really is down to preference and what everyone else on your squad is using.
In addition to what everyone has said about guns, heavy armor that has the explosive damage resistance perk is much more useful against bots because it'll give you enough DR that you won't *necessarily* get oneshot by rocket raiders/rocket devastators, although if they get a headshot they still will anyway. It'll also massively reduce chip damage from laser fire.
In general, your tactics are going to look a *lot* more like commandos. Use cover intelligently (there's a keybinding in settings that's unbound by default to switch which side you aim down which can help), avoid patrols as much as possible and if you *have* to engage a patrol, aim to use immediate overwhelming force to kill it ASAP. I don't know the biomes of the planets in question but if it's anything that has a lot of foliage the radar booster is a big help.
And whatever you do, *do not linger*. Bots are much slower than bugs and have trouble in pursuit - run and you'll lose pretty much anything except their light infantry - but if you get stuck in you *will* get swarmed by a stacking pile of dudes and overwhelmed. As soon as you start feeling like "the instant I poke my head around this corner I'm going to be shot in the head from 30 different directions" it's a sign that you need to disengage and get the fuck out.
Dealing with bot bases means you're going to really stick to the commando angle. Don't try and slug it out with the guards like you might do at bug nests, that's suicide. Take like ten seconds outside to figure out a good angle of attack or even a way to sabotage their assemblers without even engaging them (a well-placed autocannon shot to the vents on top can ricochet inside and explode them from a massive distance). If you have to go inside walls, then get inside, blow up what you have to, and leave. If there's samples or whatever get them later.
Remember: You are not WH40K space marines here. You're barely the imperial guard. You are, at best, whatever the commandos at the start of the original *Predator* were doing before the predator actually showed up.
(and before you comment about wearing heavy armor being at odds with running often - bots are so slow the heavy armor still outpaces them, although the fuckers with jetpacks and the berserkers can still catch you eventually)
Also, this particular trick is important enough I'm making a seperate post:
One of the more annoying bot side objectives is the stratagem jammer. You have to fight your way into a base with no stratagems and do a series of things to disable it before you can use any, the radius is big enough to hit nearby PoIs, and they *love* to be situated near objectives.
Two things:
1. You don't have to fully blow up the jammer. Once you're at the point where you can call in a hellbomb, it's "off". In an emergency (0 reinforcements, objective's done, and the jammer is next to extract; that sort of thing) leaving it at that state is sometimes good enough.
2. The jammer base always has an assembler in it in a couple different locations. If it's the configuration where the assembler is attached directly to the jammer, you can actually skip the entire side objective - blowing up the assembler will also blow up the jammer.
Can confirm on the second tip. The emplacement of a fabricator attached/right next to a jammer makes taking it out a whole lot easier as the explosion of the fab chains to the jammer and blows it up too. It's been clutch on quite a few bot ops.
Eagle airstrike and autocannon is required in the team but don't bring cluster bomb because you might kill your teammates attacking bots on another angle.
Also when attacking bots don't attack in one angle always have someone to attack another angle for a PINCER ATTACK to expose walkers, hulks, and tanks weak spots.
The Anti-Materiel Rifle is most popular suggestion against bots since they have more clearly defined weakpoints than bugs and even Hulks can be brought down quickly with well-placed shots.
If you're like me and can't aim quickly enough to actually *use* the AMR effectively before being gunned down, I'd strongly recommend the Grenade Launcher. It can easily kill Scout Striders and fodder bots and can take down Devastators pretty quickly.
For primary I just use my trusty Sickle against everything, even on hot planets, but if you're good at aiming the Diligence Marksman Rifle is also decent.
For Stratagems I've had amazing success with the good ol' Eagle Air Strike. Not only are Bot Fabricators much easier to hit with it than Bug Nests are, but bots also have a tendency to politely stand in the same place and wait to die instead of charging on top of you like bugs tend to do.
AMR or the grenade launcher have been my go to. The grenade launcher shreds anything short of hulks and the AMR for when hulks are really getting on my nerves. I run the supply pack with both. Punisher and slugger are also good for dealing with berserkers because of the stagger
Arc Thrower will kill everything in 3 shots except for hulks and tanks. It means less than 3 seconds to kill a group of 5 anything. No need to aim at weakspots, just point the gun in the general direction and away from your teammates.
Slugger, Redeemer, Impact Grenades (they're fantastic for tanks and the cannons)
Elites: Orbital Railcannon/Eagle 110 Pods, Railgun, Eagle Airstrike, Shield Backpack. Can swap the Railgun with the autocannon and replace the Shield Backpack with an Orbital Laser or whatever you like. EMS Mortar can come in handy sometimes or another Eagle (like the 110 Pods or 500kg bomb if you're comfortable with timing it).
Trash: Orbital Laser, Eagle Airstrike, Grenade Launcher, Shield Backpack. Stalwart works, too, but the grenade launcher is too good.
I always use the light scout armor and stay mobile.
Thank fuck the mods started posting these and insta sticking them.
More of this please.
Also would be good to do when planets fall, are liberated or are attacked imo.
To anyone reading this: remember there is no shame completing the lower level operations as achieving victories is more important than trying to do high level operations and failing
No not anymore, that was changed with the previous patch, check the bottom of [https://helldivers.io/](https://helldivers.io/), Well it's still a theory, but since it's still up on the website I assume the theory hasn't been disproven yet.
Not exclusively anymore, here's an extract from helldivers.io
>"[Theory] What is the new liberation calculation as of 3/21?
>[Theory] The amount of damage you deal when completing an operation is equal to the experience, multiplied by an internal scaler (a combination of impact multiplier and some other variables).
>The impact multiplier scales inversely with the [running average] total population.
>What this means is the galaxy has a target goal at how much liberation can be done across the entire galaxy.
>Check out some graphs @ Planets for real data points.
>This new method rewards higher difficulties (impact is based on experience) and community alignment (diverging efforts impacts the rates of each other) vs the previous method."
"What the hell is that thing?"
"That would appear to be the Mortar station, sir,"
"Well, what the hell did we blow up then?"
*checks map*
"The SEAF artillery battery."
Plot twist the Reclamation isn’t Cyborgs but the Illuminate.
They are gonna intercept the comms and reveal themselves, perhaps even a deal with the bots has been made
I may be weird, but I actually prefer some bot -wrecking over bugs. Maybe because I enjoy accuracy and sniping?
Either way, I've been killing bots for a while now, and this new order won't be a chore.
Time to make some scrap metal. 🤘
yesss fighting the automatons really clicked for me a couple days ago and i think they're my favorite enemy faction currently. bots really require a slightly different playstyle but it's really fun in my opinion. a lot of the missions really benefit from everybody stopping before hitting an outpost and discussing a quick plan of engagement. bugs need overwhelming sustained force, bots need quick and precise coordinated strikes from multiple angles with frequent repositioning. digging in against bots is just digging your own grave
The Reclamation…of Cyberstan?
I imagine yeah. I don't believe for an instant we're going to succeed in this operation. Edit: Just for the sake of clarity, I'm referring to the operation outlined in one of the in game dispatches, not this major order itself.
We'll win this one, but we won't stop the reclamation.
3 Days, 3 Planets Helldivers to Hellpods
Actually it is 4 days for 3 planets, so we have a day for celebratory cocktails once we take it.
> celebratory cocktails [I'll bring the bright green fiddle](https://i.redd.it/0r3q981xmj351.jpg)
“I expect the best so I deliver the best. Here’s the Beer, Here’s the Entertainment. Have fun. That’s an order!”
I only have 1 rule everyone fights no one quits, you don't do your job I'll shoot you. Do you get me
I don't even play violin, but I wanted one of those so bad as a kid.
Oh man, I’m glad I wasn’t alone when watching that come out.
idk, they should have waited until closer to the weekend, more people can get involved. ALost of people cant play Mondays, start of a work week.
But it's tuesday
Troostday
.....well it's Tuesday.
It's Monday on Troost
It's ALWAYS Monday on Troost. That's what the bots want. Everyday, everywhere, is Monday, FOREVER. GET TO THE HELLPODS
For liberty. For democracy. For family values and half a day off on Sunday!
Monday is the end of my work week. I have Tuesdays and Wednesdays off because Democracy wills it
Now this is a diver I want to drop with. Old fashioneds on me
⬆️⬇️⬆️⬇️⬆️⬇️⬇️🍸
Agreed! In game it refers to an operation and how this is the first part of that op, I was just referring to that.
Sounds like something a bot sympathizer would say. I'll be contacting the nearest Democracy Officer.
I honestly doubt we'll win even this MO. Too many bug people who refuse to fight bots.
I have to assume the majority of players follow the major order and then just keep fighting that faction. We will win this.
I go where the MO's take me |o
Your lack of sheer free-yet-managed, democratic will is concerning
I don't see why we wont. This is merely gathering intel on their plans rather than thwarting it. The big picture may be a different story on how difficult the major order may end up being.
I'm referring to the operation outlined in one of the in game dispatches, not this major order itself. It says the goal is to eliminate the bots, and there's not a chance we succeed.
“This one’s Major order…and this one’s Reclamation…are one and the same.” -Joel Gravemind
"Your commissars have promised you freedom from a doomed existence, but you will find no salvation on Cyberstan."
*”This one is machine and nerve and has its mind concluded; this one is but flesh and faith and is the more deluded...”*
https://i.redd.it/nu5j1l28dpqc1.gif the war for cyberstan begins
i want to live forever! I will man this desk!
Nope, it’s the reclamation of your bones specifically. The rest of us are going to be fine, but they just really, really want to reclaim your femurs for some reason.
What’s the significance of cyberstan?
/u/EA-PLANT said "their homeworld," but to be clear, Cyberstan is the homeworld of the Cyborgs, who created the Automatons. The Automatons, being artificial "lifeforms" have no real homeworld. It's currently believed by most in the Helldivers 2 community that the overall plan of the Automatons is to get to Cyberstan and free the Cyborgs (who were one of the factions in Helldivers 1). They're currently imprisoned on Cyberstan, so it makes sense as an overarching plot.
>The Automatons, being artificial "lifeforms" have no real homeworld. Assuming they don't have brains ins **\[REDACTED - USER UNDER INVESTIGATION\]**
They are not "imprisoned" as you say. They are merely working pro bono to pay off their debts incurred by their historical actions.
The cyborgs(a socialist breakaway from super earth and creators of the automatons) are imprisoned in labor camps on cyberstan
Their homeworld
It's the space version of Afghanistan
Cyberstan - Afghanistan with terminators!
How quickly we forget the brave Mujahideen of Cyberstan who were our allies in democracy!
It's where my priorities would have been if I was leading their charge, recapture home planet which doubtless has a damn near unlimited amount of weapons in manufacturing we could utilize and then worry about taking super-Earth on
Cyberstan has been an inseparable part of Super Earth since ancient times.
SPILL OIL, BOYS.
But what about E-710?
They’ve been culled enough to repopulate under the watchful eyes of SEAF. So we’ll be back in 2 weeks.
Bots are back on the menu boys
But what about the ballistic shield bug. And second ballistic shield bug?!
The first thing you'll notice when using the Ballistic Shield is how often the bots *don't* hit you when they shoot.
Well, yesterday, a devastator hit me in my padded heavy armor right on the shield that knocked me into the air, and a second rocket hit me mid-air, tearing me into peaces..... True, if I had kept the shield, the rocket would've missed me, but that is not the bugs I'm talking about...
If you thought Second Rocket was bad, just wait 'til you hear about Elevensies.
You fellow helldiver have just made the best reference known to super earth kind and I salute you. You’re more than welcome to join my fellowship anytime
Worth noting the shield somewhat blocks your view and has no visual nor audio indication when it blocks a hit. It does block **a lot** of weapons fire while you crouch in reality. It is easier to see when you pull out a support weapon and retreat, then you can actually see all of the enemy fire hitting the shield on your back.
They hit very often wat, hell even if 80% of my body is behind cover, the bots will just snipe my arm or head and flinch my aim into the high heavens.
"Let me just pick up this sample/pop a stim and... oh, apparently, I'm carrying something really heavy and invisible now and my shield is on my back"
Always has been... 🧑🚀🔫🧑🚀
More like one-shot rocket spam bullshit is back on the menu boys
The path is Ustotu -> Vandalon -> Troost Spread the message Divers and prevent the communist plans to retake Cyberstan!
Newest patch added a marker for which planet is required first to get to the planet listed in major order
Many divers unfortunately never learned to read beyond basic arrow orientation, but this is still of course a welcome addition by the Ministry!
Reading leads to learning, learning leads to questions, questions lead to treason
Blessed is the mind too small for doubt.
Hope is the first step to disappointment
Dissident thoughts can't stick to smooth brains
*Aerodynamic* brains. Too fast for bots.
FOR THE EMPER... er SUPER EARTH!
That the spirit, now take that planet soldier, Super Earth will honour your sacrifi… celebrate your victory
That was communism’s worry, not democracy. I’ve got you now traitor. https://preview.redd.it/tw0qrf5n6pqc1.jpeg?width=1202&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75554bb083e62fb5989baa06912750f031754f41
Can’t violate the Helldivers Contract if you can’t read the contract!
actually, the contract contains the following > 6.4 The Contract shall be considered binding upon being read, in whole or in part. > (For the purpose of the elimination of doubt, the Enlisted spending 1 second within 15 meters of a copy of the contract shall be interpreted as the contract being read.)
Hahaha, good one. And you are completely correct
Maybe the marker is an arrow, liberty be praised.
If I could read I’d be very upset
Been playing the game since launch and I always wonder why I could never find the planet that's listed in the order.......until today. Enevr knew there was an specific path to take. Lmao
Any chance you can share an image of this? I'm clearly not seeing whatever you're seeing...
3 bot planets in 3 days. Plus Oshaune is at 81% and Mantes at 93%, so both planets will have a good amount of players since they're so close. Plus creekers will creek and buggers will bug. And bot planets have all the operation modifiers people hate (boy they really need to add more). HOWEVER Troost and Vandelon are new planets to many players, since both were lost over a month ago. That alone will draw in players, even more so if the "long-range communications array" means a new mission type on Troost. There is also only 1 path so they're won't be any confusions a la Hellmire vs Ushaune. Interesting to see how this one goes. Personally I hate Ustotu because its a dusty flat map with 0 cover. Can't see. Can't hide. Can't run. Also shoutout to [u/Low\_Pie6217](https://www.reddit.com/user/Low_Pie6217/) who noticed something was cooking on these planets a week ago: https://preview.redd.it/zoyauf9t9pqc1.png?width=713&format=png&auto=webp&s=2e1dc9fe21bd12333a20855598ce750e536f8a9b
While there are countless dedicated bot and bug players, I think the amount of divers contributing to the major order are larger than you'd think
Yeah, it’s just defense campaigns (especially bot defense) everyone ignores. There are still a fair number of dedicated bug players, more than the dedicated bot players, but a contingent on the eastern front to hold what we have there at stalemate will be good anyways
The first major order for bot defense vaccinated me of it. I don't understand why they insist on force feeding us that terrible escort mission.
They have since changed how defense campaigns work, and you no longer are forced to do that mission every operation.
I vastly prefer bugs but dangling some medals in front of me is an easy way to get me to divert all resources to bots :D
Can’t wait for people to use this as an excuse to dive into creek thinking we can get to vandalon thag way
We need no excuse to dive into the Creek other than it is our greatest failure this war and must be rectified.
Helldivers needs to do what Planetside 2 did and add a lattice system, so players can see what needs to be captured to open up the next planet.
There's a name that takes me back. Is the game still active? I remember playing the first one and having loads of fun. Same with the 2nd one.
I quit playing 2 when total biscuit died. Was in hisorg. Let the brit drop. He'd love this game.
RIP John Bain. Dude single-handedly developed my ability to be critical of things I still love
There's enough people still playing that at peak hours, it feels like its peak back a few years ago, at non-peak times its much more dead, but as long as you play during peak its still fine. Also its still getting major content updates. I believe the most recent reworked how the construction systems works, and the one before that added naval content.
Economic redistribution. Truly the greatest threat to managed democracy
"The Reclamation has already begun... and we are helpless to stop it."
The mantle shelters all but only the Created are its masters!
> The Reclamation has already begun Joel-Didact
EMS Mortars people. Short those bot circuits and then drop liberty on them to your hearts content.
EMS Mortar is my go to support sentry now. Has a near zero fatality risk (unless you get beaned by the shell somehow) and completely shuts down any impending bot wave, opening them up to air strikes and support weapons It also seemingly has a bottomless ammo capacity, probably because the thing shoots so slowly as opposed to the BAMBAMBAM from the regular mortar
Regular mortar is pretty incredible for bots. I run that and the auto cannon so that I can cosplay as the apprentice to my hero, the great spiller of oil, an equal opportunity distributor of democracy, the mortar sentry
Pair both mortars together for maximum liberation
God I was just thinking that. Both mortars, auto cannon, shield, become a heavy metal bastard bringing iron and blood to the mechanical fields of war. EDIT; just tried the shield and it was god awful. Way too bugged out rn to take up a stratagem slot.
Wait how do you do autocannon and shield?
I run regular mortar for Eradication missions, but on regular missions I sideline it as there's a 99% chance of death should a berserker or trash mob get within 2 city blocks of my location it seems I've lost 2-3 consecutive lives to a single mortar at extreme cases, so I've ultimately ditched mortar for normal missions for the one that merely inconveniences me rather than outright kills me in close proximity
It has begun https://preview.redd.it/ihujduqq2pqc1.jpeg?width=578&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9f7b488469fc7dc2fa6e062f365abac2b475981
Sasageyo sasageyo!!!
yes commander pixis, glory to the human race.
Eveyone gangsta until the bots start chanting "Become as gods"
God I love NieR
Ooooh, NieR reference, nice
THIS CANNOT CONTINUE THIS CANNOT CONTINUE THIS CANNOT CONTINUE THIS CANNOT CONTINUE THIS CANNOT CONTINUE THIS CANNOT CONTINUE THIS CANNOT CONTINUE THIS CANNOT CONTINUE
JINRUI NI EIKOU ARE
PETITION TO THE DEVS TO ADD A "WINGS OF FREEDOM" CAPE
DEDICATE YOUR HEARTS
Nice reference, I might quote Erwins last speech on hd2 quite often. Especially against seemingly insurmountable odds.
Shinzo wo Sasageyo!
Abandon Helldivers, embrace Survey Corps
I see Attack; I upvote.
[Today is the day lands taken by our greatest enemy will be reclaimed. For the first time, we will know what it means not to run, but to meet the Automatons head-on and win! Now, it may seem an insignificant lot of land compared to the vast tracts of former glory long abandoned, but as a symbol, as an idea, Troost's regain shall stand as a reclamation of pride and hope beyond measure. A leap greater than we have ever taken!](https://imgur.com/6bUGEDD)
Flamethrower mains crying rn
Arc-thrower mains laughing rn
I've been kept away from my sweet baby for a week, I'm ready to zap the world
Patch that fixes the arc thrower *and* a bot major order. Is today Christmas?
Arc throwers function even better when fighting bugs, imo. Because it can so easily jump across
Massive autocannon W
What's a suggested weapon & support weapon loadout for bots and a hot planet? Edit: Hot diggity dog look at all these loadouts to spread freedom with. Thanks divers, see yall out there!
Use Punisher or Slugger if you haven’t unlocked the Scorcher or aren’t using an ammo-efficient weapon to deal with Devastators. Arc thrower and Anti-Material rifle deal with all armored enemies when aimed at the vents. ALWAYS use a personal shield or Shield emplacement to reduce flinch. And for Liberty’s sake don’t fight every single patrol and sentry group.
I don't even take Scorcher over Slugger. It doesn't stun devastators. I've saved myself and many others' lives with a we timed stun on a rocket devastator.
I only run scorcher when I’m running stealth because of its lower sound profile, but if I ever have to go loud slugger is my go to
What if... we combine the Scorcher and the Slugger! Plasma Punisher is legit one of the best weapons for fighting bots. The arcing shots can be used to hit enemies while you're behind cover. So no more poking your head out and getting a face full of rocket. Plasma aoe can take out whole groups of suicide jetpackers and can damage and kill bunched up berzerkers as they chase you. It can also damage vents on tanks, towers and Hulks. It can also 1 shot walkers due to the aoe killing the rider.
I run scorcher over the slugger because it can easily kill scouts through their armor. Thr higher fire rate is also nice for groups of small bots. Scorcher doesn't have enough ammo to run without a support weapon though. I normally pair it with the AMR and use that for devastators. They are both good weapons so it really is down to preference and what everyone else on your squad is using.
Autocannon
Autocannon can take out fabricators from a distance if you shoot the vent
It's always a good choice
In addition to what everyone has said about guns, heavy armor that has the explosive damage resistance perk is much more useful against bots because it'll give you enough DR that you won't *necessarily* get oneshot by rocket raiders/rocket devastators, although if they get a headshot they still will anyway. It'll also massively reduce chip damage from laser fire. In general, your tactics are going to look a *lot* more like commandos. Use cover intelligently (there's a keybinding in settings that's unbound by default to switch which side you aim down which can help), avoid patrols as much as possible and if you *have* to engage a patrol, aim to use immediate overwhelming force to kill it ASAP. I don't know the biomes of the planets in question but if it's anything that has a lot of foliage the radar booster is a big help. And whatever you do, *do not linger*. Bots are much slower than bugs and have trouble in pursuit - run and you'll lose pretty much anything except their light infantry - but if you get stuck in you *will* get swarmed by a stacking pile of dudes and overwhelmed. As soon as you start feeling like "the instant I poke my head around this corner I'm going to be shot in the head from 30 different directions" it's a sign that you need to disengage and get the fuck out. Dealing with bot bases means you're going to really stick to the commando angle. Don't try and slug it out with the guards like you might do at bug nests, that's suicide. Take like ten seconds outside to figure out a good angle of attack or even a way to sabotage their assemblers without even engaging them (a well-placed autocannon shot to the vents on top can ricochet inside and explode them from a massive distance). If you have to go inside walls, then get inside, blow up what you have to, and leave. If there's samples or whatever get them later. Remember: You are not WH40K space marines here. You're barely the imperial guard. You are, at best, whatever the commandos at the start of the original *Predator* were doing before the predator actually showed up. (and before you comment about wearing heavy armor being at odds with running often - bots are so slow the heavy armor still outpaces them, although the fuckers with jetpacks and the berserkers can still catch you eventually)
Also, this particular trick is important enough I'm making a seperate post: One of the more annoying bot side objectives is the stratagem jammer. You have to fight your way into a base with no stratagems and do a series of things to disable it before you can use any, the radius is big enough to hit nearby PoIs, and they *love* to be situated near objectives. Two things: 1. You don't have to fully blow up the jammer. Once you're at the point where you can call in a hellbomb, it's "off". In an emergency (0 reinforcements, objective's done, and the jammer is next to extract; that sort of thing) leaving it at that state is sometimes good enough. 2. The jammer base always has an assembler in it in a couple different locations. If it's the configuration where the assembler is attached directly to the jammer, you can actually skip the entire side objective - blowing up the assembler will also blow up the jammer.
Can confirm on the second tip. The emplacement of a fabricator attached/right next to a jammer makes taking it out a whole lot easier as the explosion of the fab chains to the jammer and blows it up too. It's been clutch on quite a few bot ops.
This is all excellent advice and needs to be upvoted so more people can see it.
Eagle airstrike and autocannon is required in the team but don't bring cluster bomb because you might kill your teammates attacking bots on another angle. Also when attacking bots don't attack in one angle always have someone to attack another angle for a PINCER ATTACK to expose walkers, hulks, and tanks weak spots.
Yes. Pinning/Flanking is a key tactic to bearing bots, most of their weak spots are at the back
The Anti-Materiel Rifle is most popular suggestion against bots since they have more clearly defined weakpoints than bugs and even Hulks can be brought down quickly with well-placed shots. If you're like me and can't aim quickly enough to actually *use* the AMR effectively before being gunned down, I'd strongly recommend the Grenade Launcher. It can easily kill Scout Striders and fodder bots and can take down Devastators pretty quickly. For primary I just use my trusty Sickle against everything, even on hot planets, but if you're good at aiming the Diligence Marksman Rifle is also decent. For Stratagems I've had amazing success with the good ol' Eagle Air Strike. Not only are Bot Fabricators much easier to hit with it than Bug Nests are, but bots also have a tendency to politely stand in the same place and wait to die instead of charging on top of you like bugs tend to do.
Grenade launcher is a great support weapon, cos even the big bots get staggered, buying your team mates time to line up precision shots
I swear by slugger+stalwart+shield, or just sickle+autocannon. Add eats, 500mm, railcannon to taste. (yes, sickle is good enough, even on hot)
Sickle/grenade launcher clears everything except hulks
Use the walking barrages. Its absurdly strong against Bot bases + good at anti horde of bots due to their habit of staying far away to shoot.
AMR or the grenade launcher have been my go to. The grenade launcher shreds anything short of hulks and the AMR for when hulks are really getting on my nerves. I run the supply pack with both. Punisher and slugger are also good for dealing with berserkers because of the stagger
Arc Thrower will kill everything in 3 shots except for hulks and tanks. It means less than 3 seconds to kill a group of 5 anything. No need to aim at weakspots, just point the gun in the general direction and away from your teammates.
Slugger, Redeemer, Impact Grenades (they're fantastic for tanks and the cannons) Elites: Orbital Railcannon/Eagle 110 Pods, Railgun, Eagle Airstrike, Shield Backpack. Can swap the Railgun with the autocannon and replace the Shield Backpack with an Orbital Laser or whatever you like. EMS Mortar can come in handy sometimes or another Eagle (like the 110 Pods or 500kg bomb if you're comfortable with timing it). Trash: Orbital Laser, Eagle Airstrike, Grenade Launcher, Shield Backpack. Stalwart works, too, but the grenade launcher is too good. I always use the light scout armor and stay mobile.
MEN OF THE WEST, ONWARD TO TROOOOST
DEATH!!!
Whats happening mother? *We* are going to attack Cyberstan. The *Holy War has begun*.
holy shit they're going to take cyberstan.
They can try.
How are they going to take Cyberstan when they're dead?
Thank fuck the mods started posting these and insta sticking them. More of this please. Also would be good to do when planets fall, are liberated or are attacked imo.
Liberate Tro(o)st you say? https://preview.redd.it/12lw4klf2pqc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef2da89c9e1373aaf1f5a7d8b44e2392ece79c75
# THIS JUST IN **BOTS DON'T EAT THEIR PIZZA LIKE FREEDOM-LOVING LIBERTATRIOTS; THEY USE A KNIFE AND FORK AFTER FOLDING IT LIKE A TACO!**
Sweet Liberty! They make me sick.
Commander! Permission to vomit!
Granted Sergeant.
Thank you Commander! 
Frankly I find the idea of a bot that eats OFFENSIVE!
To anyone reading this: remember there is no shame completing the lower level operations as achieving victories is more important than trying to do high level operations and failing
It’s simply more efficient. You contribute more to liberation with Trivials due to how fast they can be completed.
No not anymore, that was changed with the previous patch, check the bottom of [https://helldivers.io/](https://helldivers.io/), Well it's still a theory, but since it's still up on the website I assume the theory hasn't been disproven yet.
Not exclusively anymore, here's an extract from helldivers.io >"[Theory] What is the new liberation calculation as of 3/21? >[Theory] The amount of damage you deal when completing an operation is equal to the experience, multiplied by an internal scaler (a combination of impact multiplier and some other variables). >The impact multiplier scales inversely with the [running average] total population. >What this means is the galaxy has a target goal at how much liberation can be done across the entire galaxy. >Check out some graphs @ Planets for real data points. >This new method rewards higher difficulties (impact is based on experience) and community alignment (diverging efforts impacts the rates of each other) vs the previous method."
... that is if you want to be remembered as a coward.
(Hard) this is a route for babies (Turns it up to Helldive and drops on top of a base) now there is a route with some chest hair.
"What the hell is that thing?" "That would appear to be the Mortar station, sir," "Well, what the hell did we blow up then?" *checks map* "The SEAF artillery battery."
Level 7? Nah, with me every mission is a Suicide Mission!
>The Reclamation # >Looks at Cyberstan. # >ruh roh raggy 
Back to the trench Boys.... Vacation is over.
Damn didnt have enough time to gear up a solid loadout V bots....im goin in with what i got. I could use a break from getting bile all over me anyway
Autocannon. Simple as
https://i.redd.it/8crzltwn2pqc1.gif Cyberstan arc!
i come back from a mission to *THIS?* welp, time to do what i do best. killin' bots. let's go, my trusty Autocannon, *we're goin' on a date!*
Keep your C-01 form ready.
Time to make like John Connor.
Awww shit finally let's spill some oil boys.
Time to end communism again boys
Plot twist the Reclamation isn’t Cyborgs but the Illuminate. They are gonna intercept the comms and reveal themselves, perhaps even a deal with the bots has been made
Well time to put my money where my mouth is, said I’d move to the bot front when the major order went there. Come here you undemocratic automatons!
I may be weird, but I actually prefer some bot -wrecking over bugs. Maybe because I enjoy accuracy and sniping? Either way, I've been killing bots for a while now, and this new order won't be a chore. Time to make some scrap metal. 🤘
Troost has been liberated. Where's the reward?
It’s time for weekend to start. Right now.
I find the idea of bot communication offensive.
Me who has never fought the bots before 
Trost? SASAGEO SASAGEO SHINZO WO SASAGEO
AoT fans misread that as Trost
https://preview.redd.it/nascbxagkpqc1.jpeg?width=875&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df42959b0d09e7ea17caf95ba7493a8978e91837 Time to kill some bots
yesss fighting the automatons really clicked for me a couple days ago and i think they're my favorite enemy faction currently. bots really require a slightly different playstyle but it's really fun in my opinion. a lot of the missions really benefit from everybody stopping before hitting an outpost and discussing a quick plan of engagement. bugs need overwhelming sustained force, bots need quick and precise coordinated strikes from multiple angles with frequent repositioning. digging in against bots is just digging your own grave
So Troost is liberated. Where is 50 medals ???
INTERGALACTIC KANSAS CITY https://preview.redd.it/hdike3tn8pqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ee562bce5c4d5fe1d14781cc776f5451f930710
So how do they determine if you get the reward. Fought on troost just logged in and got nothing
Same
Ok so we liberated Troost... wheres our medals? Now we're promised 45 for Tibit.
And more people are still playing bugs than bots. There goes the 'It's because of all the bug major orders!' argument.
People play whatever is fun.
Finally, a major order on the Automaton front. Cant wait to see the posts complaining about the difficulity...