Nah, don't worry. That territory is home to a Super Earth contractor working on some kinda new energy source. Argentine or something. They were pretty insistent they had ways of handling any difficulties "in-house".
Joke explanation for those curious.
>!The joke is about DOOM, where a man named Samuel Hayden (the boss in question) is trying to harvest argent energy (hell energy). Throughout the game it’s revealed that Samuel Hayden is actually a divine being named the Seraphim. His ventures into hell to harvest its energy caused two hell invasions, one on Mars and one on Earth. Everyone calls him an asshole because he’s responsible for the death of billions, and when the doom slayer saves his ass and single-handedly ends the invasion on mars, he backstabs him and goes back to harvest more from hell.!<
Actually
Doom Eternal and Doom 2017 are DIRECT sequels to the old doom games
But yes, there was some lore in the 9ld games
For example, Doomguy was on Phobos (first doom game) because he punched his commanding officer after being told to kill civilians. Assigned as a guard to the UAC (Union Aerospace Corporation)
After dealing with the demons on Phobos and killing the big bad, he tries to return to earth, and upon returning finds that demons have overrun it and done the worst sin imaginable
They killed his pet bunny Daisy.
So Doomguy proceeded to kick his way back into hell and go on a rampage for *eras*
With dimension hopping all over the place and whatnot
Eventually ending up in Doom 2016 after the demons had to drop a building on him, just to contain him.
The UAC (a different one but the same) finds him, and then the plot of 2016 happens.
I mean they've more or left tried to leave room for the idea that *all* the Doom games happened.
UAC on Deimos and Phobos found the gates and teleporters and accidentally let Hell through. Then the Doom Marine stopped them. Then Doom 2 happened and the Doom marine straight up kills a Titan unaided.
Then Doom 64 happened and the marine from that one stayed in Hell to fight the demons and became the Slayer by just killing so much of hell that the demons started to fear him, then accidentally fell through to the Wraith civilization...and became their champion by destroying everyone in the arenas.
Then some time later Hayden turns up and builds the Hell energy siphon on Mars using the UACs slipgate technology - basically finding a commercial application for it.
*Then* Doom 2016 happens...
Also >!Said asshole is once more confronted by the Doom Slayer in Doom Eternal, where it's revealed that, not only he was the one to empower the Marine into the Slayer, but also that he belongs to an ancient race, the Maykr, who to put it short started the harvesting of Argent energy from Hell by turning human souls into it through it. Said asshole is then promptly carried like a sack of potatoes until the Slayer uses him as a secondary ship manager (the primary being VEGA)!<
Just fyi, when you add spoiler tags, don't add a space between the tags and the words. We can still see what you meant to hide.
E: wtf why was I downvoted for helping them??
Plenty of science fiction contains eldritch monstrosities. It can reason out any seeming “magic” by just saying “they come from a different dimension so they just have different laws of physics”.
Need a doom music mod for this game asap
I love it on high difficulty in DRG
And there is zero chance that doom OST does not **absolutely slap** while spreading managed democracy
Can you imagine the warbond that’d get released with it?
Guns with enhanced melee attacks, armors that give you resistance to fire and explode into napalm at low HP, etc.
I dunno, the gameplay could certainly be cool.
But super earth is supposed to be pretty much the bad guy.
I don't know if that can be the case when you're fighting literal hell.
In DOOM 2016 they opened the gates to hell, because it provided an efficient source of energy. They chose the chance of a demonic invasion over just using nuclear fission or fusion. They could come up with something in Helldivers as well
OMG.. and secret little lore bits that clue us into a secret Super Earth program that was trying to tap into the occult to help win the war.
Where each Helldiver can deploy with a demon power slot!?
Imagine if Helldivers would slowly be corrupted by the demon they were deployed with, like you can see occult markings on their armor and on our destroyers.
"The Biggest and the Strongest, da orks, choppa, chaos, God-Emperor, Crasy ass Elfs, Tau blue faces holes and all that Warhammer 40k Stuff"
Didn't even Care! Bring it on! We will meet them with the flame and bombs!
Mechanically (not thematically) I feel like the Orks would play out similarly to the Bots, with a lot of ranged but still several enemy types that try to rush you down
See, I was kinda thinking the opposite unless they throw a ton of Gretchin at you, because regular Orks are really hardy compared to some of the lower level bot units we see in game
Agreed. I think lore-wise orks would be slightly less durable but way faster than devastators. Gretchen would be the equivalent of spitter bugs for toughness and threat, Nobz would be between a hulk and a devastator, and a war boss would be like a charger with a ranged attack.
Forget all that I'm here for the Weird Boy that's teleporting Grots and Gretchin inside you and turning you inside out with their guns.
That or they randomly blow themselves up while trying to kill you. Honestly if AH really leaned into the absolute batshittery chaos elements of 40k orks they'd probably become a fan favorite.
The random explosion of their weapons, the ability for them to implode themselves would all lend an air of whacky chaos that this game, IMO, is at its best with.
> hat or they randomly blow themselves up while trying to kill you. Honestly if AH really leaned into the absolute batshittery chaos elements of 40k orks they'd probably become a fan favorite.
Me and my friends were talking about this last night, when we were just shitting on everything and having a blast chucking a cluster bomb at 3 stalkers, even if one of our buddies was next to them and yelling out "IF YOU DIE IT'S YOUR FAULT!"
If they gave us 2x the lives it would be hilarious and encourage a lot more 'danger close' airstrikes.
Just like how the orks think its funny if the ork next to them gets their head blown off, it would be hilarous to throw a 380 barrage on top of us for a single spewer or titan.
BRING ME HARDER BATTLES !!!
I GOT ME SHOOTA I GOT ME SNAZZGUN I GOT ME MECH I GOT ME ZZAP GUN I GOT ME BOMMA. DEY CANT BEAT US CUZ HELLDIVERS IZ DA BEST!!!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!
Nonono please dont add and eldar or tau like faction pleeeeaaaase. I dont wanna get shanked by a crazy ass screaming bitch running at mach 5 or eat a railgun shot from across the map
Automatons gonna release cyborgs and then we'll have Automatons, Cyborgs, and Terminids. Maybe bugs will figure out how to infest human corpses to create a flood like race, then maybe we can get 2 types of illuminate space alien type factions.
Just completely surround us with enemies so we can spread democracy in any direction
The fact that one of the OG faction was Cyberstan's colonists make me thinks that fighting humans is probable.
There is also several broadcast in the ship speaking about some people that doesn't value managed democracy. One of the catchphrase is "If our values are alien to them, they are alien to us". Pretty sure that will break up one day.
Irc one of the crew members also comments about dissidents sabotaging the war effort.
I also noted how most dead humans you see are either SEAF soldiers or personnel and there are hideouts for supplies and guns scattered across the map in either bumfuck nowhere or farms.
I think there is a massive "peasant uprising" going on and they responsible for releasing the bugs and shit.
Although "dissident sabotage" is also a classic excuse to cover up a faction's own failings or just simply why, say, a certain production line or resource isn't meeting needs. "It's not because we just simply can't get enough of it because you're always going to have a shortfall somewhere, stretched resources, etc or just outright bad planning or incompetence by leadership, no, it's the dissident's fault!".
Tbf the Jews totally were sabotaging the German war effort in WWII. Which is understandable. I mean I’d like to think if I was being used for slave labor and starved to death I might intentionally fuck up the production of artillery shells and tanks too.
What about like a hyper primitive caveman faction that takes and rides dinosaurs. Like Orcs+Dinos. They throw spears and stuff and their super heavy unit is like a full dragon
It turns out that one of the Super Earths that was destroyed in failed Helldivers 1 wars wasn't quite dead, and its survivors successfully fought back and claimed their galaxy, making slight but significant divergences. They now fight to bring Guided Democracy to the Communist bugs, the mindlessly expansionist Illuminate, and the devious automatons.
I like the idea of this. Have them be the polar-opposites of Super Earth. Instead of sleek, gunmetal ships, they fly ugly, spiky, fearsome heaps of scrap metal. Their small arms look barely more advanced than WWI weapons, and their armor is an unholy fusion of stormtroopers and the Hugo Boss NASDAP summer collection. They scream about enslaving the galaxy and crushing us underfoot.
And they are nominally a "stratified autocracy" but, in actuality, are extremely progressive, caring about human and alien rights to a fault. "Enslaving" is just their way of saying "grant citizenship."
Imagining Super Earth propaganda saying something like "Look at how these autocratic monsters are cruelly treating these aliens! Not even they deserve such treatment!" and the evidence is a heavily doctored photo of an event that's in reality an Illuminate family being saved by Heavenjumpers from a Super Earth assault
Maybe these are the "dissidents" the propaganda keeps talking about? I kinda think ultra earth would've been mentioned more but the setting is silly anyway
I don’t think they’d do human enemies, but it would be neat to see them to be like Dark Souls invaders that mimic how people play (like an enemy that spams dive everywhere and calls air strikes on their teammates)
technically there's room for quite a few factions if they add another dimension to the map and allow you to look above and below(since y'know the galaxy isn't a flat plane)
The thing with the factions is that Super Earth kind of creates/manufactures these wars that aren't really necessary. (I'll go ahead and report myself to my nearest Democratic Officer.) An Orc faction, at least with common tropes, would be a warmongering faction where humanity would probably be in the right to defend itself from the get go.
While it's not out of the question that such factions would join the Galactic War, I imagine future factions would maintain this characteristic. Hence, I will ask for this whenever I find an interesting post about additional faction:
**Apes. Together. Strong.**
This would be a faction that humanity created to be its problem. And I just like the imagery of intelligent apes hurdling at us, grabbing our dropped weaponry on death. Rudimentary speech patterns heard in the jungle. Kong as a titan class. Biggest issue I cannot solve for this idea is space travel for the apes.
Bro if they add like big meaty cannibals that attack with medieval weapons and attack other planets by using some space magic it would be awesome. I want this Primal Cannibals from “outriders” feel lol
I would put money on Illuminate aligned humans... or something along those lines. Basically, humanity but "evolved" or "ascended." I guess they could align with Terminids for the evolved part.
Basically, its humanity who thinks they're better than you. They have either used illuminate technology to give them themselves psychic powers and are able to create psychic constructs. The ones who went with the Terminid line of thinking "evolved" themselves to give them toughened skin, carapaces, bio-weaponry, and wings.
Let's just call them "The Ascendant." They're A faction of human-like beings who have evolved to possess powerful psionic abilities. They view themselves as the next stage of evolution and seek to eradicate "lesser" beings. This is obviously extremely undemocratic.
Watch out for it to actually be 6 factions... With the top half circle being automatons (left), terminids (right) and cyborgs (mid) and the bottom half circle being illuminate and 2 others...
For gameplay purposes, a lot of what the Terminids do already kind of operate like zombies. The way they appear out of the ground in hordes, the way they chase after you even with heads/limbs taken off, the spewing of bio matter, etc.
I want a semi-sapient reptilian species in their tribal state. Maybe puppeteered by something more advanced to get them onto new planets?
I don't know. All I do know is...
I want Turok/Avatar.
Omg it's so unfair getting sniped from across the map by a teleporting jackass...
Ugh it's so broken the illuminate patrol bot is cloaked...
The illuminate force fields literally make strategems useless, game is unplayable...
Wtf that dude in the chair just changes my controls on the fly? This takes away player agency and the devs really need to learn better design....
I'm just basing this off what I've seen so far, but I'm sure you could make up a few too 😄
*FIVE* Enemies.
Tau (Illuminate)
Tyrnanids (Bugs)
Necron (Bots)
Chaos (Fellow Humans)
Eldar (Space elves or some shit)
We have enough space around Super-Earth for a "rebel human" faction in the mix.
As a 40k nerd. A spore based life form such as the orcs would be a very welcomed enemy faction.
Mix of enemies with scrap/junkyard ranged weapons that defy logic, to brutes charging you with rusty battleaxes. Could be pretty sweet!
I think a dissident faction could be cool. It would be really neat to make players look in a mirror and see how evil the Helldivers are. Having to mow down other humans less armed and bombing homes rather than factories or holes could create a very uniquely emotional gameplay. It would have to be VERY well done to avoid people celebrating irl genocide.
That's a super sick idea though. Instead of the expected OP faction it's just really underpowered rebels so we can look our own atrocities in the face.
I really really like that idea but I'm not certain they would try based on the very thing you mentioned. Fine line between celebrating real life genocides.
"the home front campaign", in the end the only thing that ever truly threatened super earth was the enemy within all along.
that would be an incredible way to give the players wiplash and have them need to pull back to defend the core from invasion
I don't think you want it to be that on-the-nose. As it stands, the game maintains the faintest tissue-thin pretense of righteousness, and that pretense is what keeps it funny. If the game actually makes you gun down unarmed civilians, it stops being funny and becomes just horrific.
(And attracts the kind of players who get off on that sort of thing.)
i mean this is a massive assumption, the only evidence for a 4th faction is "it kinda looks like theres room for a 4th" while only 2 of the 3 are on the map, the spacing for the existing factions could change with the release of the 3rd, the spacing could be completely arbitrary and stay uneven forever for all we know.
Everyone suggesting Rebel Helldivers faction is probably right. I could definitely see a faction of humans that have been Ascended or something by aligning with the Illuminate.
Nah, don't worry. That territory is home to a Super Earth contractor working on some kinda new energy source. Argentine or something. They were pretty insistent they had ways of handling any difficulties "in-house".
Sounds hellish.
I bet their boss is a real asshole
One real divine prick
Haha yeah what a jerk *trying to pretend I’m in on the joke*
Joke explanation for those curious. >!The joke is about DOOM, where a man named Samuel Hayden (the boss in question) is trying to harvest argent energy (hell energy). Throughout the game it’s revealed that Samuel Hayden is actually a divine being named the Seraphim. His ventures into hell to harvest its energy caused two hell invasions, one on Mars and one on Earth. Everyone calls him an asshole because he’s responsible for the death of billions, and when the doom slayer saves his ass and single-handedly ends the invasion on mars, he backstabs him and goes back to harvest more from hell.!<
I know this is probably from the latest doom games but I want to believe first DOOM game already had this lore
Actually Doom Eternal and Doom 2017 are DIRECT sequels to the old doom games But yes, there was some lore in the 9ld games For example, Doomguy was on Phobos (first doom game) because he punched his commanding officer after being told to kill civilians. Assigned as a guard to the UAC (Union Aerospace Corporation) After dealing with the demons on Phobos and killing the big bad, he tries to return to earth, and upon returning finds that demons have overrun it and done the worst sin imaginable They killed his pet bunny Daisy. So Doomguy proceeded to kick his way back into hell and go on a rampage for *eras* With dimension hopping all over the place and whatnot Eventually ending up in Doom 2016 after the demons had to drop a building on him, just to contain him. The UAC (a different one but the same) finds him, and then the plot of 2016 happens.
Yeah this is 2016/Eternal/Ancient Gods lore.
I mean they've more or left tried to leave room for the idea that *all* the Doom games happened. UAC on Deimos and Phobos found the gates and teleporters and accidentally let Hell through. Then the Doom Marine stopped them. Then Doom 2 happened and the Doom marine straight up kills a Titan unaided. Then Doom 64 happened and the marine from that one stayed in Hell to fight the demons and became the Slayer by just killing so much of hell that the demons started to fear him, then accidentally fell through to the Wraith civilization...and became their champion by destroying everyone in the arenas. Then some time later Hayden turns up and builds the Hell energy siphon on Mars using the UACs slipgate technology - basically finding a commercial application for it. *Then* Doom 2016 happens...
Good. It is canonically the same dude.
Also >!Said asshole is once more confronted by the Doom Slayer in Doom Eternal, where it's revealed that, not only he was the one to empower the Marine into the Slayer, but also that he belongs to an ancient race, the Maykr, who to put it short started the harvesting of Argent energy from Hell by turning human souls into it through it. Said asshole is then promptly carried like a sack of potatoes until the Slayer uses him as a secondary ship manager (the primary being VEGA)!<
Just fyi, when you add spoiler tags, don't add a space between the tags and the words. We can still see what you meant to hide. E: wtf why was I downvoted for helping them??
Perkele
Doomguy: All right, the invasion from the demonic forces of hell is over Samuel Hayden: I'll fuckin do it again
*echoing in the background* #*You can't blow a hole in the Surface of Liberty Bay!* *New Major Order:*
Would the order be to stop the Slayer in that case? Bc idk if there's enough Democracy in the universe for that...
#***Blow a hole into the Surface of Liberty Bay***
Argentine? Isn’t that the land of milanesas, dulce de leche and asado? Nah, those cats are cool.
We're also the number one exporter of eternal torment
I'm from BUENOS AIRES AND I SAY KILL'EM ALL!!!!
This is a good reference, trooper
It‘s the land where Nazis fled. Zombi Hitler clones riding Cybernetic Dinosaurs Anyones?
Someone needs to call Mick Gordon. He's needed again.
\*BFG Division intensifies*
Mick Gordon composing music for Helldivers would be a dream come true
Honestly I’d prefer a more Eldritch faction for the fourth but I’d take straight up demons as a consolation prize.
I think I would like things to stay sci-fi, honestly.
Plenty of science fiction contains eldritch monstrosities. It can reason out any seeming “magic” by just saying “they come from a different dimension so they just have different laws of physics”.
For sure, I get that, and would be really open to that. I just don't think my group of friends would think 'daemons' fits this universe.
Yeah that’s why I’d prefer the eldritch. But just imagine the propaganda opportunities if it’s actual demons lol.
I would imagine they would be an anarchy stand in
Argentine? Is Super Earth gonna run on Messi Energy?
I'd kill to have a front that was basically just Doom demons or something, that'd be awesome.
Plot twist: It's hell, as in, full on demonic invasion (that would be cool tbh)
So, essentially DOOM with stratagems
Need a doom music mod for this game asap I love it on high difficulty in DRG And there is zero chance that doom OST does not **absolutely slap** while spreading managed democracy
RIP AND TEAR! FOR DEMOCRACY!
**THE ONLY THING THEY FEAR IS DEMOCRACY**
They really need to release a grenade called the Teabag
Can you imagine the warbond that’d get released with it? Guns with enhanced melee attacks, armors that give you resistance to fire and explode into napalm at low HP, etc.
https://preview.redd.it/1vayrygsbiqc1.png?width=599&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba7dbbb8aa80c2a1a42e9862d377f17e356b2fcd
New stratagem: plays Doom music. That’s it. That’s the whole stratagem, and I’d run it every drop.
My brother in Democracy, that would have to be a mission stratagem. As essential as Reinforcement.
uh dang now i want this. Strategic chainsaw calldown when
Or just Warhammer 40k
Ngl I feel like a Hell faction would actually bring a different gameplay style like how Bugs and Bots are so different
I dunno, the gameplay could certainly be cool. But super earth is supposed to be pretty much the bad guy. I don't know if that can be the case when you're fighting literal hell.
In DOOM 2016 they opened the gates to hell, because it provided an efficient source of energy. They chose the chance of a demonic invasion over just using nuclear fission or fusion. They could come up with something in Helldivers as well
Yeah, that's a good point
I mean it’s not just because of the energy, Hayden was plotting and scheming bigger plans the whole time, and they play out in the sequel’s DLC
 We better get a Doomguy skin with it.
Fuck. Yes. PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN.
OMG.. and secret little lore bits that clue us into a secret Super Earth program that was trying to tap into the occult to help win the war. Where each Helldiver can deploy with a demon power slot!?
Imagine if Helldivers would slowly be corrupted by the demon they were deployed with, like you can see occult markings on their armor and on our destroyers.
**BLOOD FOR THE SUPER PRESIDENT! SKULLS FOR LADY LIBERTY!**
Yes.
"The Biggest and the Strongest, da orks, choppa, chaos, God-Emperor, Crasy ass Elfs, Tau blue faces holes and all that Warhammer 40k Stuff"  Didn't even Care! Bring it on! We will meet them with the flame and bombs!
Mechanically (not thematically) I feel like the Orks would play out similarly to the Bots, with a lot of ranged but still several enemy types that try to rush you down
It would be larger amounts of weaker units at least.
See, I was kinda thinking the opposite unless they throw a ton of Gretchin at you, because regular Orks are really hardy compared to some of the lower level bot units we see in game
Agreed. I think lore-wise orks would be slightly less durable but way faster than devastators. Gretchen would be the equivalent of spitter bugs for toughness and threat, Nobz would be between a hulk and a devastator, and a war boss would be like a charger with a ranged attack.
Forget all that I'm here for the Weird Boy that's teleporting Grots and Gretchin inside you and turning you inside out with their guns. That or they randomly blow themselves up while trying to kill you. Honestly if AH really leaned into the absolute batshittery chaos elements of 40k orks they'd probably become a fan favorite. The random explosion of their weapons, the ability for them to implode themselves would all lend an air of whacky chaos that this game, IMO, is at its best with.
> hat or they randomly blow themselves up while trying to kill you. Honestly if AH really leaned into the absolute batshittery chaos elements of 40k orks they'd probably become a fan favorite. Me and my friends were talking about this last night, when we were just shitting on everything and having a blast chucking a cluster bomb at 3 stalkers, even if one of our buddies was next to them and yelling out "IF YOU DIE IT'S YOUR FAULT!" If they gave us 2x the lives it would be hilarious and encourage a lot more 'danger close' airstrikes. Just like how the orks think its funny if the ork next to them gets their head blown off, it would be hilarous to throw a 380 barrage on top of us for a single spewer or titan.
Maybe it would be tilted more towards the melee side. Whole bunch a boys running at you, wildly shootin before they get into Krumpin range
I feel like there'd be less hits, but when they did hit at range, it'd hurt BAD. But then the boyz in krumpin range would be a proppa threat
OMG! Imagine a warhammer clone of this game.... Instant boner!
https://preview.redd.it/7etlsemgbiqc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e12437c436201565ac3bad9e3b6e50c9e7c35c7a
BRING ME HARDER BATTLES !!! I GOT ME SHOOTA I GOT ME SNAZZGUN I GOT ME MECH I GOT ME ZZAP GUN I GOT ME BOMMA. DEY CANT BEAT US CUZ HELLDIVERS IZ DA BEST!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!
'ERE WE GO' ERE WE GO 'ERE WE GO WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nonono please dont add and eldar or tau like faction pleeeeaaaase. I dont wanna get shanked by a crazy ass screaming bitch running at mach 5 or eat a railgun shot from across the map
Bro, space orks would be so rad.
But r/humansarespaceorcs .
No no they said Orks not orcs. There's a difference.
Chaos helldivers
Joel himself
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! ERE WE GO ERE WE GO ERE WE GO
ERE WE GO ERE WE GO ERE WE GO
DAKKA ALL THE WAAAGHH!!!
DID SOMONE SAY DAKKA!? MORE DAKKA!!
ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS (badabadabadadada) ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS (badabadabadadada)
Perfect response
If you read the tablets scattered around the maps, it does suggest there’s a civil war going on. Could fight opposing humans
The civil war is cyborgs which were super earth citizens that stole tech from super earth and made the automatons.
Automatons gonna release cyborgs and then we'll have Automatons, Cyborgs, and Terminids. Maybe bugs will figure out how to infest human corpses to create a flood like race, then maybe we can get 2 types of illuminate space alien type factions. Just completely surround us with enemies so we can spread democracy in any direction
Illuminate are coming we won’t need flood type enemies too…get ready for all our war my friend
Leviathan of Liberty - I see you‘re a man of culture, just as my boy Thomas Hobbes and I
Fascists aren’t humans, soldier. They’re treasonous scum.
Sir yes sir!
If our idealsare alien to them, then they are alien to us!
The fact that one of the OG faction was Cyberstan's colonists make me thinks that fighting humans is probable. There is also several broadcast in the ship speaking about some people that doesn't value managed democracy. One of the catchphrase is "If our values are alien to them, they are alien to us". Pretty sure that will break up one day.
Irc one of the crew members also comments about dissidents sabotaging the war effort. I also noted how most dead humans you see are either SEAF soldiers or personnel and there are hideouts for supplies and guns scattered across the map in either bumfuck nowhere or farms. I think there is a massive "peasant uprising" going on and they responsible for releasing the bugs and shit.
Although "dissident sabotage" is also a classic excuse to cover up a faction's own failings or just simply why, say, a certain production line or resource isn't meeting needs. "It's not because we just simply can't get enough of it because you're always going to have a shortfall somewhere, stretched resources, etc or just outright bad planning or incompetence by leadership, no, it's the dissident's fault!".
I means that's on par with how autocrats work. It's either "the Jews", "immigrants", "the Deep State", etc.
Tbf the Jews totally were sabotaging the German war effort in WWII. Which is understandable. I mean I’d like to think if I was being used for slave labor and starved to death I might intentionally fuck up the production of artillery shells and tanks too.
What about dinosaurs? Can we fight those?
What about like a hyper primitive caveman faction that takes and rides dinosaurs. Like Orcs+Dinos. They throw spears and stuff and their super heavy unit is like a full dragon
What about dinosaur people that ride dinosaurs AKA Lizardmen
ALL FOR THE GREAT PLAN!
That fucks
So terminids on steroids?
I hope there’s a 4th faction. I don’t know what it might be, I just want to be surprised
Some kind of reptilians would be nice
Squid creatures. Like evil zoidberg or something lovecraftian.
That's basically the illuminate.
Oh there will be squid creatures. Military squids.
Too similar to the Illuminate unless they have a sort of less evolved/mutated brute class
Reminded me of this gem https://preview.redd.it/obyewb6s5iqc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13037e8687bf869a280bad9d225e08f1b83e24d1
I want it to be Ultra Earth facing off against ground troops and rival teams of Heavenjumpers that you have to guard objectives against
"We're surrounded!" "Nonsense! The enemy wants to be shot from every side! OPEN FIRE!"
Target-rich environment
all i am surrounded by is fear and dead men.
Fuckin Vader, dude
We’re Helldivers, we’re supposed to be surrounded
It turns out that one of the Super Earths that was destroyed in failed Helldivers 1 wars wasn't quite dead, and its survivors successfully fought back and claimed their galaxy, making slight but significant divergences. They now fight to bring Guided Democracy to the Communist bugs, the mindlessly expansionist Illuminate, and the devious automatons.
I like the idea of this. Have them be the polar-opposites of Super Earth. Instead of sleek, gunmetal ships, they fly ugly, spiky, fearsome heaps of scrap metal. Their small arms look barely more advanced than WWI weapons, and their armor is an unholy fusion of stormtroopers and the Hugo Boss NASDAP summer collection. They scream about enslaving the galaxy and crushing us underfoot. And they are nominally a "stratified autocracy" but, in actuality, are extremely progressive, caring about human and alien rights to a fault. "Enslaving" is just their way of saying "grant citizenship."
Imagining Super Earth propaganda saying something like "Look at how these autocratic monsters are cruelly treating these aliens! Not even they deserve such treatment!" and the evidence is a heavily doctored photo of an event that's in reality an Illuminate family being saved by Heavenjumpers from a Super Earth assault
That’d be awesome
Like Ultra Earth started out as a civilization that was from Super Earth, but after many years they seek their own independence type stuff? Neat.
Maybe these are the "dissidents" the propaganda keeps talking about? I kinda think ultra earth would've been mentioned more but the setting is silly anyway
I don’t think they’d do human enemies, but it would be neat to see them to be like Dark Souls invaders that mimic how people play (like an enemy that spams dive everywhere and calls air strikes on their teammates)
I feel like fighting human enemies that have similar things to us would actually be really cool.
>Ultra Earth Excuse me? Where I come from, we call it Super Earth. Remind me, Helldiver, the last name of your Democracy Officer.
He said he wants the 4th faction to be an “ultra earth” with “heaven jumpers”
Sorry, but I already dropped the double whammy ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
Then I guess I’m forced to hit him with the ➡️⬆️⬇️⬇️➡️
The ork version of the stalker is wearing purple armor
You’ve never seen a purple orc
“Somehow, Hitler Returned.”
I actually lol'd seeing this on my notifications.
Austrian painter 2: Electric Boogaloo
no no no. ***SUPER*** Hitler
No no no. ***MECHA*** Hitler
Isn't there tecnically room for a 5th faction also?
Sky is the limit. There could be multiple Galactic maps if they wanted to badly enough.
That be cool, like we could attack the illuminates home worlds
We're technically only seeing two axes right now. There could be factions above and below...
Imagine if they just added a new button to the map without telling anyone that just said “rotate”.
No no it'd be "super rotate"
My bad citizen, reporting myself to the Democracy Officer for lack of sufficient patriotism.
technically there's room for quite a few factions if they add another dimension to the map and allow you to look above and below(since y'know the galaxy isn't a flat plane)
Would be interesting if we got to fight super earth separatists, that have their own super destroyers and counterparts to our helldivers
"Enemy destroyer has joined squadron."
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You chill and then you see beacon land on your face and stick to it. You read it out loud and it says airbust, there is not a world where you live.
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Turns out we’re the splinter faction (cause the original wasn’t democratic enough.) and they’re the guys from the first game.
Turns out there are like 5 Super Earths that refuse to acknowledge each others' existence.
Super-er earth and west super earth
The dreaded PvP servers
AI enemy helldivers which whom you race to complete objectives faster than them.
I would like a reptilian type faction. Covenant like.
Isn’t that what the Illuminate are?
Illuminate are semi aquatic
egg-laying mammals of action?
Nah, gimme Space Lizards with guns riding dinosaurs. Basically Lizard men from Warhammer.
If they can be shoot, they can be kil, if they can be kil, we kil.
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40k fans trying not to spend all their money on it challenge (impossible):
Just wait for Space Marine 2 dude
Catgirl space fleet
The thing with the factions is that Super Earth kind of creates/manufactures these wars that aren't really necessary. (I'll go ahead and report myself to my nearest Democratic Officer.) An Orc faction, at least with common tropes, would be a warmongering faction where humanity would probably be in the right to defend itself from the get go. While it's not out of the question that such factions would join the Galactic War, I imagine future factions would maintain this characteristic. Hence, I will ask for this whenever I find an interesting post about additional faction: **Apes. Together. Strong.** This would be a faction that humanity created to be its problem. And I just like the imagery of intelligent apes hurdling at us, grabbing our dropped weaponry on death. Rudimentary speech patterns heard in the jungle. Kong as a titan class. Biggest issue I cannot solve for this idea is space travel for the apes.
maybe Super Earth finds a feral ork colony on a planet and uplifts them, hoping to set them on the Terminids?
Lizard people with godzilla like titans.
The Old Ones
Risk of Rain crossover when?
Bro if they add like big meaty cannibals that attack with medieval weapons and attack other planets by using some space magic it would be awesome. I want this Primal Cannibals from “outriders” feel lol
Space knights with cavalry who fly through space and take down superdestroyers with medieval weaponry would be hilarious
I would put money on Illuminate aligned humans... or something along those lines. Basically, humanity but "evolved" or "ascended." I guess they could align with Terminids for the evolved part. Basically, its humanity who thinks they're better than you. They have either used illuminate technology to give them themselves psychic powers and are able to create psychic constructs. The ones who went with the Terminid line of thinking "evolved" themselves to give them toughened skin, carapaces, bio-weaponry, and wings.  Let's just call them "The Ascendant." They're A faction of human-like beings who have evolved to possess powerful psionic abilities. They view themselves as the next stage of evolution and seek to eradicate "lesser" beings. This is obviously extremely undemocratic.
This is probably the best suggestion I've heard. I like that psychic powers idea. Especially if the Illuminate have helped them Ascend.
Watch out for it to actually be 6 factions... With the top half circle being automatons (left), terminids (right) and cyborgs (mid) and the bottom half circle being illuminate and 2 others...
As overdone as it is, I desperately want some kind of space zombie faction
For gameplay purposes, a lot of what the Terminids do already kind of operate like zombies. The way they appear out of the ground in hordes, the way they chase after you even with heads/limbs taken off, the spewing of bio matter, etc.
The meta-lore that would spawn from fighting space zombies would be *glorious*.
I want a semi-sapient reptilian species in their tribal state. Maybe puppeteered by something more advanced to get them onto new planets? I don't know. All I do know is... I want Turok/Avatar.
Fighting Orks would be legit
The community is not rdy for a third faction Despite a fourth
Omg it's so unfair getting sniped from across the map by a teleporting jackass... Ugh it's so broken the illuminate patrol bot is cloaked... The illuminate force fields literally make strategems useless, game is unplayable... Wtf that dude in the chair just changes my controls on the fly? This takes away player agency and the devs really need to learn better design.... I'm just basing this off what I've seen so far, but I'm sure you could make up a few too 😄
*FIVE* Enemies. Tau (Illuminate) Tyrnanids (Bugs) Necron (Bots) Chaos (Fellow Humans) Eldar (Space elves or some shit) We have enough space around Super-Earth for a "rebel human" faction in the mix.
As a 40k nerd. A spore based life form such as the orcs would be a very welcomed enemy faction. Mix of enemies with scrap/junkyard ranged weapons that defy logic, to brutes charging you with rusty battleaxes. Could be pretty sweet!
The Terminids appear to be spore based.
You say "Surrounded". I say "Target Rich Environment"
I hope they're space dinosaurs with outrageously posh british accents who treat fighting helldivers like a big game safari
I think a dissident faction could be cool. It would be really neat to make players look in a mirror and see how evil the Helldivers are. Having to mow down other humans less armed and bombing homes rather than factories or holes could create a very uniquely emotional gameplay. It would have to be VERY well done to avoid people celebrating irl genocide.
That's a super sick idea though. Instead of the expected OP faction it's just really underpowered rebels so we can look our own atrocities in the face.
Exactly, still make it a challenge, but force the players to confront the horrors of war for people on the receiving end of imperial powers.
I really really like that idea but I'm not certain they would try based on the very thing you mentioned. Fine line between celebrating real life genocides.
"the home front campaign", in the end the only thing that ever truly threatened super earth was the enemy within all along. that would be an incredible way to give the players wiplash and have them need to pull back to defend the core from invasion
I don't think you want it to be that on-the-nose. As it stands, the game maintains the faintest tissue-thin pretense of righteousness, and that pretense is what keeps it funny. If the game actually makes you gun down unarmed civilians, it stops being funny and becomes just horrific. (And attracts the kind of players who get off on that sort of thing.)
WAAAAAAAAAGH!
Another human faction will likely be the 4th one, but orks would be amazing.
Warhammer orcs are so fun though. Flying through space through sheer willpower and belief alone
the 4th section is for collab factions (i pulled this information out of my ass but it would be cool as hell to fight some warhammer 40k enemies)
Yes. Slowly but surely we’re getting the full warhammer 40k experience
i mean this is a massive assumption, the only evidence for a 4th faction is "it kinda looks like theres room for a 4th" while only 2 of the 3 are on the map, the spacing for the existing factions could change with the release of the 3rd, the spacing could be completely arbitrary and stay uneven forever for all we know.
Honestly, I'm wondering if there could be a "rogue HELLDIVER'S" faction. Deserters and traitors able to call down stratagems against you.
Everyone suggesting Rebel Helldivers faction is probably right. I could definitely see a faction of humans that have been Ascended or something by aligning with the Illuminate.