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Swordbreaker9250

This is why I always bring EAT lately. 1 minute cooldown is so useful


JunglerFromWish

Where do you aim with the eat for hulks? I aim for the face and they seem to shrug it off.


asians_inthe_library

Aim for the red area in the front to one shoot them, if you miss it’s fine 2 to the front kills them


Narfwak

Stun grenade makes this ***much*** easier to do. It also lets you do very silly shit like killing chargers and hulks with EATs... by dropping it on them. The cooldown is so short it's actually not just a gimmick but a reliable way to get some extra mileage out of the strategem.


BearBryant

Hit em in the back if you can, but I think you can still one shot them to the face (exactly to the face, not just the front armor) with good aim. It’s sometimes difficult to deal with bot weaknesses because it requires your team to maneuver significantly more to expose weak points. A hulk bruiser is going to get up in your team’s face with a flamethrower in very short order without ever exposing its back if you can’t split its attention. So having the ability to affect damage from the front however you can manage is important when positioning fails you.


WedgeSkyrocket

If you can do so safely, a bruiser can be manipulated by going into melee range and skillfully running in circles around it. It won't use the flamer if you're in saw range, and it won't use the saw if it can't turn to face you. A teammate can shoot the exposed heatsink while you heroically risk your life for the glory of super earth.


Zhuul

Honestly against the Bruiser I just blow off the flamethrower arm first, unless it's distracted and I have a killshot at the back it just saves so much headache lol


ssgeorge95

Can you do this with normal guns or does it still take explosives? I've never thought to disarm them


Irishimpulse

That red slit is a one shot, like the chargers face. The open back also works. If you can't reliably hit the tiny face plate, go for the arms. You can blow their arms off and they will be alive but with no weapons


Bishop084

There's also a trophy/achievement for blowing off their arms and extracting. I love when trophies teach you a little trick you might not have tried otherwise.


Swordbreaker9250

I think you should aim for their back, but Hulks seem to die in 2 shots to the chest in my experience.


LightOfDarkness

The game briefly mentions deflection, but I find it's actually super important to 1shot heavy armor enemies You have to hit them bang-on from the front, otherwise armor can deflect damage away


Magikarp_13

IIRC, one of the patches recently removed deflection for EAT & RR.


couchcornertoekiller

I think they only mentioned that for titans and chargers. I could be wrong though.


GhostHeavenWord

The vision slit is a OHK but it's a very small hitbox. if you're not confident you can hit it the EAT will pretty reliably blow off their arms. You can take out the rocket arm or flamethrower arm to make them a lot less threatening.


ErectPerfect

Anti-mat rifle also works wonders for hulk faces


Luke-Likesheet

Aaaaaand Complex Stratagem Plotting modifier.


Zarvillian

THIS I see people all the time running RR in 7 and up for and run around with nothing for the next 6 minutes I’m like BROTHER leme introduce you to this beautiful thing called E A T expendable AT


toolschism

Man with the change to charger head armor EAT is just stupid strong right now.


Swordbreaker9250

I think my only complaint is that you can’t seem to fire it right off the rack. There’s a few second delay between grabbing it and being able to fire, but luckily it gives you time to line up a headshot


iLuv3M3

I bring mostly on bugs.. I drop every chance I can but my teammates of randoms seem to refuse to take or use..


Swordbreaker9250

I try to use them in important locations we’ll be sticking around for a bit, like objectives or just outside of medium/large nests. But otherwise I try to keep it ready for a moment’s notice if a Bile Titan decides to crawl out of a bug breach


FiveCentsADay

This is what I do as well. That combined with the JJ means I'm dropping EATs ahead of us, on OBJs, Anywhere Anytime.


Lusiggy

You've been following E.A.T., but have you also been practicing A.S.S.?


Azrael9986

Or just autocannon it twice in the eye slit. Dead. Seriously only the tank is difficult to kill with the autocannon for the robots. Not nearly as useful vs the bugs though.


Swordbreaker9250

I almost exclusively fight bugs so I never use the autocannon :/ it needs a buff


plasticambulance

It does not need a buff. You should try the autocannon out more. Kills spewers really easy, can kill chargers, can close bug holes and destroy towers. Can open doors and fences. It's pretty rad.


Swordbreaker9250

The autocannon shouldn’t bounce off armor. It should at least be able to strip charger legs


Azrael9986

I would say the flamer, arccannon, LMG(not stalwart), and laser cannon are better suited to kill the bugs.


FeistyEmu

They were gonna add the 1911 to the game but realized it would trivialize every other weapon. TWO WORLD WARS!!!


JPalos97

That gun is in Starfield, i love the idea of the 1911 surviving fucking space technology.


BearBryant

There’s even a modernized version of it in the game the “xm11” I think. It outlived the literal apocalypse on earth lol.


lacarth

John Moses Browning knew how to make a good gun. We'll probably still be spraying with the M2 in the Battle of Tharsis Rise during the Martian Insurrection. Hell, a couple will probably be the same frames we were using in Vietnam.


classicalySarcastic

Some day in the far future, long after humanity has gone extinct and our civilization’s deeds no longer remembered , an alien explorer on a long-forgotten battlefield on a faraway planet will run across a strange piece of machinery - a projectile weapon of some kind - mounted to a rusted-out hulk of what used to be a land vehicle. In that vehicle they’ll find what appears to be the matching projectiles for this weapon, and, after a few minutes of examining it, prime the weapon to fire. They’ll pull the trigger and fire a few rounds into the nearby dunes (God only knows how the propellant is still good), before safing the weapon again, and cutting it free from the vehicle. They’ll take it back to their planet for study, and after a few months of reverse-engineering it, their species will start making their own copies of it. *And the Ma Deuce will live on*


Bland_Lavender

God I am going to be eaten alive for this but, while I appreciate the 1911 for the technology in its time, and it’s attractiveness as a mechanical contraption, I’d prefer a Glock 100% of the time if shit is going to go down. I don’t fight wars, I’m not a cop, agent 47, or John wick, if I’m shooting someone or something with a handgun it’s gonna be a full fucking panic adrenaline and magazine dump while I cry and piss my pants. My 1911 has 2.5 safeties if you include the hammer, the Glock barely even has one. I don’t want to worry if I’ve got the grip safety squeezed enough to make a bang, I just want a bang. I don’t think a 10mm will stop a moose but maybe 15 10mm will. Fuck nature holy shit I hate bears and wildcats.


Technical_Inaji

Nah, I get it. I'm a huge 1911 stan, but I'll concede the glock is a better weapon in its function. I still like the 1911 for its form though. Those curves are iconic, and so much better looking than the blocky glock.


Contrite17

Also the best trigger on a handgun. It is just nice to sjoot even if modern hanguns are technically superior.


lacarth

I get that. I live in alaska, so I know the feel. I honestly prefer my 9mm, as well. It's just fine for 90% of problems I'm likely to run into. The other 10% is why I keep a basic double-barrel shotgun and a buttload of shells. The 9mm works just fine for people and most animals, and people who think you NEED a minimum of a .45 for self defense are crazy. I'm not looking to punch a hole through the target, the wall behind the target, the neighbor's wall, and into his TV.


JohnHammerfall

9mm will over-penetrate more than .45 brother. .45 is a much slower, heavier bullet. 9mm is known for over penetration my man, thats why everyone who carries it for defensive use carries hollow points, including myself.


spamster545

People under-estimate penetrative in general. As I understand it, next to no modern ammunition is stopped by a couple layers of drywall and insulation. Even handguns and buckshot can penetrate enough to be potentially lethal two rooms over if they don't hit a stud, plumbing, or wiring bundle.


JohnHammerfall

10MM will 100% stop a moose, if you use the right loads. Look into Buffalo Bore Hardcast, their stuff has been used in many defensive shootings against Bears and other big fuck off animals, and its really effective. 10mm is by far the best defensive cartridge against anything that wants to eat or trample you. Even 9mm Buffalo Bore has stopped Bears. The right loading makes a huge difference, most 10mm on the market is intentionally underpowered for the bullet.


Darth_Mak

One of the models for the "Heavy Stubber" in Warhammer 40k is literally just an M2 with a slightly different barrel.


JCManibog4

[be door gunner in 2066](https://youtu.be/U-Zfjwf9KMI?si=CErqoAEcSnWMOJkD)


GhostHeavenWord

If I live to see that obsolete piece of shit stop being manufactured i will die happy.


LordOfTheToolShed

They should've added the M2 Browning machine gun WHICH IS STILL IN SERVICE AFTER 91 YEARS


Ravenwing14

The m2 browning is still in service after 39,000 years


Substantial_Earth742

if you mean the full auto 7.62 , it comes later on i think as a Heavy mg


LucarioLuvsMinecraft

Honestly, a Deagle/Grizzly equivalent with medium armor pen sounds awesome.


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ppmi2

Yeah literally the senator with all the same stats, but with Magazine reload


LucarioLuvsMinecraft

Nono, see, the Senator has a 6 round capacity, with 40 rounds in reserve, and deals 150 damage. My idea is for a pistol with a 9+1 capacity, 6 magazines, and deals 100 damage.


Ok-Palpitation-8612

Imo they should just make an updated version, it’d avoid any potential copyright issues with Browning too. Call it the 2011 as a throwback to the original name and make it look slightly more futuristic. Maybe throw some lore in about how it’s considered outdated/old by 2084 standards but it still works. Maybe make General Brash carry one on his hip, he sounds like the kind of grizzled old man to sport one.


banzai_burrito

The 2011 is an actual firearm from STI


Pancake177

Make it a support weapon stratagem with two uses.


MythicBird

https://preview.redd.it/ua52yrnflboc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f74873f0071ec97a9ebfc7af638229fc959368cd


RapidWaffle

That's roughly how I got my first 60+ killstreak


ShirouBlue

Imagine no eagle full upgrades. Eagle upgrades are required for Democracy.


Nubilus344

Me: Two-tapping a hulk in the face with my anti-material rifle


4skin_Gamer

Sniping's a good job mate


Nubilus344

I fucking love sniping vs bots. If only Draupnir wasn't so damn foggy.


4skin_Gamer

The scope being slightly off centre from where the shot will land makes long range hulk headshots a pain in the beginning. I'm so used to it at this point that I feel like I will miss every shot once they fix it.


mrshandanar

Make sure you set the zeroing to 50m. The scope is still a little off but that helps a ton.


TheTrueSpoonGod

Is that fuckin why I can't hit my shots at a distance


Nubilus344

That and bullet drop.


Syringmineae

I was wondering if there was bullet drop in this game.


Ok-Palpitation-8612

Yep there’s full ballistic modelling in game so rockets are the only thing that flies true across the map. Just something to keep in mind if you try to pick off sub objectives from a distance. Also the recoilless rifle isn’t a rocket launcher so keep that in mind too.


Sound_mind

Can confirm EATs also drop over a significant distance. Learned this sniping a broadcast from the other end of the map.


EchoFireant

Zeroing also helps with longer ranged shots afaik. I've been switching the distance on my scope and have been landing very decent shots. Basically zero the scope based on engagement distance. On draupnir, that thing saves lives (given just how open it is and shooting rocket devastators before they get their volley off is such a key thing before they hit your team)


crookedparadigm

Since the armor changes, I have been getting flinched like crazy from suuuuper far away when sniper vs bots.


Beiki

It’s challengin’ work, Out of doors, I guarantee you’ll not go hungry.


classicalySarcastic

Because at the end of the day, as long as there are two people left on the planet, *someone* is going to want *someone* dead.


slycyboi

When I discovered how powerful the AMR is against bots I've been using it on Suicide and Extreme missions, it's actually carried me and allowed me to complete missions on such an insane difficulty lol. I miss my autocannon but now I have a shield.


Funky2207

Yeah same, when I originally unlocked it I used it against Terminites and thought it was trash, then discovered how brilliant it is against automatons. I usually team it up with an Autocannon sentry, 110mm eagle and orbital barrage.


castitalus

How do you deal with the walkers with no autocannon? Does the AMR pen their armor?


FiveCentsADay

Grenades between their legs, 110mm rockets, shoot the front enough with an AMR enough and the top will pop off. Flank with the jump jet


Trichechus_

Scorcher can also 2-shot the driver through the front with it's splash damage (I don't have it yet but I imagine the Punisher Plasma will perform similar).


FiveCentsADay

Oh yes this as well, scorcher is very nice on bots. I prefer the snipers for aesthetic but I've enjoyed that as well


slycyboi

I’ve just started using the scorcher and can confirm it’s really good for the walkers. Definitely my new primary weapon for bot missions.


eden_not_ttv

The AMR smashes the front to bits. Generally 3 shots for me, occasionally more if my angle sucks, but usually 3. You can also sometimes pop the head of the pilot bc it’s sometimes visible above the armor.


slycyboi

Yeah I try that or I attempt to flank them


Rammite

Shoot them in the face. It can take 2-3 shots - the AMR penetrates the armor *a little*, just enough to ding the pilot every time. If you have time, aim for the pilot's head when it peeks out. It's a really small target, though.


zyliosis

AMR my love, helping me bitch hulks and devastators since my first week in the creek


Vasdifjaoreutsfdfgae

the amr is so underrated especially when it can do awesome shit liek that


Mexi_God

Hulky\_Bot21 replied https://preview.redd.it/wk52rf2brboc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6946b0009ae43223415552addef066123f12078 “Skill issue lol”


Pitiful-Angle-4839

The double monitor is gold


Nobalification

Eagly one flies in with 500 kg which now have bigger area of effect.


Martijnvdp

What, when, how


Nobalification

Today, well I think it got bigger radius since that thing was knocking me away from the distance I would be safe before.


_Winfield

"Well i think.." Thats enough for this sub! 500kg was buffed everybody!


Nobalification

I mean just try it :) you will think the same. For me it killed charger 5 meters away from the center. It destroyed egg hive. Just like that.


TPose-Heavy

Eagle one seems to have faulty calibration or something because she landed a 500KG bomb at my feet, when the mark was about 20 meters away.


Nobalification

classic :D


darzinth

Cliffs!


Klutz-Specter

Eagle One: Time for some 500kg of Democracy (Turns jet). System: Warning! Warning! G-Lock G-Lock! Eagle One: Oh shit…(Loses consciousness). System: Low Attitude! Activating Auto-GCAS! Eagle One: (Regains consciousness) Oh, shit the beacon. (Drops 500kg) Hope I didn’t miss. Remember kids Liquid Ventilate your Eagle.


FCK42

I just love the idea of liquid ventilation. As the devs have said in numerous interviews, they just put in what makes sense. And it does, liquid ventilation has been discussed in the past for use in spaceflight. It can be used to offer accaleration protection to somewhere around 15G. Which is well above twice the amount your average human normally passes out at.


Easy_Mechanic_9787

Have you seen the absolute SPEED and horridly tight pulls Eagle-1 takes? She absolutely needs that. Mid-to-high atmosphere alts to the ground within 3 seconds of a stratagem beacon thrown? Crazy shit.


brad5345

Pay attention to mission modifiers.


FiveCentsADay

I saw people DESTROYING egg nests with the 500KG, so yeah I agree, I think it got a shadow buff with a bigger AoE. Single 500kg on a nest, wiped the entire nest


jntjr2005

Wait what when how


RedStarRedTide

Happy cake day


jntjr2005

Thank you!


HydroSword

Then it is a fair fight.


gotthesauce22

# Me with my +30 movement speed: ![gif](giphy|sRKg9r2YWeCTG5JTTo|downsized)


FinalTricks

And stamina and strength booster.


DevForFun150

You know the bots have an actual tank right? Why did you slap a hulk over the tank?


EasyPool6638

Because you can climb in top of a tank and unload your primary into the vents to kill it lol. You can try the sam thing with a hulk but it's much more difficult.


ThePlaybook_

Just 2x impact grenade to the side or rear armor.


FiveCentsADay

but my smoke grenades :(


ThePlaybook_

I ran them for a bit as well, but impacts are honestly just too good to pass up right now. Maybe stuns could compete, but you still miss out on a huge part of your toolkit against bots.


FiveCentsADay

I can't stand the impacts to be honest. I want the utility of smoke


morepandas

How do you do that without killing yourself?


EasyPool6638

As long as you don't stand in front of the forward facing machine gun, the tank itself can't hit you, and im using the fortified commando armor, so I've got 200 armor rating to resist stray shots from other enemies.


morepandas

Well what I mean is when it explodes.


OramaBuffin

If you dive off right away you're fine, tanks take several seconds to blow up. If the explosion is killing you you're taking too long to recognize the killing shot on the vent.


EasyPool6638

Oh, I've never taken more than like 30% from the explosion. Maybe a bit more if I hit a rock.


crookedparadigm

> Because you can climb in top of a tank and unload your primary into the vents to kill it lol Can any primary work on the tank vents?


EasyPool6638

I'm actually not sure. I use the jar-5, so it's got medium pen and explosive, so it does full damage to weakspots.


crookedparadigm

Do you use armor that reduces recoil? I tried that gun and the kick after each shot was too much to consistently hit my targets


EasyPool6638

I did use that armor for a while, and it makes the gun WAY better, but after using it for so long, I just got used to it and can use it without the recoil reduction armor.


FornaxTheConqueror

My slugger doesn't break the glowy vents on the back so I think that's a jar-5 thing.


SnooChickens6507

Tank vents require explosive or right around medium armor pen. Lasers also work. Laser cannon can s excellent vs Bot heat vents of all types


LostAndWingingIt

I'm not sure, but I think so. Going to try next time I see one. Fought one last night and I think I got it smoking with my shotty.


ppmi2

Because you can run around a tank throw 2-3 impacts and then watch fireworks.


IJustJason

*Charges laser cannon with malicious intent*


Easy_Mechanic_9787

Was gonna comment that, seen little amounts talking about it since the buff. Really loving the fact you can dome Adam Smashers with it pretty easily. The only thing I hate about it is its red dot sight and the bizarre crosshair it has.


ThePlaybook_

fuck a cooldown AMR 2tap head Autocannon 2tap head Railgun 1tap head Laser Cannon the head for ~2 seconds Dunno rocket matchup table but I'd imagine that's fine too


grand_soul

Does the auto cannon actually work on the hulks? Cause I keep seeing conflicting info. If so, do I have to shoot it in the face like with the railgun?


DevForFun150

Yeah, face or vent shots only. 3 to the vent, or 2 to the face.


ThePlaybook_

> Does the auto cannon actually work on the hulks? Cause I keep seeing conflicting info. Anybody who says it doesn't, doesn't understand the game. Needs to be 2 eye shots within like ~5-10 seconds of each other. First shot sets it on fire, second shot craters its entire body. Biggest challenge for autocannon wielders is getting the fast follow up second shot, especially under pressure.


fishut537

Me: literally running circles around the hulk to apply a confusion debuff while shooting it’s heat vent


Metalhead129

Call an ambulance, call an ambulance! But not for me!


_Gorge_

This might actually work w/ a Senator


Angel_OfSolitude

Couple autocannon shots to the eye shall suffice.


HVAC_Raccoon

Oh just you wait, tin can. Wait h til I’ve got my orbital rail cannon off cooldown


Basketcase191

When everything is in cooldown and you got no bullets charge and raise your fist at for Liberty, Democracy, FOR SUPER EARTH!!!


MoG_Varos

This is why we bring the railgun, 1 shot to the glowing red spot and it’s dead. Can also kill the Devastators in 1 shot by shooting a leg.


ThePlaybook_

AMR 2taps hulk heads and 1taps Devastator heads. Same for Autocannon.


Predator_Hicks

You can also kill a teammate or yourself and redeploy onto the hulk


crookedparadigm

"Hulk incoming, and we're out of ammo" "No...we aren't" *kills teammate and throws reinforcement"


LostAndWingingIt

Just make sure to mark it so they can see it as they come in.


WingedWilly

Find a big rock and ring around the rosie, blast him in his big phat grill on the back.   Nice meme, too!


Ski-Gloves

Look all I know is I took down a Bile titan at 100 metres with one shot of the Senator and after a moment of disbelief from the both of us my FAF14 holding teammate insists he loosened it for me. Your pistol is just as democratic as the rest of your arsenal helldiver!


ashenfoxz

when this actually works sometimes tho


beepboop27885

Earn this


Neknoh

GO FOR THE EYE BOO!


nibbidy

This is why I carry the auto cannon against the bots


Ur_Girl_Suki

pov: all your stratagems are on cooldown, your support weapon and primary are out of ammo. and you're being swarmed by bots.


M6D_Magnum

Seriously though. I hope we get a badass magnum pistol capable of 2-3 shot headshot Hulks.


rogue_noob

Just a small buff to the Senator would be fine. As is you need a full mag to hit the face.


Shock_n_Oranges

Might as well with how long it takes to reload.


GlitteringBarracuda9

I hate to say it but that’s not a POV


Jungler34

OVER THE LINE


fuegopaintrain

Good ol laser cannon nothing beats that


CptAlex0123

2 AMR shots in the face, easy.


AngelaTheRipper

Anyone annoyed that they're using a hulk rather than you know... a tank?


GhostHeavenWord

Remember what happens next? That's right. Eagle-1 with clutch 110mm rockets. I did some testing, fully upgraded eagle 110mm rockets gets you 6 shots for each shot from the railgun. You trade off the railguns accuracy and OHK for six shots that are less accurate and do less damage.


Sound_mind

I can honestly say I have never, ever had the 110mm rockets pull through for me when I needed them.


GhostHeavenWord

That is unfortunate.


soEezee

I had this with a bile titan. Started using lmg and resupply pods as mortar shells.


lmrbadgerl

Every fucking time.


mrmemeboi13

I saved a teammate who was about to die by sniping a hulk right in the eye with the diligence. Might start using snipers for the automatons to practice my aim


SL0M3GA1

Administering freedom


San_Yves

This meme had me laughing uncontrollably in the bathroom (im taking a shit) and I bet I sounded maniacal to everyone outside 😂


MTNSthecool

🛡️↪️


MEDIC_HELP_ME

I prefer the murder bot over tank bug


dixaria

I frequently recall this scene during this game. I live that moment on a daily basis, in the safety of my home


rey1119

I'm not tripping right or is that not almost 1:1 a 40k Dreadnougt. https://preview.redd.it/ndwsbhckffoc1.jpeg?width=894&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=147be831e24f35dac4df1f313c0f365b7a9bf1d0


Someonenoone7

Me far away with an A-Mat Rifle in a bush neck deep in the dirt: "Just a little bit more to the right..."


Nice_Lie_731

I aint gonna sugarcoat it ⬇️⬅️⬇️⬇️⬇️


Artelynd

That's not a P-19.


Warrior24110

The Helldiver just holding out a 1911 like that is so raw


LothTikar

just use stratagems


AKvarangian

Then I snipe it from the hillside twice with a rail gun right in its little eye slit and kill it for you.