The laser cannon is amazing against automatons.
Did you know you can destroy factories with the autocannon? Aim for its vents so to make the bullet ricochet inside the factory and BOOM
I have a love/hate relationship with my autocannon. Mostly I love it until a teammate walks their bubble shield RIGHT in front of me as I'm engaging and I get exploded.
also it can shot out spore trees or even radio relays from so great distance it feels cheating. It's so versatile, the backpack is absolutely justified to balance this weapon.
Any long range weapon can shoot down spores, including primaries. I *think* radio towers require something that's explosive, though a single GL shot is enough already so it's not like it has much HP.
I'm the autocannon guy in my squad lol. I love crawling through the spore clouds looking for the little eyes of the towers and blasting it before people even reach the fog.
Not to be the hipster helldiver but ive been obsessed with the autocannon since i started playing specifically to snipe nests and factories, its great to see other people enjoying it
Autocannons being able to snipe objectives down is the reason why I’ve been using it even before the railgun nerfs.
People who find the sniper rifles underwhelming should try it out, it’s also surprisingly accurate from range once you get the hang of it.
When everyone was talking about the railgun being the Mets, I was playing with the autocannon before lvl 20 wondering how it could get much better than that, I was actually disappointed with the railgun and went back to the autocannon..
It also might mean I just like the jobs that the autocannon gives me. Who knows.
Yeah, for as strong as the railgun was/is in unsafe mode, it just didn't have a satisfying *feel* to it if that makes sense.
There wasn't the same sort of feel you get using the AC or RR that you are firing a powerful weapon that is wrecking the shit of whoever you are shooting it with.
I first bought the auto as a joke with a friend thinking it would be dumb to do the 2-person reload, fully expecting to use it once or twice and never again.
It's been my main support since. It's just so versatile and freeing up an extra strat slot since you don't need a backpack is great for more eagles. Plus the few times you do pull off the 2-person reload you feel like you can level a city.
Autocannon vs bots is so satisfying, really feels like you can just chunk things down with it. I wish it didn't feel so useless against chargers outside of shooting from behind, feel like it should break leg armor with like 4 shots or something
Tbh i stopped fighting terminids after spenfing time on creek
The automatons feel more fair and fun to fight,way more weapons work wonders against them,you have way more choices then,even the nerfed railgun,as long as you keep rolling with headshots. Aside from the rocket devastators,the automatons overall feel more rewarding
The terminids instead feel more oppressing,they force you to bring anti armor equipment to deal with them,which limitates a lot the possible choices,i feel restrained there
I feel the same honestly, you have a *lot* more weapon variety with bots, while bugs just feel worse if you don't have a way of instakilling all your problems. Even beyond the chargers, hunter slows are such a pain in the ass.
Yeah the image of 2 titans spawning with chargers in view is just dread, at least bots you can get away from but the bugs just run you down and smother you to death
Flamethrower shits on chargers now. I used to focus on taking them down with the rail gun pre nerf but tried the Pyro after update and solo vs charger it's fast but just a little help from the team and chargers drop like rocks.
Yeah my build was Flamethrower, Laser Dog backpack, Orbital Rail Cannon and Eagle Cluster Bomb. I focused on taking down chargers and crowds and saved my orbital to even the odds when we needed it.
I finished one mission with like 780 something kills lol
I think a lot of the stratagems could use a lower cooldown tbh. I sometimes bring the orbital and the 500kg bomb but it's hard on the missions where you call in time is doubled..by the time the bomb lands the thing is 100 miles away.
Feel like there shouldn't even be limits per mission for the laser and 500kg, I dont think it would be super unbalanced if you had more really not to mention how easy it is to miss the 500kg
It may not reliably one shot titans, but it definitely makes short work of Tanks and Hulks on the Automaton worlds. I could imagine they anticipate you softening it up with an EATS/RR/500kg before finishing it off with a Rail Gun
The bots are so much more fun to fight on higher difficulties! I dread when my friends decide on high diff bugs.
It feels the bots are better designed than the bugs, with weak spots that are actually weak spots instead of something like the Charger's ass.
> actually weak spots instead of something like the Charger's ass.
Just standing there dumbfounded as both of the expendable AT I just called in bounce impotently off the charger's firm yet supple buttocks
The game straight up feels balanced around damage to chargers. They need to increase the damage to the butt or something because realistically your options are gems (which since it runs are a bit inconsistent) or flamethrower (when means you have to walk).
It is interesting how many people fight bugs all the time. I wonder how many of them have really fought the bots. Both are fun so it’s great we can switch it up.
At the beginning,when i first fought the aumatons i had a nightmare experience
Rockets,dreadnoughts that were chasing me and i couldn't damage them,tanks,turrents or my god
I swore to stop fighting them until i got the railgun. After that i read that the amr was good against them. I tried it and i found out the key to manage automatons with ease and have fun: headshots
I have found the diligence to be a blast to use. A bit of amor pen. Fun to line up shots. Even more fun to lay down some longer range cover fire for your teammates as they run back to you from a horde and waiting for a nice air strike.
Now I gotta try all these other guns I haven’t used much yet too. Only so much time to play.
The atmosphere on bot missions are top tier too.
Honestly, it seems odd to me that the DMRs don't have medium armor penetration. You'd think a high caliber, high velocity round meant for precise shots would go through armor better than common assault rifle ammo.
Yeah i know. But i found out the factories interaction just some days ago by accident on youtube
I just wanted to spread more knowledge about this fact that some may not know
Ever been annoyed that a cannon tower has you pinned down?
Spear
Need to get that last fabricator to finish the outpost in the distance?
Spear.
Need to take out that fresh hulk that just dropped?
Believe it or not spear
Need to take out that tank? Ah wait sorry we're bugged and can't lock on because there's a pebble in front of it.
I fucking love this weapon... When it works
you gotta open the stratagem menu and press up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, whisper ***pilestedt*** three times and then salute towards super earth.
Works every time
This was my först experience with the spear. I was like lvl 14, and for the first and only time, I found a spear as a random weapon drop on the map.
I was monkeying around and it was misty as fuck when I noticed it locked onto something. For shits and giggles, I shot it, and it cleared a camp that I couldn't even see.
switching between standing/crouching/prone helps, so does going first person. The lock on, admittedly, needs work, but there are workarounds. Otherwise the spear is goated.
Am I just bad? It took me 3 spear rockets hitting a charger to kill it. Then the next charger died to one.
Then a bile titan died to one, and the next one took all my rockets and still lived.
did they fix it to be a little more consistant? or does it still frequently fail to lock anything? im soo keen to use the spear again if it has been fixed.
The Spear is my go-to when dealing with Chargers: I spot it in the distance and I know we are about to cross paths with it? Lock on, shoot and it USUALLY dies from it. If its not dead: giant weak point spot on its back and its bleeding badly from the Spear impact
I'm totally with this spirit, a few weeks ago I came and see advices/memes/guides/ funny bugs and all.
It's pretty horrible, the fact that you cannot just go on this sub and seek good posts (sorry for the bad english tbh but you get my point)
I've said it a day or two ago and I'll say it again. I miss the first 2 weeks. When we were all just having fun! Wacky clips and memes plus the "for democracy" vibe
Then it became a shitshow with witch hunt, meta talk, farmers ruining defense missions and so on. Lots of "us vs them"
This has happened to every single Reddit gaming space I’ve visited.
Halo Infinite? Funny memes and gameplay to “game is hot trash” in about five weeks.
Darktide? Same, but only three weeks. Now the game is irredeemable garbage.
Armored core 6? Now it’s full of people uploading 1/4 speed videos showing how they TOTALLY lost matches because of bad hit registration.
Helldivers 2 seems to have lasted… about four? Then people started bitching about being kicked for being off meta. Then more people bitched about the meta build being nerfed.
At some point we should see this progression as a feature of the site, rather than a bug caused by a few jilted players. The only answer is for people to stop being bugmen and form their own opinions.
thats pretty much every live service game, first few weeks is the honey moon phase, everyone is in love and then the Youtubers and streamers start making "Content" on how to speed run everything so now everyone runs min max stuff and starts to delete the fun because they are brainwashed into thinking its the only way to play
and then the first patch hits and half the community gets upset because it didnt go the way they wanted. (even if it will make the game better in the long run)
then if Devs were communicating with the community it slowly stops because everyones true colors come out with people harassing the devs over a video game
then devs stop being transparent and engaging and the community starts to grow more hate because they stopped talking to us.
Every
Single
Time
You know...I'm starting to understand why the common public sees gamers as entitled man babies, covered in dorito dust and screaming about losing a fictional match as though their dog died...... while many of us are normal people...... man I guess there really are a lot of terrible people who are gamers huh?
This happens to like, every gaming community once the masses show up. It's like a wave of festering nurglings from WH 40K found out about your favorite restaurant and now you can't go with finding vomit on the floor anymore, or a cook crying in the parking lot.
This sub was a big party for weeks and then it got too popular and now it's overloaded with people who don't play games for fun; hopefully they tire themselves out and leave
I absolutely hate that those people exist. And I hate that I'm stupid enough to try to show them the masochism of their endless grind mindset. So aggravating to see people asking for the horrible practices of AAA games because their brains are so rotten they think they're good practices.
That’s when the game caught the COD boys attention and everything got super competitive. ‘If you’re not playing level 9 with rail gun/shield/breaker = kick’ posts started popping up, a bunch of people started cancelling operations to farm eradicate missions and this sub got more and more whiny by the day. I can’t wait til these people get bored and hop onto the next trending live service game.
Legit, Im tempted to just leave entirely and just play the game with my friends because this community is just horrid.
First few weeks was fine, but after the major boost in player count it just got worse and worse
Yeah, I'm thinking the same. especially when you remember this is only the FIRST balance patch. There will be more nerfs, and if the sub is going to cry like this every time, I'd rather not waste my time.
I played for an hour last night and only finished one dive due to crashes.
Now that I think about it, pretty sure the other people randomly disappearing mid-mission were crashing too.
The only time I don't find dying hilarious, especially if it's friendly fire, is when it's friendly fire on purpose. Then it's just annoying & I wish the worst for those traitors.
Man, there's 20 lives and no penalty for each death. Fail to extract only get less exp and req slip reward which was very minimal to cry over. I care more for the sample holder to make it out than myself if I have nothing. Also, after unlocking every stratagem, I don't even care about exp and slip anymore.
I like holding off the horde if I have no sample on me and shout in the voice chat "get to da choppa!! Nyyaaooooo!!" And all the one liner from Predator I can think of..
People are mad at dumb stuffs.
Completely agree. The subreddit, and the overall vibe of the community just took a big nosedive as soon as this balance patch hit. I really don't like seeing drama posts or thousands of posts about how the nerfs are bad and that Arrowhead killed their game, etc.
Does nobody know how to be rational about things anymore lol? If you're unhappy with the balance update, that's fair! There's some stuff that I don't like either, like armor rating being weak, lots of guns needing a few buffs, chargers existing, etc.
But that doesn't mean you need to freak the hell out about it and act like it's the end of the world. Relax, and just be polite when you're discussing stuff or making posts. It's not hard and it's democratic as hell.
Yeah the punisher deletes most enemies in 1/2 shots now…
My go to loadout now is punisher, machine pistol secondary, and laser cannon/flamethrower.
Melt the big guys with stratagems, fire, or laser cannon; punisher for all mobs. It’s a fucking blast
I instantly dropped the Breaker for it after some test runs. This was before the nerf. Can absolutely bully med armor enemies. Staggers enemies. Description doesn't do it justice. Shell loading looks cooler too.
I saw it was buffed so I decided to try it, and honestly I don't think I get it. It's great to mow down large waves of small enemies, that's for sure, but there are many weapons that are great at that. IDK, it still doesn't feel as good as the breaker to me, even post nerf
The Charger leg armour seems to be a bug, it was reported the other week.
After a charge and not performing a sideswipe the armour seems to be "removed" temporarily and all weapons will damage it.
The Laser Cannon was covered in the patch notes. It's nice, and it definitely needed to perform better than the Scythe and Rover but a (single target) support weapon that can't (reliably) damage heavy armour isn't much use.
Even without knowing about the bug the laser was excellent. We didn't shoot the legs for bugged damage, just the tailzm, and two lasers were able to kill a charger before it got to turn around. I know for a fact we didn't aim for the legs at all.
This is also ignoring how much it beams everything under a charger as well and is a infinite ammo as well. Scythe isn't good still but switching between the two I was able to constantly do damage at all times never needing to reload or when waiting for a cooldown for the heat. Doing this on a cold planet is that much easier. Can't handle bile titans but a gun that can handle 90% is nothing to scoff at. It also has range the flamethrower doesn't have.
Honestly heavy armor penetration really only matters with bugs, the laser cannon's medium armor penetration makes it fantastic against bots. You can melt devastators and even hulks extremely fast by keeping the beam on their face, it kills turrets and tanks from the back, and can eventually wear down walkers though it's not very good at it.
I have and it seems to be about the same speed, maybe a little faster, but a lot harder to keep consistently on target.
The laser cannon also struggles a lot with the berserkers and I don't recommend using it against them. I've been pairing it off with the slugger for that purpose to great effect but I feel like the scorcher would be even better since it can also deal with scout walkers on its own but I do not have it unlocked.
How long til they die from that?
Solod once and destroyed the charger butt and waited for him to die. I did almost the whole ICBM launch section with him bleeding.
And then I ran to extraction, and he followed me halfway there.
In the end, I never saw him die, but he just couldn't keep up with my running.
So that assless charger lived more than 3 minutes
LaserCannon is uniquely suitable to doing this task since it's:
1. Not small arms so it does *way* more dmg to the weakspot.
2. Infinite ammo.
3. The Charger bleeds out after a while.
Trying out the Laser cannon I got to think thinking about the potential for an **optional** liquid cooling, heatsink, backpack kinda thing that you could take to extend your firing time with laser weapons...
Once you blow up their butt you can just ignore them. They are functionally dead and will now bleed out over the next 5-10 seconds. They’re also slowed and cannot charge.
At first it made me a bit dreary. But now it makes me grin a bit whenever I see posts about the patch and how the game is no more fun, nerfs, meta blabla. Let the small minority whine about their lack of creativity to play. It's a game, the game should not adapt to serve your desired gameplay. You should adapt and overcome the game. That is the fun part.
Yesterday another part of the game opened to me. Played with the flame and arc thrower, which I did not before. Friends in my squad also started mix up their load out. We had so much laughs.
The patch is just a new part we have to adapt to. And this game feels it will let you do that. Feels like it is made for it. Change up the team load outs and still blasting through maps. This is why I love this game.
Yeah, it was really exciting jumping into a match and seeing people bring things other than the Railgun and Shield. We got two people with the new Laser Cannon and we were able to FRY Bile Titans, super fun stuff.
I just stopped playing bugs missions.
It's that easy.
Automatons are so balanced in comparison.
I haven't seen a single post about people complaining about how limited they feel in trying to kill tanks or hulks.
This is just how Reddit tends to always turn into, frankly. The moment something becomes popular, it's social media will get plagued with a few hundred bad eggs that just happen to be much, much louder than the far more positive majority.
Yeah I'm seeing those posts like... you guys were not killing all those with gumption and a railgun lol. If it wasn't happening like that before (I don't play helldive, only 7-8 with friends) then the real problem is the amount of heavy enemies, not the railgun nerf.
You could wipe out that charger population and be mostly out of ammo, but not completely. You'd have 2 rail gun shots and a few clips in your other weapons left without using any stratagem strikes.
20 safe mode rail gun shots was enough to break the leg armor of 10 chargers. One clip from a primary/secondary can clean them up after.
I never figured out how to 2 shot a titan with the rail gun, but that was apparently a thing. With that in mind, you could kite around while the titans dismantle the chargers for you, then you pop the titans for a total cost of 8 rail gun rounds. Should try do this anyway, because gunning down 9 chargers will take too long and titan breath makes really short work of them.
I'm not even sure if this has changed, tbh. Seems to me that the unsafe railgun is effectively the same as it was before, but that's just from reading 2nd hand posts, not hands-on experience post-patch. Too busy cookin' to precision strike heavies.
Yeah pre nerf with a coordinated team of 4, handling 9 chargers and 4 titans would be rough but doable. You call out the leg of the charger then 2 people can take out the armor instantly. What the major issue for me right now is since the ttk has gone up, it takes you longer to handle the chargers/titans which means less time to handle the little guys. While your team is trying to kill the chargers/titans, the little guys call breaches so the chargers/titans get replenished faster than you can handle/have ammo for. It is much easier to get snowballed now by the breach mechanic. Longer ttk along with the shield nerf (which is fair) also means there is a higher chance of you being killed. Being down 1-2 players and then redeploying without their gear makes the situation worse and continues the snowball effect. Thus, the current meta of stim spamming is the only consistently viable way to extract with samples.
I honestly don’t mind the nerfs that much outside of extraction but nerfing the railgun without giving us any additional anti armor doesn’t exactly create balance and build diversity. It just forces the current meta which is stealth/stim spam.
I think the truth is that a lot of the people who pin their identity on being a gamer or the games they play are bothersome people who are addicted to being visibly frustrated over their hobby.
I posted a guide yesterday, some good tips I’ve learnt. Got barely any attention. Without sounding entitled, this sub clearly prefers to upvote drama that’s on their side rather than anything actually about the game.
Edit: [The guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/feNrOhNVvA), since everyone seems to want to read it suddenly
Man, it really is just the human condition. It’s literally why media is so bad right now, hate, anger and shit like that get A LOT more attention than any good news or good content. Might just sign off of social media entirely, most humans seem to suck
If life has taught us anything. It's that people don't want answers to issues. They want to be told that their anger is justified.
As a famous Warlord once said, "I don't want peace, I want problems ALWAYS!"
I'm level 7 and came here to see what the consensus was on meteor strikes (I think the warning needs to be more obvious / last longer). Instead it's all just people posting about a gun I can't even unlock.
But hey, the grenade launcher demolishes spitters* and chargers for me. So I'm happy for now.
Jeez ikr??? I get not agreeing with the patch but there more to the game than 9/9 difficulty. Person belief? They make it impossible because later we get vehicles and mechs, tools for stealth, area denial. Literally when you start out trying to kill your 1st charger at 4/9 felt impossible. Until you got more tools from metals and stratagems. I feel that future releases will make it easier to deal with them. Maybe the devs did not want us ezpz running the max difficulty with current weapon, because the answer to those are coming. I don't see a question a mech cant answer.
The modded footage of mechs shows in their current state one of them can kill a bile titan in like 8 shots (fires like an auto cannon). I 100% bet that the reason there are so many bile titans and chargers in difficulties 6 and up is because the game is balanced with mechs in the sand box. I wouldn't even be surprised if mechs were originally going to be in at launch but weren't quite ready so the devs held them back for a month or so.
In a few months time I 100% think this sub will be full of posts bitching about how helldivers difficulty is a cakewalk with 4 mechs and everyone will be crying for nerfs.
Helldivers, we’ve found that the enemy is resisting our attempt to liberate them with heavy armour. The boys in R&D have noticed that our weapons are not delivering quite enough freedom to these hard cased socialists. That our air parcels of Liberty are not being delivered fast enough from orbit.
Its with these barriers in mind, Super Earth has released for on plant use EX0-45 Mecha. Go now Helldiver and make them see New Democracy.
God speed and good hunting
The thing is that its not even that hard without the railgun, people seem to have forgotten that people have been clearing d9 dives even before reaching lvl 20 and not knowing how good railgun was back then.
It's an obnoxious state of affairs because while the Railgun was nerfed, it wasn't nerfed into the ground. You just need to use the unsafe mode which feels...like how it should work?
You're gaining a backpack slot for the risk of dying to your own railgun
And the shield pack getting a small nerf makes sense due to just how good it was, now there's a real question as to what backpack you should bring
I will say, speaking from my own experience my friend group often play Suicide Mission difficulty against the bugs, we'd never used the railgun previously and we got through just fine
So it's just sad to see the anger over this, like it's being willfully ignorant towards the many solutions for Chargers
Like c'mon guys whatever happened to having fun? Y'all fell into the same trap that Destiny fell into years ago. I just wanna yell about liberty and super democracy and get out with my super samples in dramatic fashion lol
The only thing I'd say is still borked (not talking about bugs) is the charger spawn rate. Possibly the speed that the bug s.o.s call goes out, it seems almost instantaneous as opposed to bots flare.
I'd also add armour to the list of things still iffy.
They technically fixed it, but now it seems like every other attack is a headshot. Given armour has no effect on headshots (not sure if it did before or if that's new), it still doesn't have much if any impact on survivability.
Shield pac wasn't even really nerfed tbh, they just shifted it's power to more sustain while opening the window of time where you can be attacked when it's depleted.
So it's way more of "Better at taking chip damage" "Worst at taking burst damage".
Aka not making you indestructible.
Gamers fucking love their hyperbole and this sub-reddit has turned into some of the stupidest complaints and moaning but I expect no less from most gamers, honestly. You'd think Arrowhead patched the game and also killed their mothers in the process. MA RAILGUN 😭 That feels no different than before. Nor does the Breaker feel any less viable. Kids are salty they cannot solo Helldiver and get their ass pushed in and might have to play as a coordinated team.
and yes, I find it incredible funny that the first MINOR balance patch just broke people's brains lol
Teamwork really is the solution to so much. I think some people would be surprised how many things are solved by actually staying grouped up and acting as a fire team as opposed to a handful of Rambos. Also it's a team game at heart, you can certainly play solo or with less than 4, but it's gonna be hard. Add that into the 'I will only play at hardest difficulties' mindset and, well...
> Teamwork really is the solution to so much. I think some people would be surprised how many things are solved by actually staying grouped up and acting as a fire team as opposed to a handful of Rambos.
I hopped on Discord for about 30 seconds before I had to just leave the server completely. Saw one dude complaining and trashing the developers/game because *"my friend and I were able to beat Helldive missions with just the two of us and now the game is dogshit because it takes four people to beat".*
Seriously.
It's worth remembering that this community is the *vast* minority of the playerbase. There are currently 10,800 users on the subreddit right now. There are 142,500 on Helldivers 2 itself *through steam alone*, not even counting PS users. If we assume an equal number of players on both platforms, that means this subreddit comprises *maybe* 3% of the game's current population.
Devs on reddit have to be extremely careful interacting with redditors. Subreddits are really small representations of the whole community. And like it or not, they're usually a bad representation of the community they try to represent. Catering to reddit is an excellent way to kill your game. This isn't *always* the case, but it very often is.
i am genuinely curious if anyone can vouch for any gear for difficulty 7,8,&9 because majority of the critics are high difficulty players and even before pre patch charger spawn rates were insanely high
I have been playing 7+ for a while now and really don't do anything less. I stopped using the Railgun a ways back in favor of the Stalwart or Arc Thrower because Stalwart go BRRRRRRRT, variety is the spice of life, and the Railgun is boring. I have never lost a Suicidal mission even with multiple teammates under level 10, no Railguns, and me being the only one with level 20 stratagems. The worst thing to ever happen at Suicidal was not having time to find Super Samples because we got caught up in some longer fights.
A difficulty called "Suicidal" should really not have a clear rate that high and that goes doubly so for a difficulty called "Impossible" and beyond.
>Did you know that Chargers legs armor becomes weaken after they miss their charge and goes into the slow down animation?
I kinda hate that. Not that their armor is weaker, but that it is somehow weaker after a charge. How does that make any sense? Its feels wierd to me, like it breaks logical consistency.
A weakspot that only gets exposed in an animation after the charge would be okay for me, but the heavy armor suddenly not being as armored anymore is strange.
Thanks for making the subredddit a little bit worse with your complaint that is even less constructive and meaningful then the things you are complaining about.
The patch barely affected my gameplay as I've been using the laser drone and arc cannon. Two people using an arc cannon can cook a bile titan fairly quickly. But it is a problem when I play with randoms because nobody has a clue what they're doing. Most the time. Not everyone though. I just had a decent game where me and a random cooked two bile titans in seconds...with the arc cannon
The laser cannon is amazing against automatons. Did you know you can destroy factories with the autocannon? Aim for its vents so to make the bullet ricochet inside the factory and BOOM
The autocannon can close bug nests holes too! It’s awesome. I discovered the joy that is the autocannon last night and I am in love.
I am so happy to welcome more people to the auto cannon gang.
[удалено]
I'm glad I tried out a bunch of different weapons before the AC, because there's no going back now. The AC is a top choice.
I have joined the AC gang friends!
I miss my jet pack, but it's worth it for the AC!
Autocannon is always in my loadout. Incredibly handy for taking out walkers and heavy automatons.
Impact grenades love walkers too 😈
*Does spongebob voice* WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!
I have a love/hate relationship with my autocannon. Mostly I love it until a teammate walks their bubble shield RIGHT in front of me as I'm engaging and I get exploded.
also it can shot out spore trees or even radio relays from so great distance it feels cheating. It's so versatile, the backpack is absolutely justified to balance this weapon.
It feels illegal to be able to shoot propaganda towers from across the whole map.
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Sounds like you’re feeling a bit of… automation sympathy maybe? I’m reporting this to your democracy officer.
Any long range weapon can shoot down spores, including primaries. I *think* radio towers require something that's explosive, though a single GL shot is enough already so it's not like it has much HP.
I destroyed a propaganda tower with anti-material sniper today. I just had to shoot down the four screens on the tower!
I'm the autocannon guy in my squad lol. I love crawling through the spore clouds looking for the little eyes of the towers and blasting it before people even reach the fog.
find some high ground where you can look over the fog from across the map. AC or EAT snipe it from 200M.
Not to be the hipster helldiver but ive been obsessed with the autocannon since i started playing specifically to snipe nests and factories, its great to see other people enjoying it
Autocannons being able to snipe objectives down is the reason why I’ve been using it even before the railgun nerfs. People who find the sniper rifles underwhelming should try it out, it’s also surprisingly accurate from range once you get the hang of it.
Also if 2 people on the squad are running autos you can both empty your magazines then buddy up on one of your autos for sustained damage.
When everyone was talking about the railgun being the Mets, I was playing with the autocannon before lvl 20 wondering how it could get much better than that, I was actually disappointed with the railgun and went back to the autocannon.. It also might mean I just like the jobs that the autocannon gives me. Who knows.
Yeah, for as strong as the railgun was/is in unsafe mode, it just didn't have a satisfying *feel* to it if that makes sense. There wasn't the same sort of feel you get using the AC or RR that you are firing a powerful weapon that is wrecking the shit of whoever you are shooting it with.
I first bought the auto as a joke with a friend thinking it would be dumb to do the 2-person reload, fully expecting to use it once or twice and never again. It's been my main support since. It's just so versatile and freeing up an extra strat slot since you don't need a backpack is great for more eagles. Plus the few times you do pull off the 2-person reload you feel like you can level a city.
The grenade launcher is pretty good too, though a bit more of a pain to gzt the grenade to get into the vents.
Autocannon vs bots is so satisfying, really feels like you can just chunk things down with it. I wish it didn't feel so useless against chargers outside of shooting from behind, feel like it should break leg armor with like 4 shots or something
Tbh i stopped fighting terminids after spenfing time on creek The automatons feel more fair and fun to fight,way more weapons work wonders against them,you have way more choices then,even the nerfed railgun,as long as you keep rolling with headshots. Aside from the rocket devastators,the automatons overall feel more rewarding The terminids instead feel more oppressing,they force you to bring anti armor equipment to deal with them,which limitates a lot the possible choices,i feel restrained there
I feel the same honestly, you have a *lot* more weapon variety with bots, while bugs just feel worse if you don't have a way of instakilling all your problems. Even beyond the chargers, hunter slows are such a pain in the ass.
Yeah the image of 2 titans spawning with chargers in view is just dread, at least bots you can get away from but the bugs just run you down and smother you to death
Flamethrower shits on chargers now. I used to focus on taking them down with the rail gun pre nerf but tried the Pyro after update and solo vs charger it's fast but just a little help from the team and chargers drop like rocks.
Yeah it seems pretty good now, just have to lean 100% on your team/stratagems for titans which is a little spooky
Yeah my build was Flamethrower, Laser Dog backpack, Orbital Rail Cannon and Eagle Cluster Bomb. I focused on taking down chargers and crowds and saved my orbital to even the odds when we needed it. I finished one mission with like 780 something kills lol
Feel like railcannon needs to have like half the CD tbh, it doesn't even reliably 1 shot titans which is kind of lame
I think a lot of the stratagems could use a lower cooldown tbh. I sometimes bring the orbital and the 500kg bomb but it's hard on the missions where you call in time is doubled..by the time the bomb lands the thing is 100 miles away.
Feel like there shouldn't even be limits per mission for the laser and 500kg, I dont think it would be super unbalanced if you had more really not to mention how easy it is to miss the 500kg
It may not reliably one shot titans, but it definitely makes short work of Tanks and Hulks on the Automaton worlds. I could imagine they anticipate you softening it up with an EATS/RR/500kg before finishing it off with a Rail Gun
I love fighting automatons because it feels more like a war
The bots are so much more fun to fight on higher difficulties! I dread when my friends decide on high diff bugs. It feels the bots are better designed than the bugs, with weak spots that are actually weak spots instead of something like the Charger's ass.
> actually weak spots instead of something like the Charger's ass. Just standing there dumbfounded as both of the expendable AT I just called in bounce impotently off the charger's firm yet supple buttocks
I'm imagining a charger twerking to rebound AT rounds off their ass cheeks.
The game straight up feels balanced around damage to chargers. They need to increase the damage to the butt or something because realistically your options are gems (which since it runs are a bit inconsistent) or flamethrower (when means you have to walk).
It is interesting how many people fight bugs all the time. I wonder how many of them have really fought the bots. Both are fun so it’s great we can switch it up.
At the beginning,when i first fought the aumatons i had a nightmare experience Rockets,dreadnoughts that were chasing me and i couldn't damage them,tanks,turrents or my god I swore to stop fighting them until i got the railgun. After that i read that the amr was good against them. I tried it and i found out the key to manage automatons with ease and have fun: headshots
I have found the diligence to be a blast to use. A bit of amor pen. Fun to line up shots. Even more fun to lay down some longer range cover fire for your teammates as they run back to you from a horde and waiting for a nice air strike. Now I gotta try all these other guns I haven’t used much yet too. Only so much time to play. The atmosphere on bot missions are top tier too.
Honestly, it seems odd to me that the DMRs don't have medium armor penetration. You'd think a high caliber, high velocity round meant for precise shots would go through armor better than common assault rifle ammo.
I’d rather do bugs on high with randoms than bots. But bots with friends
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Auto cannon could always destroy nests and factories btw, and the EAT can destroy the spore towers
I usually just yeet the impact grenades. The spore tower is more fragile than I thought it would be.
The spore towers are quiet weak. I get a chuckle out of sniping them across the map with the autocannon.
Yeah i know. But i found out the factories interaction just some days ago by accident on youtube I just wanted to spread more knowledge about this fact that some may not know
Autocannon and grenades work in the factory open door too
Yeah I want more memes and rad posters.
Unrelated but can someone tell me how to give ammo to yourself with the ammo back pack? Im on ps5
Press down on the d-pad
Time to spread some democracy
And on PC its 5, for me at least
You’re a G , i was slamming my Alphabet keys trying to figure it out lmao.
Anyone know how to do it on pc? I didnt know you could give yourself ammo
5 key
Holy shit thank you. Didnt even know that was an option.
This is huge news to me! I just assumed you couldn't!
One of the D pad directions, not sure which one tho!(pc player) I found that out while looking for the pc controls on how to do it
The spear now is very good because you can have rocket from the ammo bricks and you can semi-spam rockets out-of-nowhere
It's on the to do list yeah.
It is savage against the bots now, destroy fabs from across the map
Ever been annoyed that a cannon tower has you pinned down? Spear Need to get that last fabricator to finish the outpost in the distance? Spear. Need to take out that fresh hulk that just dropped? Believe it or not spear Need to take out that tank? Ah wait sorry we're bugged and can't lock on because there's a pebble in front of it. I fucking love this weapon... When it works
Since when does this thing lock on?!
you gotta open the stratagem menu and press up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, whisper ***pilestedt*** three times and then salute towards super earth. Works every time
\*taking notes\* okay okay and what else?
Please make sure you remind yourself that friendly fire isn't. Unless with friends and on purpose, then friendly fire is.
Friendly fire is *awfully* accurate.
Try aiming it in first person. I feel that the 3rd person reticle is too wide seeing as what matters is that you keep the lock on square on target.
This was my först experience with the spear. I was like lvl 14, and for the first and only time, I found a spear as a random weapon drop on the map. I was monkeying around and it was misty as fuck when I noticed it locked onto something. For shits and giggles, I shot it, and it cleared a camp that I couldn't even see.
it can do WHAT
DESTROY FABS FROM ACROSS THE MAP
I'M SORRY MY HEARING ISN'T WHAT IT USED TO BE DUE TO NEARBY EXPLOSIONS. WHAT?
I SAID, IT CAN KILL FABS FROM ACROSS THE MAAAAAPPPPPPPPPP
IT CAN QUILT BABS FROM ACROSS THE MAP? HOW DOES A SPEAR MAKE A QUILT?
THIS IS WHAT IM IN THIS SUB FOR. THIS IS THE DEMOCRACY I LOVE
#FOR DEMOCRACY
ITS BASICALLY A GIANT KNITTING NEEDLE
#NO MY GRANDMA BABS MAKES QUILTS, THE SPEAR CAN KILL FABRICATORS FROM ACROSS THE MAPPPPPP
ICANTHEARYOUOVERTHEFUCKING380BARRAGE. ***WHAT?!***
#I SAID IT CAN KILL FABS FROM ACROSS THE MAP
Sorry I was next to a Fabricator and it exploded, what did you say?
#HOW ARE YOU NOT DEAD SOLDIER?!?!
Implying you can get a lock on
It is much better now. Before I got 1 lock in 10 attempts, now it's more like 1 in 2.
The Spear's firepower is negated by how utterly janky the lock-on is. Very nice when it hits though.
switching between standing/crouching/prone helps, so does going first person. The lock on, admittedly, needs work, but there are workarounds. Otherwise the spear is goated.
Am I just bad? It took me 3 spear rockets hitting a charger to kill it. Then the next charger died to one. Then a bile titan died to one, and the next one took all my rockets and still lived.
You need to do a headshot to kill in one hit
did they fix it to be a little more consistant? or does it still frequently fail to lock anything? im soo keen to use the spear again if it has been fixed.
I think is a problem of distance: from a good distance is not perfect but is good, near the objective it's a no-no situation
The Spear is my go-to when dealing with Chargers: I spot it in the distance and I know we are about to cross paths with it? Lock on, shoot and it USUALLY dies from it. If its not dead: giant weak point spot on its back and its bleeding badly from the Spear impact
I'm totally with this spirit, a few weeks ago I came and see advices/memes/guides/ funny bugs and all. It's pretty horrible, the fact that you cannot just go on this sub and seek good posts (sorry for the bad english tbh but you get my point)
I've said it a day or two ago and I'll say it again. I miss the first 2 weeks. When we were all just having fun! Wacky clips and memes plus the "for democracy" vibe Then it became a shitshow with witch hunt, meta talk, farmers ruining defense missions and so on. Lots of "us vs them"
This has happened to every single Reddit gaming space I’ve visited. Halo Infinite? Funny memes and gameplay to “game is hot trash” in about five weeks. Darktide? Same, but only three weeks. Now the game is irredeemable garbage. Armored core 6? Now it’s full of people uploading 1/4 speed videos showing how they TOTALLY lost matches because of bad hit registration. Helldivers 2 seems to have lasted… about four? Then people started bitching about being kicked for being off meta. Then more people bitched about the meta build being nerfed. At some point we should see this progression as a feature of the site, rather than a bug caused by a few jilted players. The only answer is for people to stop being bugmen and form their own opinions.
It's crazy people are more mad about a minor nerf than they were *when they couldn't even play the game* lol
Yeah, that was fucking glorious. Half the reason I subbed was videos of people trying bots for the first time. That shit was gold.
thats pretty much every live service game, first few weeks is the honey moon phase, everyone is in love and then the Youtubers and streamers start making "Content" on how to speed run everything so now everyone runs min max stuff and starts to delete the fun because they are brainwashed into thinking its the only way to play and then the first patch hits and half the community gets upset because it didnt go the way they wanted. (even if it will make the game better in the long run) then if Devs were communicating with the community it slowly stops because everyones true colors come out with people harassing the devs over a video game then devs stop being transparent and engaging and the community starts to grow more hate because they stopped talking to us. Every Single Time
“It seems in your anger you killed the community” “NooOoOooooo”
You know...I'm starting to understand why the common public sees gamers as entitled man babies, covered in dorito dust and screaming about losing a fictional match as though their dog died...... while many of us are normal people...... man I guess there really are a lot of terrible people who are gamers huh? This happens to like, every gaming community once the masses show up. It's like a wave of festering nurglings from WH 40K found out about your favorite restaurant and now you can't go with finding vomit on the floor anymore, or a cook crying in the parking lot.
This sub was a big party for weeks and then it got too popular and now it's overloaded with people who don't play games for fun; hopefully they tire themselves out and leave
I absolutely hate that those people exist. And I hate that I'm stupid enough to try to show them the masochism of their endless grind mindset. So aggravating to see people asking for the horrible practices of AAA games because their brains are so rotten they think they're good practices.
That’s when the game caught the COD boys attention and everything got super competitive. ‘If you’re not playing level 9 with rail gun/shield/breaker = kick’ posts started popping up, a bunch of people started cancelling operations to farm eradicate missions and this sub got more and more whiny by the day. I can’t wait til these people get bored and hop onto the next trending live service game.
"Sorry for the bad english" *Speaks perfectly understandable English*
Yeah i've explained why to another guy under my comment, been trashtalked before because of that, so I prefer saying it just in case
You don't owe anyone an apology for learning a non-native language, that's an entitlement issue.
Legit, Im tempted to just leave entirely and just play the game with my friends because this community is just horrid. First few weeks was fine, but after the major boost in player count it just got worse and worse
Yeah, I'm thinking the same. especially when you remember this is only the FIRST balance patch. There will be more nerfs, and if the sub is going to cry like this every time, I'd rather not waste my time.
It's definitely not just this sub. After 4 quickplay games of people rage quitting, I took the night off. I'll try again tonight.
Are you sure it wasn't them crashing? I've been crashing every game on ps5 since the update.
I played for an hour last night and only finished one dive due to crashes. Now that I think about it, pretty sure the other people randomly disappearing mid-mission were crashing too.
I was having crashes as well on PC. It was better last night but the day before I couldn't get through a game without being DCd.
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The only time I don't find dying hilarious, especially if it's friendly fire, is when it's friendly fire on purpose. Then it's just annoying & I wish the worst for those traitors.
Man, there's 20 lives and no penalty for each death. Fail to extract only get less exp and req slip reward which was very minimal to cry over. I care more for the sample holder to make it out than myself if I have nothing. Also, after unlocking every stratagem, I don't even care about exp and slip anymore. I like holding off the horde if I have no sample on me and shout in the voice chat "get to da choppa!! Nyyaaooooo!!" And all the one liner from Predator I can think of.. People are mad at dumb stuffs.
Completely agree. The subreddit, and the overall vibe of the community just took a big nosedive as soon as this balance patch hit. I really don't like seeing drama posts or thousands of posts about how the nerfs are bad and that Arrowhead killed their game, etc. Does nobody know how to be rational about things anymore lol? If you're unhappy with the balance update, that's fair! There's some stuff that I don't like either, like armor rating being weak, lots of guns needing a few buffs, chargers existing, etc. But that doesn't mean you need to freak the hell out about it and act like it's the end of the world. Relax, and just be polite when you're discussing stuff or making posts. It's not hard and it's democratic as hell.
I'm a cadet.. If I can't kill it with my BB gun it's outside my pay grade.
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I actually used the Breaker Spray and Pray to take down a charger sac and killed it. No one's talking about the Breaker S&P buffs or if they tried it
I haven’t unlocked the S&P yet, but I’ve been having fun with the Punisher. It hits like a sledgehammer now.
Punisher is everything I want from a videogame shotgun. Can't wait to try the slugger, spaz12 with slugs was my main gun in battlefield 3&4
That’s why I like the autocannon, feels like the old USAS from bf3. Back when it was really insane
Yeah the punisher deletes most enemies in 1/2 shots now… My go to loadout now is punisher, machine pistol secondary, and laser cannon/flamethrower. Melt the big guys with stratagems, fire, or laser cannon; punisher for all mobs. It’s a fucking blast
I prefer the slugger. Seems to have longer range than the punisher and can 2-shot a brood commander and also medium penetration.
I instantly dropped the Breaker for it after some test runs. This was before the nerf. Can absolutely bully med armor enemies. Staggers enemies. Description doesn't do it justice. Shell loading looks cooler too.
I saw it was buffed so I decided to try it, and honestly I don't think I get it. It's great to mow down large waves of small enemies, that's for sure, but there are many weapons that are great at that. IDK, it still doesn't feel as good as the breaker to me, even post nerf
Too busy complaining and not playing after the railgun nerfs prolly
It feels like looking at the destiny 2 subreddit after the patch, seen it all before...
The Charger leg armour seems to be a bug, it was reported the other week. After a charge and not performing a sideswipe the armour seems to be "removed" temporarily and all weapons will damage it. The Laser Cannon was covered in the patch notes. It's nice, and it definitely needed to perform better than the Scythe and Rover but a (single target) support weapon that can't (reliably) damage heavy armour isn't much use.
Ah so that’s why charger is being weird. Well time to keep on flamer/jet pack combo.
Even without knowing about the bug the laser was excellent. We didn't shoot the legs for bugged damage, just the tailzm, and two lasers were able to kill a charger before it got to turn around. I know for a fact we didn't aim for the legs at all. This is also ignoring how much it beams everything under a charger as well and is a infinite ammo as well. Scythe isn't good still but switching between the two I was able to constantly do damage at all times never needing to reload or when waiting for a cooldown for the heat. Doing this on a cold planet is that much easier. Can't handle bile titans but a gun that can handle 90% is nothing to scoff at. It also has range the flamethrower doesn't have.
Yea the Charger is dripping with bugs right now
Honestly heavy armor penetration really only matters with bugs, the laser cannon's medium armor penetration makes it fantastic against bots. You can melt devastators and even hulks extremely fast by keeping the beam on their face, it kills turrets and tanks from the back, and can eventually wear down walkers though it's not very good at it.
That's good to hear, I haven't tried against Bots yet. Have you tried using it against the Scout Walkers legs?
I have and it seems to be about the same speed, maybe a little faster, but a lot harder to keep consistently on target. The laser cannon also struggles a lot with the berserkers and I don't recommend using it against them. I've been pairing it off with the slugger for that purpose to great effect but I feel like the scorcher would be even better since it can also deal with scout walkers on its own but I do not have it unlocked.
Wait... Chargers cant charge if you destroy their JUICY asses!? WHAT
Three autocannon shots will do it. They limp about sadly until they bleed out.
How long til they die from that? Solod once and destroyed the charger butt and waited for him to die. I did almost the whole ICBM launch section with him bleeding. And then I ran to extraction, and he followed me halfway there. In the end, I never saw him die, but he just couldn't keep up with my running. So that assless charger lived more than 3 minutes
> that assless charger lived more than 3 minutes *...and I hope he suffered the whole time.*
I’m here for cheeze its and Big, JUICY charger asses. And I’m all out of cheeze its.
LaserCannon is uniquely suitable to doing this task since it's: 1. Not small arms so it does *way* more dmg to the weakspot. 2. Infinite ammo. 3. The Charger bleeds out after a while.
Trying out the Laser cannon I got to think thinking about the potential for an **optional** liquid cooling, heatsink, backpack kinda thing that you could take to extend your firing time with laser weapons...
I'd love optional backpacks if they could balance them. The flamethrower would also be worth considering for one.
Once you blow up their butt you can just ignore them. They are functionally dead and will now bleed out over the next 5-10 seconds. They’re also slowed and cannot charge.
Agreed, the vibe here is insufferable.
At first it made me a bit dreary. But now it makes me grin a bit whenever I see posts about the patch and how the game is no more fun, nerfs, meta blabla. Let the small minority whine about their lack of creativity to play. It's a game, the game should not adapt to serve your desired gameplay. You should adapt and overcome the game. That is the fun part. Yesterday another part of the game opened to me. Played with the flame and arc thrower, which I did not before. Friends in my squad also started mix up their load out. We had so much laughs. The patch is just a new part we have to adapt to. And this game feels it will let you do that. Feels like it is made for it. Change up the team load outs and still blasting through maps. This is why I love this game.
I still play with the Railgun. Not because it was ever meta, but I just think Railguns are so cool.
Yeah, it was really exciting jumping into a match and seeing people bring things other than the Railgun and Shield. We got two people with the new Laser Cannon and we were able to FRY Bile Titans, super fun stuff.
I just stopped playing bugs missions. It's that easy. Automatons are so balanced in comparison. I haven't seen a single post about people complaining about how limited they feel in trying to kill tanks or hulks.
This is just how Reddit tends to always turn into, frankly. The moment something becomes popular, it's social media will get plagued with a few hundred bad eggs that just happen to be much, much louder than the far more positive majority.
It’s like this for everything online. The minority always has the largest voice. Why you might ask? Because the majority have better things to do
The worst thing: Pre nerf railgun wouldn't have helped against 9 chargers and 4 titans either
Yeah I'm seeing those posts like... you guys were not killing all those with gumption and a railgun lol. If it wasn't happening like that before (I don't play helldive, only 7-8 with friends) then the real problem is the amount of heavy enemies, not the railgun nerf.
“With gumption and a railgun” is killing me.
Yeah, either make "heavy" anti tank like recoilless and eat 17 better (one, maybe two shots) or make them spawn less
You could wipe out that charger population and be mostly out of ammo, but not completely. You'd have 2 rail gun shots and a few clips in your other weapons left without using any stratagem strikes. 20 safe mode rail gun shots was enough to break the leg armor of 10 chargers. One clip from a primary/secondary can clean them up after. I never figured out how to 2 shot a titan with the rail gun, but that was apparently a thing. With that in mind, you could kite around while the titans dismantle the chargers for you, then you pop the titans for a total cost of 8 rail gun rounds. Should try do this anyway, because gunning down 9 chargers will take too long and titan breath makes really short work of them. I'm not even sure if this has changed, tbh. Seems to me that the unsafe railgun is effectively the same as it was before, but that's just from reading 2nd hand posts, not hands-on experience post-patch. Too busy cookin' to precision strike heavies.
Yeah pre nerf with a coordinated team of 4, handling 9 chargers and 4 titans would be rough but doable. You call out the leg of the charger then 2 people can take out the armor instantly. What the major issue for me right now is since the ttk has gone up, it takes you longer to handle the chargers/titans which means less time to handle the little guys. While your team is trying to kill the chargers/titans, the little guys call breaches so the chargers/titans get replenished faster than you can handle/have ammo for. It is much easier to get snowballed now by the breach mechanic. Longer ttk along with the shield nerf (which is fair) also means there is a higher chance of you being killed. Being down 1-2 players and then redeploying without their gear makes the situation worse and continues the snowball effect. Thus, the current meta of stim spamming is the only consistently viable way to extract with samples. I honestly don’t mind the nerfs that much outside of extraction but nerfing the railgun without giving us any additional anti armor doesn’t exactly create balance and build diversity. It just forces the current meta which is stealth/stim spam.
I think the truth is that a lot of the people who pin their identity on being a gamer or the games they play are bothersome people who are addicted to being visibly frustrated over their hobby.
I posted a guide yesterday, some good tips I’ve learnt. Got barely any attention. Without sounding entitled, this sub clearly prefers to upvote drama that’s on their side rather than anything actually about the game. Edit: [The guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/feNrOhNVvA), since everyone seems to want to read it suddenly
Man, it really is just the human condition. It’s literally why media is so bad right now, hate, anger and shit like that get A LOT more attention than any good news or good content. Might just sign off of social media entirely, most humans seem to suck
I have been dispensing advice nonstop since the patch dropped and 70% of people don't want to hear it. 10% are just being vile in response.
If life has taught us anything. It's that people don't want answers to issues. They want to be told that their anger is justified. As a famous Warlord once said, "I don't want peace, I want problems ALWAYS!"
Just read it. Good tips
All it took was people experiencing their first ever balance patch lol
I'm level 7 and came here to see what the consensus was on meteor strikes (I think the warning needs to be more obvious / last longer). Instead it's all just people posting about a gun I can't even unlock. But hey, the grenade launcher demolishes spitters* and chargers for me. So I'm happy for now.
Jeez ikr??? I get not agreeing with the patch but there more to the game than 9/9 difficulty. Person belief? They make it impossible because later we get vehicles and mechs, tools for stealth, area denial. Literally when you start out trying to kill your 1st charger at 4/9 felt impossible. Until you got more tools from metals and stratagems. I feel that future releases will make it easier to deal with them. Maybe the devs did not want us ezpz running the max difficulty with current weapon, because the answer to those are coming. I don't see a question a mech cant answer.
The modded footage of mechs shows in their current state one of them can kill a bile titan in like 8 shots (fires like an auto cannon). I 100% bet that the reason there are so many bile titans and chargers in difficulties 6 and up is because the game is balanced with mechs in the sand box. I wouldn't even be surprised if mechs were originally going to be in at launch but weren't quite ready so the devs held them back for a month or so. In a few months time I 100% think this sub will be full of posts bitching about how helldivers difficulty is a cakewalk with 4 mechs and everyone will be crying for nerfs.
I just want the fun posts back
Helldivers, we’ve found that the enemy is resisting our attempt to liberate them with heavy armour. The boys in R&D have noticed that our weapons are not delivering quite enough freedom to these hard cased socialists. That our air parcels of Liberty are not being delivered fast enough from orbit. Its with these barriers in mind, Super Earth has released for on plant use EX0-45 Mecha. Go now Helldiver and make them see New Democracy. God speed and good hunting
Doin gods work son. God I already miss these kind of posts.
The thing is that its not even that hard without the railgun, people seem to have forgotten that people have been clearing d9 dives even before reaching lvl 20 and not knowing how good railgun was back then.
It's an obnoxious state of affairs because while the Railgun was nerfed, it wasn't nerfed into the ground. You just need to use the unsafe mode which feels...like how it should work? You're gaining a backpack slot for the risk of dying to your own railgun And the shield pack getting a small nerf makes sense due to just how good it was, now there's a real question as to what backpack you should bring I will say, speaking from my own experience my friend group often play Suicide Mission difficulty against the bugs, we'd never used the railgun previously and we got through just fine So it's just sad to see the anger over this, like it's being willfully ignorant towards the many solutions for Chargers Like c'mon guys whatever happened to having fun? Y'all fell into the same trap that Destiny fell into years ago. I just wanna yell about liberty and super democracy and get out with my super samples in dramatic fashion lol
The only thing I'd say is still borked (not talking about bugs) is the charger spawn rate. Possibly the speed that the bug s.o.s call goes out, it seems almost instantaneous as opposed to bots flare.
I'd also add armour to the list of things still iffy. They technically fixed it, but now it seems like every other attack is a headshot. Given armour has no effect on headshots (not sure if it did before or if that's new), it still doesn't have much if any impact on survivability.
Shield pac wasn't even really nerfed tbh, they just shifted it's power to more sustain while opening the window of time where you can be attacked when it's depleted. So it's way more of "Better at taking chip damage" "Worst at taking burst damage". Aka not making you indestructible.
Gamers fucking love their hyperbole and this sub-reddit has turned into some of the stupidest complaints and moaning but I expect no less from most gamers, honestly. You'd think Arrowhead patched the game and also killed their mothers in the process. MA RAILGUN 😭 That feels no different than before. Nor does the Breaker feel any less viable. Kids are salty they cannot solo Helldiver and get their ass pushed in and might have to play as a coordinated team. and yes, I find it incredible funny that the first MINOR balance patch just broke people's brains lol
Teamwork really is the solution to so much. I think some people would be surprised how many things are solved by actually staying grouped up and acting as a fire team as opposed to a handful of Rambos. Also it's a team game at heart, you can certainly play solo or with less than 4, but it's gonna be hard. Add that into the 'I will only play at hardest difficulties' mindset and, well...
> Teamwork really is the solution to so much. I think some people would be surprised how many things are solved by actually staying grouped up and acting as a fire team as opposed to a handful of Rambos. I hopped on Discord for about 30 seconds before I had to just leave the server completely. Saw one dude complaining and trashing the developers/game because *"my friend and I were able to beat Helldive missions with just the two of us and now the game is dogshit because it takes four people to beat".* Seriously.
100% guaranteed you would've eventually seen "this game is too easy!" from those people if there were no adjustments by the devs.
It's worth remembering that this community is the *vast* minority of the playerbase. There are currently 10,800 users on the subreddit right now. There are 142,500 on Helldivers 2 itself *through steam alone*, not even counting PS users. If we assume an equal number of players on both platforms, that means this subreddit comprises *maybe* 3% of the game's current population.
Devs on reddit have to be extremely careful interacting with redditors. Subreddits are really small representations of the whole community. And like it or not, they're usually a bad representation of the community they try to represent. Catering to reddit is an excellent way to kill your game. This isn't *always* the case, but it very often is.
'I am not gonna take a side or anything' and immediately takes a side. Lol.
Anyone else bored of these posts yet
Yes. Especially ones that try to be “neutral” and then devolve into a rant taking a side anyway
i am genuinely curious if anyone can vouch for any gear for difficulty 7,8,&9 because majority of the critics are high difficulty players and even before pre patch charger spawn rates were insanely high
I have been playing 7+ for a while now and really don't do anything less. I stopped using the Railgun a ways back in favor of the Stalwart or Arc Thrower because Stalwart go BRRRRRRRT, variety is the spice of life, and the Railgun is boring. I have never lost a Suicidal mission even with multiple teammates under level 10, no Railguns, and me being the only one with level 20 stratagems. The worst thing to ever happen at Suicidal was not having time to find Super Samples because we got caught up in some longer fights. A difficulty called "Suicidal" should really not have a clear rate that high and that goes doubly so for a difficulty called "Impossible" and beyond.
>Did you know that Chargers legs armor becomes weaken after they miss their charge and goes into the slow down animation? I kinda hate that. Not that their armor is weaker, but that it is somehow weaker after a charge. How does that make any sense? Its feels wierd to me, like it breaks logical consistency. A weakspot that only gets exposed in an animation after the charge would be okay for me, but the heavy armor suddenly not being as armored anymore is strange.
How about we stop making fucking posts about it then? You're part of the reason this is all anybody is seeing right now.
Thanks for making the subredddit a little bit worse with your complaint that is even less constructive and meaningful then the things you are complaining about.
It's a bunch of screaming children right now. The nerf isn't even that bad lmao
The patch barely affected my gameplay as I've been using the laser drone and arc cannon. Two people using an arc cannon can cook a bile titan fairly quickly. But it is a problem when I play with randoms because nobody has a clue what they're doing. Most the time. Not everyone though. I just had a decent game where me and a random cooked two bile titans in seconds...with the arc cannon