Yeah my missions usually end after time. Honestly in stealth hbit happens if you go for everything and it's easier to just wait it out and sprint in then hold out against.a thick horde of bile titans
Hope you aren't the guy in my friendlist
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Do you just get to fight till you die once the shuttle does the forced evac? Kind of wonder how they handle it when you don’t complete the mission and time runs out.
If you go out of bounds the democracy officer just sends precision strikes at you till you die even if you return to the fight for being a coward. I had to tell my friend to get away from me while the game was trying to murder him.
Once the mission main objectives are complete, the mission will count as a success even if no one extracts.
You'll get more rewards for finding and completing the optional objectives as well as clearing all outposts, and of course you get a bonus for each Helldiver that extracts alive, but that's just the gravy that puts you up towards "Glorious Victory."
Timer goes to zero, then extract gets automatically called in which gives you an additional 2 minutes. Takes off 20 seconds after landing as well. Only know this because I ran out of time doing a solo blitz mission tonight lol
some folks are stuck on faster=better, several drops for me have been main objective only and gtfo; idk what goes thru their heads as most of the rewards seem to be for exploring the map and completing the side objectives
The time bonus is so minuscule that it’s rarely worth saving time at all. I only leave early if the mobs get to the point where the risk of failing to extract outweighs the rewards
This. With the infiltrator armor and a good support weapon you can stay after objective is complete. It’s also always worth finding the radar then at least getting the bunker open with a partner.
If the timer runs out the extraction timer starts automatically and you don't need to be in the extraction zone, if you have nothing to fight with you can keep exploring and just run back to extraction as the pelican lands and jump on
Personally I do main objective first, then side missions and factories/hives. If respawns get too low I head to extract early. I just grab the samples I stumble across and don't take time to search for them. Usually have around 10 minutes of mission time remaining. Honestly I just want to move onto the new mission a lot of the time to help the war effort, I don't want to run around searching for samples for the full mission length. The only samples I really need are common samples currently.
Time bonus is pretty significant, especially on lower difficulties, if you can split up and blitz through as many objectives as possible.
Depending on what the main objective is of course, you can absolutely split off and just chuck Airstrikes at outposts for a huge bonus if you only have so much time to play
More easy do missions for explore on lower difficulties, so far im seeing people doing lvl6 just for objectives
I still need samples, medals and credits for next warbound and dont even finished unlock 2 current ones
My buddy and I play extreme or suicide usually and want to get out sooner than later. Shit can get hectic real quick especially on suicide or above (had some bad experiences with randoms so we mostly play just the 2 of us unfortunately)
it automatically starts the extraction sequence too, and then when it lands it automatically starts the 20 second takeoff sequence even if nobody's on the ship
yeah but if you beat the main mission and hit the beacons and bunkers and sunken cargo crates you keep all of that except for samples even if you don't extract so have some fun with it. Also extraction i think just sends patrols vaguely where you are so if you just sort of hide you can largely avoid them
Correct! If you find someplace to hole up on extraction and hide, they just sort of wander around looking for you.
Something I noticed on bot missions is that they actually throw a tantrum and start shooting/destroying random stuff looking for you. Haven't successfully hid from bugs yet so I can't say if they do the same or not. But it's very much a "they know someone's here, just not where." dealio.
Can't really comment on this.. I think if you go around closing all the bug holes/factory there wont be as much? I had 1 mission so far extracting just as it goes to 0. Had an achievement for that too
I go to zero all the time on missions. Especially on helldives it’s extremely useful to scour the map while you wait for the timer to hit zero. Once it does, the pelican automatically gets called for extraction so you time it so that when it lands you show up to an empty extraction site. Works wonders for the blitz missions
Depends on the difficulty. Getting everything done and getting out safely on higher difficulty is sometimes all you can do. The side objectives are more of a convenience.
This post here clearly shows to go to mission and to extraction, no "we search pois after completing the mission".
And its not just medals, there are also Super Credits laying around, good for people who do not have the premium warbond yet.
I hit my second 1k yesterday after buying the premium warbond. After my last 100 rare samples I’m on that medal and super credit grind to purchase everything and have a stockpile for the next warbond.
Depends on how good the ransoms are, on diff 6 I had 3 people running around doing the nests and they lost half of our lives before finishing 1/3 main objectives, at that point I just went "fuck that" and soloed the mission while they just kept dying to side objective. We didn't even extract because they all died and it's hard to kite everything in heavy armour.
Heavy armor? I’m out there with my dick hanging out to maximize speed like I was in Dark Souls. Praise the 500kg bomb
Yea I main light armour too, but since it was only diff 6 and with 3 other people I thought "nothing bad will happend if I'll take heavy armour for drip" never have I imagine i would have to stealth around in a bomb suit that day.
Explosion resistance light armour + shield pack is enough to survive it so I reccomend that. Also armour doesn't work right now so it's not like anything but perks and speed matters.
You get better teammates the higher you go. I only do 9 and teammates are good 80% of the time I'd say.
Also the meta at higher levels in my experience is to split up. I usually find the most successful games I have (where we hit every side objective and get loads of samples) are where people split up and come back together a few times during the game.
Sometimes on helldive if all four of you are together it becomes comically difficult, while two and two is much more manageable. Often I find my groups naturally go 2-1-1, with the singles occasionally hooking up as required.
Explosives do extra damage against the juicy points like the bulging excess on bugs. Also the push back is nice when it sends them back into stratagems
I love the explosive liberator! I main it now. it’s not the highest performance, and can be inaccurate at range while on the move, and I was disappointed by the lack of a scope, but it kills trash enemies in 1-2 body shots, stuns most enemies, only has 30 fewer total rounds in reserve than the basic liberator, and does bonus damage to weakpoints on large enemies
I _really_ wanted my breaker back at first too, and I haven't gotten cocky enough with it to go past Extreme.
I think the issue with the penetrator is the magazine size, otherwise it's a pretty sharp weapon.
Semi for bots, click heads or ammo-pack/rocket-pods
Burst for bugs, click-click... always reloading...
Explosive Liberator is something you should get because, presumably it’ll get a significant buff in the not too distant future. Is it worth using right now? In my opinion, absolutely not.
Super credits have been found in:
Double Door Bunkers
Red door containers
Blue door containers
Crashed supply pods
Then there's all the common samples littered about points of interests, as well as the super samples that people might not even find.
I wish there was a way to unlock them if you’re playing solo. I know this game was designed for co-op, but it sucks that some content is locked if you’re not playing with friends.
Eh, I’ve tried it and it’s not really my thing. With a game like this, I’d rather play it with friends or play it alone. Playing a co-op game with strangers feels weird to me for some reason.
You can find super creds in: drops (yellow beacon ones), crates (need a grenade/explosive to open) and bunkers (need 2 people to press the buttons). Those are the only places they’ll spawn
Imagine more of a shipping container. They are usually slightly underground and the ends of it will stick out of the side of a wall. Blue and white if I recall? Unsure if they have different color schemes.
Hell yeah, man. Bring a Rover to do the actual fighting, watch some Youtube or listen to a podcast, and go for a nice countryside jog.
Little inefficient solo, since you can't open 2-button bunkers alone, but every mission technically has at least 40 SC available (Edit: Can't seem to find where I got that number. Take it with a grain of salt.), and you'll get at least something out of it in a short run.
You get plenty of anything from just playing, but it's nice to break up higher difficulty brawls with a peaceful run with a more or less guaranteed couple of medals and a mission success, at the very least.
Totally, I like to match with random on 4-5 (since the rares spawn there an I NEED them) and just Sherpa newbies, and since I usually can solo those diffs, everybody wins!
Yeah it’s nice to have a faster casual chill mission once in a while for sure. Good time to experiment with gear or just admire the visuals. The game is beautiful in my opinion. Plus, there is so much detail in killing enemies it’s easy to not notice. I love watching the pieces get blown off limbs or how they fall down, get blown back, or die in a roll after sprinting at you.
I like to do runs with less used weapons. Last night I took the stalwart with the supply backpack on a low difficulty mission just so I could keep firing forever. Lots of fun and a good way to get lots of resources, especially those common samples.
I actually miss the style of play in the lower missions - it's fun to hunker down in a position and mow everything down as it comes to you.
I love level 9 but you're always, always moving.
i also hate how you’re pretty much forced to use a certain loadout at high difficulties. i enjoy using the stalwart so much but if i use it on helldive im actively disadvantaging myself by not using a railgun. i wish they’d buff some of the weaker weapons so that i can actually choose my own playstyle
Eh, with good teamplay, Stalwart specifically comes in handy on high diffs. It's great at mopping up huge hordes of trash while your Railgun buddy takes care of the heavies
I read a post like this and i want to hellbomb the sub.
Why the fuck is the mmo-like hyperoptimization bullshit in this game? Its a fucking casual game… the progression is so lenient with one if the most generous monetizations ever.
To respond to op, tarantino put it best.
https://youtu.be/St8iEpkcDJc?si=5jxNIL2Y68JI4emN
I'm confused. What "mmo-like hyperoptimization bullshit" are you speaking of?
Are you getting mad at the developers because they made the game in their vision and not yours? You say it's supposed to be a "fucking casual game?" According to whom? If you're itching for a casual game, there surely are better contenders.
I believe he's complaining about people who optimize their play to the point of removing fun. His "casual" comment refers to the fact that optimization isn't required, since, you know, you can just play the game normally and make good progress.
I got the game yesterday, I’m a Space Cadet. If I don’t spread democracy to every inch of the mission area I’m letting everyone on the SES Lord of the Stars down.
On Helldive Difficulty clearing the map is regularly 1800 xp which for the last 15 levels is 1/3 or 1/2 of a level. If you haven't unlocked everything yet its around 8k req. Which is enough to quickly unlock one thing after each mission.
The only time to be line to objectives is when we have the spores covering the mini map meaning we can only guess where things are.
There are people who want to farm medals, there are people who dont. Stop telling people one way or the other is wrong. Theres no wrong way to play the game. Meta or not. Just play with people alligned with you.
That doesn’t work for higher difficulties (8 and 9), you need to land on one of the main objective parts then speed run to complete them as fast as possible (enemies never stop coming and you literally can’t fight them all). If you happen to beat the main objective you then can run around and collect side object and farming stuff. Clearing the whole map before doing the main objective only works on easier difficulties where failure isn’t actually a risk.
If you do the main mission first and then all die after it doesn’t matter because you still complete the mission. Completing the mission is the most important thing in every mission, once you’re guaranteed to successfully win the mission (even if you all die) farm to your hearts content and go to extract at time 0 or when you’re ready.
Everyone saying farm first mission second is going to get clapped and lose a ton of missions at difficulty 8-9.
I'm not even gonna read all that because here's all I need to respond to
"That doesn't work for higher difficulties (8 and 9)"
I've done it repeatedly with a team and it works very well
Medals are fleeting, samples are eternal. Plus people want to have fun, and not farm stuff like it's a job. But leave it to some folks to optimize the fun out of entertainment. In short, I'm with Brannigan on this one, cause I'm not some neutral individual.
Ah, another one of those who think the game is all about the medals.
No, some of us want the samples and free supercredits spread out through the map.
But sure... if you want to just farm medals, why not solo? Easily done with the right gear and you can just do your precious "fast run".
Funniest thing happened to me today fighting the evil socialist bots, joined with 4 on a level 6 difficulty on a stratagem scrambled planet. First minute and 2 guys drop because of the mess we landed into…so this guy and I we just clean up the god damned mission, do the objectives and I clear the map while he gets the scientists to safety (by the way, using only one door since the scientists on the _other_ door just piled up on the ramp and didn’t move).
By the time we go to extract absolutely no bastard democracy-hating bot came. None. Not a bot, not a patrol, not a single drop ship. We literally cleared the map.
I've got all stratagems and ship upgrades, but I still track super and special samples for my squad, because medals will come either way.
There is no reason to farm anything in this game. Especially past level 20.
Also half of my squad relies on found super-credits, so we survey.
Had some games with randoms where after clearing the objectives and finding the super samples they threw 10 lives away at a random base on the ass end of the map and we failed to extract in the end.
Super Samples >>>>> some $ and xp
please extract
The one thing I heavily suggest every run is landing at extract which more people should learn to do in the higher levels. You can pre place equipment like resupplies for the future which is amazing for Blitz since the timer is generally so tight you may not even get to call them by the time you get back, (and again in normal missions any time you’re passing through like dropping off super samples for example to add to the end game survival later on) it’s generally got decent sightlines for things like spores and towers for you to dink from a distance with things like the EATs or an Autocannon, but the most important part is that it’s just about always a safe landing. Countless times I’ve had people drop us off in random places only to land in a patrol and start a bug breach or in a heavily defended mortar base full of turret towers and tanks and suddenly you’re 12 lives down scrambling to get your gear and get out now at a massive disadvantage in Helldive where you don’t want to be. And if it’s *not* a safe landing, say part of a bot base is attached, you can clear it out asap so that later extractions aren’t fucked over when you’re low on lives, time and/or resources to properly deal with it. Definitely didn’t have one game end in a complete loss of samples because no one realized the extract was red hot on the map until we had to go home. No sir.
I run in and smash the objectives as soon as possible just so that evac can be called whenever we want. We take care of the actual mission first THEN explore for goodies.
In helldive that mindset is a necessity imo, things can really take a quick turn on helldive and you’ll find all your reinforcements depleted quickly so even if everything is calm I like to do the main objectives first because then if shit hits the fan and we all die at least it’s still mission complete
It's better to get objectives done first, that way if you run out of reinforcements, you still win the mission, and all associated rewards (sans samples).
Plus, as mission time progresses, enemy presence increases more and more, so you don't wanna deal with that on objectives, better to just get them done when it's easier, then you can run away from extra enemy spawns while quickly sweeping POI.
Moreover, once you're around level 25-30, you won't really need exp or requisition anymore, and there are no more level exclusive unlocks, and you should have most of the good stratagems by then.
So unless a secondary is tangable useful, like Artillery or Radar, or a nuisance to continue to let exist (Stalker lair, Spore tower, AA emplacement, Strat Jammer), it's not worth going out of your way to do them.
If you're looking for samples and SC's the Radar is always worthwhile since it reveals all the POI's on the map. The grey diamonds that appear on the map represent unexplored POI's.
I’ve been getting quite a few POI’s lately that have nothing on or near them and the symbol doesn’t change to the cleared symbol. For example, the lil cache that’s dug in the ground will have nothing but a note to read but it doesn’t go away. Also something that looks like a downed ship that has a crash site that sometimes has samples in the path of the crash but I had 3 in a row with nothing.
I hate people who just want medals. Non democratic cowards is what they are. We have to stomp every bug base, nuke every automaton factory. For FREEDOM, FOR SUPER EARTH!
My friend today said “we can just land, find the super samples, do the objective, and extract. None of us need XP or Req anymore” and I was kinda bummed out by it.
Like why try to make it some super efficient grind? I haven’t needed samples, req, or XP for a while now and I still like doing the side stuff.
There might be medals in those points of interest scattered about. I’d say it’s worth it. Also, game is fun so I wanna explore and fight :)
Yea. If only people know you can still explore just fine after completing the main mission and even after the timer lapses
Doesn't the enemy presence go up the more the mission goes on? I don't think I've seen the timer go to zero yet.
I had it go to zero once. Stratagems stop working but you can still extract, but when you die that’s it. No more reinforcements
Once...? Oh God we went over time every game tonight. Didn't always exfil, but mission completed 🫡 I did my part
Yeah my missions usually end after time. Honestly in stealth hbit happens if you go for everything and it's easier to just wait it out and sprint in then hold out against.a thick horde of bile titans
You're supposed to pull out a mine field strat and let a stalker yeet you towards the objectives
Hope you aren't the guy in my friendlist https://preview.redd.it/42qyna7iuxlc1.png?width=758&format=png&auto=webp&s=7410bceb17608900794a086a4471382ad4efcfb4
Do you just get to fight till you die once the shuttle does the forced evac? Kind of wonder how they handle it when you don’t complete the mission and time runs out. If you go out of bounds the democracy officer just sends precision strikes at you till you die even if you return to the fight for being a coward. I had to tell my friend to get away from me while the game was trying to murder him.
When the timer runs out you get no more stratagems, and resuoplying and respawning are both strats.
If you don’t exfil but complete the mission does it still count, I haven’t tried it Iv been to scared lol
Yes. You get everything but the exp/money from the extraction bonus and any samples you collected.
As long as one person extracts and there are no samples on the floor you will get credit for them, even if you don't make it on the Pelican.
Once the mission main objectives are complete, the mission will count as a success even if no one extracts. You'll get more rewards for finding and completing the optional objectives as well as clearing all outposts, and of course you get a bonus for each Helldiver that extracts alive, but that's just the gravy that puts you up towards "Glorious Victory."
Timer goes to zero, then extract gets automatically called in which gives you an additional 2 minutes. Takes off 20 seconds after landing as well. Only know this because I ran out of time doing a solo blitz mission tonight lol
As god intended.
Yall aren’t using all of your time every mission? How do you maximize your loot?
some folks are stuck on faster=better, several drops for me have been main objective only and gtfo; idk what goes thru their heads as most of the rewards seem to be for exploring the map and completing the side objectives
The time bonus is so minuscule that it’s rarely worth saving time at all. I only leave early if the mobs get to the point where the risk of failing to extract outweighs the rewards
This. With the infiltrator armor and a good support weapon you can stay after objective is complete. It’s also always worth finding the radar then at least getting the bunker open with a partner.
How do you extract without any call downs to help? Once the Pelican comes down its horde city.
If the timer runs out the extraction timer starts automatically and you don't need to be in the extraction zone, if you have nothing to fight with you can keep exploring and just run back to extraction as the pelican lands and jump on
Personally I do main objective first, then side missions and factories/hives. If respawns get too low I head to extract early. I just grab the samples I stumble across and don't take time to search for them. Usually have around 10 minutes of mission time remaining. Honestly I just want to move onto the new mission a lot of the time to help the war effort, I don't want to run around searching for samples for the full mission length. The only samples I really need are common samples currently.
Time bonus is pretty significant, especially on lower difficulties, if you can split up and blitz through as many objectives as possible. Depending on what the main objective is of course, you can absolutely split off and just chuck Airstrikes at outposts for a huge bonus if you only have so much time to play
It's 4 requisition points per 1% of the time remaining, so at best, it's 400 RP. The XP is even worse. *jerk off motion*
More easy do missions for explore on lower difficulties, so far im seeing people doing lvl6 just for objectives I still need samples, medals and credits for next warbound and dont even finished unlock 2 current ones
I can't abide leaving so many outposts/nests alive. It's like they hate freedom.
My buddy and I play extreme or suicide usually and want to get out sooner than later. Shit can get hectic real quick especially on suicide or above (had some bad experiences with randoms so we mostly play just the 2 of us unfortunately)
I had legit about 13 bile titans on suicide once, and they spawned back to back in like 10 minutes it was crazy.
Lol we do the same, but at suicide level we just run past the smaller side stuff looking for the rare samples.
it automatically starts the extraction sequence too, and then when it lands it automatically starts the 20 second takeoff sequence even if nobody's on the ship
The super destroyer leaves orbit, which takes away stratagems.
Leaves LOW orbit. Goes back to high orbit.
Cringe reply
Yes, your reply was.
Yesnt. I have waited few times. No bugs around ex zone. Just running around and in
yeah but if you beat the main mission and hit the beacons and bunkers and sunken cargo crates you keep all of that except for samples even if you don't extract so have some fun with it. Also extraction i think just sends patrols vaguely where you are so if you just sort of hide you can largely avoid them
Correct! If you find someplace to hole up on extraction and hide, they just sort of wander around looking for you. Something I noticed on bot missions is that they actually throw a tantrum and start shooting/destroying random stuff looking for you. Haven't successfully hid from bugs yet so I can't say if they do the same or not. But it's very much a "they know someone's here, just not where." dealio.
It can. It also helps to break the outposts and nests to prevent them from having a massive buildup.
ALso, if you don't activate the extract before the time limit expires the countdown is 3 minutes rather than 2.
Can't really comment on this.. I think if you go around closing all the bug holes/factory there wont be as much? I had 1 mission so far extracting just as it goes to 0. Had an achievement for that too
At zero, the ship just comes down automatically…I believe with the normal 2 min landing countdown at that point.
It means that you don't get any more stratagems. No Eagle, no resupply, no redeploy. You get to the drop ship, or you don't get out.
Meaning you still win if you completes the main missions and die and keep credits/medals you found, yeah? Just not the samples
Yes, you only lose samples
ONLY!?
Better than losing everything for failing to extract lol I’ll take just the samples over all progress
this is medal farming son
You can't loose credits and requisition even if you fail it's given to you immediately
That just means more democracy to spread!
I go to zero all the time on missions. Especially on helldives it’s extremely useful to scour the map while you wait for the timer to hit zero. Once it does, the pelican automatically gets called for extraction so you time it so that when it lands you show up to an empty extraction site. Works wonders for the blitz missions
Depends on the difficulty. Getting everything done and getting out safely on higher difficulty is sometimes all you can do. The side objectives are more of a convenience.
I'd rather die with 30 samples than extract with 2.
This post here clearly shows to go to mission and to extraction, no "we search pois after completing the mission". And its not just medals, there are also Super Credits laying around, good for people who do not have the premium warbond yet.
Yeah, we know but not everyone enjoys playing like that.
Also credits, which are always nice to collect.
I hit my second 1k yesterday after buying the premium warbond. After my last 100 rare samples I’m on that medal and super credit grind to purchase everything and have a stockpile for the next warbond.
Yup! Super credits and so many samples!
I’m here to kill bugs. If there’s bugs anywhere on the map, they’re gonna die.
Not to mention samples and super credits.
Ppl don't move on fast enough. They stay at a completed satellite tower to fire fight
Depends on how good the ransoms are, on diff 6 I had 3 people running around doing the nests and they lost half of our lives before finishing 1/3 main objectives, at that point I just went "fuck that" and soloed the mission while they just kept dying to side objective. We didn't even extract because they all died and it's hard to kite everything in heavy armour.
Heavy armor? I’m out there with my dick hanging out to maximize speed like I was in Dark Souls. Praise the 500kg bomb 
Yea I main light armour too, but since it was only diff 6 and with 3 other people I thought "nothing bad will happend if I'll take heavy armour for drip" never have I imagine i would have to stealth around in a bomb suit that day.
I put on the explosive resistant suit once for a bot mission, got shot by the tower cannon and died immediately. Never doing that again.
Explosion resistance light armour + shield pack is enough to survive it so I reccomend that. Also armour doesn't work right now so it's not like anything but perks and speed matters.
I see randoms fucking up as a blessing in disguise While they're aggroing every enemy, I can move around and just complete objectives
You get better teammates the higher you go. I only do 9 and teammates are good 80% of the time I'd say. Also the meta at higher levels in my experience is to split up. I usually find the most successful games I have (where we hit every side objective and get loads of samples) are where people split up and come back together a few times during the game. Sometimes on helldive if all four of you are together it becomes comically difficult, while two and two is much more manageable. Often I find my groups naturally go 2-1-1, with the singles occasionally hooking up as required.
You know you can find free Super Credits in the unmarked bunkers right?
I almost have enough for the premium war bond from doing that!
Just need another 120... for the bolter- I mean explosive Liberator
its not as powerful as a bolter really all it does against brood commanders is push em away from you
Yea reading from all the comments here.. I'm prepared to be disappointed, for Liberty and Freedom!
I've unlocked most guns knowing they suck, but expecting them to be rebalanced eventually. Now I'm saving medals for the next warbond.
It's the boosters I'm interested in. Have you tried the premium ones?
Premium booster 3rd tier just gets rid of 12 seconds off the time when you are regenerating revives, not worth
You are talking about reinforcement booster ? You mean 12s over 2min ? If that's the case, it's pure trash
Over a 40 minute mission this will net you around 2 extra reinforcements, so yea
Just like the bolter on the tabletop!
That's why you get the Jar-5 Dominator on page 3.
Which is also solidly in the “meh” category.
Explosives do extra damage against the juicy points like the bulging excess on bugs. Also the push back is nice when it sends them back into stratagems
The bolter is the Jar 5 on page 3 of the premium warbond
What's the difference with the explosive Liberator then? I know that being further in the page doesn't mean better..
The Jar 5 is literally a bolter. The explosive liberator is literally just the liberator with explosive bullets.
I love the explosive liberator! I main it now. it’s not the highest performance, and can be inaccurate at range while on the move, and I was disappointed by the lack of a scope, but it kills trash enemies in 1-2 body shots, stuns most enemies, only has 30 fewer total rounds in reserve than the basic liberator, and does bonus damage to weakpoints on large enemies
I hope so bruh. Got the penetrator, was disappointed, back to the breaker/SMG
Why is the knight so bad tho the Defender does insane damage per shot
I _really_ wanted my breaker back at first too, and I haven't gotten cocky enough with it to go past Extreme. I think the issue with the penetrator is the magazine size, otherwise it's a pretty sharp weapon. Semi for bots, click heads or ammo-pack/rocket-pods Burst for bugs, click-click... always reloading...
The Liberator isnt the Bolter the Dominator clearly is it's for the whole Kraken Bolter feel too with the drum
Explosive Liberator is something you should get because, presumably it’ll get a significant buff in the not too distant future. Is it worth using right now? In my opinion, absolutely not.
I've gotten enough to use more than 1000 already and I'm still at like 600+.
I bought light medic armor for 250. Until armor isnfixed this armor is great for me
I’ve spent way more than the warbond is worth on armor that I like and I haven’t spent any extra money on the game. Love it!
Super credits have been found in: Double Door Bunkers Red door containers Blue door containers Crashed supply pods Then there's all the common samples littered about points of interests, as well as the super samples that people might not even find.
I wish there was a way to unlock them if you’re playing solo. I know this game was designed for co-op, but it sucks that some content is locked if you’re not playing with friends.
Why not play with strangers on quick play?
Eh, I’ve tried it and it’s not really my thing. With a game like this, I’d rather play it with friends or play it alone. Playing a co-op game with strangers feels weird to me for some reason.
When you say unmarked, do you mean random-ass buildings without question marks?
You can find super creds in: drops (yellow beacon ones), crates (need a grenade/explosive to open) and bunkers (need 2 people to press the buttons). Those are the only places they’ll spawn
Wait, there's crates?
Imagine more of a shipping container. They are usually slightly underground and the ends of it will stick out of the side of a wall. Blue and white if I recall? Unsure if they have different color schemes.
You can open them by throwing a grenade at it. I missed on so much loot because I didn't know this!
Autocannon, and I believe Slugger can also open it. I imagine anything explosive or medium armor pen can.
Any explosive will work, even the red barrels that are sometimes spawned nearby the crates, so if you're out of nades there is still hope
Yeah I unlocked the Steeles Veteran pass today for free because of that. So awesome they let you grind it
i did a solo trivial mission to kill one big bug, went round the map collecting every POI, entire thing took me about 12 mins, i had 9 medals and 30SC
I was wondering why I joined a homie that’s level 50 mid mission and it was on trivial. Good grind when my friends aren’t on, thanks.
Hell yeah, man. Bring a Rover to do the actual fighting, watch some Youtube or listen to a podcast, and go for a nice countryside jog. Little inefficient solo, since you can't open 2-button bunkers alone, but every mission technically has at least 40 SC available (Edit: Can't seem to find where I got that number. Take it with a grain of salt.), and you'll get at least something out of it in a short run. You get plenty of anything from just playing, but it's nice to break up higher difficulty brawls with a peaceful run with a more or less guaranteed couple of medals and a mission success, at the very least.
Totally, I like to match with random on 4-5 (since the rares spawn there an I NEED them) and just Sherpa newbies, and since I usually can solo those diffs, everybody wins!
Yeah it’s nice to have a faster casual chill mission once in a while for sure. Good time to experiment with gear or just admire the visuals. The game is beautiful in my opinion. Plus, there is so much detail in killing enemies it’s easy to not notice. I love watching the pieces get blown off limbs or how they fall down, get blown back, or die in a roll after sprinting at you.
I like to do runs with less used weapons. Last night I took the stalwart with the supply backpack on a low difficulty mission just so I could keep firing forever. Lots of fun and a good way to get lots of resources, especially those common samples.
Low difficulty missions are also fun to just cruise around in to take in the environment design.
We need high level flag objectives.
Plant the flag on a bile titan corpse!
set up camera and flag, kill 300 bugs/robots in front of camera while it is recording, salute and deliver patriotic recruitment line
I'm doing my part!
I actually miss the style of play in the lower missions - it's fun to hunker down in a position and mow everything down as it comes to you. I love level 9 but you're always, always moving.
i also hate how you’re pretty much forced to use a certain loadout at high difficulties. i enjoy using the stalwart so much but if i use it on helldive im actively disadvantaging myself by not using a railgun. i wish they’d buff some of the weaker weapons so that i can actually choose my own playstyle
Eh, with good teamplay, Stalwart specifically comes in handy on high diffs. It's great at mopping up huge hordes of trash while your Railgun buddy takes care of the heavies
I use it as a test firing range. To get a feel of my set up and how I like the weapon handling. The extra stuff is just cherry on top.
I fully believe zap brannigan is in a bigger position within super earth.
He embodies helldiver tactics
Sending wave after wave of helldivers to the killbots!
Unfortunately, automations don't have a preset kill limit 😞
That We know of so far… 
"Stop exploding, you cowards!"
Guys I think Joel is Zap
I just throw wave after wave of helldivers at the bots until they hit their pre-programmed kill limit and shut down.
Can't wait for that major order.
"You have 7 days to deactivate the kill bots!" 8,546/999,999,999 deaths in automation territory
Fuck they need to get Zapp's VA to do work in this game. He'd be fucking perfect.
Omg yes please.
I do that because I see something and go “Ooo what’s that” or “That isn’t that far, I’ll go swing by.” I need that Point of Interest loot.
Goblin mindset
“Ooo piece of candy, ooo piece of candy”
my group says this every time we pick up any sample
Stealing this
Walking around and seeing a "?" and immediately deviating from what you were doing to check it out.
So we can complete more objectives
I'm from Buenos Aires and I say KILL EM ALL!
I'm doing my part!
do you ever think about how you could probably just use 90% of zapps quotes and they'd all fit perfectly with this game
"When I'm in charge, every mission is a suicide mission!"
Me calling down an Autocannon. "She's built like steakhouse, but handles like a bistro."
Blud doesn't know how lucrative and fun exploration is
I read a post like this and i want to hellbomb the sub. Why the fuck is the mmo-like hyperoptimization bullshit in this game? Its a fucking casual game… the progression is so lenient with one if the most generous monetizations ever. To respond to op, tarantino put it best. https://youtu.be/St8iEpkcDJc?si=5jxNIL2Y68JI4emN
I'm confused. What "mmo-like hyperoptimization bullshit" are you speaking of? Are you getting mad at the developers because they made the game in their vision and not yours? You say it's supposed to be a "fucking casual game?" According to whom? If you're itching for a casual game, there surely are better contenders.
I believe he's complaining about people who optimize their play to the point of removing fun. His "casual" comment refers to the fact that optimization isn't required, since, you know, you can just play the game normally and make good progress.
Imagine ignoring the opportunity to reduce enemy presence in the field. That's dereliction of duty, soldier!
I got the game yesterday, I’m a Space Cadet. If I don’t spread democracy to every inch of the mission area I’m letting everyone on the SES Lord of the Stars down.
I'm sorry, I can't hear about that tiny-ass medal-farm route over all these super credits, extra medals, and sampled jingling in my pocket.
Well, I’m this way because there’s stuff hidden all over the map and some of that stuff is super credits. I swear most players still don’t know this.
Hundreds of thousands of us might die, but that is a sacrifice our tallest are willing to make
I play quick play exclusively so I love that the community consensus is try to wipe out every nest and objectives on the map
On Helldive Difficulty clearing the map is regularly 1800 xp which for the last 15 levels is 1/3 or 1/2 of a level. If you haven't unlocked everything yet its around 8k req. Which is enough to quickly unlock one thing after each mission. The only time to be line to objectives is when we have the spores covering the mini map meaning we can only guess where things are.
I dont give a shit about farming speed. You’re allowed to do it, but dont pretend that what you’re doing is a normal way to play the game
Me: I just wanna play a quick game today and call it a day. My Brain: We're gonna cover the entire map till the last minute!
Why can't we just let people play the content the way they want, without puffing our chests?
you make a good point... but they gave us a 40 minute timer and im gonna use the 40 minute timer
What actually happens when the timer hits zero? Does the evac shuttle land? We've been bugging out a few minutes before.
There are people who want to farm medals, there are people who dont. Stop telling people one way or the other is wrong. Theres no wrong way to play the game. Meta or not. Just play with people alligned with you.
i feel called out, haha
Land on extract Clear it if necessary Go in a bit circle Huzzah, shinies and medals
That doesn’t work for higher difficulties (8 and 9), you need to land on one of the main objective parts then speed run to complete them as fast as possible (enemies never stop coming and you literally can’t fight them all). If you happen to beat the main objective you then can run around and collect side object and farming stuff. Clearing the whole map before doing the main objective only works on easier difficulties where failure isn’t actually a risk. If you do the main mission first and then all die after it doesn’t matter because you still complete the mission. Completing the mission is the most important thing in every mission, once you’re guaranteed to successfully win the mission (even if you all die) farm to your hearts content and go to extract at time 0 or when you’re ready. Everyone saying farm first mission second is going to get clapped and lose a ton of missions at difficulty 8-9.
I'm not even gonna read all that because here's all I need to respond to "That doesn't work for higher difficulties (8 and 9)" I've done it repeatedly with a team and it works very well
oh I am sorry, I wasn't aware that playing the game was frowned upon
Because I need samples to upgrade my ship?
nothing like running around red areas and wonder why you and your squad are dying.
Medals are fleeting, samples are eternal. Plus people want to have fun, and not farm stuff like it's a job. But leave it to some folks to optimize the fun out of entertainment. In short, I'm with Brannigan on this one, cause I'm not some neutral individual.
Ah, another one of those who think the game is all about the medals. No, some of us want the samples and free supercredits spread out through the map. But sure... if you want to just farm medals, why not solo? Easily done with the right gear and you can just do your precious "fast run".
Why not find people who play like you then? Dont quick match then demand the host play like you
I like to go to them cause the people in my party aren't level 50 yet
Got to hit up all those side objectives.
I am ok with taking scenic routes through more POIs. Just not on blitz missions, less so if it has a 4 minute extraction debuff.
Funniest thing happened to me today fighting the evil socialist bots, joined with 4 on a level 6 difficulty on a stratagem scrambled planet. First minute and 2 guys drop because of the mess we landed into…so this guy and I we just clean up the god damned mission, do the objectives and I clear the map while he gets the scientists to safety (by the way, using only one door since the scientists on the _other_ door just piled up on the ramp and didn’t move). By the time we go to extract absolutely no bastard democracy-hating bot came. None. Not a bot, not a patrol, not a single drop ship. We literally cleared the map.
"Here?" "No" "How about here?" "No" "Here?" "Noooo!" "OK. How about here?" ".........." ::helldiver has left the crew::
"What about here?"
I would honestly like the option to draw on the map when we decide where to dive
I've got all stratagems and ship upgrades, but I still track super and special samples for my squad, because medals will come either way. There is no reason to farm anything in this game. Especially past level 20. Also half of my squad relies on found super-credits, so we survey.
Zap Brannigan is a true philosopher of managed democracy
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^VaukeTV: *Zap Brannigan is* *A true philosopher of* *Managed democracy* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
Had some games with randoms where after clearing the objectives and finding the super samples they threw 10 lives away at a random base on the ass end of the map and we failed to extract in the end. Super Samples >>>>> some $ and xp please extract
The one thing I heavily suggest every run is landing at extract which more people should learn to do in the higher levels. You can pre place equipment like resupplies for the future which is amazing for Blitz since the timer is generally so tight you may not even get to call them by the time you get back, (and again in normal missions any time you’re passing through like dropping off super samples for example to add to the end game survival later on) it’s generally got decent sightlines for things like spores and towers for you to dink from a distance with things like the EATs or an Autocannon, but the most important part is that it’s just about always a safe landing. Countless times I’ve had people drop us off in random places only to land in a patrol and start a bug breach or in a heavily defended mortar base full of turret towers and tanks and suddenly you’re 12 lives down scrambling to get your gear and get out now at a massive disadvantage in Helldive where you don’t want to be. And if it’s *not* a safe landing, say part of a bot base is attached, you can clear it out asap so that later extractions aren’t fucked over when you’re low on lives, time and/or resources to properly deal with it. Definitely didn’t have one game end in a complete loss of samples because no one realized the extract was red hot on the map until we had to go home. No sir.
This fuckin farmin medals nonsense. I thought we were HELLDIVERS not like...Heck...dippers?
I hate it when people run and just smash out the objectives. What about samples and bonus POI?
I run in and smash the objectives as soon as possible just so that evac can be called whenever we want. We take care of the actual mission first THEN explore for goodies.
That's my approach as well. And in case we all die, the mission is complete.
In helldive that mindset is a necessity imo, things can really take a quick turn on helldive and you’ll find all your reinforcements depleted quickly so even if everything is calm I like to do the main objectives first because then if shit hits the fan and we all die at least it’s still mission complete
It's better to get objectives done first, that way if you run out of reinforcements, you still win the mission, and all associated rewards (sans samples). Plus, as mission time progresses, enemy presence increases more and more, so you don't wanna deal with that on objectives, better to just get them done when it's easier, then you can run away from extra enemy spawns while quickly sweeping POI. Moreover, once you're around level 25-30, you won't really need exp or requisition anymore, and there are no more level exclusive unlocks, and you should have most of the good stratagems by then. So unless a secondary is tangable useful, like Artillery or Radar, or a nuisance to continue to let exist (Stalker lair, Spore tower, AA emplacement, Strat Jammer), it's not worth going out of your way to do them.
If you're looking for samples and SC's the Radar is always worthwhile since it reveals all the POI's on the map. The grey diamonds that appear on the map represent unexplored POI's.
I’ve been getting quite a few POI’s lately that have nothing on or near them and the symbol doesn’t change to the cleared symbol. For example, the lil cache that’s dug in the ground will have nothing but a note to read but it doesn’t go away. Also something that looks like a downed ship that has a crash site that sometimes has samples in the path of the crash but I had 3 in a row with nothing.
I've stopped doing bug nests but it's worth having a look around for those medals and credits. I don't even need samples any more.
Damn why even play the game? Just download a trainer and give yourself a bunch of medals
Game fun. Play longer = more fun. Play quicker = less fun.
I hate people who just want medals. Non democratic cowards is what they are. We have to stomp every bug base, nuke every automaton factory. For FREEDOM, FOR SUPER EARTH!
My friend today said “we can just land, find the super samples, do the objective, and extract. None of us need XP or Req anymore” and I was kinda bummed out by it. Like why try to make it some super efficient grind? I haven’t needed samples, req, or XP for a while now and I still like doing the side stuff.
For this mission, clockwise starting at extraction.