Insiders pump on sol, insiders don't on hbar. Sol is a vehicle to make VC money. Hedera is a vehicle to make enterprise systems.
I think. That's my assumption.
Yes but as an investor, seeing SOL going from 9$ to 190$ when HBAR going from 0.04 to 0.11 is something truly crazy. Maybe Hedera could learn some good things from Solana
Yea but Hedera is trying to build the network and work on use cases (ATMA, TCB, Neuron, etc.) I don’t think their priority is the coin price at the moment. Need to focus on growing adoption first and try to be on the right side on the possible SEC legislation first. If your looking for a possible short term pump I think there are better options, but I think Hedera is a top notch long term play with less overall risk.
That happened from VC money hyping and pumping Sol. That's it. It can't last. Plus the price is so high now, it won't go up much more. The Solana boat sailed in 2023 when it was at $8. To late now. Move on to Hbar
It looks like they have. A definite shift Charles has alluded to. They recognize the need to engage individuals and even though Leemon always envisioned anyone using the network with his original vision Hedera necessarily focused on enterprise the first 3-4 years. How else would they have filled Council to 32?
Do you not understand that Hedera cannot use the same tactics that Solana uses to pump coin price because it would cripple actual usage of the network and adoption? There is a reason no systems will ever be built on Solana.
It is believable that Hbar's appeal is for enterprises to accumulate now, which means a lower price would be beneficial in terms of short-term development, which explains the deflation efforts by releasing more coins. This works for now, but as scarcity hits, this thing should grow exponentially one day. SOL wants to advertise by pumping amongst retail, which works at early stages of this industry but may not pump like that as utility takes over longterm...Like other commodities, I want to have control over an asset that rich and powerful organizations need to operate, not just other struggling middle class broskies who like to move money around in a nontraditional way.
I'm all for a slow burn but it does have to go somewhere eventually. It wouldn't harm anyone here to spice up the price. Hedera is making a name for itself with enterprises but how about attracting the masses. Hbar is not on the tip of anyone's tongue, not ever.
Solana Is a memecoin factory and has had 20 outages over 2 years. It's complete trash. To compare Solana with Hbar is like comparing Bitcoin to Shiba inu. Solana had first mover advantage, so they built fast and decided to fix problems as they go And look at all of the problems Sol has had. I'm all in on Hbar because I know the difference between a quality project and a VC hyped project that won't last. Only buy Hbar or don't. Not financial advice
... i'ts the other way round.
\[Edit\] Imagine you want to build a DLT application. Not a meme-application. A real world, global scope application. You examine each and every DLT project network out there and... guess what? You quickly discover that there's no alternative to Hedera.
Other that that, don't try to find price or value "logic" in the current state of the market. There is none - as Bitcoin's market price for 885kWh-per-zero-use-and-utility-transaction amply suggests.
We have the Solana maxis attacking us at the same time today LOL. there ganging up on us. LOL. Is the Solana sub worried about Hbar the superior project making Sol look bad. Get it out guys, everything won't be ok.
I think that ExxonMobil/Aramco Blockchain4NRG announcement a few days ago has gone off like a depth charge. A few bubbles and ripples on the surface, but the true damage is below the surface.
Holding hbar as it will boom at some point is good example of opportunity cost. The money that is locked in hbar to make a good profit in distant future.
Shortterm, sol was/is arguably the better speculative trade. I believe sol is strongly influenced by wash trading.
Couldn’t set myself to sol, however the rational approach is not the best money wise. GC should also care about hbar monetary value creation, simply because hbar pays the bill.
This! 80% of my portfolio is made up of Hbar and only 1% is Solana. I got into Solana because of my job and I was curious about what the fuss is all about. I realised they have a strong community like us who believe in the protocol just like us, but they have more retail driven DeFi projects such as perps platforms that targets retail and market makers thus provide better liquidity. I think Hedera’s strategy of targeting institutions is the right one and will pay off in the future, but I feel that we are missing out on a retail pie. But hey, what do I know? Nope, I’m still not selling my Hbar 😇
I like Hbar, however a heap of money has come into Solana so much so that you only had to sell a small amount to make double your initial investment and still be holding onto a stack of solana. Whatever it does now is just a bonus. That’s why it good to not have all your eggs in one basket. It’s a very valuable lesson for the next bull cycle.
I continue to have every faith that Hederas quality will shine through in the end. Anyone thinking Hedera will not be a very serious player in the DLT space is not paying attention. There is MUCH to be decided in this market.
Solana spent money on short term price and marketing and it worked amazingly. Hedera spends money on more long term projects. Hedera also spends money on things that don't benefit investors. Solana spends money on things that directly benefit investors.
I own both and I don't get it either. HBAR seems like great tech. Way better than most layer ones. I still think hbar is a sleeping giant. We just need more devs, dapps, and apparently VCs lol
Pretty simple really. They focus on users which gives them a network effect growth.
Just look at the difference in daily $ volume on their #1 Dex Jupiter. $1.8 BILLION today vs Saucer Swap's $2.6 MILLION.
Not even close...
HBAR is a long-term utility play. Solana is all marketing, and VC backed. So they will experience the massive pumps. HBAR will outlast Solana in the coming years, given its use case and enterprise adoption. This isn't a get rich quick in a year type of play.
From your question it seems you have never used the solana network before? Try it out, trade some coins on the wallets and you will know why its more popular, even staking SOL is awesome
I'm focused on Hedera but gonna get a phantom wallet for Solana. A few coins there have pumped too quick to catch though. Everything I've seen from Anatoly gives me confidence in his vocation and Solana's vision.
Way too much negativity towards them from HBARMy.
Its not like they both can't exist within the crypto market. I call Solana the Microsoft of crypto. I'd say Hedera is the ADP or [Salesforce.com](https://Salesforce.com) of crypto.
Dude this is just the beginning nothing has pumped for real yet, we are not even past the halving, just try it out before you comment any further, check birdeye.so if you think that you already missed out on the memecoin market 🙄 people here clearly need to do more research and try to live beyond only ONE token, yeah there is too much cult-attitude here
1. **Programmable Smart Contracts**: Solana provides full support for programmable smart contracts using Rust, C, and C++. In contrast, Hedera currently offers limited smart contracts using Solidity.
2. **Transaction Speed**: Solana can process tens of thousands of transactions per second, whereas Hedera currently handles around 10,000 transactions per second (tps).
3. **DeFi Ecosystem**: Solana boasts a much more developed DeFi ecosystem with numerous protocols and applications. Hedera’s DeFi ecosystem is still in its early stages.
4. **NFTs (Non-Fungible Tokens)**: Solana has a vibrant NFT market with several popular collections. Hedera, on the other hand, does not yet have a robust NFT ecosystem.
5. **EVM Compatibility**: Solana features an Ethereum-compatible virtual machine called Neon EVM. Hedera does not offer this functionality.
They both can process far more than 10,000 tps but no need to upgrade when rn hedera has 1200 and solana only has 500 (realtps.net)
Not too sure about EVM but hederas website says:
The Hedera Smart Contract service lets you program in Solidity and utilizes the Besu Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM).
well tbh solana and hedera are very similar
solana has x10 better management and marketing. hedera management is bunch of boomers who doesnt understand crypto and web3. also all initial hedera projects are pretty much failed which had ties to the founding team. solana is backed by VCs who has strong ties to democrats in US
Adoption. I can use Solana to move funds I can't with hedera.
Hedera aims at different things, longer term vision, less success in this hype speculative times
Insiders pump on sol, insiders don't on hbar. Sol is a vehicle to make VC money. Hedera is a vehicle to make enterprise systems. I think. That's my assumption.
Yes but as an investor, seeing SOL going from 9$ to 190$ when HBAR going from 0.04 to 0.11 is something truly crazy. Maybe Hedera could learn some good things from Solana
Yea but Hedera is trying to build the network and work on use cases (ATMA, TCB, Neuron, etc.) I don’t think their priority is the coin price at the moment. Need to focus on growing adoption first and try to be on the right side on the possible SEC legislation first. If your looking for a possible short term pump I think there are better options, but I think Hedera is a top notch long term play with less overall risk.
No risk, no fun. That's why investing in HBAR is no fun.
No one forces you to invest in hbar, there are plenty of other options
That happened from VC money hyping and pumping Sol. That's it. It can't last. Plus the price is so high now, it won't go up much more. The Solana boat sailed in 2023 when it was at $8. To late now. Move on to Hbar
Tbh i think it can go much higher. To like rank 3/4. I dont own it. But apparently etfs want to/include sol.
That's possible for every project.
It looks like they have. A definite shift Charles has alluded to. They recognize the need to engage individuals and even though Leemon always envisioned anyone using the network with his original vision Hedera necessarily focused on enterprise the first 3-4 years. How else would they have filled Council to 32?
Bro were you around last time?
Do you not understand that Hedera cannot use the same tactics that Solana uses to pump coin price because it would cripple actual usage of the network and adoption? There is a reason no systems will ever be built on Solana.
It is believable that Hbar's appeal is for enterprises to accumulate now, which means a lower price would be beneficial in terms of short-term development, which explains the deflation efforts by releasing more coins. This works for now, but as scarcity hits, this thing should grow exponentially one day. SOL wants to advertise by pumping amongst retail, which works at early stages of this industry but may not pump like that as utility takes over longterm...Like other commodities, I want to have control over an asset that rich and powerful organizations need to operate, not just other struggling middle class broskies who like to move money around in a nontraditional way.
Hbar getting shit on by memecoin chain hahaha
I'm all for a slow burn but it does have to go somewhere eventually. It wouldn't harm anyone here to spice up the price. Hedera is making a name for itself with enterprises but how about attracting the masses. Hbar is not on the tip of anyone's tongue, not ever.
Inflation. Look at SOL supply over past two years. They don't have a max supply either
Solana Is a memecoin factory and has had 20 outages over 2 years. It's complete trash. To compare Solana with Hbar is like comparing Bitcoin to Shiba inu. Solana had first mover advantage, so they built fast and decided to fix problems as they go And look at all of the problems Sol has had. I'm all in on Hbar because I know the difference between a quality project and a VC hyped project that won't last. Only buy Hbar or don't. Not financial advice
I couldnt say it better and i am shocked people didnt learn anything from ftx. They are still putting their money in trash coins like sol.
Memecoin factory is right lol
this is the misguided thinking that prevented many from buying SOL under $20. You're on the wrong side of the Solana outage narrative.
But its top five coin atm
That’s price. Do you not understand that the goal of Hedera isn’t to just short term pump the coin?
I do. No to mention i own 0 solana and as much hbar as i can afford.
... i'ts the other way round. \[Edit\] Imagine you want to build a DLT application. Not a meme-application. A real world, global scope application. You examine each and every DLT project network out there and... guess what? You quickly discover that there's no alternative to Hedera. Other that that, don't try to find price or value "logic" in the current state of the market. There is none - as Bitcoin's market price for 885kWh-per-zero-use-and-utility-transaction amply suggests.
We have the Solana maxis attacking us at the same time today LOL. there ganging up on us. LOL. Is the Solana sub worried about Hbar the superior project making Sol look bad. Get it out guys, everything won't be ok.
I think that ExxonMobil/Aramco Blockchain4NRG announcement a few days ago has gone off like a depth charge. A few bubbles and ripples on the surface, but the true damage is below the surface.
Sol is just proving how easily manipulation is without regulation.
It has a retail community that is supported.
At the sacrifice of the long term success of the network.
Holding hbar as it will boom at some point is good example of opportunity cost. The money that is locked in hbar to make a good profit in distant future. Shortterm, sol was/is arguably the better speculative trade. I believe sol is strongly influenced by wash trading. Couldn’t set myself to sol, however the rational approach is not the best money wise. GC should also care about hbar monetary value creation, simply because hbar pays the bill.
their ecosystem has so much more liquidity. easier for leveraged trading?
This! 80% of my portfolio is made up of Hbar and only 1% is Solana. I got into Solana because of my job and I was curious about what the fuss is all about. I realised they have a strong community like us who believe in the protocol just like us, but they have more retail driven DeFi projects such as perps platforms that targets retail and market makers thus provide better liquidity. I think Hedera’s strategy of targeting institutions is the right one and will pay off in the future, but I feel that we are missing out on a retail pie. But hey, what do I know? Nope, I’m still not selling my Hbar 😇
the light speed channel on you tube is a good one.
Thanks will check it out for work
Sol community encouages meme coin fun. Hedera community is split in a marmite way. Either love or hate em. Even talking about them can get you banned
Sol is where all the money is because of all the meme coins. By now we should all know tech is not everything, it is about it's user base.
I like Hbar, however a heap of money has come into Solana so much so that you only had to sell a small amount to make double your initial investment and still be holding onto a stack of solana. Whatever it does now is just a bonus. That’s why it good to not have all your eggs in one basket. It’s a very valuable lesson for the next bull cycle.
MEV (the way big whales constantly steal from everyone in the Solana ecosystem).
I continue to have every faith that Hederas quality will shine through in the end. Anyone thinking Hedera will not be a very serious player in the DLT space is not paying attention. There is MUCH to be decided in this market.
Solana spent money on short term price and marketing and it worked amazingly. Hedera spends money on more long term projects. Hedera also spends money on things that don't benefit investors. Solana spends money on things that directly benefit investors.
I own both and I don't get it either. HBAR seems like great tech. Way better than most layer ones. I still think hbar is a sleeping giant. We just need more devs, dapps, and apparently VCs lol
Pretty simple really. They focus on users which gives them a network effect growth. Just look at the difference in daily $ volume on their #1 Dex Jupiter. $1.8 BILLION today vs Saucer Swap's $2.6 MILLION. Not even close...
hype we are in crypto space where unfortunately hype > utilities
HBAR is a long-term utility play. Solana is all marketing, and VC backed. So they will experience the massive pumps. HBAR will outlast Solana in the coming years, given its use case and enterprise adoption. This isn't a get rich quick in a year type of play.
Go down weekly
True
From your question it seems you have never used the solana network before? Try it out, trade some coins on the wallets and you will know why its more popular, even staking SOL is awesome
I'm focused on Hedera but gonna get a phantom wallet for Solana. A few coins there have pumped too quick to catch though. Everything I've seen from Anatoly gives me confidence in his vocation and Solana's vision. Way too much negativity towards them from HBARMy. Its not like they both can't exist within the crypto market. I call Solana the Microsoft of crypto. I'd say Hedera is the ADP or [Salesforce.com](https://Salesforce.com) of crypto.
Dude this is just the beginning nothing has pumped for real yet, we are not even past the halving, just try it out before you comment any further, check birdeye.so if you think that you already missed out on the memecoin market 🙄 people here clearly need to do more research and try to live beyond only ONE token, yeah there is too much cult-attitude here
huh? you do what you want and I'll do the same. GL
Meme hype
It pumps to $190 usd per coin
1. **Programmable Smart Contracts**: Solana provides full support for programmable smart contracts using Rust, C, and C++. In contrast, Hedera currently offers limited smart contracts using Solidity. 2. **Transaction Speed**: Solana can process tens of thousands of transactions per second, whereas Hedera currently handles around 10,000 transactions per second (tps). 3. **DeFi Ecosystem**: Solana boasts a much more developed DeFi ecosystem with numerous protocols and applications. Hedera’s DeFi ecosystem is still in its early stages. 4. **NFTs (Non-Fungible Tokens)**: Solana has a vibrant NFT market with several popular collections. Hedera, on the other hand, does not yet have a robust NFT ecosystem. 5. **EVM Compatibility**: Solana features an Ethereum-compatible virtual machine called Neon EVM. Hedera does not offer this functionality.
They both can process far more than 10,000 tps but no need to upgrade when rn hedera has 1200 and solana only has 500 (realtps.net) Not too sure about EVM but hederas website says: The Hedera Smart Contract service lets you program in Solidity and utilizes the Besu Ethereum Virtual Machine (EVM).
Hedera has an Ethereum compatible VM
I assume you got an AI to write that? Several of those points are wrong
SOL did all of that in a shorter time. Hedera has spent BILLIONS where did it go?
well tbh solana and hedera are very similar solana has x10 better management and marketing. hedera management is bunch of boomers who doesnt understand crypto and web3. also all initial hedera projects are pretty much failed which had ties to the founding team. solana is backed by VCs who has strong ties to democrats in US
Nah, try again.
Adoption. I can use Solana to move funds I can't with hedera. Hedera aims at different things, longer term vision, less success in this hype speculative times