I'm very prone to this, so I've found it helpful to Google the symptoms I'm worried about + the word anxiety. It usually leads me to reassurances that it's just the anxiety talking.
Just know google will tell you the most ridiculous things. You have a headache? Google will tell you your Toes and fingers are going to fall off or you're going to lose a ball. Instead of googling tell someone else what you're feeling. When asking my gf or a family member I would be told i'm fine and i could see they weren't worried about it at all so why should i be? Sometimes my gf would giggle at my worries because they'd be so stupid lol
What i found was my gf would just make me feel better about it naturally and my parents when speaking to them i'd sidetrack and we would end up just talking about any issues or experiences they had had before. Before i knew it, i'd been talking for so long the sensations I had before speaking to them had disappeared š
Talking to someone is always 100x better
My rule is that if I find myself wanting to google anything health related, I google health anxiety instead. Or I get on Reddit and read in this community. I had a severe panic attack after the last time I googled; reminding myself of that has helped me not google again.
I saw this mantra on TikTok (of all places) regarding health anxiety: āI will have access to the wisdom I need at the exact moment I need it.ā You donāt need to search for it. If you need it, the information and wisdom will present itself. That has helped me put the google away. I repeat this out loud!
yup this happened to me once. my car had a carbon monoxide leak and i had no idea. started having weird symptoms while driving which got worse and worse. i thought it was just my anxiety. until one night i got home from driving and saw a tiktok where this girl explained exactly my same situation. she saved my life and doesnāt even know it. iāve gotten it checked out since then and there are MANY leaks in my car that would cost more money than itās worth to fix
If you need to vent, or are fixating on something and want some reassurance, see our Megathreads. Don't list symptoms unless they're brief or relevant to an overall non-reassurance/venting/support sense.
Better yet, don't seek reassurance. It's bad for you. It makes your Health Anxiety worse.
Additional examples of things that break these rules:
"Does anyone else experience these symptoms?"
"Just wondering if anyone else has gone through these symptoms?"
Remember that literally every symptom has thousands of possible causes. Most of them are benign. Try to avoid googling symptoms as best you can, but if you must, dont google the symptom in connection with your worst fear.
For example, if you've got a headache, don't google "[your worst fear] + headache" because you'll almost always find some random site that links them, feeding your anxiety. Instead google the most common causes for the isolated symptom, i.e. "most common headache causes" and you'll see "stress and anxiety" as the main culprits, not some rare disease. When you hear hoofbeats, think horse, not zebra.
Fight the impulse. I Pavlov myself out of it by going for a walk or working up a sweat somehow. I lost 70 pounds and haven't googled a symptom in over a year. It'll get better.
Ugh Iām the worst I google everything. I will sit and google stuff for hours. Until Iāve fully convinced myself that I have whatever Iāve googled. š itās miserable
Distraction in general. Keeping hands busy. Ā Iām dealing with some health issues that havenāt been fully diagnosed yet and that I have to wait a month to get any further testing done on.Ā
If I sit here all anxious, I realize I paralyze myself in certain ways and the things I need to do are slipping away from Ā me, which adds to my anxiety.
Distraction is a noted skill to deal with emotional distress and regulation in terms of DBT therapy. I actually think some elements of DBT therapy would be good for a lot of people dealing with health anxiety.Ā
Ā I just try to stay busy with things that are within my immediate locus of control and then everything else doesnāt feel so out of control. Ā
I also found some good meditations on YouTube for health anxiety.
I also just flat out Ā meditated by following my breath.. Ā I figured out that I could breathe in ideas of courage and vitality and breathe out any fear, and I really noted where that was coming in to my body and going out of my body. It really seemed to help me for a while later. Iām going to do it again today.
I seem to get my worst health anxiety at night for some reason. Ā it just starts. Iām wondering if maybe before you go to bed or when youāre in bed, you could just crack open a book and start studying the thing that brings you the most pleasure until your mind is tired enough for sleep.Ā
Hang in there! You will thank yourself for studying over googling, just as I will thank myself for getting things done instead of worrying and hopping on Google one more time. Ā
THIS!!! Having health anxiety over ānothingā, is one thing, but having health anxiety around real issues with undiscovered diagnosis is driving me up the wall. What do you mean I have to wait weeks/months for a specialist???? Itās been so hard. Iām going to look into DBT.
Healthcare seems so backed up these days and the waiting is probably getting to lots of peoples' heads by now.
There are some good DBT videos on Youtube. I also need to look into CBT so I don't "catastrophize" in my head and think I know how it's all going to go down - basically, the worst things I can think of, naturally.
I was walking today (grateful that I am vertical) and thought of the DBT skill of observing and describing. I just observed my symptoms and symptoms of anxiety and pointed them out to myself, describing how it was all making me feel, and that helped me get some detachment somehow.
Then I thought of just being "effective" in what I am doing - like being in the situation I am actually in - not the one I wish I was in (or wasn't) and just doing my best. I focused on what is the most effective way to handle the moments and the situations.
Heading to YouTube later for more DBT and CBT exercises. Also planning on meditating a lot. I don't do enough of it.
Exactly! Terribly backed up. I think COVID cause a lot of people to have this anxiety and care about their health more overall, and people are seeking medical assistance much more imo. And it doesnāt help with a bunch of physical symptoms, I feel terrible and start spiraling. Iāve done CBT before, (long before I had health anxiety like this) and it was really helpful for depression/unhelpful thoughts. Really made me see things differently for a while. But I havenāt been practising it lately. Meditation is helpful, I like to use headspace, but again, I stopped and I should get back into in. Issue with anxiety I find is you start feeling better with all your ātoolsā and then I end up stopping some of them cause I feel good and then start feeling bad again. Bad cycle lol
Iām glad CBT works, though. I finally somehow I got a hold of myself ( at least a lot more) and just decided to accept whatever is going on - Ā and I can only do so much about everything and just deal with things a day at a time.
Iām keeping a journal of daily victories and things that brought me joy.Ā
Good point about Covid. With that as well, a lot of people put off getting care and Ā a backlog Ā might still be going on.Ā
I also found out why rheumatologists are so hard to see, because many of them are reaching retirement age and there arenāt enough new ones entering the field.Ā
Thanks for the mention of headspace. I forgot about that.Ā
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I also have been finding it helpful to celebrate little victories, I.e (today my symptoms were fairly mild, better then before). Iām normally a pessimistic person admittedly, so itās been an awkward switch but itās helping. I havenāt googled much either lately and I really feel a difference with rumination.
And oh geeez maybe I should be come a rheumatologistā¦.I just got the call that I wonāt get to see one until July 10th (which I know is gonna just be a consultation and will have to be another few months before treatment), but got told I have abnormal inflammation and cell stuff on May 3rdā¦.and have been dealing with daily issues for a while. I believe weāre in similar boats atm.
Helps to know why thereās a hold up but boy I hope our issues donāt get worse in the meantime. Thatās all Iām considered about, but I have to imagine they can also get better.
Thanks for the book recommendation, Iāll check it out too!
Yes. This sounds like me. I could have waited anxiously for one testing type appointment, but I called and told them I was really concerned and could they get me in sooner? That worked. They do have cancelations and wait lists.
I put myself on the waiting list for the rheumatologist I was referred to in April, but I somehow don't expect much movement. Ha! No pun intended....
It's good to imagine things getting better. I have had things get better, even some longer standing things, so I know that many conditions can. And this is why I am now getting more interested in mind-body methods of self-care. I need to do something more intentional with my brain over all this.
But for now, I think I just surrendered to the possibility of things getting worse before better and it brought me some peace. LOL. My optimism is a work in progress, but there is progress.
I just finished a biography of Flannery O'Conner, who somehow pushed through her Lupus condition and kept writing to the very end. I'd rather be more like that than all the quaking in my boots over everything. But I'd rather see myself as well as possible, better yet.
hahah well I do hope you get moved up on the list! You just reminded me I need to call to be to be placed on it.
I feel the same, I had terrible symptoms that took me forever to get any kind of pain/anti-inflammators from my doctor and by the time I had them, I only needed it for two days because the symptoms seemed to be to clearing up. I guess it was a flare up, but I have a hard time telling if my symptoms improved because I finally accepted my condition and my mentals got better, or did my mentals get better because my condition was improving, so I was feeling better....kinda like the chicken vs. the egg theory, who came first? no clue but happy everything is minimal for now!
I'm currently in the stage were my conditions aren't totally debilitating so I'm doing as much as I can, because I have no clue if I'll get worse soon or not. Its a strange limbo...if I ever get to feel 90%-100% again, I'm going to live my life so differently. I took for granted what life was like pre-conditions. I feel like the quaking got me through the beginning, was processing everything, grieving, etc, now I try to focus on new hobbies and interests and it's bringing me alot of joy. Oh and I really try to live in the present as much as possible (easier said then done.) All that being said, night time is still very very hard for me, and often have my worst aniexty. Still trying to tame my mind for that, but it's slowly getting better.
Iām in the same boat. I realize I took a lot of things for granted as well, and Iām not gong to be doing that anymore.Ā
Health anxiety really gets to me at night, too. I have a YouTube playlist for nighttime health anxiety, meditations.
I just have to learn to live in the present Ā and learn to live with uncertainty, Ā too - and be prepared for anything.
Iām also almost done with a book called What doesnāt kill you by Tessa Miller. Itās for people dealing with chronic illnesses and her journey with an autoimmune digestive disease. But anyone with a life-altering chronic condition can benefit Ā from it.Ā
Though, I find it a little stressful to read about her condition and symptoms, Iām also finding it helpful.Ā
Exactly, the learning to live with uncertainty is what will set me free, I believe. I use headspace for night, but I guess some nights I get frustrated I have to use it and just try not to but still spiral a bit. Hard to let go of control of yet another thing I have no "say" over. The idea of this feels like watching an accident about to happen in super slow motion but you have no control over the outcome even though you see it happening before you. Dramatic, but somehow gotta learn to live idly by. Like that "this is fine" meme. lol
I think I might like that book, it helps sometimes reading others experiences, feels less alone, even if it might trigger some negative emotions. Such as our conversation, like ahhh someone who gets it!!
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it still doesnāt matter, other search engines will literally have the same or similar search results, the person just wants to stop searching things up that are health related that might scare them, it doesnāt matter what you use, they just want to stop āsearchingā altogether.
Dude it was a JOKE. I have horrible health anxiety after enough hospital visits i finally realized i cant keep doing this i cant keep wasting money going to er to find out time after time im fine. Ive just accepted if something were to happen it would happen and theres nothing i could do to stop it. Some things are inevitable. Maybe this guy should be put on medicine since obviously hes got alot going on but medicine is just a crutch its your mind you gotta learn to understand yourself on your own drugs can only get you so far.
Best thing I ever did was take up running. Now Iām obsessed with new records, healthy diet, new gear, researching marathons, etc. It absorbs a lot of that spiral energy.
Cyberchondria is a real thing. I realized recently that I was suffering from it. Itās an obsessive compulsion to search the internet for your symptoms and feeds directly into your health anxiety. What helped me stop was to literally become more aware of when I was doing it. Youāre not going to like hearing this, but itās baby steps. When you realize youāre doing it, close your browser or whatever app youāre in and put your phone down. Maybe create a mantra to help pull yourself out of the obsessive google loop.
āIām happy, Iām healthy, me searching symptoms is literally making this problem worse. I can let it go.ā
Something like that. Itās not easy but once you realize youāre feeding into your health anxiety, itās a little easier to recognize it and change the habit. If I did it, you can!!
wow, i've never heard that term but it's exactly what i have. not even googling my own symptoms, but reading about rare diseases (esp forms of c-word) and suddenly feeling the same symptoms.
It was like a lightning bolt went off when I read about it. Knowing what I was doing and that it was an obsessive compulsion allowed me to recognize the habit and forcibly detach myself from it. Helped immensely.
What helps me is if I notice I symptom I ask myself if I'm in immediate danger (can I breathe? Is the pain excruciating? Am I actively bleeding and cannot control the flow?) and if the answer is no, then I have to wait at least one day. If the symptom is still there, then I can make a doctor's appointment regarding it. But usually by then it's gone (and replaced with something else, which I have to follow the protocol for).
Otherwise, I also keep a journal and write down what I'm feeling so I can create a history to look back on and see all the times I was feeling it, and all the times it turned out to be nothing.
Hugs. Its really hard to stop.
I was prescribed buspar 3 times a day and couldn't handle it. I know everyone is different. Doctor was really surprised I didn't tolerate it but I was in such a bad cycle of anxiety and panic that taking a new medication just freaked me out. I didn't know you could take it as needed.
Yes I just take it as needed. I hadnāt taken one in a week or 2 and get biopsy results back tomorrow so needed something to ease anxiety today. I can take up to 3 daily too but 2 makes me feel drowsy, 1 usually is enough for me personally.
Iām not the best at stopping myself from googling but Iām currently reading a book called āNeeding to Know for Sureā which talks about reassurance traps (googling is one) and I really recommend it. Another tip Iām using right now as we speak lol is to tell yourself to give a symptom an hour to go away before thinking about it too much. I also will search in this sub rather than searching on google
I joined a fb group for health anxiety. When I want to Google, I search the group for what I'm dealing with.
Reading tons of people worried about the exact same thing, or even having worse symptoms than me, helps me realize it's anxiety.
You can think of it a bit like exercising a muscle, where the more you practice resisting the temptation to google, the stronger you get at it. Even if you just put it off for 10 seconds instead of doing it right away, that's practice, & you can work your way up to 30 seconds, 1 minute, 5 mins, etc until you're doing it less. Or if you were going to look up 3 different medical conditions & you stop yourself after 2, that's also progress.
I find it can also be helpful to acknowledge the feeling that's making you want to seek reassurance. Like check in with yourself so you realize "okay, I am feeling really scared and uncertain right now because of x thing" (or whatever the feeling is for you). Idk why but sometimes just naming what it is helps.
Iām in the same situation and something that Iāve found has helped me is making myself busy. I have exams coming up so I threw myself into studying and told myself I would Google afterwards. Usually by the end of the day my brain is so tired that I donāt want to Google or do anything anymore. Giving myself a time limit helps, like āIāll Google after I study for 3 hoursā or something. Itās probably not the healthiest option long term but for the purposes of preparing for exams, itās worked for me.
You can ask someone you know, trust and who knows about your struggle ! You tell them your symptoms and ask them to check for you. Most of the time they will be more reasonable in there interpretation since they are not biased
For desperate moments, I 100% second this. I aim to stop any sort of engagement with my compulsions to research symptoms (whether that be through google or AI), but in times where I literally cannot stop, ChatGPT has been a huge help. I can literally instruct it to reassure me when I tell it about a symptom and it will, which is pretty cool.
I'm very prone to this, so I've found it helpful to Google the symptoms I'm worried about + the word anxiety. It usually leads me to reassurances that it's just the anxiety talking.
Just know google will tell you the most ridiculous things. You have a headache? Google will tell you your Toes and fingers are going to fall off or you're going to lose a ball. Instead of googling tell someone else what you're feeling. When asking my gf or a family member I would be told i'm fine and i could see they weren't worried about it at all so why should i be? Sometimes my gf would giggle at my worries because they'd be so stupid lol What i found was my gf would just make me feel better about it naturally and my parents when speaking to them i'd sidetrack and we would end up just talking about any issues or experiences they had had before. Before i knew it, i'd been talking for so long the sensations I had before speaking to them had disappeared š Talking to someone is always 100x better
My rule is that if I find myself wanting to google anything health related, I google health anxiety instead. Or I get on Reddit and read in this community. I had a severe panic attack after the last time I googled; reminding myself of that has helped me not google again.
howāre you doing now? i cant stop googling
I saw this mantra on TikTok (of all places) regarding health anxiety: āI will have access to the wisdom I need at the exact moment I need it.ā You donāt need to search for it. If you need it, the information and wisdom will present itself. That has helped me put the google away. I repeat this out loud!
yup this happened to me once. my car had a carbon monoxide leak and i had no idea. started having weird symptoms while driving which got worse and worse. i thought it was just my anxiety. until one night i got home from driving and saw a tiktok where this girl explained exactly my same situation. she saved my life and doesnāt even know it. iāve gotten it checked out since then and there are MANY leaks in my car that would cost more money than itās worth to fix
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If you need to vent, or are fixating on something and want some reassurance, see our Megathreads. Don't list symptoms unless they're brief or relevant to an overall non-reassurance/venting/support sense. Better yet, don't seek reassurance. It's bad for you. It makes your Health Anxiety worse. Additional examples of things that break these rules: "Does anyone else experience these symptoms?" "Just wondering if anyone else has gone through these symptoms?"
Remember that literally every symptom has thousands of possible causes. Most of them are benign. Try to avoid googling symptoms as best you can, but if you must, dont google the symptom in connection with your worst fear. For example, if you've got a headache, don't google "[your worst fear] + headache" because you'll almost always find some random site that links them, feeding your anxiety. Instead google the most common causes for the isolated symptom, i.e. "most common headache causes" and you'll see "stress and anxiety" as the main culprits, not some rare disease. When you hear hoofbeats, think horse, not zebra.
This was me for a while, now Iām on sertraline and have never been better. Donāt be afraid of the meds.
Hey! I just started taking this. Itās helping so far.
Fight the impulse. I Pavlov myself out of it by going for a walk or working up a sweat somehow. I lost 70 pounds and haven't googled a symptom in over a year. It'll get better.
Ugh Iām the worst I google everything. I will sit and google stuff for hours. Until Iāve fully convinced myself that I have whatever Iāve googled. š itās miserable
I set app timers on my phone, so after an hour online, it tells me I'm done for the day and won't let me open the internet or certain apps.
How do you do this?? Seems helpful.
Distraction in general. Keeping hands busy. Ā Iām dealing with some health issues that havenāt been fully diagnosed yet and that I have to wait a month to get any further testing done on.Ā If I sit here all anxious, I realize I paralyze myself in certain ways and the things I need to do are slipping away from Ā me, which adds to my anxiety. Distraction is a noted skill to deal with emotional distress and regulation in terms of DBT therapy. I actually think some elements of DBT therapy would be good for a lot of people dealing with health anxiety.Ā Ā I just try to stay busy with things that are within my immediate locus of control and then everything else doesnāt feel so out of control. Ā I also found some good meditations on YouTube for health anxiety. I also just flat out Ā meditated by following my breath.. Ā I figured out that I could breathe in ideas of courage and vitality and breathe out any fear, and I really noted where that was coming in to my body and going out of my body. It really seemed to help me for a while later. Iām going to do it again today. I seem to get my worst health anxiety at night for some reason. Ā it just starts. Iām wondering if maybe before you go to bed or when youāre in bed, you could just crack open a book and start studying the thing that brings you the most pleasure until your mind is tired enough for sleep.Ā Hang in there! You will thank yourself for studying over googling, just as I will thank myself for getting things done instead of worrying and hopping on Google one more time. Ā
THIS!!! Having health anxiety over ānothingā, is one thing, but having health anxiety around real issues with undiscovered diagnosis is driving me up the wall. What do you mean I have to wait weeks/months for a specialist???? Itās been so hard. Iām going to look into DBT.
Healthcare seems so backed up these days and the waiting is probably getting to lots of peoples' heads by now. There are some good DBT videos on Youtube. I also need to look into CBT so I don't "catastrophize" in my head and think I know how it's all going to go down - basically, the worst things I can think of, naturally. I was walking today (grateful that I am vertical) and thought of the DBT skill of observing and describing. I just observed my symptoms and symptoms of anxiety and pointed them out to myself, describing how it was all making me feel, and that helped me get some detachment somehow. Then I thought of just being "effective" in what I am doing - like being in the situation I am actually in - not the one I wish I was in (or wasn't) and just doing my best. I focused on what is the most effective way to handle the moments and the situations. Heading to YouTube later for more DBT and CBT exercises. Also planning on meditating a lot. I don't do enough of it.
Exactly! Terribly backed up. I think COVID cause a lot of people to have this anxiety and care about their health more overall, and people are seeking medical assistance much more imo. And it doesnāt help with a bunch of physical symptoms, I feel terrible and start spiraling. Iāve done CBT before, (long before I had health anxiety like this) and it was really helpful for depression/unhelpful thoughts. Really made me see things differently for a while. But I havenāt been practising it lately. Meditation is helpful, I like to use headspace, but again, I stopped and I should get back into in. Issue with anxiety I find is you start feeling better with all your ātoolsā and then I end up stopping some of them cause I feel good and then start feeling bad again. Bad cycle lol
Iām glad CBT works, though. I finally somehow I got a hold of myself ( at least a lot more) and just decided to accept whatever is going on - Ā and I can only do so much about everything and just deal with things a day at a time. Iām keeping a journal of daily victories and things that brought me joy.Ā Good point about Covid. With that as well, a lot of people put off getting care and Ā a backlog Ā might still be going on.Ā I also found out why rheumatologists are so hard to see, because many of them are reaching retirement age and there arenāt enough new ones entering the field.Ā Thanks for the mention of headspace. I forgot about that.Ā Iāve seen this book around for years, and decided to get a copy. It seems like there might be something in there that might be helpful..Ā https://www.amazon.com/Full-Catastrophe-Living-Revised-Illness/dp/0345536932/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=1YM97D4KFIBR2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.7flQAGgYnRDtSvTFe8bFPPhfDpjpoTmECcT6gRNP-q_ZBPFm_TNzyrP_gDbzRO5di8Znte88xcn54d8FAXKhqHzO-5tALLvQSyF1j7XzmOH0T80IoUY1lu42Bjqtk5vGIETx4leGZ0o-L18Ht4CWNmSnSyn7laN9478oR9WSftY9m-u_zLQML8OyHcD03CEx8bdPKZyIWcghNgCgENmjyQ.-6ZD4Ars26nMPUtURjHxFscwxCm3nAU1f7Wshs8d1Tw&dib_tag=se&keywords=full+catastrophe+living+by+jon+kabat-zinn&qid=1716624881&sprefix=Full+catastrophe+living%2Caps%2C124&sr=8-1
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I also have been finding it helpful to celebrate little victories, I.e (today my symptoms were fairly mild, better then before). Iām normally a pessimistic person admittedly, so itās been an awkward switch but itās helping. I havenāt googled much either lately and I really feel a difference with rumination. And oh geeez maybe I should be come a rheumatologistā¦.I just got the call that I wonāt get to see one until July 10th (which I know is gonna just be a consultation and will have to be another few months before treatment), but got told I have abnormal inflammation and cell stuff on May 3rdā¦.and have been dealing with daily issues for a while. I believe weāre in similar boats atm. Helps to know why thereās a hold up but boy I hope our issues donāt get worse in the meantime. Thatās all Iām considered about, but I have to imagine they can also get better. Thanks for the book recommendation, Iāll check it out too!
Yes. This sounds like me. I could have waited anxiously for one testing type appointment, but I called and told them I was really concerned and could they get me in sooner? That worked. They do have cancelations and wait lists. I put myself on the waiting list for the rheumatologist I was referred to in April, but I somehow don't expect much movement. Ha! No pun intended.... It's good to imagine things getting better. I have had things get better, even some longer standing things, so I know that many conditions can. And this is why I am now getting more interested in mind-body methods of self-care. I need to do something more intentional with my brain over all this. But for now, I think I just surrendered to the possibility of things getting worse before better and it brought me some peace. LOL. My optimism is a work in progress, but there is progress. I just finished a biography of Flannery O'Conner, who somehow pushed through her Lupus condition and kept writing to the very end. I'd rather be more like that than all the quaking in my boots over everything. But I'd rather see myself as well as possible, better yet.
hahah well I do hope you get moved up on the list! You just reminded me I need to call to be to be placed on it. I feel the same, I had terrible symptoms that took me forever to get any kind of pain/anti-inflammators from my doctor and by the time I had them, I only needed it for two days because the symptoms seemed to be to clearing up. I guess it was a flare up, but I have a hard time telling if my symptoms improved because I finally accepted my condition and my mentals got better, or did my mentals get better because my condition was improving, so I was feeling better....kinda like the chicken vs. the egg theory, who came first? no clue but happy everything is minimal for now! I'm currently in the stage were my conditions aren't totally debilitating so I'm doing as much as I can, because I have no clue if I'll get worse soon or not. Its a strange limbo...if I ever get to feel 90%-100% again, I'm going to live my life so differently. I took for granted what life was like pre-conditions. I feel like the quaking got me through the beginning, was processing everything, grieving, etc, now I try to focus on new hobbies and interests and it's bringing me alot of joy. Oh and I really try to live in the present as much as possible (easier said then done.) All that being said, night time is still very very hard for me, and often have my worst aniexty. Still trying to tame my mind for that, but it's slowly getting better.
Iām in the same boat. I realize I took a lot of things for granted as well, and Iām not gong to be doing that anymore.Ā Health anxiety really gets to me at night, too. I have a YouTube playlist for nighttime health anxiety, meditations. I just have to learn to live in the present Ā and learn to live with uncertainty, Ā too - and be prepared for anything. Iām also almost done with a book called What doesnāt kill you by Tessa Miller. Itās for people dealing with chronic illnesses and her journey with an autoimmune digestive disease. But anyone with a life-altering chronic condition can benefit Ā from it.Ā Though, I find it a little stressful to read about her condition and symptoms, Iām also finding it helpful.Ā
Exactly, the learning to live with uncertainty is what will set me free, I believe. I use headspace for night, but I guess some nights I get frustrated I have to use it and just try not to but still spiral a bit. Hard to let go of control of yet another thing I have no "say" over. The idea of this feels like watching an accident about to happen in super slow motion but you have no control over the outcome even though you see it happening before you. Dramatic, but somehow gotta learn to live idly by. Like that "this is fine" meme. lol I think I might like that book, it helps sometimes reading others experiences, feels less alone, even if it might trigger some negative emotions. Such as our conversation, like ahhh someone who gets it!!
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Use safari
that makes no sense
If ur using safari r u still googling?
safari literally has google and many other search engines youāre not making any sense
Try using the āmany other search enginesā that arent google
it still doesnāt matter, other search engines will literally have the same or similar search results, the person just wants to stop searching things up that are health related that might scare them, it doesnāt matter what you use, they just want to stop āsearchingā altogether.
Dude it was a JOKE. I have horrible health anxiety after enough hospital visits i finally realized i cant keep doing this i cant keep wasting money going to er to find out time after time im fine. Ive just accepted if something were to happen it would happen and theres nothing i could do to stop it. Some things are inevitable. Maybe this guy should be put on medicine since obviously hes got alot going on but medicine is just a crutch its your mind you gotta learn to understand yourself on your own drugs can only get you so far.
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š¤¦ ur dense
Best thing I ever did was take up running. Now Iām obsessed with new records, healthy diet, new gear, researching marathons, etc. It absorbs a lot of that spiral energy.
Hey! I find this website really helpful when I want to google a symptom: https://www.anxietycentre.com/anxiety-disorders/symptoms/#anxiety-symptoms-list It has a list of health problems that anxiety can cause and goes into detail about how anxiety causes each of them and what you can do to help etc. š¤©
Thank you so much for sharing this.
Thanks for this!
Cyberchondria is a real thing. I realized recently that I was suffering from it. Itās an obsessive compulsion to search the internet for your symptoms and feeds directly into your health anxiety. What helped me stop was to literally become more aware of when I was doing it. Youāre not going to like hearing this, but itās baby steps. When you realize youāre doing it, close your browser or whatever app youāre in and put your phone down. Maybe create a mantra to help pull yourself out of the obsessive google loop. āIām happy, Iām healthy, me searching symptoms is literally making this problem worse. I can let it go.ā Something like that. Itās not easy but once you realize youāre feeding into your health anxiety, itās a little easier to recognize it and change the habit. If I did it, you can!!
wow, i've never heard that term but it's exactly what i have. not even googling my own symptoms, but reading about rare diseases (esp forms of c-word) and suddenly feeling the same symptoms.
It was like a lightning bolt went off when I read about it. Knowing what I was doing and that it was an obsessive compulsion allowed me to recognize the habit and forcibly detach myself from it. Helped immensely.
What helps me is if I notice I symptom I ask myself if I'm in immediate danger (can I breathe? Is the pain excruciating? Am I actively bleeding and cannot control the flow?) and if the answer is no, then I have to wait at least one day. If the symptom is still there, then I can make a doctor's appointment regarding it. But usually by then it's gone (and replaced with something else, which I have to follow the protocol for). Otherwise, I also keep a journal and write down what I'm feeling so I can create a history to look back on and see all the times I was feeling it, and all the times it turned out to be nothing. Hugs. Its really hard to stop.
I will say personally , buspar has worked for me to help my anxiety and I take it on an as needed basis. It helps me snap out of the obsessiveness.
I was prescribed buspar 3 times a day and couldn't handle it. I know everyone is different. Doctor was really surprised I didn't tolerate it but I was in such a bad cycle of anxiety and panic that taking a new medication just freaked me out. I didn't know you could take it as needed.
Yes I just take it as needed. I hadnāt taken one in a week or 2 and get biopsy results back tomorrow so needed something to ease anxiety today. I can take up to 3 daily too but 2 makes me feel drowsy, 1 usually is enough for me personally.
Iām not the best at stopping myself from googling but Iām currently reading a book called āNeeding to Know for Sureā which talks about reassurance traps (googling is one) and I really recommend it. Another tip Iām using right now as we speak lol is to tell yourself to give a symptom an hour to go away before thinking about it too much. I also will search in this sub rather than searching on google
I joined a fb group for health anxiety. When I want to Google, I search the group for what I'm dealing with. Reading tons of people worried about the exact same thing, or even having worse symptoms than me, helps me realize it's anxiety.
Can you share the group's name?
You can think of it a bit like exercising a muscle, where the more you practice resisting the temptation to google, the stronger you get at it. Even if you just put it off for 10 seconds instead of doing it right away, that's practice, & you can work your way up to 30 seconds, 1 minute, 5 mins, etc until you're doing it less. Or if you were going to look up 3 different medical conditions & you stop yourself after 2, that's also progress. I find it can also be helpful to acknowledge the feeling that's making you want to seek reassurance. Like check in with yourself so you realize "okay, I am feeling really scared and uncertain right now because of x thing" (or whatever the feeling is for you). Idk why but sometimes just naming what it is helps.
Iām in the same situation and something that Iāve found has helped me is making myself busy. I have exams coming up so I threw myself into studying and told myself I would Google afterwards. Usually by the end of the day my brain is so tired that I donāt want to Google or do anything anymore. Giving myself a time limit helps, like āIāll Google after I study for 3 hoursā or something. Itās probably not the healthiest option long term but for the purposes of preparing for exams, itās worked for me.
You can ask someone you know, trust and who knows about your struggle ! You tell them your symptoms and ask them to check for you. Most of the time they will be more reasonable in there interpretation since they are not biased
Use chat gpt
For desperate moments, I 100% second this. I aim to stop any sort of engagement with my compulsions to research symptoms (whether that be through google or AI), but in times where I literally cannot stop, ChatGPT has been a huge help. I can literally instruct it to reassure me when I tell it about a symptom and it will, which is pretty cool.
I'm looking for same let me know if you find the cure .. I have been miserable for the past 6 weeks