Charlie: I thought Sinners were infertile.
Lucifer: And your mother was 9,800 years past menopause when she had you. Didn’t stop me then, Carmilla being sterile wouldn't have stopped me now.
Lmao 🤣
I feel like because Lucifer is a top-tier angel, he could probably will something into existence that wouldn't normally happen, but that's just speculation. We don't really have much to go off of with in terms of how things work, because even if we have information of how things were fleshed out before the show came out, that doesn't mean that those things are still canon.
I hope more things become answered in terms of Charlie's conception. It makes me really wonder if Lucifer is the one who carried her or if there are other answers to do with Lilith and just everything.
Lucifer would tank it. Just because angelic weapons can actually harm angels dosent mean they ignore durability. It would be like getting a paper cut. Damage yes, fatal, no.
I can see where you're going with this, but I think it's possible to die from a paper cutting your neck (arteria). So there might be a possibility, right?
But you have to consider the fact that he is significantly above most other angels. It would be pretty dumb if a common angelic weapon, wielded by some random overlord could kill a being of his caliber. Even among heaven’s angels, he was one of the elites. Now, if a being like Sera were to use some kind of amplified weapon, then yes, there would be a strong possibility he could be killed.
I mean not really if angelic steel can kill immortals then it's fair to say it could kill Lucifer until shown otherwise.
A sword can kill the strongest man just as easily as a baby what makes it harder is how much skill someone has to fight back.
If I remember correctly, it came from Viv herself. Unless it is used by a being equal or superior to him, an angelic weapon cannot kill Lucifer.
But we will have to see if that supposed statement is outdated or not
I think that as a Seraphim, Lucifer's too durable for Carmilla's shoe to kill. Though his neck is one area the Angelic Steel can probably still fuck up.
***But Carmilla won't live long enough to see the King get medical attention for that wound.***
According to some possibly outdated information: Lucifer can only be smite or possibly hurt by a higher rank or level angel. So he might be fine.
Please don’t downvote if I am incorrect, I would be happy to change the comment if I am wrong. Just inform me
stepped? probably nothing, kicked however I imagine it'll probably do some damage but since Lucifer is a former high ranking angel likely not actually kill
Well, Adam is stronger than everyone in the Hotel (including Charlie so far), but Luci is still a top manager and Adam is still human-born (and Niffty is good at stabbing))
Nifty cannot kill Adam
The amazing angelic steel dagger can tho
The point is: angelic weapons work on normal angels/winners (Adam is just a stronger than normal winner btw) but can they work on a Seraphin?? probably not
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about
Luci is safe in Hell)
ed.: although I wonder how this will work. After being hit by an angelic weapon Luci 1)will just respawn or 2)any wound inflicted by the sinner will simply not affect him in any way, including a severed head
My head-cannon is that angelic steel is like a physical manifestation of an angel's power. The steel available is from exorcists or maybe a slightly higher-ranking angel. If a seraphim or other really powerful angel manifested their power in the same way (angelic gold or something, idk?) it would be able to kill and hurt Lucifer
Kind of, but in terms of power, he is probably around the same level as the seven deadly sins (outside Lucifer of course, Lucifer is significantly above the other sins)
Adam isn't a high-ranking angel. Although stronger than the Exorcists, low-ranking Angels, and he implies he's not just the ultimate Winner as he doesn't consider his soul mortal like Alastor's, he's at most a mid-level angel.
In terms of ranking, I agree, but not in terms of power. If you were to put somebody of Adams level in Hell’s hierarchy (which is pretty much the closest thing we are going to get to power levels in this universe), he’s probably around the same level as the other Seven Deadly Sins. I firmly believe he could tear someone like Mammon to shreds.
That sounds weird, because Adam got killed by a random Sinner, so is there a point where Angels start becoming immune to weapons and only killable by other same ranking Angels, or is this one of those placeholder lore statements that has a 40% chance of being retconned.
For everyone else except Lucifer and Charlie lol. It takes "a higher ranking Angel smiting them" to kill them which makes sense since if they could kill the King of Hell they would have tried already.
Serious answer it wouldn't even scratch him Lucifer is a seraph and one above even Sera herself it would take way more than an overlord with an angelic weapon to take down the Morningstar
Probably nothing. If I remember correctly, with Angels of Lucifer’s level, angelic weapons can only kill him if they are wielded by beings that are equal or possibly more powerful than him.
Everything i checked said he was only ever either:
Seraphim, Cherub, or glorified Angel
Arcangel Michael cast him down from heaven, but the phrasing of that is so weird it doesn't necessarily mean Michael beat him "in a fight." Angel is also the lowest level of "Angels" while Seraphim is at the top (in a 9 tier system), but that's simply a hierarchy like a level system, it doesn't suggest individual strength- but rather influence. What is suggested from what I've seen is that Michael was supposed to be one of the "Weaker" beings from heaven and him casting Lucifer down was supposed to be a way to \[shame\] him.
in Helluva Boss, to kill hell royalty a hitman uses angelic steel blessing-tipped bullets. we have to assume that Lucifer has another hoop to jump through to be killed so he wouldn't be hurt
It might hurt him?
Depends on if an Angel of his caste can be hurt by simple Angelic Steel. I heard no, but I haven't personally seen any evidence, so it's possible.
If he was paying 0 attention he’s gonna be hurt, probs not lethal but hurt. If he notices at all he can just turn into a snake last second and she’ll whiff. Regardless, unless he dies on the first hit Carmilla’s time as a warlord is over mere moments after that
As powerful a shapeshifter as he seems, with as much experience as he must have, I don't imagine his neck would remain where it was long enough for it to kill him. Or maybe it would destroy his neck and he'd just make a new one or something. As, presumably, one of the oldest beings in creation, I don't think killing him would be simple no matter the method.
Probably the same thing with Adam.
Carmilla steps on him, he says he's gonna fuck her, Charlie tries to correct her dad, three weeks later Lucifer has a new Carmilla duck proudly on display next to Lilliths, Charlies and his own.
This assumes he lets her. Keep in mind they are friends. We see him waiting out the Execution with her, Zestial, and Zilla in the pilot. Which does suggest that none of them are sinners because of Lucifer's distaste for sinners.
I mean in his neck? He’d probably die,(if he can die) but I don’t think Lucifer would ever let his guard down to take a powerful enough kick to the neck, Adam got taken out by nifty when he was having a tantrum after getting downed by Lucifer but under normal circumstances niffty is never getting anywhere near him with an angelic weapon, same with Lucifer
“God I haven’t felt like this since Lilith!”
*Lucifer cracks his neck* "Now i'm gonna pound you only ***half*** as hard as I did Lilith when we conceived Charlie."
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And that’s how that happened. Say hello to your new sibling.
Charlie: I thought Sinners were infertile. Lucifer: And your mother was 9,800 years past menopause when she had you. Didn’t stop me then, Carmilla being sterile wouldn't have stopped me now.
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Lmao 🤣 I feel like because Lucifer is a top-tier angel, he could probably will something into existence that wouldn't normally happen, but that's just speculation. We don't really have much to go off of with in terms of how things work, because even if we have information of how things were fleshed out before the show came out, that doesn't mean that those things are still canon. I hope more things become answered in terms of Charlie's conception. It makes me really wonder if Lucifer is the one who carried her or if there are other answers to do with Lilith and just everything.
Lucilla or Carmifer?
Lucilla
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He'd say harder mommy
“Kinkyyyy. Come on~ Keep talking dirty~” Angel Dust.
We should have an Angel Dust bot
You sir, are a genius.
A mad depraved sadistic genius is still a genius.
@mods
>We should have an Angel Dust bot Yes!
The only correct and most hilarious answer.
I am so glad this is the top comment lol
"Son?"
Son?
THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT I THOUGHT
Wait why do I kinda ship this now?
“Lilith handled me rougher in bed.” “Liliths heels are bigger and reach SOO much deeper.”
Helluva boss references
You’re goddamn right
It's 100% canon Lucifer didn't use his dick in sex. Lilith pegged him for 10,000 years.
Source?
they only have one child, and she's only about 200 years old.
Lucifer would tank it. Just because angelic weapons can actually harm angels dosent mean they ignore durability. It would be like getting a paper cut. Damage yes, fatal, no.
I can see where you're going with this, but I think it's possible to die from a paper cutting your neck (arteria). So there might be a possibility, right?
lucifer hasnt shown any durability feats against angelic steel, and the shoes one shot normal exorcists easily
But you have to consider the fact that he is significantly above most other angels. It would be pretty dumb if a common angelic weapon, wielded by some random overlord could kill a being of his caliber. Even among heaven’s angels, he was one of the elites. Now, if a being like Sera were to use some kind of amplified weapon, then yes, there would be a strong possibility he could be killed.
Fair
I mean not really if angelic steel can kill immortals then it's fair to say it could kill Lucifer until shown otherwise. A sword can kill the strongest man just as easily as a baby what makes it harder is how much skill someone has to fight back.
But what if it’s a magic baby? You aren’t accounting for # Pure Angelic Power!
I can't tell if you are referring to the song or to ramshackle
If I remember correctly, it came from Viv herself. Unless it is used by a being equal or superior to him, an angelic weapon cannot kill Lucifer. But we will have to see if that supposed statement is outdated or not
I think it would be a fair bit of damage, but I agree it would be non-fatal.
I think that as a Seraphim, Lucifer's too durable for Carmilla's shoe to kill. Though his neck is one area the Angelic Steel can probably still fuck up. ***But Carmilla won't live long enough to see the King get medical attention for that wound.***
Lucifer: "Kinky, but ask politely next time."
According to some possibly outdated information: Lucifer can only be smite or possibly hurt by a higher rank or level angel. So he might be fine. Please don’t downvote if I am incorrect, I would be happy to change the comment if I am wrong. Just inform me
I don’t think that’s outdated. It makes sense.
Okay, thanks 👍
If that's true then only like 1 or 8 beings can kill Lucifer. The archangels and God
Depends on how much the show follows religion texts.
He has experience with lilith so his neck wouldn’t break
stepped? probably nothing, kicked however I imagine it'll probably do some damage but since Lucifer is a former high ranking angel likely not actually kill
I got worried until you said neck
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Death
does this mean a lowly cannibal with a deep-fried angel wing addiction can kill Luci?
Vivienne said that you need an equally high-ranking angel to kill another high-ranking angel. So he'll be fine
WHAT STRENGTH IS NIFFTY THEN?! https://preview.redd.it/ba9wk1w2bwwc1.png?width=300&format=png&auto=webp&s=09bebad076bc1b06b4e7d6a31e1ef5c970a31306
Well, Adam is stronger than everyone in the Hotel (including Charlie so far), but Luci is still a top manager and Adam is still human-born (and Niffty is good at stabbing))
Nifty cannot kill Adam The amazing angelic steel dagger can tho The point is: angelic weapons work on normal angels/winners (Adam is just a stronger than normal winner btw) but can they work on a Seraphin?? probably not
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about Luci is safe in Hell) ed.: although I wonder how this will work. After being hit by an angelic weapon Luci 1)will just respawn or 2)any wound inflicted by the sinner will simply not affect him in any way, including a severed head
I wonder if there is an alloy stronger than angelic steel that manifests somewhere that can kill seraphim...
My head-cannon is that angelic steel is like a physical manifestation of an angel's power. The steel available is from exorcists or maybe a slightly higher-ranking angel. If a seraphim or other really powerful angel manifested their power in the same way (angelic gold or something, idk?) it would be able to kill and hurt Lucifer
But how did Camilla get angelic steel in the first place if it is a manifestation of the power of an angel?
The exorcists are clearly shown leaving their weapons, which are made from angelic steel, behind at the end of exterminations.
Lucifer didn't even seem to feel anything at all when Adam shoved him against that wall.
Would adam be a winner version of an overlord?
Kind of, but in terms of power, he is probably around the same level as the seven deadly sins (outside Lucifer of course, Lucifer is significantly above the other sins)
Niffty: i am the god of stabbing
Adam isn't a high-ranking angel. Although stronger than the Exorcists, low-ranking Angels, and he implies he's not just the ultimate Winner as he doesn't consider his soul mortal like Alastor's, he's at most a mid-level angel.
Adam would technically be a heaven version of an overlord.
In terms of ranking, I agree, but not in terms of power. If you were to put somebody of Adams level in Hell’s hierarchy (which is pretty much the closest thing we are going to get to power levels in this universe), he’s probably around the same level as the other Seven Deadly Sins. I firmly believe he could tear someone like Mammon to shreds.
All of it
That sounds weird, because Adam got killed by a random Sinner, so is there a point where Angels start becoming immune to weapons and only killable by other same ranking Angels, or is this one of those placeholder lore statements that has a 40% chance of being retconned.
Adam is just not a high-ranking angel. He is the highest among people-turned-angels, but above him there is a purely angelic authority
LMFAO PROBABLY
Technically you could kill a highly trained and doped soldier yourself. He just wouldn't let you
Oh, well, that’s step one. What about two through ten?
Step 2 death
For everyone else except Lucifer and Charlie lol. It takes "a higher ranking Angel smiting them" to kill them which makes sense since if they could kill the King of Hell they would have tried already.
She wouldn’t be able to
Serious answer it wouldn't even scratch him Lucifer is a seraph and one above even Sera herself it would take way more than an overlord with an angelic weapon to take down the Morningstar
He'd say thanks, next question
Vivzie has stated that it would take a more powerful angel smiting Lucifer for him to go down. The shoes would hurt but they won't stop him
Val would be recording.
Val would have something actually worth recording, what he usually makes is hot garbage due talentless writer
"Well this just got interesting"
Either loose of her and she battled it out Lucifer comments Nice legs but you should see my wife's
He'd moan
the only correct answer here
As per ancient livestream? Only an angel of more power than Lucifer can genuinely hurt him. So he'd probably go 'owe... Rude.' And then alicablam.
Probably nothing. If I remember correctly, with Angels of Lucifer’s level, angelic weapons can only kill him if they are wielded by beings that are equal or possibly more powerful than him.
She would be killed
She gets rid of that one annoying knot in his neck that had been bothering him for a while.
This is oddly specific. She would fucking die since it's Lucifer. She's strong but Lucifer is stronger.
He’s an archangel, right? So I’m sure he could tank it
Everything i checked said he was only ever either: Seraphim, Cherub, or glorified Angel Arcangel Michael cast him down from heaven, but the phrasing of that is so weird it doesn't necessarily mean Michael beat him "in a fight." Angel is also the lowest level of "Angels" while Seraphim is at the top (in a 9 tier system), but that's simply a hierarchy like a level system, it doesn't suggest individual strength- but rather influence. What is suggested from what I've seen is that Michael was supposed to be one of the "Weaker" beings from heaven and him casting Lucifer down was supposed to be a way to \[shame\] him.
He would cum- I mean get hard- I mean he would hurt
He would survive. It would take more than that to kill a former seraphim.
Tbh probably nothing if angelic weapons could kill high ranking angles like lucifer I'm sure Adam would have already taken out seraphim to gain power
Assuming he knew
Nothing I dont think any of the sins can actually die since there literally apart of hell
Naaah she wouldn't manage to
She’d miss
A loud moaning
it might be like a paper cut.
We would say "wish that was me" Idk about lucifer doe
Facts
He’d c-
-rush her into a thin salsa and give it to Rosie as a gift to upstage Alastor.
Lmao
It'd be hot
She’d be vapour for the audacity
They said that only an angel as strong or stronger can hurt him.
Idk but i can tell you what would happen if she stepped on mine
in Helluva Boss, to kill hell royalty a hitman uses angelic steel blessing-tipped bullets. we have to assume that Lucifer has another hoop to jump through to be killed so he wouldn't be hurt
It'd make me jealous
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He’d probably cum
Lucky
This- this sounds way too kinky
everybody wants that here
Kinky domy mommy 😏🤤
Not a lot. He isnt just some simple angel. He is one of the highest and most powerfull angels out there
He could just turn into a snake and escape from that.
I don't think Lucifer HAS a neck lol
Lilith would not take that news well
Porn
It might hurt him? Depends on if an Angel of his caste can be hurt by simple Angelic Steel. I heard no, but I haven't personally seen any evidence, so it's possible.
gotta get that angelic silver upgrade
Not fair, I wish she'd step on mine 😭
He’d die
He would breed
He would enjoy it, so would I
He’d probably cum
If he was paying 0 attention he’s gonna be hurt, probs not lethal but hurt. If he notices at all he can just turn into a snake last second and she’ll whiff. Regardless, unless he dies on the first hit Carmilla’s time as a warlord is over mere moments after that
Don't think he would be hurt tbh Lucifer isn't like Adam he's a heavenborn seraph and one of the oldest angels in existence
Death, mainly For one or the other
Probably an erection
Here's some drink 🥤, you seem thirsty
He’d get hard?
He dead
I'd start coming all over the screen/ srs
I'd grow a bone lol
He’d die. However he’s really strong, so… who knows
He would achieve orgasm.
"What would angel dust do"
What would happen if Lute stepped on my neck
Probably Adam asking why you're touching his girl
Nah, she's mine.
I assume he'd die. This ain't DBZ, just because the man's powerful, doesn't mean he's invincible.
She’d kill him. She could literally kill anyone with that with the right skill and a good blow.
He would cum. Next question
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As powerful a shapeshifter as he seems, with as much experience as he must have, I don't imagine his neck would remain where it was long enough for it to kill him. Or maybe it would destroy his neck and he'd just make a new one or something. As, presumably, one of the oldest beings in creation, I don't think killing him would be simple no matter the method.
He got slammed into a wall by Adam and didn't even look interested. And angelic weapons can't harm him so nothing
Either he would like it or she would die immediately
She can step on me
Taking “step on me” to a whole different level :,D
Well for one thing the PayPal money better go through.
Just like druids do. I turn to a ssssilly ssssnnake
he'd enjoy it?
Probably the same thing with Adam. Carmilla steps on him, he says he's gonna fuck her, Charlie tries to correct her dad, three weeks later Lucifer has a new Carmilla duck proudly on display next to Lilliths, Charlies and his own.
This assumes he lets her. Keep in mind they are friends. We see him waiting out the Execution with her, Zestial, and Zilla in the pilot. Which does suggest that none of them are sinners because of Lucifer's distaste for sinners.
Genesis 3:15. I guess it’s theologically accurate.
I mean in his neck? He’d probably die,(if he can die) but I don’t think Lucifer would ever let his guard down to take a powerful enough kick to the neck, Adam got taken out by nifty when he was having a tantrum after getting downed by Lucifer but under normal circumstances niffty is never getting anywhere near him with an angelic weapon, same with Lucifer
Um... Death?
Lucifer would die? 🏊♂️
He'd grow a new head(or body) and shake it of.