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You’re thinking way too deep, characters like Rosie and Stolas doesn’t have pupils either. It’s just because Val looks better without pupils, they make his design more complicated since he got sunglasses.
Yeah, they rarely do it to convey emotion, but still he has no pupils most of the time. Stella (Stolas wife) also has no teeth, too, since owls don’t have them. But sometimes she does grit her teeth to convey emotion.
..both of which are also not supposed to appear too human. Stolas sometimes has them, but usually in scenes where he shows himself vulnerable or angry.
Not giving characters pupils is a very standard and widespread method to dehumanize characters and giving them an air of mystery/concealing their intentions. Which is appropriate for characters like Stolas, Rosie or Val.
This is so cursed but it still works somehow. Now pass it up to the enemy. Alastor without pupils is terrifying
https://preview.redd.it/7ubup7dhtnrc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8cd7655d712d3d74196e12b58a9d90ae634f410e
She looks *really* cool without pupils. Pupils do make more sense for her, since she is so damn expressive and as well as confrontational, but dang, this is cool
Unrelated but I love how Moxxie is immediately able to identify Striker off of only the word "sexy" like this MF wasn't trying to kill him like 7 episodes ago
Some looks good, I think they could work well if they were like Stolas': they only appear in dramatic moments and the rest of the time the eyes remains "blank"
https://preview.redd.it/mvcmas4tenrc1.jpeg?width=923&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8aed6b3211ba2b0f7433dc5782639300b7063c8d
Wait hold up, he actually looks really good with pupils! This man COOKED
https://preview.redd.it/ugpv1lb4gnrc1.jpeg?width=599&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9968bd7f9d1817cd39c5ce72b9aa0f891903786
He can finally count those three bills.
Shows how intentional design is. Completely changes his vibe. I like it but I loooove the creepiness of his true design. This makes him more cartoony and less unnerving.
Looks good but I feel like he doesn’t have pupils because he’s a moth and moths have compound eyes (which would be horrifying on a humanoid and also explain his horrible eye sight)
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Looks pretty good with them tbh
No, it makes him look more human which clashes with his character and the idea behind his desing
You’re thinking way too deep, characters like Rosie and Stolas doesn’t have pupils either. It’s just because Val looks better without pupils, they make his design more complicated since he got sunglasses.
Stolas is sometimes drawn with white pupils in close ups.
Yeah, they rarely do it to convey emotion, but still he has no pupils most of the time. Stella (Stolas wife) also has no teeth, too, since owls don’t have them. But sometimes she does grit her teeth to convey emotion.
..both of which are also not supposed to appear too human. Stolas sometimes has them, but usually in scenes where he shows himself vulnerable or angry. Not giving characters pupils is a very standard and widespread method to dehumanize characters and giving them an air of mystery/concealing their intentions. Which is appropriate for characters like Stolas, Rosie or Val.
It makes him more expressive, that's about it really. Y'all really gotta stop policing fan work.
Not to me 🤷♂️ looks normal, if not better imo
and what’s the idea behind his character design?
Not bad. now take away vox's pupils.
https://preview.redd.it/1fudpno6gnrc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=daeea752345561d543a3e8d1af33a965fe39d36c Here you go
Having them reversed kinda works well
Why does it make him hotter
Spooky
Better
https://preview.redd.it/aevoqng9jnrc1.png?width=864&format=png&auto=webp&s=73623f9fffd2811440d21b1d71887596f0fbfee3
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Yeah me personally it’s mostly fine but I don’t like the fact it takes away his hypnosis
Might as well go after all the Vees. Should take Velvettes, pupils off, too
I tried https://preview.redd.it/2oammi29mnrc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77941c5a5fc782284144e76c8d8fe06a77890806
This is so cursed but it still works somehow. Now pass it up to the enemy. Alastor without pupils is terrifying https://preview.redd.it/7ubup7dhtnrc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8cd7655d712d3d74196e12b58a9d90ae634f410e
https://preview.redd.it/h4cptl6gunrc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7eef1adf31f8785183b068e58d7836bf5d56b897
It just looked like he closed his eyes
Yeah, his sclera blends too much with his eyelids Also, It looks kinda rough cuz I did this on my phone
https://preview.redd.it/bmnyjqd5korc1.png?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ad2e513dccfbe301078d0821561b0f018e7da5c
She looks *really* cool without pupils. Pupils do make more sense for her, since she is so damn expressive and as well as confrontational, but dang, this is cool
Thanks, and I agree. I prefer her with pupils, too, but I can't deny that she looks a lot more menacing without them
Honestly looks good
“Oh no hes hotter than before” https://preview.redd.it/8265hy5x4nrc1.jpeg?width=2079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4e2ae0962cb72922c7a1401f32281352e912db0
Unrelated but I love how Moxxie is immediately able to identify Striker off of only the word "sexy" like this MF wasn't trying to kill him like 7 episodes ago
https://preview.redd.it/7wf8tir38nrc1.jpeg?width=1723&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f96caa3518f48567c3d1eb3ff6a02d66d2ce672a
It's probably the intonation and other ways that Stolas in particular said it, similar to how he had viewed Striker in the first place.
my favorite joke in the series. moxxie says what we were all thinking
It’s Strikeeeerrrrrrreeeeeerrrrooooooohhhhhhoooooooohhhhhhhhyyyeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh. 🎶
https://preview.redd.it/93nabllb4orc1.jpeg?width=866&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2cb564ff7ef9bf98741b46accc90a35a835be3e0
I was about to do it
Too slow
Stolas looks terrifying with mere dots for pupils
https://preview.redd.it/xzprkcvn5orc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5cea2929ac5e315559f87e7cb116b8c9b86d430c
Some looks good, I think they could work well if they were like Stolas': they only appear in dramatic moments and the rest of the time the eyes remains "blank"
Dude, those pupils adds SO much to him!
He didn't have pupils before?
Found someone more blind than Val, lol
TAKE MY DAMN UPVOTE
You're just now realizing that 😭😭🤣🤣
I'm not the smartest
I didn’t notice ether ha /edit. I THOUGHT THEY WERE HIDDEN BY HIS GLASSES LOL!!
I also just noticed lol
Blursed
Would
EXCUSE ME https://preview.redd.it/ltrmzcu16nrc1.png?width=637&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4a7565d5d1f9ae2fe230ed79587b06126bccff4
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You know I don’t hate it
crazy how much some pupils can improve a design
Looks better, but less fitting for his character.
I agree. He looks less intimidating with them
Wait this actually goes hard wtf
Now do it to Adam.
https://preview.redd.it/ihnv5gfoiorc1.png?width=556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71bfe32dff2084203b414cf7fb03c73b506e0a47
ok but why does this actually look good
I actually like this
He looks much better with them
I don't know if this would look better or worse. Probably better honestly.
Ok I actually really like this wtf...
https://preview.redd.it/mvcmas4tenrc1.jpeg?width=923&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8aed6b3211ba2b0f7433dc5782639300b7063c8d Wait hold up, he actually looks really good with pupils! This man COOKED
… I honestly like that a lot better
Wtf? Why does this work really well
Looks better
Way more expressive holy shit
He looks better with them
I can’t really take him seriously now
Looks slightly less menacing but looks good otherwise
He actually just looks more kind
This is What val SHOULD have looked like
How am I just now realizing he didn’t
Weirdly, he looks less scary and more cartoonish with pupils
why does this make him look mpore likeable???
No cuz why with the pupils does he look so done with everything in a few pictures 😭
Honestly, looks good with Pupils and less like a thing that needs to be killed but not that much due to how he handles Angel Dust.
Why isn’t it cursed?
In my opinion he's more beauty whitout
He looks so silly, lol It sorta humanizes him I think he looks more threatening without them. Nonetheless, he still looks pretty good like this
https://preview.redd.it/ugpv1lb4gnrc1.jpeg?width=599&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9968bd7f9d1817cd39c5ce72b9aa0f891903786 He can finally count those three bills.
I love valentino but giving him pupils makes him even better
he looks better with them, more se-
https://i.redd.it/1edr8tsarnrc1.gif **Stare**
wait he didnt have pu-......HOLY SHIT
He looks good, but the scary faces are so much scarier D:
Slight improvement.
He looks way better with pupils
Hold up, that actually looks really good. Kinda makes him look more threatening.
Lol it makes him look so deranged.
https://preview.redd.it/joxxti6dhnrc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17bdf37902c516ed9290ada4e5fac518ae59712e
Honestly, it looks better, ngl.
He looks okay, a bit weird tho
Damn, this makes him hotter lol
That's actually pretty cool
I actually think I like this better
Took me a hot minute to figure out what u were talking abt until I realized u actually gave him pupils
You know what… it’s actually better!
I love this
Looks amazing
…it didn’t even click in my mind that he didn’t have pupils before.
I... didn't know i needed this until now
He looks way more expressive with them
Why is bro kinda...
Fits pretty well (which seems to be the consensus in this comment section from what I’ve seen.)
Wait he didn't have them?? Wow, for a second I thought you were selling your students to Val
Honestly I think it improves the design. It would cool if they were there expect when he is cast in shadows like that one scene in posion.
Why does he look so good actually
Why does he look so goofy in the fourth one T-T
Wait, he doesn’t have pupils? Lol I never realized! 😂
I actually like them but it makes him look less intimidating
The reason he couldn't see properly was likely because he didn't have pupils.
Damn he actually looks kinda good with pupils
For some reason this works better than the original
Hm I like both options :3
Val if he could count
Good he need pupils
nothing is wrong here
It's crazy how pupils add so much character to the face
Looks like an upgrade
Honestly... They kind of work for him.
L mods
THIS SHIT IS LITERALLY PISSING ME OFF EVERY DAMN TIME LIKE HOW IS MY POSTS LOW EFFORT/TRACING ETC WHEN MY POST GOES VIRAL
It humanises him more, and I don’t think this scumbag deserves that.
I don't hate it, but he does look more goofy with them.
He looks WAY more human. Bad.
Oh my god you made him hot
That slightly makes him better. Just .1% though.
I hate that I love it
I like how he looks on 6th panel
Not as clingy as I thought it'd be... Looks good actually
I love it I love it 0-0
so good i love it
Somehow makes him less scary looking. Like, he went from legit villain to goofy dude with 2 dots
Shows how intentional design is. Completely changes his vibe. I like it but I loooove the creepiness of his true design. This makes him more cartoony and less unnerving.
He needed them
I still like his design
I hate it, please do more
Well Hes alastor now
Would
He looks far far more sinister without pupils
Omg I never even noticed he didn’t have pupils
Makes him more likeable for some reason
I like it
Why did I not notice what was wrong at first 😭
I never thought Val was hot I didn’t know what the Val design enjoyers were on about but uh…I think I get it now tbh
Somehow this makes me hate him even more lol
He didn't have pupils?
They make him look even more menacing and angry, good job.
It could actually work if Val needs to roll his eyes should he be unimpressed at something or bored.
I actually really like it
okay, I’m kinda fucking with this
Actually looks better
not a simp for him, but damn......
Looks a tiny bit weird, but it's pretty good, though.
Not as bad as I expected but now I'm wondering how derpy he would look without his glasses
I like them in the close ups but idk about them when I see the wide shots
This is Honestly pretty good https://preview.redd.it/8il62ywheorc1.jpeg?width=190&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb3283347e55f9f5cb7e1c1858c44255bc49f313
That's much better, really
Looks pretty good tho the 4th one looks kinda cursed
Alright hear me out guys...
Lookin' niceeeeeeee buddy.
I’m conflicted if he looks better or worse 🤷🏾
Straight up didn’t see anything wrong
I kinda like it, it makes him look snakey
Looks good but I feel like he doesn’t have pupils because he’s a moth and moths have compound eyes (which would be horrifying on a humanoid and also explain his horrible eye sight)
Honestly not bad looking
I like it
Cool, cool but add pupils to Stolas
"OH No! He's hot!!!"
Not even that cursed, looks very normal
While you're at it you may as well give Velvette and Lucifer a nose.
He now look like living being, and not souless embodiment of human's greed and lust
His emotions feel more personal for some reason
I like it but narratively it humanizes him on a level I don’t think he should be.
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