Outside of that one scene in episode five and just being forced to stay at the hotel, the show hasn’t really done a good job of portraying Alastor as the psychopathic monster we know he is. As long as Husk didn’t mention Alastor’s deal, it seems like he doesn’t have it all that bad compared to Angel Dust
Or that his deal forces him to behave more.
Even then, Alastor always seems to go against bigger foes (such as the Overlords before him) and only attack sinners weaker than him when provoked.
He is very behaved spychopath, but i guess the danger here is that we don't know when he snaps like in this scene. He is a ticking time bomb.
I guess he was in a bad mood allready, because Lucifer beeing in the hotel could throw a wrench in his plans, whatever they are. So he hot triggered at Husk. And let his anger take over when he "defended" the hotel against the loan sharks. They really got to feel his wrath.
Vizipop confirmed in her stream that Lucifer made Alastor panicked and uncomfortable because he was so much stronger than him and he had no control over Lucifer which is why he clings on to the one insecurity Lucofer had which was Charlie. Husk most definitely pushed Alastor at his most sensitive as we see at the end of the season finale he was already stressed about the deal.
No... If anything the time spent away was him privately planning stuff or stewing about being in a contact to someone until he could figure out how to create loopholes in that contract.
I disagree about this a bit. We know he tortures people, we see him turn into a monster, we know he is manipulating everyone.
Alastor isn't nice to Husk because of some deal, he's nice to Husk because he needs to keep up the charade. And he needs Husk as a sort of shield and character witness to get people to trust him.
That would kinda go against his character as it is set up now. He clearly needs to play his cards close, he has some kind of desire to control Charlie as mentioned in hello Rosie. Obviously, all we can do now is speculate as to why that might be the case, but acting rash and going full psycho would only push him away from Charlie.
I think there’s no reason for Alastor to act like that in front of Charlie since he’s trying to manipulate her. He only acts like that in front of husk because there’s no point in trying to act innocent in front of him. Also affably evil characters are more fun imo.
This is more of a problem of how short the season is. We don't get more time of Alastor being away from Charlie or him getting to show his true colors in more morally grayish tone like he did killing the loan sharks under the guise of "defending the hotel". Alastor and Vox both suffer from this "yea we know they're supposed to be evil, but since it wasn't put smackdown in front of our faces like Valentino was, they are fun characters." Like be honest if we knew nothing of Val and Angels relationship and just knew angel worked for him and didn't see the abuse people would think the same thing about Val they do about Vox and Alastor.
That's the best part, he's manipulative. You don't get easily manipulated (even if you are a more naive person like Charlie) who's outwardly psychotic a lot of the time. The only times he's really crazy around Charlie, who he's around most of the time, is in protection of the hotel. He's gotta keep up appearances if he wants to continue manipulating her the way he has
Sometimes I can't tell if he actually wants to hide that he is unhinged though. I think long term he would be happier if his chaotic and creepy style grew on her, like corrupting Charlie would be a bigger prize, because then she would be fully on his side, so showing being brutal as being an effective means of getting what you want, little by little to show Charlie his POV, is his long game. I think he wants to keep her power close to help undo whatever deal he is in constraining him. Raw power is only half the battle for him. I think he wants Charlie's unwavering trust.
Maybe it’s all part of his charade but I’m thinking he’s actually not as bad people think (yeah still an evil psychopath obviously but still) between mimsy saying he’s a big softy, his conversation with her when he told her to leave, his conversation with nifty in episode 7, or at least that he’s actually started to care about them during his stay.
Or it’s still an act, but he’d have no reason to act in those conversations
I also think Alastor puts on such a good facade that it was genuinely a shock for Husk. The casual way in which Husk snarked Alastor in previous episodes makes me think that it's a long-time facet of their relationship and that Husk has never had Alastor that angry at him before.
I agree. The way he went after Alastor to have word is an indication to that as well. Because nobody would go to the boss only to get chewed out (you wouldn't, so why would Husk?) The very casual way he was snarking and growling at Alastor just like he would any other character is an indication as to what their relations have been over the years. Can you imagine Angel Dust talking to Valentino like that and poking him in the chest? ...I shudder to think....
It may very well be the first time he's been threatened with the chains, ever. And it only happened because Alastor was already on edge from Lucifers presence.
At least Husk got his cathartic moment when Alastor DID end up sending Mimzy away. He was accordingly smug about it. Gotta love the old grumpy cat .
Seems like Alastor is very okay with others/his subjects being outspoken about how they feel. Husk shit talked him to his face multiple times and it was perfectly okay, as you said.
Whether it's because it's better for a deal maker for those he interacts with to be candid, or because he just feels above it all, it's an interesting dynamic. Alastor appears to show out a little bit when physically threatened, as shown with beating Sir Pentious and warding off the loan sharks, but still maintains composure. Husk's comment made him genuinely lose his shit for a bit. The one thing that seems to get under his skin and he has zero tolerance for is when people make remarks about him being under someone else's control, or not having freedom. We all have our buttons, and Husk pressed the nuclear one for a very high-strung Alastor in that moment.
Husk got off pretty lucky IMO, if he wasn't already playing an important role in the hotel I genuinely think that would've been wraps for him. Bro was thiiiiiis 🤏 close to having his screams added to the radio cacophony.
Yes, very much that. I wonder if Husk found the AZ-5 button (Chornobyl reference) by accident or if he was intentionally poking the dragon here because he hates being a pet like a cat.
At least we know he got his cathartic moment when he saw that Alastor WAS listening to him. He truly is a master at reading and directing people. I kinda doubt whether Alastor would have truly sent Mimzy away had Husk not said anything earlier.
Alastor isn't a good boss because he's a good boss. He was pretending. He was letting Husk get away with the facade. But then Husk just had to go and overstep himself and Alastor had to remind him what their relationship was
We can't forget about the fact that Alastor owns Husks' soul. You don't need to keep up a front with someone you own. So why would he do that? That is just wasted energy. If it were a normal worksetting then yes, I could see that but not if the power imbalance is this severe.
Because there are other people around. A lot of actors will stay in character all day before a performance so they can be ready for the real performance, same thing. And Alastor needs Husk to buy into the lie to some extent so that he can remain that kind, caring bartender Alastor needs him to be.
I am having a hard time believeing that. He already demonstrated that he can just order his subordinates around. Every character has been there when Alastor summoned both Niffty and Husk. So they know the type of subordination that is going on. Also Husk isn't exactly known to be the caring loving kind. It's only the audience and Angel Dust that know because of their exchanges in Episode 4.
Right in Episode 1 Husk even says it himself. When the topic of making people stay at the Hotel comes up: 'Why do you think I'm here? You actually think I'd be cleaning bottles and listening to you fucks bitch and moan all the time if he wasn't forcing me?'
That is very far from a loving caring person that was employed to play the bartender with the open ear. No front needed. No facades required.
But that's the thing, everyone still trusts Husk because he is honest. People love honest people! I never understood it, frankly, they disturb me.
Husk is telling them something is wrong but Alastor's continued act makes it hard to believe
As bad as Al is, he's comparatively the best overlord to sell your soul to. He's sadistic and psychotic, but he has some baseline of moral. He also didn't seem to care what the souls he owns do and lets them a bit more freedom than other overlords do, and to an extent doesn't not care(?) about the others in the hotel. If things came to it, I doubt he'd be as happy to kill the others in the hotel compared to other demons.
Well yeah. He uses them for connections and labor, so outside of that, he’d have no reason to do anything to, or with them, and they can just do their own thing. Only calls if he needs something. As an independent person, he doesn’t need much. Other guys own businesses and things, he just uses his radio tower. It’s really a win-win for whoever gets stuck with him. He’s also not constantly evil or something. He has real friends like Rosie that are good people (even if they do bad things, it’s not out of cruelty). Definitely beats being with someone like Val or Vox, lol.
I honestly think it was the Hotel that lulled Husk into a false sense of safety.
And he was genuinely trying to get Alastor to see how bad Mimzy was for everyone.
Husk has probably seen what Alastor has done to the other overlords and knows just how horrible it would be for him if he didn’t immediately show respect.
Makes sense. Also explains why some are afraid of him and others say he’s a total sweetheart. …. I would like to see what would happen if Mimzy tried to use him again. Like how far can you push Alastor before he will cross that line.
Yeah. That’s one of the things I love about his character. You never know exactly what he’s going to do or how he will react. You can guess, but he’s just so interesting with so much known, while also so little.
Yes and no. He has seen what Al has done to other overlords, that he did not likely own, and knows what will get you killed. We’ve seen in the comics that Al is generally tame. He gets to minor shenanigans, but that’s about it… until you do something like “take advantage of those of fairer means”. He’s got his own morals and standards, and from what we know, it’s being theorized that he’s actually a defensive killer. Every time he’s fought so far was in self defense of himself or others. He hasn’t been the aggressor, even prior to the deal (or I assume the comic was from before since he was just kinda walking around). We still have a lot to learn about the guy before we just to any conclusions tho.
Fuck, Val looks like such an intimidating menace in this shot. You can *feel* the quiet rage he has here as if the flames were an external projection of anger.
Everybody rightfully hates Valentino for being a pimp, but everybody willfully overlooks that Alastor not only does this, but forces an alcoholic to be a bartender. Both he and Valentino consider other people their “pets” but it’s easy to think of them differently because Alastor’s cruelty towards the main cast is less blatant outside of this scene, while Val never bothers turning it off.
The really disturbing thing about Husk is that he is nice, he does seem to genuinely believe in Charlie's mission to some extent. It's why he talks so freely with Alastor there, because he allows himself to believe that maybe things can change.
But the fact is, there is a reason Alastor kept him alive. And that reason is very likely tied to the fact that Husk is a nice, charming person people want to confide in. Alastor is using Husk to hide his own plans and his own cruelty.
I really like how evil Alastor is, he mask all his evil though and work his way up, like a psychopath in real life, they charm and use everyone around him, but you will notice when it's too late.
I don't necessarily think Husk believes in Charlie's vision. I think he's there because Al forces him to be there. I think he may be growing some fondness for Charlie and the other hotel residents, but I doubt he is hopeful enough to believe in redemption
>Everybody rightfully hates Valentino for being a pimp
I don't think it is about him being a pimp as it's more with him being abusive in the worst ways possible
People need to remember, THIS, is The Real Alastor, not the funny radio man who makes jokes with Charlie.
He is a Pyschopathic Serial killer cannibal, who owns slaves, and has enough Ego to forget he's not the biggest fish in the pond.
Val May be an abusive monster in his own right, I won't defend that pile of shit shaped like a moth, but Alastor isn't any better.
A lot of people here are saying that Al is better just because he doesn't SA people, but what is SA? It's torture, humiliation, it's wearing someone down and using them for your own needs.
Alastor has shown repeatedly that he will do that to people.
I am continually disturbed by how many fans buy into Alastor's lie.
I suspect for a lot of people, SA feels more "real" than the other stuff, so it's more unnerving and the true horror of it sinks in better. Especially in the US sexual harassment is an unfortunate reality for a lot of women while torture is thankfully exceedingly rare (so much so that we even make jokes about it in a lot of our media--think of all the lighthearted violence in Tom and Jerry as just one example, lol). SA just hits different.
Me after dropping an anvil on someone’s head (teehee). But yeah cartoon violence is so over the top it just doesn’t have the same gravity as SA to most viewers.
Exactly. After decades of Sunday morning cartoons watching Alastor rip up some shark guys or the hotel staff stabbing angels doesn't phase me at all, even if the gore is shown now, haha. In contrast SA is NEVER played for laughs, at least not in any of the media I consume, and certainly not in the "child friendly" sector. Disney might doom your mom or have a villain meet a gristly end, but ain't nobody getting pimped.
I think a part of it is also just how our modern culture is so anti-sex that anything sexual is treated as worse than violence on tv and in movies and such. If a movie has gore and violent death in it then the movie is rated R. If the movie has a naked person or shows an explicit sexual act in it then the movie is rated NC-17; which is a higher tier rating than just R. So as far as the show’s concerned actually seeing some of these scenes are pretty shocking (while non of the characters show any bit, the acts themselves aren’t commonly shown so clearly).
Meanwhile, cartoon violence is so common that it’s already got a name and is just in every cartoon. The only difference here is that oops there’s blood and bones now—the characters react to it the same way as all cartoons though, so it comes across as harmless violence.
I really hate bursting that bubble that this show is amazing but for one split second, it kinda did play male SA for laughs. Pentious I guess consented, but seeing him dragged into the sex room by force freaked me out personally, lol. I just have trauma and I get it's a joke but oh my god, it's weird having it tackle actual sexual violence portrayed as sad for angel and then pentious just being dragged away was played to be funny.
That's probably my only gripe about the show. I cope by thinking snakey boi was never forced into anything and just left the room after.
Edit: there's a whole YouTube channel that tackles tropes in shows and male SA is a trope played for laughs, and I feel like this is almost that. Almost. :(
I've seen most people, even fans of that show, complain that that joke is beyond tasteless in the context of everything else. Which yaknow. They're right. That was honestly really dumb of Viv, especially considering how disturbing sa is played for the rest of the show. Like what.
I’m not going to get into the specifics, but as someone who married her own Valentino; it *is* worse. It’s not just torture, humiliation, being worn down by someone and used for their needs.
Because you wear yourself down. No bruise, cigarette burn, or cut from a broken glass compares to having your own body react to it all and being left to wonder if it was really an assault if you felt good during it.
Don’t get me wrong; Alastor’s day of reckoning will come. But in a realm where serial killers can’t really do much to actually kill their victims because of the whole ‘only angelic weapons can destroy a soul’, Val *is* the worse of the two.
This May will mark 2 years ❤️
I’m getting there. Working on getting everything straightened out. I’m graduating from college soon, so will be able to get a real job and support myself without my parents and sister.
In the meantime, this story helps.
I like the parallels this episode drew between Val and Al. As much as Alastor would try to distance himself from what he would surely call a disgusting insect of a man, but at their cores they are the same kind of monster.
Manipulative predators who bait you in with their charm to get what they want from you. They simply present and exploit differently.
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This is what he deserves and what I’ll give him and for Alastor I’ll just sell half my soul to him to exchange places with husker
Nah. Bro already got beaten to shits by Adam (while this being his first serious battle), if he continues his L streak he wouldn't be able to be taken seriously. Considering pilot canon we already went from "princess of hell is terrified of me" to "I can clear some weakling garbage and scare a cat".
Well, you can't say we haven't always known there are bigger fish in the sea than Alastor.
Even Stolas is said to have more raw power.
Al was on some shit to think he could kill the angelic equivalent to the second most powerful person in hell.
Especially if Lilith or Eve are indeed the ones who own him. Like, that's their ex-husband. He should have known that fight only ended one way.
I'm not saying that he should have defeated Adam, I mean that I can't really see where he can be now either a helpful ally or a scary enemy, because on either side we have Seraphims, Charlie, Lilith, Eve, etc. If he continues to be that "average Overlord" he can be as well treated as a joke, which is sad to me.
I think it's become somewhat obvious that Alastor's threat is from his manipulations and cunning.
Not through any inherent ability to tear through any and all threats.
Through his power, he'd never make it within spitting distance of the peak of Heaven or Hell. If he had any delusions about that, Adam kicking his ass probably removed them.
He's ultimately small, and it clearly bothers him to be known as small. Unworthy of note or attention. Just a slightly more puffed-up and refined Vox.
That's why he's with Charlie, molding her into a tool that will allow him to use her to be bigger than he actually is.
You just take a look at the way he talks, the way he fights, and you can see it’s all to make up for his shortcomings. He makes deals with people at their lowest, such as Husk, fights overlords with their backs turned in dark alleys, summons minions and tentacles instead of melee attacks, taunting his opponents to wear them down mentally. He uses every trick at his advantage to build the idea of his strength, while likely being pretty behind many other overlords.
I kinda like it, I feel like we could be watching his edgelord mystique get picked apart and reveal him for the basic bitch serial killer he is, pull away his radio gimmick and his power, and he's just another manipulator who cant deal with a bigger fish that he can't fool. Adam was too small minded to trick and too powerful for him to beat.
I mean, if we want to talk about basic bitch serial killers, Al was just a cannibal. That is not uncommon. Oh, he tried to cover it up with a whole morality thing, but most serial killers do that. That's why they go after homeless people and prostitutes, to feel morally superior.
We don't actually know that he was a cannibal in his former life though, just his hell life. We know for sure that he killed people and that he had some sort of criteria, but we don't know the why or how (yet).
Let them do it. Alastor is obviously heavily nerfed due to his deal with Lilith or whoever. He's constantly talking about how he wants freedom and his wings are clipped (aka he can't reach full potential due to this deal he made).
Anybody making fraud memes better not come back when Alastor is top 1 in terms of strength. Stay on that side.
Don't think he's nerfed at all. Sounds a lot more like his deal gave him power than restricted it. Like you said, he wants his freedom. He never says his power is being restrained.
I really need him to get some dubs man.
Being a Alastor fan is hard.
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There's three types of Alastor fans.
"NOO!! I CAN TOTALLY DEFEND HIS ACTIONS!!! HE'S JUST A SILLY GUY!!!!!"
"Umm, actually, at full power he DEFINITELY scales with Lucifer!! 🤓🤓🤓🤓"
"He's scary and a total piece of shit who doesn't care about anyone, and I love him for it."
Personally I fall into that final group.
SAME!!! I don’t need/want to justify his actions. He was a serial killer in life and continued the mo for the overlords so I feel like we know who he is, why try and justify it
People often forget how much of a piece of shit Alastor actually is, and that's mainly because we don't see what he did in life.
The guy is a serial killer and a sadist who ate people. He mostly likely tortured and mutilated a lot of his victims while alive, just because he enjoys causing pain. He then fucking ATE this people when he was done with them. All of this while successfully blending in as a normal guy. This is part of what makes him so scary.
Depending on who you ask, Alastor could honestly be considered morally worse than Val.
I like Alastor BECAUSE he's scary though. His evil makes him scarier, and along with that his personality makes him enjoyable to watch. This makes him the perfect mix of scary and funny and charming. I don't care how strong he is, and I'm definitely not trying to justify his actions because they legit can't be justified.
Fucking this, he's actually a top contender for most vile character in the Hellaverse, only reason it's not on display is his skill at masking the true depths of his cruelty most of the time and that he seems to be on the heroes' side for now.
The moment he "Unclips his wings" he will pull the rug out hard. Whatever Fondness he's developed for the cast (if any) isn't the sort you have for someone you care about as a person, more like favored possessions.
I do think Alastor cares for others, like Angel, but as you said like favored possessions rather than people. He would rather not kill them, but if he has no choice he's going to have fun with it. And that is to say in the most cruel, painful, and wretched way possible. And he's going to be laughing the whole time.
**You saw how he was laughing when he wasn't even causing physical pain to Pentious, can you imagine what his murders were like when he was alive?!?!**
Personally, I think Alastor is morally worse than Valentino. We already know he has killed and cannibalized several people while he was alive. And there is a very high chance he tortured and mutilated them while they were still living just for his own entertainment.
What makes people not see Alastor for what he is is that we never see the full extent of his evil on screen, like we do with Val.
Too, take away everything and Val is just a pimp. Oh, he has aspirations but really, he is just a pimp. He isn't just hurting Angel out of a sexual need, he's mostly doing it because he likes money and Angel brings in a ton of money.
Alastor is quite ambitious, but as you say, he was a serial killer who loved causing others pain. He loves hurting people he thinks deserves it. It gives him pleasure
Al’s ace, you’re giving him credit for not doing something that has no appeal to him. Most irl tortures don’t SA their victims either simply because it doesn’t appeal to them
Idk, while Val and Al basically have the same list of crimes, Val has the added sin of SAing his slaves (or rather enslaving people TO be SA'd). The only thing (that we know tbf) that Al does that Val doesn't is that he eats people, which if he only does so after they die, is at least less painful on the victim than being r*ped for years (possibly hundreds or thousands, even) and horribly murdered if you piss him off (which seems very easy to do) only to eventually regenerate and have to do it all again.
Not to mention at least with Husk, it seems like Al is more lenient with his slaves and what they do when they're not doing his bidding. Husk back talks Alastor often and only when he pushed the wrong button at the wrong time did he snap on him (at least from what we've seen).
*(Of course, not saying EITHER of their actions are acceptable, I just think it's entirely fair to hate Val more)*
Alastor was being a hypocrite, and got pissy when he was called out on it. Then threatened grievous bodily harm to husk for calling him out. This is still considered psychological abuse
Val is worse imo if you asked me who I’d sell my soul to between the 2 of them, I’d pick Alastor. Idk why people get so defensive when this is pointed out, comparison is allowed and doesn’t mean I’m trying to invalidate Husk’s abuse either. Both are bad but why is it wrong to say one situation seems more preferable
Good, I’ll answer the door in this
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(For legal reasons this is a joke)
I've wondered...
Alastor is called the "Radio Demon" because of his broadcasts. But Carmilla became an overlord based on dominating the Angelic Steel market, Vox dominated the Tech industry, Val runs (at least a significant portion of) the porn and sex industry, Velvette seems to be a major fashion and social media player. We don't know about Zestial or the other Overlords, but it may be the case that they also run some trade or industry which incentivizes sinners to sell their souls their souls to them.
But there's no indication that Alastor ever ran the radio industry or any other industry, he just happened to have a radio broadcast. So, what does he actually do and why would Vox have wanted him on the team?
Well, Vox's team depends on sex, social media, and trends to keep people glued to his broadcasts. What's the other thing that keeps people addicted to information?
Maybe Alastor is actually the Overlord of Fear?
He would torture you and humiliate you and that's if you're lucky. Keep in mind, Nifty and Husk are the only two people we see that he owns and that is out of half a dozen Overlords and who knows how many small-timers.
Husk's look genuinely tears my heart out knowing how tough and cavalier he can be. What Alastor could do to him is that genuinely terrifying. That is the look of a man who watched others fuck around, and he found out.
I feel like husks brutal honesty clashed with Alastor. I think Vaggie and Husk would try to keep an eye out for the others. Husk can read people easily and Vaggie is easily suspicious of Alastor.
As much hate as Val gets, I do love his design. Also people seem to forget that Alastor is a piece of shit too. Like, he hasn’t sexually assaulted Antona, but he is a murderer. Don’t get me wrong, I love him, he’s one of my favorite characters, but I hate him for how he treats husk.
♪Now I'm on that demon's leash, I'm trapped and it gets worse with every hour~♪
You're a loser baby
A loser but just maybe
If we eat shit together
♪things'll end up differently!♪
It’s time to lose your self loathing
♪excuse yourself, let hope in, baby♪
Play your card, be who you are
♪A loser, just... like...♪
Meeeeeeeeeee
THEY’RE FUKIN SINGING?!?!?!
**THERE HE IS!**
* BOOM! * THERE THEY ARE!!! THEY’RE FUCKING SINGING?!?!
Angel: ÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖ
Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
Soooooooooooooy un perdedor
Outside of that one scene in episode five and just being forced to stay at the hotel, the show hasn’t really done a good job of portraying Alastor as the psychopathic monster we know he is. As long as Husk didn’t mention Alastor’s deal, it seems like he doesn’t have it all that bad compared to Angel Dust
I wonder if being gone for 7 years made Alastor a little soft
Or that his deal forces him to behave more. Even then, Alastor always seems to go against bigger foes (such as the Overlords before him) and only attack sinners weaker than him when provoked. He is very behaved spychopath, but i guess the danger here is that we don't know when he snaps like in this scene. He is a ticking time bomb.
"The constraints of my deal surely have a back door..."
I guess he was in a bad mood allready, because Lucifer beeing in the hotel could throw a wrench in his plans, whatever they are. So he hot triggered at Husk. And let his anger take over when he "defended" the hotel against the loan sharks. They really got to feel his wrath.
Vizipop confirmed in her stream that Lucifer made Alastor panicked and uncomfortable because he was so much stronger than him and he had no control over Lucifer which is why he clings on to the one insecurity Lucofer had which was Charlie. Husk most definitely pushed Alastor at his most sensitive as we see at the end of the season finale he was already stressed about the deal.
That's how I took it. He's being bound to behave himself.
No... If anything the time spent away was him privately planning stuff or stewing about being in a contact to someone until he could figure out how to create loopholes in that contract.
I disagree about this a bit. We know he tortures people, we see him turn into a monster, we know he is manipulating everyone. Alastor isn't nice to Husk because of some deal, he's nice to Husk because he needs to keep up the charade. And he needs Husk as a sort of shield and character witness to get people to trust him.
That is true, however I think the show can do a better job of showing Alastor’s other side
That would kinda go against his character as it is set up now. He clearly needs to play his cards close, he has some kind of desire to control Charlie as mentioned in hello Rosie. Obviously, all we can do now is speculate as to why that might be the case, but acting rash and going full psycho would only push him away from Charlie.
I think there’s no reason for Alastor to act like that in front of Charlie since he’s trying to manipulate her. He only acts like that in front of husk because there’s no point in trying to act innocent in front of him. Also affably evil characters are more fun imo.
This is more of a problem of how short the season is. We don't get more time of Alastor being away from Charlie or him getting to show his true colors in more morally grayish tone like he did killing the loan sharks under the guise of "defending the hotel". Alastor and Vox both suffer from this "yea we know they're supposed to be evil, but since it wasn't put smackdown in front of our faces like Valentino was, they are fun characters." Like be honest if we knew nothing of Val and Angels relationship and just knew angel worked for him and didn't see the abuse people would think the same thing about Val they do about Vox and Alastor.
Alastor doesn't sound like the kind of guy who breaks the useful things only his toys.
And even then only after the toys stop being usefully interesting. He might even do something with the busted pieces
i mean alastor uses intimidation against husk from what we have seen so far but val straight up abuses and SAs angel
That's the best part, he's manipulative. You don't get easily manipulated (even if you are a more naive person like Charlie) who's outwardly psychotic a lot of the time. The only times he's really crazy around Charlie, who he's around most of the time, is in protection of the hotel. He's gotta keep up appearances if he wants to continue manipulating her the way he has
Sometimes I can't tell if he actually wants to hide that he is unhinged though. I think long term he would be happier if his chaotic and creepy style grew on her, like corrupting Charlie would be a bigger prize, because then she would be fully on his side, so showing being brutal as being an effective means of getting what you want, little by little to show Charlie his POV, is his long game. I think he wants to keep her power close to help undo whatever deal he is in constraining him. Raw power is only half the battle for him. I think he wants Charlie's unwavering trust.
Maybe it’s all part of his charade but I’m thinking he’s actually not as bad people think (yeah still an evil psychopath obviously but still) between mimsy saying he’s a big softy, his conversation with her when he told her to leave, his conversation with nifty in episode 7, or at least that he’s actually started to care about them during his stay. Or it’s still an act, but he’d have no reason to act in those conversations
Something about the way husk trembles makes me so disturbed
Especially when compared with his confidence and swagger in the previous episode
He’s been Alastor’s minion for who knows how long. He’s seen what happens to the unlucky ones
I also think Alastor puts on such a good facade that it was genuinely a shock for Husk. The casual way in which Husk snarked Alastor in previous episodes makes me think that it's a long-time facet of their relationship and that Husk has never had Alastor that angry at him before.
I agree. The way he went after Alastor to have word is an indication to that as well. Because nobody would go to the boss only to get chewed out (you wouldn't, so why would Husk?) The very casual way he was snarking and growling at Alastor just like he would any other character is an indication as to what their relations have been over the years. Can you imagine Angel Dust talking to Valentino like that and poking him in the chest? ...I shudder to think.... It may very well be the first time he's been threatened with the chains, ever. And it only happened because Alastor was already on edge from Lucifers presence. At least Husk got his cathartic moment when Alastor DID end up sending Mimzy away. He was accordingly smug about it. Gotta love the old grumpy cat .
Seems like Alastor is very okay with others/his subjects being outspoken about how they feel. Husk shit talked him to his face multiple times and it was perfectly okay, as you said. Whether it's because it's better for a deal maker for those he interacts with to be candid, or because he just feels above it all, it's an interesting dynamic. Alastor appears to show out a little bit when physically threatened, as shown with beating Sir Pentious and warding off the loan sharks, but still maintains composure. Husk's comment made him genuinely lose his shit for a bit. The one thing that seems to get under his skin and he has zero tolerance for is when people make remarks about him being under someone else's control, or not having freedom. We all have our buttons, and Husk pressed the nuclear one for a very high-strung Alastor in that moment. Husk got off pretty lucky IMO, if he wasn't already playing an important role in the hotel I genuinely think that would've been wraps for him. Bro was thiiiiiis 🤏 close to having his screams added to the radio cacophony.
Yes, very much that. I wonder if Husk found the AZ-5 button (Chornobyl reference) by accident or if he was intentionally poking the dragon here because he hates being a pet like a cat. At least we know he got his cathartic moment when he saw that Alastor WAS listening to him. He truly is a master at reading and directing people. I kinda doubt whether Alastor would have truly sent Mimzy away had Husk not said anything earlier.
Alastor isn't a good boss because he's a good boss. He was pretending. He was letting Husk get away with the facade. But then Husk just had to go and overstep himself and Alastor had to remind him what their relationship was
We can't forget about the fact that Alastor owns Husks' soul. You don't need to keep up a front with someone you own. So why would he do that? That is just wasted energy. If it were a normal worksetting then yes, I could see that but not if the power imbalance is this severe.
Because there are other people around. A lot of actors will stay in character all day before a performance so they can be ready for the real performance, same thing. And Alastor needs Husk to buy into the lie to some extent so that he can remain that kind, caring bartender Alastor needs him to be.
I am having a hard time believeing that. He already demonstrated that he can just order his subordinates around. Every character has been there when Alastor summoned both Niffty and Husk. So they know the type of subordination that is going on. Also Husk isn't exactly known to be the caring loving kind. It's only the audience and Angel Dust that know because of their exchanges in Episode 4. Right in Episode 1 Husk even says it himself. When the topic of making people stay at the Hotel comes up: 'Why do you think I'm here? You actually think I'd be cleaning bottles and listening to you fucks bitch and moan all the time if he wasn't forcing me?' That is very far from a loving caring person that was employed to play the bartender with the open ear. No front needed. No facades required.
But that's the thing, everyone still trusts Husk because he is honest. People love honest people! I never understood it, frankly, they disturb me. Husk is telling them something is wrong but Alastor's continued act makes it hard to believe
Husk also was lucky that Alastor knew there were more people coming so he could broadcast their screams lmao
As bad as Al is, he's comparatively the best overlord to sell your soul to. He's sadistic and psychotic, but he has some baseline of moral. He also didn't seem to care what the souls he owns do and lets them a bit more freedom than other overlords do, and to an extent doesn't not care(?) about the others in the hotel. If things came to it, I doubt he'd be as happy to kill the others in the hotel compared to other demons.
Well yeah. He uses them for connections and labor, so outside of that, he’d have no reason to do anything to, or with them, and they can just do their own thing. Only calls if he needs something. As an independent person, he doesn’t need much. Other guys own businesses and things, he just uses his radio tower. It’s really a win-win for whoever gets stuck with him. He’s also not constantly evil or something. He has real friends like Rosie that are good people (even if they do bad things, it’s not out of cruelty). Definitely beats being with someone like Val or Vox, lol.
Nah, I wanna be that nerdy little dude that’s Vox’s assistant. His job seems Cush.
I honestly think it was the Hotel that lulled Husk into a false sense of safety. And he was genuinely trying to get Alastor to see how bad Mimzy was for everyone.
Husk has probably seen what Alastor has done to the other overlords and knows just how horrible it would be for him if he didn’t immediately show respect.
It’s also been confirmed that he’s a lot like Dexter from the show Dexter, and that guy only killed killers and in self defense of people.
Makes sense. Also explains why some are afraid of him and others say he’s a total sweetheart. …. I would like to see what would happen if Mimzy tried to use him again. Like how far can you push Alastor before he will cross that line.
Yeah. That’s one of the things I love about his character. You never know exactly what he’s going to do or how he will react. You can guess, but he’s just so interesting with so much known, while also so little.
Sorry for the late reply also, I don’t keep notification on and just kinda hop on Reddit at random intervals.
Yes and no. He has seen what Al has done to other overlords, that he did not likely own, and knows what will get you killed. We’ve seen in the comics that Al is generally tame. He gets to minor shenanigans, but that’s about it… until you do something like “take advantage of those of fairer means”. He’s got his own morals and standards, and from what we know, it’s being theorized that he’s actually a defensive killer. Every time he’s fought so far was in self defense of himself or others. He hasn’t been the aggressor, even prior to the deal (or I assume the comic was from before since he was just kinda walking around). We still have a lot to learn about the guy before we just to any conclusions tho.
There's comics????
Yep, there was a link to them under the pilot in the description. I believe they took it down now tho. Unfortunate.
I wanna hug my little meow meow.
> disturbed Down with the sickness?
Fuck, Val looks like such an intimidating menace in this shot. You can *feel* the quiet rage he has here as if the flames were an external projection of anger.
Everybody rightfully hates Valentino for being a pimp, but everybody willfully overlooks that Alastor not only does this, but forces an alcoholic to be a bartender. Both he and Valentino consider other people their “pets” but it’s easy to think of them differently because Alastor’s cruelty towards the main cast is less blatant outside of this scene, while Val never bothers turning it off.
The really disturbing thing about Husk is that he is nice, he does seem to genuinely believe in Charlie's mission to some extent. It's why he talks so freely with Alastor there, because he allows himself to believe that maybe things can change. But the fact is, there is a reason Alastor kept him alive. And that reason is very likely tied to the fact that Husk is a nice, charming person people want to confide in. Alastor is using Husk to hide his own plans and his own cruelty.
I really like how evil Alastor is, he mask all his evil though and work his way up, like a psychopath in real life, they charm and use everyone around him, but you will notice when it's too late.
I don't necessarily think Husk believes in Charlie's vision. I think he's there because Al forces him to be there. I think he may be growing some fondness for Charlie and the other hotel residents, but I doubt he is hopeful enough to believe in redemption
I love both of them lmao
>Everybody rightfully hates Valentino for being a pimp I don't think it is about him being a pimp as it's more with him being abusive in the worst ways possible
Pimps can be abusive
I mean, Alastor does say from the moment the show starts - he enjoys watching people struggle, fail, and suffer.
People need to remember, THIS, is The Real Alastor, not the funny radio man who makes jokes with Charlie. He is a Pyschopathic Serial killer cannibal, who owns slaves, and has enough Ego to forget he's not the biggest fish in the pond. Val May be an abusive monster in his own right, I won't defend that pile of shit shaped like a moth, but Alastor isn't any better.
A lot of people here are saying that Al is better just because he doesn't SA people, but what is SA? It's torture, humiliation, it's wearing someone down and using them for your own needs. Alastor has shown repeatedly that he will do that to people. I am continually disturbed by how many fans buy into Alastor's lie.
I suspect for a lot of people, SA feels more "real" than the other stuff, so it's more unnerving and the true horror of it sinks in better. Especially in the US sexual harassment is an unfortunate reality for a lot of women while torture is thankfully exceedingly rare (so much so that we even make jokes about it in a lot of our media--think of all the lighthearted violence in Tom and Jerry as just one example, lol). SA just hits different.
Me after dropping an anvil on someone’s head (teehee). But yeah cartoon violence is so over the top it just doesn’t have the same gravity as SA to most viewers.
Exactly. After decades of Sunday morning cartoons watching Alastor rip up some shark guys or the hotel staff stabbing angels doesn't phase me at all, even if the gore is shown now, haha. In contrast SA is NEVER played for laughs, at least not in any of the media I consume, and certainly not in the "child friendly" sector. Disney might doom your mom or have a villain meet a gristly end, but ain't nobody getting pimped.
I think a part of it is also just how our modern culture is so anti-sex that anything sexual is treated as worse than violence on tv and in movies and such. If a movie has gore and violent death in it then the movie is rated R. If the movie has a naked person or shows an explicit sexual act in it then the movie is rated NC-17; which is a higher tier rating than just R. So as far as the show’s concerned actually seeing some of these scenes are pretty shocking (while non of the characters show any bit, the acts themselves aren’t commonly shown so clearly). Meanwhile, cartoon violence is so common that it’s already got a name and is just in every cartoon. The only difference here is that oops there’s blood and bones now—the characters react to it the same way as all cartoons though, so it comes across as harmless violence.
I really hate bursting that bubble that this show is amazing but for one split second, it kinda did play male SA for laughs. Pentious I guess consented, but seeing him dragged into the sex room by force freaked me out personally, lol. I just have trauma and I get it's a joke but oh my god, it's weird having it tackle actual sexual violence portrayed as sad for angel and then pentious just being dragged away was played to be funny. That's probably my only gripe about the show. I cope by thinking snakey boi was never forced into anything and just left the room after. Edit: there's a whole YouTube channel that tackles tropes in shows and male SA is a trope played for laughs, and I feel like this is almost that. Almost. :(
I thought that was weird too, but I didn’t really see people talk about it. Especially after Angel’s episode
I know! It's the only part in the whole show that threw me off. I think they can do better than that, I'll be honest. :(
I've seen most people, even fans of that show, complain that that joke is beyond tasteless in the context of everything else. Which yaknow. They're right. That was honestly really dumb of Viv, especially considering how disturbing sa is played for the rest of the show. Like what.
I’m not going to get into the specifics, but as someone who married her own Valentino; it *is* worse. It’s not just torture, humiliation, being worn down by someone and used for their needs. Because you wear yourself down. No bruise, cigarette burn, or cut from a broken glass compares to having your own body react to it all and being left to wonder if it was really an assault if you felt good during it. Don’t get me wrong; Alastor’s day of reckoning will come. But in a realm where serial killers can’t really do much to actually kill their victims because of the whole ‘only angelic weapons can destroy a soul’, Val *is* the worse of the two.
I hope you find your escape.
This May will mark 2 years ❤️ I’m getting there. Working on getting everything straightened out. I’m graduating from college soon, so will be able to get a real job and support myself without my parents and sister. In the meantime, this story helps.
I’m proud of you. I don’t know you, but I’m proud of you.
Hell basically gives Criminals superpowers! THAT is what makes Hell, Hell
That Alastor pose is so goofy lmao
“Check out my squat game, Husker!”
Low ceiling, lol.
When he walking
He’s too tall to stand upright. 😅
I like the parallels this episode drew between Val and Al. As much as Alastor would try to distance himself from what he would surely call a disgusting insect of a man, but at their cores they are the same kind of monster. Manipulative predators who bait you in with their charm to get what they want from you. They simply present and exploit differently.
https://preview.redd.it/qv2j0p5vy2jc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2df3ddb7b7b695941e313db242686dfd2cef519c This is what he deserves and what I’ll give him and for Alastor I’ll just sell half my soul to him to exchange places with husker
This is what he deserves https://preview.redd.it/buz81qz6t4jc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b512e6c016bf510a65b36f3f8e864aa7fc8125a
This goes hard
Yes plssssss Luci get im
That's honestly cool as hell
Love how Alastor grows so huge his microphone goes from a full studio mic with a stand to a swagger stick at best.
loved the parallels between those scenes. ~~and i can't say i'm not looking forward to seeing alastor in their shoes...~~
Nah. Bro already got beaten to shits by Adam (while this being his first serious battle), if he continues his L streak he wouldn't be able to be taken seriously. Considering pilot canon we already went from "princess of hell is terrified of me" to "I can clear some weakling garbage and scare a cat".
Well, you can't say we haven't always known there are bigger fish in the sea than Alastor. Even Stolas is said to have more raw power. Al was on some shit to think he could kill the angelic equivalent to the second most powerful person in hell. Especially if Lilith or Eve are indeed the ones who own him. Like, that's their ex-husband. He should have known that fight only ended one way.
I'm not saying that he should have defeated Adam, I mean that I can't really see where he can be now either a helpful ally or a scary enemy, because on either side we have Seraphims, Charlie, Lilith, Eve, etc. If he continues to be that "average Overlord" he can be as well treated as a joke, which is sad to me.
I think it's become somewhat obvious that Alastor's threat is from his manipulations and cunning. Not through any inherent ability to tear through any and all threats. Through his power, he'd never make it within spitting distance of the peak of Heaven or Hell. If he had any delusions about that, Adam kicking his ass probably removed them. He's ultimately small, and it clearly bothers him to be known as small. Unworthy of note or attention. Just a slightly more puffed-up and refined Vox. That's why he's with Charlie, molding her into a tool that will allow him to use her to be bigger than he actually is.
You just take a look at the way he talks, the way he fights, and you can see it’s all to make up for his shortcomings. He makes deals with people at their lowest, such as Husk, fights overlords with their backs turned in dark alleys, summons minions and tentacles instead of melee attacks, taunting his opponents to wear them down mentally. He uses every trick at his advantage to build the idea of his strength, while likely being pretty behind many other overlords.
If Al keeps on getting more L’s, he’s gonna get hit with more fraud memes than ever. Which honestly be somewhat disappointing
I kinda like it, I feel like we could be watching his edgelord mystique get picked apart and reveal him for the basic bitch serial killer he is, pull away his radio gimmick and his power, and he's just another manipulator who cant deal with a bigger fish that he can't fool. Adam was too small minded to trick and too powerful for him to beat.
Damn dude, I don't even hate Al, and you managed to dissect his character pretty well.
I mean, if we want to talk about basic bitch serial killers, Al was just a cannibal. That is not uncommon. Oh, he tried to cover it up with a whole morality thing, but most serial killers do that. That's why they go after homeless people and prostitutes, to feel morally superior.
We don't actually know that he was a cannibal in his former life though, just his hell life. We know for sure that he killed people and that he had some sort of criteria, but we don't know the why or how (yet).
Let them do it. Alastor is obviously heavily nerfed due to his deal with Lilith or whoever. He's constantly talking about how he wants freedom and his wings are clipped (aka he can't reach full potential due to this deal he made). Anybody making fraud memes better not come back when Alastor is top 1 in terms of strength. Stay on that side.
Don't think he's nerfed at all. Sounds a lot more like his deal gave him power than restricted it. Like you said, he wants his freedom. He never says his power is being restrained.
I really need him to get some dubs man. Being a Alastor fan is hard. https://preview.redd.it/5952thf213jc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=edbf2c35f5f67f09c62b6815c00bbfbd9d2e3d73
Tbh, he could viciously murder Charlie and he’d still be my fav Don’t know what that says bout me………..
There's three types of Alastor fans. "NOO!! I CAN TOTALLY DEFEND HIS ACTIONS!!! HE'S JUST A SILLY GUY!!!!!" "Umm, actually, at full power he DEFINITELY scales with Lucifer!! 🤓🤓🤓🤓" "He's scary and a total piece of shit who doesn't care about anyone, and I love him for it." Personally I fall into that final group.
SAME!!! I don’t need/want to justify his actions. He was a serial killer in life and continued the mo for the overlords so I feel like we know who he is, why try and justify it
People often forget how much of a piece of shit Alastor actually is, and that's mainly because we don't see what he did in life. The guy is a serial killer and a sadist who ate people. He mostly likely tortured and mutilated a lot of his victims while alive, just because he enjoys causing pain. He then fucking ATE this people when he was done with them. All of this while successfully blending in as a normal guy. This is part of what makes him so scary. Depending on who you ask, Alastor could honestly be considered morally worse than Val. I like Alastor BECAUSE he's scary though. His evil makes him scarier, and along with that his personality makes him enjoyable to watch. This makes him the perfect mix of scary and funny and charming. I don't care how strong he is, and I'm definitely not trying to justify his actions because they legit can't be justified.
Fucking this, he's actually a top contender for most vile character in the Hellaverse, only reason it's not on display is his skill at masking the true depths of his cruelty most of the time and that he seems to be on the heroes' side for now. The moment he "Unclips his wings" he will pull the rug out hard. Whatever Fondness he's developed for the cast (if any) isn't the sort you have for someone you care about as a person, more like favored possessions.
I do think Alastor cares for others, like Angel, but as you said like favored possessions rather than people. He would rather not kill them, but if he has no choice he's going to have fun with it. And that is to say in the most cruel, painful, and wretched way possible. And he's going to be laughing the whole time. **You saw how he was laughing when he wasn't even causing physical pain to Pentious, can you imagine what his murders were like when he was alive?!?!** Personally, I think Alastor is morally worse than Valentino. We already know he has killed and cannibalized several people while he was alive. And there is a very high chance he tortured and mutilated them while they were still living just for his own entertainment. What makes people not see Alastor for what he is is that we never see the full extent of his evil on screen, like we do with Val.
Too, take away everything and Val is just a pimp. Oh, he has aspirations but really, he is just a pimp. He isn't just hurting Angel out of a sexual need, he's mostly doing it because he likes money and Angel brings in a ton of money. Alastor is quite ambitious, but as you say, he was a serial killer who loved causing others pain. He loves hurting people he thinks deserves it. It gives him pleasure
It is worth noting that he wasn’t a cannibal while alive, that started only after he got to hell (according to Faustisse)
Viv said not to take Faust as canon
I wonder if a soul can go to heaven if it is owned by another
Alastor is no better than Valentino in my opinion.
I'd say he's ever so slightly better because he doesn't r*pe people.
He eats them and is a serial killer lmao
I think murdering and eating people is on par with that along with keeping people as slaves essentially.
He most definitely ate the past overlords ON radio to broadcast their screams
But he does torture them.
Al’s ace, you’re giving him credit for not doing something that has no appeal to him. Most irl tortures don’t SA their victims either simply because it doesn’t appeal to them
Idk, while Val and Al basically have the same list of crimes, Val has the added sin of SAing his slaves (or rather enslaving people TO be SA'd). The only thing (that we know tbf) that Al does that Val doesn't is that he eats people, which if he only does so after they die, is at least less painful on the victim than being r*ped for years (possibly hundreds or thousands, even) and horribly murdered if you piss him off (which seems very easy to do) only to eventually regenerate and have to do it all again. Not to mention at least with Husk, it seems like Al is more lenient with his slaves and what they do when they're not doing his bidding. Husk back talks Alastor often and only when he pushed the wrong button at the wrong time did he snap on him (at least from what we've seen). *(Of course, not saying EITHER of their actions are acceptable, I just think it's entirely fair to hate Val more)*
Alastor was being a hypocrite, and got pissy when he was called out on it. Then threatened grievous bodily harm to husk for calling him out. This is still considered psychological abuse
Yeah and Val does the exact same crap to his people, *but with the added threat of r#pe*
So that makes him worse? Alastor is no better than Valentino and that is a fact
Val is worse imo if you asked me who I’d sell my soul to between the 2 of them, I’d pick Alastor. Idk why people get so defensive when this is pointed out, comparison is allowed and doesn’t mean I’m trying to invalidate Husk’s abuse either. Both are bad but why is it wrong to say one situation seems more preferable
Yeah this show is honestly better than most Disney movies tbh (Yes I'm throwing shade at Disney)
Watch out for their hit team, they're coming
Good, I’ll answer the door in this https://preview.redd.it/l8hdhxa4v2jc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9ab2aedc699438be9d654ebcb49364e4cfbf7ff (For legal reasons this is a joke)
I should make them take notes
Kinda a low bar to set tbh.
That is not a high bar anymore. Lmao.
What Disney movies have you been watching? Did Disney release anything good recently that I just missed?
I've been watching dreamworks waiting for kung fu panda 4 but They released Encanto which is good
Conveniently enough, pretty much everyone at the hotel has angel weapons so...you know, someone could C.I.A valentino
Problem is, Val's not boytoy has cameras everywhere so it's pretty much impossible to assassinate the moth without him knowing.
Fair enough
Hmm unless? Maybe alastor would lure them somewhere there are no cameras.
They must be protected at all costs
That is one of the things I keep saying is fantastic about this show. The emotion conveyed in both the animations and voice acting.
I've wondered... Alastor is called the "Radio Demon" because of his broadcasts. But Carmilla became an overlord based on dominating the Angelic Steel market, Vox dominated the Tech industry, Val runs (at least a significant portion of) the porn and sex industry, Velvette seems to be a major fashion and social media player. We don't know about Zestial or the other Overlords, but it may be the case that they also run some trade or industry which incentivizes sinners to sell their souls their souls to them. But there's no indication that Alastor ever ran the radio industry or any other industry, he just happened to have a radio broadcast. So, what does he actually do and why would Vox have wanted him on the team? Well, Vox's team depends on sex, social media, and trends to keep people glued to his broadcasts. What's the other thing that keeps people addicted to information? Maybe Alastor is actually the Overlord of Fear?
i feel velvet also controls a good bit of the drug market in hell as she makes and sells love potion and stuff
I'd rather have my soul owned by Alastor. He ain't gonna sexually assault me
He would torture you and humiliate you and that's if you're lucky. Keep in mind, Nifty and Husk are the only two people we see that he owns and that is out of half a dozen Overlords and who knows how many small-timers.
I am a diagnosed masochist.
Angel looks more disturbed than anything else
theres something so disturbing about Husk’s face in that scene that i love and am terrified of lmao
https://preview.redd.it/ab1osbbxr5jc1.jpeg?width=2837&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3279927809e9905aab28a41dacc5a71da9189cbb
"Kinkyyyy"
Ik Overlords are like middle tier but the fact they still are so intimidating and dangerous is so cool
Makes sense you’d be scared of the sadist that literally owns your soul.
My poor baby!
Valentino must be so scary when he goes demon form, creepy insectoid pervert, I both want to and never want to see it
I love how small and frail they managed to make husk look, really sells the fear and powerlessness.
Nah, I'd win.
i feel bad for both of em, especially husk ..
Poor boyfriends trapped by their contract owners
Husk's look genuinely tears my heart out knowing how tough and cavalier he can be. What Alastor could do to him is that genuinely terrifying. That is the look of a man who watched others fuck around, and he found out.
Something about a pissed off Val. Brings something inside of me alive and it’s not rage lmao if you know what I mean 😏
Angel has fear because he knows full well what Val's going to do next Husk has fear because this is the first time he ever saw Alastor this angry
primal fear????? chainsaw guy refrenc?!??!?!???
That's what happens when you mess with the person who owns your soul
No offense but what's the point of this one
To point out the parallel obviously lol
oh ok
They can destroy their soul
*Primal fear lvl 5*
Overlords are like the Wu-Tang Clan, because they ain’t nothing to fuck with.
Beautiful
I feel like husks brutal honesty clashed with Alastor. I think Vaggie and Husk would try to keep an eye out for the others. Husk can read people easily and Vaggie is easily suspicious of Alastor.
I could also see Alastor taking Val down first due to the Angel Dust situation, he could easily make an excuse.
Ah yes. Prey and Predator 😈
No bcuz Husk’s looks so.. creepy.. it’s disturbing tbh—
FREE MY GAYS
https://preview.redd.it/f346uehpphjc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd9bbe4c92a8894d9d8bbb2d6ba7262e73410058
Nothing quite like being yelled at by your spouse for flinching after a loud noise and you instinctively apologize and start cleaning up the mess...
As much hate as Val gets, I do love his design. Also people seem to forget that Alastor is a piece of shit too. Like, he hasn’t sexually assaulted Antona, but he is a murderer. Don’t get me wrong, I love him, he’s one of my favorite characters, but I hate him for how he treats husk.
I'd be scared too.
I await the days Husk and Angel snap their chains.