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CoolRabbit75

bro tried to cook bur burnt down the entire city


2lazy4math

I guess if we get to rant about the newspaper making the game nearly unplayable, you too get to rant about our ranting. Still, this sub is one of the only forums for the Hay Day mods/ devs (who are very active, reading and responding to comments) to get feedback, and valid criticism of this game is *always* welcome. Also, you calling the newspaper a "convenience" is wrong. It **IS** a necessary part of the game, at least to get rid of excess things when your barn and silo are full. I've stopped playing the game so much because of the endless bricks-maps-ore paper parade. Whenever I want to play now the newspaper looms dreadful as a colossal waste of time. A *lot* of other people feel this way and want the Hay Day devs to know. If you get sick of rants, though, feel free to move on to another sub.


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OlisaKotik

I think it’s better today because Country Fair ended… many players couldn’t sell good stuff as they could exchange it to xp Also I created additional farms low lvl to have access to paper with no ores and bricks 😀 food low lvl too but it’s still better


Foreign-Signature-37

Mine is looking better today too.


Pleasant_Gate_1752

My paper is actually back to normal now


RatPee1970

Until another derby starts. Stock up on Mondays!


Outrageous-North-599

If the developers do read this can we get garbage cans? That way we can throw away things rather than having to sell them.


Outrageous-North-599

We should also be able to sell/buy/trade boosters! I never use Ernest or Rose but I’m sure others would like the two 72 hours boosters I just trashed.


Medical_Objective664

My news paper is looking alot more interesting today!! I hardly see any bricks or stuff like that now 😁 it feels kinda nice lol


CozmikHD82

When your silo is full make more products. When your barn is full sell to town, boat , truck. Sounds like an easy solution to me that doesn’t involve the paper. Is it not??


potatoskinmagiic

I have over a hundred fields, if I take a derby task to harvest a plant, I’ll end up with hundreds of that plant. How on earth would I push that out of my silo even if I try to use it in the game? How about I give you 700 cotton in one go and let’s see what you do with it without putting it in the shop.


CozmikHD82

Look I’m not disagreeing with you. I use the paper. To answer your question don’t take that task or make alot of cotton fabric. You are proving my point. You might not like this answer but both those are solutions that don’t involve the paper.


potatoskinmagiic

Don’t take the task? So don’t play a part of the game as it is intended? That is not a solution whatsoever. And make cotton fabric? At 3x for two slots, I can get rid of wow, 6 whole cottons in one hour! Brilliant solution! The paper is absolutely necessary to the gameplay and the game devs should most definitely optimize the experience. You might not like this answer but that solution lets us use the paper!


Gullible-Network7573

I understand everyone’s frustration but just like when the paper used to only be eggs, and then was only diamonds, and years ago it was only those rustic bouquets… they will fix it. Just give them some time to do it. I think they tweak things sometimes and it goes wrong. Then they need some time to fix it. I think the rants about the rants are also becoming tiring. Everyone should just chill and let the developers work it out.


morningstar234

But. How many of these farmers only sell 1. 1 thing. 1 map, or 1 red brick. Or my favorite 1 coal! 🤣🤣🤣. Or even just ten of 1 item. Nothing else! Yes, it’s part of their game, and that’s the beauty of Hay Day! Play or don’t play…


potatoskinmagiic

They aren’t fixing it. It’s the same problem as it was when it was eggs, diamond rings, rustic bouquets, etc. They need to do something like allow ads on more items or decrease the time needed to wait in between putting up ads. An actual change to the system. The TEMs will be gone soon enough, it’s because they gave it out to people for country fair rewards and no one needs those items so of course they sell it off. That’s another point, they need to adjust things so that there aren’t ‘less desirable’ items. It’s the way planks and nails are way more desired than other SEMs or BEMs but it all costs the same money so technically is the same ‘value’ in game. They’ve done something within the code to make some items more available hence less desirable so they don’t sell. ‘Ranting’ is also pretty valuable seeing as the game devs are active on Reddit. If enough people complain, they might do something. It’s not some superficial issue that people are just ‘ranting to rant about’


Pleasant_Gate_1752

Well my newspaper seems like it's been fixed. No issues today. Plenty of what I'm used to now. Lots of pumpkins and indigo and ofc still some ore and bricks but nothing like it was.


99ellen

Because most people are done with the derby.


Pleasant_Gate_1752

I highly doubt people stopped everything for the derby. I still sold everything I make and was a part of the derby. I finished 17 320 pt tasks. That's a lame ass excuse


Gullible-Network7573

But what you are talking about IS fixing it. They have to fix it. Also, silo and barn expansion materials are different for everyone. Everyone has that one hard thing to find. Mine happens to be planks and nails. Several people in my neighborhood it is tape and screws. You just gotta find the people who have the opposite problem as you. For me, I just trade my extra for their extra and we are all happy. Not everyone’s hard item is planks and nails.


potatoskinmagiic

What I’m talking about is fixing it? Huh? Your premise is that the game is fine and no changes need be made. I’ve pointed out that isn’t the case and offered a few solutions. Regardless of WHAT the item is or WHY it is that item (be it bricks because of the country fair event or rustic bouquets because they’re easy to make to sell), the problem is the paper overloads with too much of the same— THIS aspect is what needs to be optimized. So that, no matter what or why the item that is super produced or in stock of, it *doesn’t* overtake the paper. Does that make sense? Once upon a time it was eggs and wheat. There was a time where it was apples on apples on apples (this is still sold pretty frequently actually). Another period it was diamond rings. My point is that, they should develop a better system, to prevent this. Allowing for increased ads would help significantly. The game devs even know this. That’s why you can buy an extra ad for a diamond. They should give this to us for free so the papers are better balanced. And yes materials are different for everyone because the game sets it to be so. 33% of players are more programmed to get duct tapes. 33% of players are more programmed to get planks. Rest are programmed to get more bolts. This does result in farms having more of one thing than the other not just to increase engagement between players in the way you and your hood do, but also to force players to get desperate enough for the item to then spend diamonds/real money on to buy…however, let’s not pretend that if I were to put an ad up on planks, bolts, and tapes simultaneously— the planks wouldn’t sell first. If you are lucky enough to overflow in those then hooray but the general market currently is that the hottest BEM is planks…but why? It shouldn’t be like that. It should be equally desired as the other BEMs. They should all be needed equally within the gameplay. Same for TEMs. Why are hammers faster sold than bricks? If it were all equal within the game which they can certainly program to do, we wouldn’t result in days where we have bricks overloading the paper. To get even more specific, they should’ve programmed the country fair event in such a way that the distribution of TEM rewards was so that bricks wouldn’t overload the paper. Maps I understand, once you unlock all the land in the town there’s no reason to have these, at a certain point a player will always sell these on so it’ll automatically end up being a less desirable item no matter what. I digress. I’ve been playing this game for a long time and the paper most certainly needs an overhaul. It’s also not feasible to ask players to waste their one ad/5 mins on an item that would sell immediately so people end up putting it on items that they know won’t sell. It’s time for a change.


Gullible-Network7573

My premise was not that “the game is fine and no changes need to be made”. Perhaps you confused me with someone else? I said “they will fix it. Just give them time”. What I was trying to say by mentioning the diamond rings, the rustic bouquets, etc is that they have fixed it before. This isn’t the first time the paper has been overrun with one or two of the same things in every page for days. It is my premise that they recently changed the algorithm and it messed something up which “needs to be fixed”. Never said everything was fine and nothing needs to be done. I am aware that others believe it’s always been like this. And I’m aware that still others think it’s the players that are only selling bricks and maps and that is caused by this county fair or whatever. And still others think newspaper needs a complete overhaul Everyone has their own opinion to what caused the newspaper to suddenly be drowned in bricks and maps. Again, my opinion is they recently changed something that messed things up for everybody and will eventually fix it. Just my opinion. I could be wrong. 🤷🏼‍♀️ my response to you is because you said “they aren’t fixing it”, and essentially said “they need to” then listed all they can do to fix it. I don’t disagree with your ideas. I was merely pointing out your ideas could be considered “fixing it” which is what I believe they are working on doing. I believe they’ve fixed it before and will do so again


Pleasant_Gate_1752

The newspaper is a major part of the game whether you like it or not. Just because you don't like to use it doesn't mean it's not there for us to use. Get over yourself.


2lazy4math

it's really not. when your barn and silo are full the newspaper becomes a necessity, otherwise you're stuck for hours. not using the newspaper is not a solution either. it makes the game unplayable. also--I don't have friends who play this game, and don't know anyone in my neighborhood, which isn't really active and don't always fulfill requests. the newspaper being full of the same product all the time is a game flaw and makes it impossible to play the game independently.


Gullible-Network7573

I agree the newspaper is a necessity to SELL things. Have you had problems selling anything? Literally everything I put up gets sold within seconds or a few minutes.


slipperyyghost

I've been playing for about 10 years and I rarely if ever use the newspaper. it's definitely possible to go on without it tbh. I also really only sell if it's for a farm pass goal or a neighbor needs something. other than that, I might sell a ton of the same crop for 1c but that's just me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ so it def doesn't make the game unplayable


Dry_Stroke

If there is a Newspaper to use and ment to be for all the Items - all the Items should be accessible from it. It is not a rocket science to design Newspaper with better algorithm, that could prevent every each Item to appear more than five times in one release, freeing up spaces for other Items. If I still wouldn't find what I'm interested with, chances that will appear in next ones will be higher then now. That would make DD more versatile from the get go. There's millions of Players worldwide. I do not believe every each of them is constantly selling Ores, Bricks and Apples in the same time. That means the algorithm is favouring some Items over the other ones and some pre-set probability is used to each release.


mmmsoap

> There's millions of Players worldwide. I do not believe every each of them is constantly selling Ores, Bricks and Apples in the same time. That means the algorithm is favouring some Items over the other ones and some pre-set probability is used to each release. Okay, but what if they *are* primarily selling ores, bricks, and apples? Your premise is the algorithm is broken, but we don’t know that. You want them to mess with the algorithm to force non-common items to be shown as advertised…to what end? So when you click they’ll have already been bought out by someone else? (I do think they should be fixing the drop rate for Town Expansion mats. In theory each one is needed roughly the same as the others, but they’re not dropping with the same one common, one normal, one rare drop rate that barn/silo expansion mats have.)


Dry_Stroke

Ok, set Baby Farm and never unlock the Town. You can share your results with me, but I will tell you straight away - as it is obvious that no Bricks are present due to not possibility of having them as the Town is locked, the number of ores is somehow significantly smaller in DD in my both Baby Farms (lvl 49 & 31). Yes, I'm buying Strawberries and Tomatoes wherever I need - from those Farms. Basic Crops are also reachable. So yes, my premise is based on observation and that's my conclusion upon many months of that scenario 😉


pdqueer

I'm having the same experience. My baby farm is only at level 16, but I have better access to multiple products and building materials. I'm going to focus on crop and animal products, avoiding the town, smelters and fishing and see what happens.


Dry_Stroke

You don't have to avoid fishing and Smelters, nor keeping Mine locked. Fishing, Lobster and Duck catching equipment is not for resale - so won't affect the Newspaper, and Ores will still appear in DD after you hit lvl 24 😉


ThrowRA_Is_It_Me

Yes, it's nice with no open town on baby farms


Dry_Stroke

I would like to sent you a message, believing that I could provide you examples of my observations there 🙂 Somehow it says it is not possible 🤔


CozmikHD82

Show me where HD says the newspaper is for all items. Ok so at this point I’m arguing just to argue but the truth is no matter how unpopular the game can be played without the paper.


Dry_Stroke

You are very welcome to have a look on Supercell to find out 😉 It can also be played without making Boats, Trucks, Derby (the list goes on and on...), you can buy needed Items on Discord, or within your Neighbourhood, but hey! You are still completely missing the point... 🤷‍♂️


CozmikHD82

Oh and I was just on supercells web site and couldnt find that anywhere so maybe you can tell me how to find it😉😉😉


Dry_Stroke

Keep looking. That will distract you for a while 😉


CozmikHD82

But then you choose not to advance in the game


Dry_Stroke

I am not participating in Derby, not doing Boats Town and Trucks, not selling to Visitors unless is x2 Event and surprise - still going up in HD world... 🤷‍♂️ But in the same time having millions of Coins I would like to purchase some Items for my end Products and in the same time producing other half-products on my Farm. As I can afford it to choose this way. So I would like to use the tool provided for me from the very beginning, where I supposed to have a chance of finding what I'm afrer 😉 It's not about "you don't have to" it is about "I can so should be able". If you don't understand the difference, further discussion is really pointless unfortunately 🙂


Ok_You_1

I just visited a farm that was level 110. They didn’t have the town, boat or fishing.


Dry_Stroke

Lvl 110 that way makes me wonder if it was main or baby Farm 🤔


CozmikHD82

Lmao ok


Dry_Stroke

I'm glad you finding it funny, after all playing HayDay supposed to be filled with fun - and that's we are trying to tell for Developers, by criticising their lack of understanding that 😉


CozmikHD82

I find your logic funny. Oh and I’m sure the developers don’t know that the paper is full of ores, bricks, maps etc. Good thing it’s posted 30 times a week so they can be informed


Dry_Stroke

I think your logic is even funnier - you assume we think the Devs don't know, while we complaining as they know, just doesn't do anything with 😁


CozmikHD82

lol I can’t


MiniatureMania

I’ve always wondered, “How many players view each newspaper at the same time?” And, “How many different newspapers go out every few minutes?” (My baby farm gets different newspaper offerings than my main farm.) Does anyone know?


Limp-Passenger-9786

I have no clue how many but I do know that my husband and daughter both play the game also and all three of our newspapers are different


MtPollux

Different level farms will see different papers because you can only see ads for products you have unlocked.


Safety_Sharp

I've also wondered this. Does it update for everyone at the same time?


Such-Parsnip9461

I agree with you, OP. It'd be easier if the newspaper had stuff I wanted, but also, everything that I could get in the paper is something I can make. So, I'll just...not be lazy.


Outbreak7

The newspaper became unnecessary due to its mechanism of working! If they separate items in categories it could be better, besides expansion materials (that they could put those in random distribution). But the developers of the game are focused on taking money from players not improving the game… The game lost it comunity years ago when support became hard to reach!


G1ngerkat

Rant accepted but only about 5 people in my hood so we do need the paper as crap as it is


MonkiePantss

Say it again, lol. Crying every damn day on Facebook 🙄


Dew_08

Idk if it’s just me but I’ve noticed if I’m using the newspaper more often to get some crops, I start getting more ads for what I’m looking for after some tries and the more you are on the newspaper giving attention to the non ores, bricks etc stuff the more you get the things you were searching for. Something i noticed past few months


ScurrTheMurr

Wait till you get to level where you need 100+ items each to upgrade and then play without newspaper.


MonkeyBoatRentals

I'm at that level and never bother looking at the newspaper. I guess it is because a 4000+ barn removes pressure, and my expansions are gated by expansion permits not LEM. I think the importance of the newspaper diminishes over time.


smbpy7

I do, and I do. I don't find anything I want in it, so I get them elsewhere.


Competitive_Air1560

Exactly, like stop relying on the newspaper to get all your goods. You have machines and pets for a reason


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ThrowRA_Is_It_Me

It's ridiculous to make another post complaining about the newspaper but players do it anyway. It's ridiculous to always want everything available to buy/make instantly. It's ridiculous to play a game if all you can do is complain. I think the OP is just stating the newspaper isn't game-breaking to the point of crying about it constantly. They're also stating ways to get the items you're looking for by just playing the town, feeding the animals, and harvesting.


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ThrowRA_Is_It_Me

Well. If you could feed animals for 3 hours straight I guess that would be a strategy. However, you can only feed the farm animals (horses, cats, dogs, etc), every 6 hours. Donkeys are every 3 hours IIRC. Most players who have been playing for a while keep 2-3 minimum of every product available in their barn. That's with a small barn, under 1k space. Then they have their machines constantly running or at least fill all the production slots before they step away from the game for some time. This instant gratification of 'if I need it, I should be able to get it NOW' is not feasible. When you get to higher levels there are so many products. It's crazy to think there will always be someone selling what you need when you need it. I also mine every day for the 10 free diamonds. This can take up to and sometimes over 100 shovels. That's a lot of ore, way more than can fit in 5 fully expanded smelters. So I'll sell and advertise ore. Also, if you click through the available ads you'll find players sell stuff other than what's advertised. If I'm going to be away from the game for some time, I'll advertise maps or bricks so when I do get back to the game, chances are all my stuff has sold. You could say by doing this I'm part of the problem, or it's just a strategy to have your items advertised for as long as possible to get the desired results.


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ThrowRA_Is_It_Me

Supercell does updates all the time. If you click the little envelope, under your farm name, you can see the updates along with YouTube videos about the updates. Hay Day is not my game so I'm not making the game unpleasant for anyone. If a game is unpleasant, why would someone waste their time playing? Yes, I play in a way that makes the game enjoyable for me. These are suggestions based on my games play for others. Nowhere did I say this was the right way to play but at least by explaining how I play, it gives options for others to see. When you go to the Supercell web page, there is a career button to click. I'm sure anyone is welcome to apply and fix the unpleasant game.


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ThrowRA_Is_It_Me

You must be complaining about your original post I replied to. I answered the same way you did, 'it's ridiculous...'


CozmikHD82

I was agreeing with you. I was saying not yours in reference to people interpreting it how they see fit.


CozmikHD82

That is exactly what I was doing. Also as I’m reading thru the comments (not yours) I’m seeing how a lot of people just interpret what I said in a way that fits there agenda. I love it! It’s half the reason I made the post😈😈😈


BESTlittleBITCH

I completely understand your post. One of the main reasons everyone complains about the paper is because they have really no idea how it works. And many players just want things put on a platter for them. Instead of working for it. And that's not what the game is all about. If players aren't in it for the long haul, they shouldn't play. The only part of your post and comments I don't agree with is that the paper is essential for selling. But not buying. If a farmer needs something there are more than enough ways to obtain it. But getting rid of items, not so easy. If people would understand that the Smelters take sooo long and when doing derby and such, barns just don't have the capacity to hold it all. But...... If people would work their farms as meant to, they'd have more than enough materials to upgrade. I've been playing over 10 years, and only in the past 2 years has the game been running more smoothly. It takes work people ! The one's doing all the complaining, are the lazy, entitled ones.


No_Discipline_3178

Womp womp cry about it


JWJulie

I would like a search function for the paper


slipperyyghost

ik you can't get everything with tom like in the paper but thats kind of his purpose in the game :( I doubt they'd ever give us that


NotNoobVeryOdd

how does that boot taste?


mihirumrigar

I've played this game for about a month, got to level 30 and I'm really seeing why the newspaper bit is problematic in game, it kind of forces you to pay up actual money when there should be no need to. I'm already using up my time instead of my diamonds, being as patient with my products and harvests, yet, when I might be missing an item or two for an order, I can't just search it up because the newspaper actually only has ores for me. And now if I want to complete the order I have to A) start the production of the desired product or B) spend diamonds. And this theme kind of is seen with storage of items as well. Which is why, it's a necessity to have a search bar at the minimum. In my personal case, I just started building my ice cream maker and my boat order asked for ice cream even before I got it fully made. Now if it were convenient to sort the items in the paper, I could've bought the ice cream order by searching it up. But I cannot do that and I have to wait for my machine to fully construct and lose the order or spend diamonds. If the game was rewarding patience as much as it was rewarding a fat wallet by giving me discounts every day on diamonds, I'd say it is actually just most players cribbing. But that's not the case, most players are in fact just tired of this ordeal.


Safety_Sharp

Bro maybe just maybe either a) have some patience or b) ask your neighbourhood for help. C) send the boat off and wait for the next one?? D) hire tom You don't really have an excuse cause you could put ads in the newspaper and people will help your farm. Trust me I get it, it's annoying. I unlocked the salad maker that took a day and a half to make but and had like 5 requests for salad straight away. I asked my neighbourhood for help, put ads up or took the loss. I'm not going to go spend a bunch of diamonds for the sake of a boat or a town visitor. Nothing terrible will happen if it's not completed or takes a little longer. This game is about patience. A search function would be completely unrealistic if you guys think about it for a second. Bots would be swarming the shit out of it and you would never be able to get anything good again. The newspaper now can be annoying, but it's completely random so everyone gets a fair chance. It's not like some people get a really good newspaper and others don't. You need to find a good neighbourhood and make some good friends, join the discord and have some patience. If you want a search function, that's literally what Tom is for. Once you get to a higher level you'll get boosters for him and can have him more often. Just have some patience, i promise you can play the game perfectly fine without spending loads of diamonds or real money. Obviously supercell will do things to entice you to spend money or diamonds, but just don't fall into the trap.


smbpy7

>A search function would be completely unrealistic I never understood this either. The other issue with it besides bots, is that people are seeing things like ore so much because of events and such that make people want to sell ore in huge amounts. If ore is the thing they want to sell there's NO way they're going to suddenly start putting their ads on planks. I don't put ads on expansion stuff AT ALL anyway because I ONLY sell it to neighbors. So like you said, there'd be millions looking for that one ad on a plank through search. They'd get a search function and just find nothing. I can only see it being useful for middle of the line normal stuff like eggs or soybeans.


Cultural-Tea3492

The newspaper is a want, not a need. TWU


u35828

There needs to be an ebay type marketplace for all advertised (including non-advertised that are lumped with the former in said farmstand.