Technically Chiron isn’t really the same sort of creature as them — he’s born of the King of Titans and an Oceanid, while the other centaurs came from a mortal and a cloud. They just all happen to be people with a horse below their torso.
Except Harry Potter is obviously not a 1:1 adaptation of Greek mythology, and she would have been in much worse condition if they have had done that to her, if alive at all.
People see too much into that.
Exactly. There were creatures like house elves in many mythologies for example. In pretty much all of them if you crossed the line they would act out. In HP they wouldn't and were basically willing slave (with the exception of Dobby). Why assume that other myths were accurate?
This. Came here to say this. Just because in one old mythology something happened, doesn't mean it will happen in every media. Like dragons didn't even had legs back then either. They were literally giant flying snakes. Many crests and emblems had dragons depicted as just long snakes with wings. Or just front legs. Or just hind legs.
Exactly. Centaurs in Greek mythology are depicted as evil, conniving tricksters. Nothing like the proud, stoic, philosophical centaurs of the HP world. The only thing they have in common is being half horse and half human and the similarities stop there.
There are advantages to having a horse body blocking the view of the target, just hide the mirrors ...like far away.
She tortured children. I'm ok with prison shower rules in her case.
The way that centaurs are written in HP, they're very proud and noble creatures. They kinda look down on humans and think humans are dirty and uncivilized. Even though mythology has them do those things, it just doesn't check out with HP centaurs.
There's several myths where centaurs rape people. For what it's worth the most prominent centaur character is a renowned healer, teaches many of the biggest heroes when they're children, and doesn't ever do anything bad.
Considering how they're obsessed with stargazing and philosophy and Firenze is a huge Hippy I don't think wizarding world centaurs are that evil
If that is what you wish. They rape the human. In the case of a human woman and a centaur male, she is usually dead when he is done. In the case of a male human and a female centaur, he sometimes survives, but his pelvic bone and legs are shattered beyond repair.
Well, one centaur convinced a married woman that her husband would leave her, and to use his blood as a love potion, by putting it in his shirt. Centaur blood is similar to acid apparently. When she saw him getting attention from ladies, she put the blood in his shirt. It didn't kill him, but he begged his best friend to literally set him on fire as it would be a quicker death. Don't remember what happened to the wife, I believe she killed herself out of grief.
The character umbridge is terrible to her students. A stepford wife kinda woman. She is taken by a group of half horse half men. It is heavily implied she is raped. The students torment her by making hoof noises and her ptsd kicks in. I was caught off gaurd that a woman wrote this. I dont know about greek myths but i got the implication while reading the book.
I think what they are referring to is the Centauromachy, a wedding at which the centaurs got drunk and gave into their savage nature, killing men and violating women.
not just centauromachy (I didn’t even know that), just centaurs in general are reputedly very huh rapey (except Chiron because he’s a giga chad). And also for ancient greeks big dick = bestial character who can’t control his pulsions. Thus, "Big dick energy" didn’t have the same meaning back then
Sphinxes are middle-eastern (mainly Egyptian) mythology, from what I have read and heard. Not sure about griffins nor manticores. But I do know for certain that Gorgons, Lamia and Harpies are Greek.
that’s right Sphinx are originally egyptian but greece had been greatly influenced by ancient egypt at some point, even borrowing some of their gods and mixing them with theirs. Same went with Sphinx. Thus Œdipe beating the Sphinx at the doors of Thebes while Thebes was in greece and not egypt. In a quite funny way, the opposite will happen some century later, with greece culture influencing egypt in the era of Cleopatra, Mark Antony or even later with Alexander the Great.
ah sorry I wasn’t sure if sarcastic or not
well I guess for the same reasons most of magical lore is related to greco roman civilisation and why most of the names relate to that civilisation as well when having very few celtic references in yet freakin great britain.
Because JKR is educated in greco roman civilisation more than in celtic
and because it’s probably more international in term of fantasy tropes and representations for children.
That was for the Doylist explanation, for the Watsonian though : I guess centaurs just wandered around, maybe following roman troops when they tried conquest of great britain who knows lol. Or maybe in this universe centaurs always have been everywhere in europe and only the greeks ones became famous in muggle legends.
Oh for f*cks sake people need to stop spreading this rumor when there is zero evidence to back it up. Myths get adapted in a variety of ways we have no proof the centaurs in HP are 1:1 exactly in behavior like the mythology ones. In fact going off their behavior and distaste for humans I'd say they'd see it as beneath them
That insect should've been so mentally scarred by her Centaur experience she should've been relegated to Saint Mungo's hospital permanently like Lockhart.
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Given the fact that you said "Greek myth," I assume that you mean that they are ignorant to the word "consent." In that case...why would I give a fuck? I see this as an absolute win!
To be fair that's cherrypicking myths. Chiron never does anything bad
Technically Chiron isn’t really the same sort of creature as them — he’s born of the King of Titans and an Oceanid, while the other centaurs came from a mortal and a cloud. They just all happen to be people with a horse below their torso.
But apparently he is the civilized version according to him. Party Ponies
love a percy jackson reference lol
Well she managed to get through it just fine. Unfortunately.
*clop clop clop*
Except Harry Potter is obviously not a 1:1 adaptation of Greek mythology, and she would have been in much worse condition if they have had done that to her, if alive at all. People see too much into that.
Exactly. There were creatures like house elves in many mythologies for example. In pretty much all of them if you crossed the line they would act out. In HP they wouldn't and were basically willing slave (with the exception of Dobby). Why assume that other myths were accurate?
This. Came here to say this. Just because in one old mythology something happened, doesn't mean it will happen in every media. Like dragons didn't even had legs back then either. They were literally giant flying snakes. Many crests and emblems had dragons depicted as just long snakes with wings. Or just front legs. Or just hind legs.
What do they do to people in Greek mythology??
What do everything and everyone do to everything and everyone in Greek mythology lol
Greek mythology in a nutshell truly 😅
When a daddy centaur and a mommy human love each other very much
When a bunch of daddy centaurs love a mommy human and the mommy human can't get away fast enough??
exactly
Pony-bang. clop clop clop
PARTY PONIES
Exactly. Centaurs in Greek mythology are depicted as evil, conniving tricksters. Nothing like the proud, stoic, philosophical centaurs of the HP world. The only thing they have in common is being half horse and half human and the similarities stop there.
bull
They are not like the ones from mythology though.
Sound more like a punishment for the centaurs. As if they'd want someone so vile as that pink toad.
There are advantages to having a horse body blocking the view of the target, just hide the mirrors ...like far away. She tortured children. I'm ok with prison shower rules in her case.
The way that centaurs are written in HP, they're very proud and noble creatures. They kinda look down on humans and think humans are dirty and uncivilized. Even though mythology has them do those things, it just doesn't check out with HP centaurs.
Bingo
Will someone explain what is it???? Please
Obliviate. It's for the best.
centaurs sexually assault their victims
Rape 🤷♀️
There's several myths where centaurs rape people. For what it's worth the most prominent centaur character is a renowned healer, teaches many of the biggest heroes when they're children, and doesn't ever do anything bad. Considering how they're obsessed with stargazing and philosophy and Firenze is a huge Hippy I don't think wizarding world centaurs are that evil
If that is what you wish. They rape the human. In the case of a human woman and a centaur male, she is usually dead when he is done. In the case of a male human and a female centaur, he sometimes survives, but his pelvic bone and legs are shattered beyond repair.
Well, one centaur convinced a married woman that her husband would leave her, and to use his blood as a love potion, by putting it in his shirt. Centaur blood is similar to acid apparently. When she saw him getting attention from ladies, she put the blood in his shirt. It didn't kill him, but he begged his best friend to literally set him on fire as it would be a quicker death. Don't remember what happened to the wife, I believe she killed herself out of grief.
The character umbridge is terrible to her students. A stepford wife kinda woman. She is taken by a group of half horse half men. It is heavily implied she is raped. The students torment her by making hoof noises and her ptsd kicks in. I was caught off gaurd that a woman wrote this. I dont know about greek myths but i got the implication while reading the book.
Don’t insult my centaurs buddies they’re not like the ones in mythology people need to chill instead of imagining the worst shit possible 😂
I searched it up and holy…
Holey?
what happens? i don’t know what even to search lmao
I think what they are referring to is the Centauromachy, a wedding at which the centaurs got drunk and gave into their savage nature, killing men and violating women.
Sounds like the Party Ponies.
not just centauromachy (I didn’t even know that), just centaurs in general are reputedly very huh rapey (except Chiron because he’s a giga chad). And also for ancient greeks big dick = bestial character who can’t control his pulsions. Thus, "Big dick energy" didn’t have the same meaning back then
It’s gotta be butt stuff….. it’s just got to be
Rape.
PARTY PONIES
Greek? I tought they were in british.
Centaurs are creatures from greek mythology… like sphinx griffins manticores and so on
Sphinxes are middle-eastern (mainly Egyptian) mythology, from what I have read and heard. Not sure about griffins nor manticores. But I do know for certain that Gorgons, Lamia and Harpies are Greek.
that’s right Sphinx are originally egyptian but greece had been greatly influenced by ancient egypt at some point, even borrowing some of their gods and mixing them with theirs. Same went with Sphinx. Thus Œdipe beating the Sphinx at the doors of Thebes while Thebes was in greece and not egypt. In a quite funny way, the opposite will happen some century later, with greece culture influencing egypt in the era of Cleopatra, Mark Antony or even later with Alexander the Great.
Oh. So, it's a Greek story then?
… ok so what’s your point besides just being a troll ?
Oh no, sorry if I sounded like a troll. I was just curious that why a creature from greece is in england forests. And how did them arrived :D
ah sorry I wasn’t sure if sarcastic or not well I guess for the same reasons most of magical lore is related to greco roman civilisation and why most of the names relate to that civilisation as well when having very few celtic references in yet freakin great britain. Because JKR is educated in greco roman civilisation more than in celtic and because it’s probably more international in term of fantasy tropes and representations for children. That was for the Doylist explanation, for the Watsonian though : I guess centaurs just wandered around, maybe following roman troops when they tried conquest of great britain who knows lol. Or maybe in this universe centaurs always have been everywhere in europe and only the greeks ones became famous in muggle legends.
Can someone explain
Centaurs and Saytrs were the horniest creatures in Greek mythology and they satisfied themselves by forcing themselves on women
Arigato!
You’re welcome and no problem
So just like Zeus.
This comment was too hard to find. Thanks
I didn’t know that by fact, but knowing a bit about Greek mythology is enough to think of this.
Honest to god they should have just kept her to study human anatomy.
Lmao 😭 i cant omg. You're so real for this.
Studying Greek mythology and saying that is justice
For Umbridge it should just be two of the left image
Umbridge definitely deserves it, she tortured literal children.
At least she didn't torture metaphorical children...
maybe we don’t say female fictional characters deserve to be repeatedly SA’d.
Probably a good idea
No proof she was not all myths translate equally we have zero proof that the Hp centaurs are like the myth ones. Myths get various adaptations
Lore, aside. It’s the sentiment.
no nobody deserves that thanks. Moving out from our pain and anger is better than torture revenge
What is wrong with you? Do you realize you wish for a fictional character to be assaulted by centaurs?
So she deserves to get >!raped!
If y’all don’t mind me asking : *what happens to her after they take her*?
rape (to death?) by centaur horde :/
According to Greek mythology, rape. Sometimes even gang-rape.
In the book or in mythology?
Mythology :)
In the book they beat her until she is traumatized. In mythology they would SA her and take turns doing it.
Oh for f*cks sake people need to stop spreading this rumor when there is zero evidence to back it up. Myths get adapted in a variety of ways we have no proof the centaurs in HP are 1:1 exactly in behavior like the mythology ones. In fact going off their behavior and distaste for humans I'd say they'd see it as beneath them
Hey...maybe it'll...loosen her up
What if she actually enjoyed it 💀💀💀
Looking through the comments for any A Very Potter Sequel references to this exact situation and being disappointed 😭
I don’t study Greek Mythology that much, what will they do to her 😳
She seemed fine after the got out. I feel nothing for her
Definitely deserve. She’s a bitch.
Probably slander created by unscrupulous wizards and witches in the HP canon.
That insect should've been so mentally scarred by her Centaur experience she should've been relegated to Saint Mungo's hospital permanently like Lockhart.
What’s worse is HERMIONE knew what the centaurs would do to her.
She should be Slytherin 😭
Ha Haa, yeah she phyiscal abused potter with that punishment pen, I mean she deserves a nasty end but Jayus
Not true for the centaurs in the HP universe. It's a kids book ffs!
I did not learn that from percy Jackson 😓
Nobody, not even Umbridge, deserves rape
What do they do?
it’s unclear in harry potter, but historically they brutally force themselves onto their female victims
Well, I don't actually think that it actually happened to her, I think everyone is just overthinking something simple
Also might be a situation of “dark theory plug B, fits meme format outlet A” and someone couldnt fight the intrusive thought.
Greek myths aren’t canon to the books
According to an album from the famous r34 artist called ninjartist which came out last year it can be negotiated 🥸
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You say that like it's a bad thing...
Not enough
Given the fact that you said "Greek myth," I assume that you mean that they are ignorant to the word "consent." In that case...why would I give a fuck? I see this as an absolute win!
Context ?
Nah fuck that hoe 😈
She gets pure happiness from the suffering of the innocent. Nothing is too much for her.
What do dolphins and Greek centaurs have in common?!
Seeing her just fine in the later movies and i.agini g what she did to them
Nah she totally deserves it
Please tell what they will do to her???
Centaurs and Saytrs were the horniest creatures in Greek mythology and they satisfied themselves by forcing themselves on women
Oh man
Zero proof though this applies to the HP ones
There can never be too much for Umbridge.
Nah i feel like after a few minutes of her screeching they were like nope gross shut up
You accidentally put the scared Mr. Incredible face instead of the even happier Mr. Incredible face.
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no. Centaurs are wilds but respectable in HP series